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Police being shady as fuck at the Kill The Bill demo

Started by holyzombiejesus, April 04, 2021, 09:35:08 AM

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holyzombiejesus

This man was seen at the Kill The Bill protests yesterday holding a sign saying Kill Cops.



Then, a bit later, here he is standing with the police.



Meanwhile, a bit further down the road a big pile of rubble is left at the roadside and a police officer kindly helps a protestor to grab a bagfull.

https://twitter.com/Kev371A/status/1378625574499975170

(Also in London, when the concerned parent of a missing vulnerable child contacted the police to report him missing, she's told ""If you can't find your son, how do you expect police officers to find your son for you?" I guess they were too busy murdering women and joining outlawed nazi groups.)

Jumblegraws

Dunno about other CaBbers, but personally I can think of plausible reasons for the picking-up-rubble assistant. As for the sign guy standing with the police, I'm not really seeing what the big deal is in the first place? Why would those particular policeman at that particular time even know who he was or that at some point he stood behind a Kill Cops sign? Or have even noticed him?

Shoulders?-Stomach!

They had the two bits of sign the wrong way around and it was meant to be COP SKILL, which is a nice compliment to the performance of our police service

Buelligan

That brick-throwing thing.  Ever noticed how often the police say they had bricks thrown at them?  Now think about how often you see piles of brick or stones lying about in the street in places like Westminster.  Think about how many bricks an average person can carry and conceal on their bodies.  Think about it. 

Then think about those cops with broken bones and punctured lungs at Bristol.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/police-retract-claims-that-officers-suffered-broken-bones-at-bristol-protest


bomb_dog

Chap I know who's wife is a copper was dumbstruck when I explained the documented use of agent provocateurs in the forces at demos and in the infiltrating of pressure groups, heightening and in a lot of cases, actually leading activities.

touchingcloth

Quote from: Jumblegraws on April 04, 2021, 09:42:34 AM
Dunno about other CaBbers, but personally I can think of plausible reasons for the picking-up-rubble assistant. As for the sign guy standing with the police, I'm not really seeing what the big deal is in the first place? Why would those particular policeman at that particular time even know who he was or that at some point he stood behind a Kill Cops sign? Or have even noticed him?

Because he's Cressida Dick.

Kankurette

Quote from: Buelligan on April 04, 2021, 09:57:39 AM
That brick-throwing thing.  Ever noticed how often the police say they had bricks thrown at them?  Now think about how often you see piles of brick or stones lying about in the street in places like Westminster.  Think about how many bricks an average person can carry and conceal on their bodies.  Think about it. 

Then think about those cops with broken bones and punctured lungs at Bristol.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/25/police-retract-claims-that-officers-suffered-broken-bones-at-bristol-protest
This happened in the US. Bad actors throwing bricks on BLM protests.

greencalx

News report I heard last night quoted a number of injuries (supposedly) sustained by the fuzz, but not by the the protesters. I believe the journalistic term for this is "balance".

Buelligan

Saw this article in the Guardian twelve years ago, an MP, who was present at the G20 protest, asking about agent provocateurs working for the police - asking for someone to look at the evidence, make an investigation.  Didn't find any mention of an investigation though, which surprised the living fuck out of me. 

Whilst I was browsing, also came across this https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/video-police-obstruct-photographer-at-g20-protest/ from the same period.  How times have changed, I thought, police obstructing a photographer?  Now, they beat the shit out of them, as we've seen, in videos.

Fambo Number Mive

QuoteA group of around 30 young people have been imprisoned in the street by the police during the #KillTheBill Protest. Milford Lane WC2. It's freezing cold, we have no food or blankets or toilet facilities. Several people have had to request medics. Please share with the media.

https://twitter.com/MarlonKameka/status/1378425906134458372

QuotePolice apparently arresting legal observers at what remains of the #KillTheBill protest in Aldwych. libertyhq
check it out

https://twitter.com/damiengayle/status/1378413376364285959

Schmo Diddley

The state has been using agent provocateurs against democratic and socialist campaigners since the anti-Jacobin repression of the late 18th century and no doubt earlier.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: Schmo Diddley on April 04, 2021, 02:58:10 PM
The state has been using agent provocateurs against democratic and socialist campaigners since the anti-Jacobin repression of the late 18th century and no doubt earlier.

You'd think someone would have noticed by now

Dr Rock

Wouldn't a sign that says 'KILL COPS' be illegal?

Quote

There's a spy cops inquiry going on right now isn't there? Not that you'd know it from the meagre press coverage it receives.


Buelligan

Psyops maybe?  Or skills wallets, people love those.

TrenterPercenter

Btw have people been keeping up to date with this; the guy is apparently Barrett Brown someone involved in Anonymous, the poster was originally "cops kill" and was switched to "kill cops"; Barrett was keen on the latter but wasn't the creator or instigator he was just asked to help out by some other activists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

So not quite an under cover police officer and probably not an agent provocateur.

Here is his blog where he goes through it all for those interested.

https://barrettbrown.medium.com/andy-ngo-and-the-metropolitan-police-are-being-mean-to-me-again-and-im-sad-bb01d2f357d0

BlodwynPig

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 05, 2021, 07:42:02 PM
Btw have people been keeping up to date with this; the guy is apparently Barrett Brown someone involved in Anonymous, the poster was originally "cops kill" and was switched to "kill cops"; Barrett was keen on the latter but wasn't the creator or instigator he was just asked to help out by some other activists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

So not quite an under cover police officer and probably not an agent provocateur.

Here is his blog where he goes through it all for those interested.

https://barrettbrown.medium.com/andy-ngo-and-the-metropolitan-police-are-being-mean-to-me-again-and-im-sad-bb01d2f357d0

I put it to the court that you sir are Barrett Brown!

TrenterPercenter

Quote from: BlodwynPig on April 05, 2021, 07:53:00 PM
I put it to the court that you sir are Barrett Brown!

I'm afraid once again your snout is faulty my liege.

Jumblegraws

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 05, 2021, 07:42:02 PM
Btw have people been keeping up to date with this; the guy is apparently Barrett Brown someone involved in Anonymous, the poster was originally "cops kill" and was switched to "kill cops"; Barrett was keen on the latter but wasn't the creator or instigator he was just asked to help out by some other activists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_Brown

So not quite an under cover police officer and probably not an agent provocateur.

Here is his blog where he goes through it all for those interested.

https://barrettbrown.medium.com/andy-ngo-and-the-metropolitan-police-are-being-mean-to-me-again-and-im-sad-bb01d2f357d0
Felt stupid for my post upthread where the whole "behind police lines" angle had passed me by, been waiting for someone else in the thread to take the piss. If this guy is telling the truth, I feel a bit better about myself knowing that my interpretation of the scene (man who happens to be standing near police officers) was actually accurate.

TrenterPercenter

Quote from: Jumblegraws on April 05, 2021, 08:08:16 PM
Felt stupid for my post upthread where the whole "behind police lines" angle had passed me by, been waiting for someone else in the thread to take the piss. If this guy is telling the truth, I feel a bit better about myself knowing that my interpretation of the scene (man who happens to be standing near police officers) was actually accurate.

It looks highly likely that this is the case.  He was identified independently prior to him publishing his account and there is nothing that isn't corroborated by his story.  I think you were being sensible.

Of course agent provocateurs do exist but then so do activists that make banners promoting violence.

BlodwynPig

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on April 05, 2021, 08:17:32 PM
It looks highly likely that this is the case.  He was identified independently prior to him publishing his account and there is nothing that isn't corroborated by his story.  I think you were being sensible.

Of course agent provocateurs do exist but then so do activists that make banners promoting violence.