Topic: Windows 10. Nah mate.

[Neomod]

I just bought a second hand desktop which came with windows 10 pro and installed a new hard disk on another laptop with Windows 8.1.

Both have similar sized SSD's and Windows 8 seems much faster despite the processor being half the speed of the Win 10 machine. I even got rid of a load of shite like Cortana on Win 10 thinking that might make a difference but I still get that stupid blue circle now and then even when all I'm doing is browsing the web[1]. Hard disk is healthy so I don't think it's that.

Having had no experience of Windows 10 previously is this par for the course?

Would I be better off getting a copy of Windows 8.1?

And also my Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse is laggy as fuck.

1.	not exactly processor heavy

[Zetetic]

Not really, no.

Did you Reset the desktop choosing "Remove everything" when you got it?

What version of Windows 10?

Is Task Manager showing anything with high CPU usage, even if it's just "System interrupts"?

[Neomod]

Cheers Zetetic, I've just checked and it's got an HDD not an SSD. The disk is at 100% for a bit when it starts up.

Windows is version 20H2.

Therefore I'd like to change the Hard disk for an SSD. I read somewhere that your Windows activation is set in the hardware of the pc now and no key is necessary. Is that true?

Also I installed windows 8.1 from a usb. Is it the same process for windows 10?

[Malcy]

I read somewhere that your Windows activation is set in the hardware of the pc now and no key is necessary. Is that true?

Also I installed windows 8.1 from a usb. Is it the same process for windows 10?

I done it recently using this guide

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reinstalling-win-10-on-new-hard-disk-drive/6130e6a2-59cd-4448-8f86-774cb312e1b9?auth=1

I made the Windows Installer and put it on a USB. Had a couple of issues trying to create it originally seemingly down to using the USB 3.0 input on my laptop so use a normal 2.0. No key required.

[El Unicornio, mang]

I've cloned OS drives a couple of times using Macrium Reflect (free software)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LClr3FPg4_4&ab_channel=Macrium

If you're not arsed about keeping stuff though, always best to just do fresh from a USB as mentioned above. SSD a must these days, don't think I could go back to OS on HDD.

[RenegadeScrew]

What are you going to use the computer for?

Windows 10 is bloated to fuck, and Windows 8 is the worst ever.  Where's my start menu?!

[DrGreggles]

Win 10 is SO MUCH BETTER than 8/8.1

Who's the PC manufacturer?

[Sebastian Cobb]

Is windows 10 markedly different to 8/8.1 or are they just shell changes because nobody liked windows 8? I thought it was the latter really.

[touchingcloth]

Is windows 10 markedly different to 8/8.1 or are they just shell changes because nobody liked windows 8? I thought it was the latter really.

It seems like the latter to me. At work the admins did something to remove that godawful tiled start page in Windows 8, but they upgraded us to Windows 10 without me noticing that anything had changed.

[olliebean]

I think it depends what you're coming from. I kept falling back to XP for many years, because I wasn't keen on the changes in 7 and 8 was a disaster. Going directly from XP to 10 was a much easier transition than from XP to 7 or 8, and I imagine than from 7 or 8 to 10.

[Neomod]

What are you going to use the computer for?

Windows 10 is bloated to fuck, and Windows 8 is the worst ever.  Where's my start menu?!

Mainly visual (photoshop, lightroom, illustrator, video editing) and audio (FL Studio) but I will be buying Eurotruck once I get a graphics card.

Yeah, I went through disabling loads of stuff. This is the first time using both 8.1/10 as I had held out on my laptop with Windows 7. I've made both look as much like 7 as possible an all.

I done it recently using this guide

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/reinstalling-win-10-on-new-hard-disk-drive/6130e6a2-59cd-4448-8f86-774cb312e1b9?auth=1

I made the Windows Installer and put it on a USB. Had a couple of issues trying to create it originally seemingly down to using the USB 3.0 input on my laptop so use a normal 2.0. No key required.

Thanks, I think I will install afresh.

Win 10 is SO MUCH BETTER than 8/8.1

Who's the PC manufacturer?

It's a Dell

[RenegadeScrew]

Mainly visual (photoshop, lightroom, illustrator, video editing) and audio (FL Studio) but I will be buying Eurotruck once I get a graphics card.

Yeah, I went through disabling loads of stuff. This is the first time using both 8.1/10 as I had held out on my laptop with Windows 7. I've made both look as much like 7 as possible an all.

I was going to recommend Linux (new Linux cunt alert) but either way it's maybe worth looking into running a Win7 machine offline for all those arduous tasks.  I have a Windows laptop (running 7) for Ableton that doesn't go online.  Obviously this only works if the apps you need will run on Win7.

I've only recently upgraded my music PC to Win7 from Vista!! I've never ran into problems myself with audio plugins/etc, but I don't know about image/video editing.

[Neomod]

I've only recently upgraded my music PC to Win7 from Vista!! I've never ran into problems myself with audio plugins/etc, but I don't know about image/video editing.

I'll be fixing my windows 7 laptop in due course but the processor is fairly old and so it was about time for something new.

Anyway I'm downloading the windows 10 on to a usb but it hasn't asked for which version of windows 10 I want to reinstall (It's Pro). Will it clarify this later on when Install it?

[RenegadeScrew]

I'll be fixing my windows 7 laptop in due course but the processor is fairly old and so it was about time for something new.

Anyway I'm downloading the windows 10 on to a usb but it hasn't asked for which version of windows 10 I want to reinstall (It's Pro). Will it clarify this later on when Install it?

You'd want Win7 on your best machine if you were using it in the way I meant.

I'm not really sure as I always got Windows in other ways, but see the second answer here - https://superuser.com/questions/1004242/are-the-installation-media-for-windows-10-home-and-professional-different

If you are updating a PC from 8 I think it'll be taking it from the existing OS/bios.

[RenegadeScrew]

If you look up you'll find a few ways you can debloat Win10, although I am not sure it is as successful as the tiny version of Win7 where the iso is <700mb.  For example - https://christitus.com/debloat-windows-10-2020/

You'll probably be able to find a tool with options on Major Geeks or something similar.  BlackViper's scripts if they exist for Win10 might be handy too.

[servese43]

I think there's also windows 10 LTSC/LTSB, which is basically a version of windows 10 for business that basically doesn't do stuff like forcing the installation of cortana and candy crush or locking up your computer for 2 hours in an unsuccessful attempt to update itself. You can't officially buy it as an individual customer, but I believe it is possible to pirate it you want it (bit dodgy but it'll probably be fine as long as you're careful.) I'd probably just use Tiny7 though.