Author Topic: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.  (Read 2215 times)

SpiderChrist

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2021, 11:30:14 AM »
If you're talking about the link I just put up, that *IS* the original sample, they got the rights to it a few years ago.

Compare - this spot is the most noticeable difference:
Love Sensation: https://youtu.be/j38yypPLWzE?t=108
Ride On Time '79 remix: https://youtu.be/GKQm3sWSIsw?t=150
Ride On Time Heather Small version: https://youtu.be/M0quXl_od3g?t=116

Ah. Apologies.

It also might be the way the vocals are edited: WALK right in, WALK WALK WALK right in - always gets on my tits, that. Mind you, I was working in a record shop when Ride On Time came out and so was exposed to it multiple times every day for what felt like an eternity.

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2021, 11:38:24 AM »
I think it's really interesting how the whole gimmick was the way the vocals were edited that way to create that strange inhuman effect that isn't really at all like real singing - that's the hook - but that they still had Katrin Quinol in the music video and TV performances miming along. Like audiences still needed to imagine that WALK-WALK-WALK thing was coming from a live, unedited vocalist. Or marketing people imagined audiences needed that. Dunno.

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2021, 12:22:00 PM »
Aye, I was talking about the new cover version in the OP, which has original vocals.

Gotcha. It's hard to follow which one everyone's talking about here.

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Am I right in thinking the version of Ride on Time on Spotify has the original sample?

Sounds like it now. For years the only version offically available was the Heather version, but it seems like since the got the rights to Loleatta's vocals they've quietly switched it for the original again.

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2021, 12:30:10 PM »
I think it's really interesting how the whole gimmick was the way the vocals were edited that way to create that strange inhuman effect that isn't really at all like real singing - that's the hook - but that they still had Katrin Quinol in the music video and TV performances miming along. Like audiences still needed to imagine that WALK-WALK-WALK thing was coming from a live, unedited vocalist. Or marketing people imagined audiences needed that. Dunno.

They just needed someone to front it for tv/videos. I doubt most people would really have paid that much attention.

It's a bit like watching specail effects in old movies now and thinking how fake and unbelievale they look, when at the time they were impressive. We've had decades of getting used to sampling and processed vocals that most people can spot that something's been done even if they don't know what. But back then the idea that some djs took an acapella recording from an older song, cut it up and layered over a new track, then got someone else to mime to it was not something most people would ever think of.

Also, lots of people wouldn't care, they just liked the song.

PlanktonSideburns

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2021, 12:33:59 PM »
Made me think of this Kylie version of Locomotion from 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja0pBuK7CW4

Kyle's original is a iconic piece of cheese, sure, but this Winehouse/Ronson ripoff offends me way more. Making me get that upset about a bit of pop fluff.

Best locomotion version

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SEDPgmOeLZA

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2021, 12:49:08 PM »
I heard about 12 seconds of a Foo Fighters BeeGees cover. It was even worse than I was expecting.

Shameless Custard

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2021, 01:01:01 PM »
The Fall's cover of Lost In Music seems to divide people. Maybe it helps that I'm not a huge Fall fan, but I really like it

Their version of Victoria feels a bit more pointless, mind

The Stranglers' go at All Day and All Of The Night feels a bit pointless, too

I tend to prefer covers that are either radically different from the original version, have a completely different style of voice singing it, or change the tempo. Just anything that makes it a bit different, and give it a reason for existing. Identical cover versions are lazy and a bit pointless

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2021, 01:29:34 PM »
On the topic of covers of Ride On Time, my favourite is this one by Xper.Xr, a Hong Kong musician/artist who did a whole album of chart pop songs using traditional Chinese instruments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN2zPynitOw

The Mollusk

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2021, 02:01:37 PM »
The Stranglers' go at All Day and All Of The Night feels a bit pointless, too

Their cover of “Walk On By” though, fffffuckin scorcher

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2021, 02:11:57 PM »
Yep, true!

Neomod

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2021, 09:45:01 PM »
I know this is a bit "Thank you, we're Sausalito' but I still love it's country twang.

Mademoiselle Fizz (yikes) Being Boring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPCXc8YH-Ew

Sebastian Cobb

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Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2021, 09:52:37 PM »
I think it's really interesting how the whole gimmick was the way the vocals were edited that way to create that strange inhuman effect that isn't really at all like real singing - that's the hook - but that they still had Katrin Quinol in the music video and TV performances miming along. Like audiences still needed to imagine that WALK-WALK-WALK thing was coming from a live, unedited vocalist. Or marketing people imagined audiences needed that. Dunno.

I always thought it was intentionally choppy because samplers were still a relatively new toy.

Bit like how when stereo was new everyone got carried away and panned everything to fuck (or in film where colour grading first came out everything looked teal and orange).

I actually quite like it.

Re: Cover versions you can't work out are good or hackneyed.
« Reply #42 on: July 19, 2021, 12:02:57 AM »
I always thought it was intentionally choppy because samplers were still a relatively new toy.

Definitely! So it's silly to have a real person mime to it.

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