This Time with Alan Partridge series 2

[Glebe]

New trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kulwhXHp1-4

Hi Nathan, Jermaine, Shauna and Trent!

That's more like it!

New page ffs Glebe you twat.

[Harry Badger]

Hi Nathan, Jermaine, Shauna and Trent!

Properly lol'd at that bit.

[pigamus]

Nice to see them working as a team.

[lipsink]

When did Alan start pronouncing words like he does in that clip with "Emerging from the door to my right" and "Zionism"?

It seems like it started properly from North Norfolk Digital onwards.

[Magnum Valentino]

Never mind the time, there's no fucking date on that trailer or in the blurb underneath it.

I'd get sacked for a gaffe like that.

[BeardFaceMan]

When did Alan start pronouncing words like he does in that clip with "Emerging from the door to my right" and "Zionism"?

It seems like it started properly from North Norfolk Digital onwards.

Yeah there were a few new things that started to get incorporated into Alan around that time, mispronouncing words, leaning into the 'wh' sound in words like 'which' or 'what', spoonerisms, language pedant etc, stuff based around pronunciation or language.

[Magnum Valentino]

Also getting stuck on something, excessive word repetition or that sort of broken-machine laugh that he does.

Like the 'don't you ever ever ever ever ever ever' bollocking he gives Simon. There are a few more examples of things like that in MMM and the Gibbons Bros. era than there were before.

[JamesTC]

Is Alan believing that Sherlock Holmes is a real person canon?

[thr0b]

The pronunciation thing seemed to develop from the blurring between Coogan and Partridge; the repeated phrases etc were certainly part of the Coogan character in the "behind the scenes" bits from The Man Who Think's He's It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSo1IdjKM0

I seem to remember another clip where he gives Pegg a very Partridge bollocking.

[frajer]

The pronunciation thing seemed to develop from the blurring between Coogan and Partridge; the repeated phrases etc were certainly part of the Coogan character in the "behind the scenes" bits from The Man Who Think's He's It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSo1IdjKM0

Must admit that's one of my favourite things about the Gibbons era of Partridge, the increasing use of Coogan's natural Northernisms. On MMM he called Simon a "dirty get" and it made me realise you don't hear "get" as an insult anywhere near enough in modern comedy.

[notjosh]

Is Alan believing that Sherlock Holmes is a real person canon?

The most confusing bit of that is that the author he's interviewing doesn't seem to know that Dr Watson recorded the cases, not Sherlock Homes, so his "how would he be able to describe the details of his own death?" retort makes no sense. Had the writers even read The Final Problem?

[neveragain]

I don't think the writers had read any Sherlock Holmes!

[Captain Z]

Must admit that's one of my favourite things about the Gibbons era of Partridge, the increasing use of Coogan's natural Northernisms. On MMM he called Simon a "dirty get" and it made me realise you don't hear "get" as an insult anywhere near enough in modern comedy.

Chris Moyles used to say exactly the same thing to 'Comedy Dave' back on their Radio 1 show. I took it as Alan trying to mimic/force the same dynamic with Sidekick Simon.

[PeasOnSticks]

The pronunciation thing seemed to develop from the blurring between Coogan and Partridge; the repeated phrases etc were certainly part of the Coogan character in the "behind the scenes" bits from The Man Who Think's He's It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSo1IdjKM0

I seem to remember another clip where he gives Pegg a very Partridge bollocking.

Coogan is very 'new Partridge' indeed in that clip.

[lipsink]

The pronunciation thing seemed to develop from the blurring between Coogan and Partridge; the repeated phrases etc were certainly part of the Coogan character in the "behind the scenes" bits from The Man Who Think's He's It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lSo1IdjKM0

I seem to remember another clip where he gives Pegg a very Partridge bollocking.

The way he pronounces "wheelchairs" when he's bed with Jill in IAP seems like an early example. I know he's pronouncing it like that cos he's most likely getting a hand job but still.

[frajer]

Chris Moyles used to say exactly the same thing to 'Comedy Dave' back on their Radio 1 show. I took it as Alan trying to mimic/force the same dynamic with Sidekick Simon.

Ha I didn't know that, I'm sure that must be in the mix. I like the disdain with which Alan/Coogan delivers it.

[kalowski]

Also getting stuck on something, excessive word repetition or that sort of broken-machine laugh that he does.

Like the 'don't you ever ever ever ever ever ever' bollocking he gives Simon. There are a few more examples of things like that in MMM and the Gibbons Bros. era than there were before.

"Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot, hot ham."

[lipsink]

I love the way in IAP Series 2 he says: "You make me sound mad, Lynne!" as if he's recovering from a stroke. I'm sure they used that way of speaking a few times when he got angry.

[Magnum Valentino]

I love the way in IAP Series 2 he says: "You make me sound mad, Lynne!" as if he's recovering from a stroke. I'm sure they used that way of speaking a few times when he got angry.

I may have said this here before but my biggest barrier to getting into Partridge originally was that he looked like a lad at my school that had had a stroke and I thought the performance and mannerisms in series 2 were in bad taste

As if he had met the cub!

[Malcy]

Coogan, Fielding & the Gibbons in conversation with the BFI next Wednesday at 7pm on the BFI YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9dGqMAPJRpA7M0oSdgtQgg

[Thomas]

Can't find it on Youtube but there's a clip of someone turning up to a Nomad signing with a Jed Maxwell-type Alan chest drawing - I think he responds tongue-in-cheek with "get this man escorted from the premises" but it must be quite gruelling to have to deal with all those people quoting the same old bits, giving him Toblerones or damaged chocolate oranges or whatever.

First thing to pop up as a suggestion on YouTube this evening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMWbJTfDYyo

To be fair, Coogz does an excellent job of mimicking the scrawled expression.

[neveragain]

Coogan, Fielding & the Gibbons in conversation with the BFI next Wednesday at 7pm on the BFI YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9dGqMAPJRpA7M0oSdgtQgg

My first thought: "God, not more Noel Fielding..."

[petril]

looking forward to the synth kittens returning for the theme tune

[pancreas]

New trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kulwhXHp1-4

Hi Nathan, Jermaine, Shauna and Trent!

That was PERFECT

[mobias]

I forgot that I had a few episodes of This Time recorded so watched a couple of them last night. Its a bit better than I remembered it being. Its maybe partly due to me watching a lot of AP in recent months so being very in the zone for him. There is way too much of Alan being Alan saying Alan things though, and not enough of those things being as well written as it was in the past. I'm AP was great because there were other characters being really funny, especially Michael. Michael is the great unsung hero of the AP canon I think. He's a far better stooge for Alan than Sidekick Simon.

[holyzombiejesus]

Coogan, Fielding & the Gibbons in conversation with the BFI next Wednesday at 7pm on the BFI YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9dGqMAPJRpA7M0oSdgtQgg

This is up to rewatch now. Not bothered yet myself but looks good.

[Malcy]

This is up to rewatch now. Not bothered yet myself but looks good.

I totally forgot about it. Nice one, didn't know if it would be available after or not.

[purlieu]

The closest is probably this moment in Clive Anderson's interview, when Alan expresses bemusement at the idea of a spoof chatshow.

_{The Clive Anderson interview is canon until they get round to promoting IAP at the end.}

Recently watched the interview, and in it actually still works with canon as long as you accept that - controversially - IAP is a docusoap about Alan. It's promoted as such in the interview, and acknowledged by Alan, which makes it canon. It still makes no sense, especially given how sitcommy the second series is, but it seems clear that this is how the first series was intended to be seen.
It's weird how wrong they got it, though. Throwing in a narrator would have made it clear, and removing the audience would have made it obvious, but instead the whole thing is played as a studio sitcom, and yet the setup was quite clearly intended for it to be a documentary of sorts.

As a complete aside, I've recently been rewatching the whole Partridge canon in time for the new series, and I've sent the odd clip to my partner (I've been watching it while on my exercise bike and filming my favourite bits to send to her upstairs, which is borderline Alan in itself) and she's finally 'got' his character, 15 years after first being shown him, so I'm now enjoying the experience of watching the whole thing with someone who's never seen it before. Being able to sit and enjoy the laughter of someone's first experience of a great comedy is genuinely joyous.

[gotmilk]

Recently watched the interview, and in it actually still works with canon as long as you accept that - controversially - IAP is a docusoap about Alan. It's promoted as such in the interview, and acknowledged by Alan, which makes it canon. It still makes no sense, especially given how sitcommy the second series is, but it seems clear that this is how the first series was intended to be seen.
It's weird how wrong they got it, though. Throwing in a narrator would have made it clear, and removing the audience would have made it obvious, but instead the whole thing is played as a studio sitcom, and yet the setup was quite clearly intended for it to be a documentary of sorts.

IAP is not really intended as a docusoap, nor a "reconstruction" of Alan's life (as stated throughout the in-character DVD commentaries by Coogan and Montagu). Both explanations are just cute way of allowing Steve to make promotional appearances as Alan, similar to this teaser for Alpha Papa years later: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDCVtEilrGU. I don't think there's anything about the setup which indicates IAP is "clearly intended" to be a documentary - it makes way more sense just to assume any interviews referencing it as such aren't strictly canon.

[Excellent_Biscuits]

I would hate to watch comedy with ANY of you.