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bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« on: June 03, 2021, 03:08:12 PM »
This is probably a bad idea for a thread but are there specific jokes from the "classic" Simpsons era - to avoid arguments, let's call this seasons 1 thru 10 - that are just total misfires for you, actively bad, shit jokes or concepts?

Personally I've never been fond of the whole Roy thing from the Poochie episode, but I don't love that episode in general. Too smug. "If anything, you owe them!" Yeah, eat shit

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2021, 03:12:49 PM »
"I think he's talking to you" in the "Hello, Mr Thompson" sequence doesn't make any sense. There's no character called Mr Thompson in the Simpsons so its not believable Homer would think that was the name of the guy sitting next to him. He's also been interrogated for several hours so everyone will have been introduced.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2021, 03:48:58 PM »
When Lisa sees an advertisement showing the Cane from Citizen Kane, and then saying "Hey, there is no cane in Citizen Kane", with the audience meant to chuckle and nod along in the realisation of the gag.
However; there are indeed many canes in Citizen Kane; particularly during the dance number (yes there is also a song and dance number in Citizen Kane).

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2021, 03:54:13 PM »
Which The Simpsons had previously parodied to boot

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2021, 04:24:25 PM »
From Season 5:



The forgetting how to drive joke is fine, but I always disliked how Marge has to explain it. Even as a kid I felt like it was insulting my intelligence

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2021, 04:31:36 PM »
And Homer drinks beer, not wine.

Trolling aside, I don't agree - "and how!" is brilliant because it means it wasn't Homer dumbass late Simpsons forgets-how-to-breath Homer, just that he was caught in a stupid excuse. As has been said ad nauseum in the DVD commentary, his impulsiveness and enthusiasm were always funnier than his stupidity.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2021, 04:32:03 PM »
Loads of 8 is patchy and 10 is all pretty bad.

I'm sure there are a few 2-7 jokes I don't like though. If i can think what they are is another matter

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2021, 04:34:49 PM »
What is the joke that Groening hated and pointed to as the beginning of jerk-ass Homer? "The bee bit my bottom, now my bottom's big",  I think?

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2021, 04:35:25 PM »
From Season 5:



The forgetting how to drive joke is fine, but I always disliked how Marge has to explain it. Even as a kid I felt like it was insulting my intelligence
how else do you punctuate the joke? Just have her ignore it with an "mmmm"? The "and how" is funny because it shows he was just taking the piss and fondly remembering the time he got drunk on homemade wine.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2021, 04:36:28 PM »
What is the joke that Groening hated and pointed to as the beginning of jerk-ass Homer? "The bee bit my bottom, now my bottom's big",  I think?

Really? That's in 'Homer Goes To College', one of the top three episodes of all time!

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2021, 04:39:47 PM »
I might be misremembering it with Conan being grumpy about something.

There is an awkward part in one of the commentaries where everyone is laughing over a much loved joke and Groening gets irritated for a second and says something about remembering the writers suggesting it and thinking "what's next guys, Homer forgets how to breathe?" And talks about how Homer being stupid isn't funny. He's right of course but he let the show run after season nine for the moneys anyway.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2021, 04:40:45 PM »
I thought of that the other day when "baby did a boom boom" was posted. That i find obnoxiously unfunny.

But for some reason "a bee bit my bottom" is so absurd i just find it completely hilarious.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2021, 04:41:46 PM »
For the record "a bee bit my bottom, now my bottoms big" is not funny[1] because bees don't bite they sting.



 1. okay its really funny

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2021, 04:59:53 PM »
Homer turning into one-dimensional idiot = beginning of Zombie Simpsons.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2021, 05:02:50 PM »
For the record "a bee bit my bottom, now my bottoms big" is not funny[1] because bees don't bite they sting.
 1. okay its really funny

To be fair it’s not the only time Homer has been confused about the bee’s natural defence mechanism.


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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2021, 05:07:21 PM »
all these are very good jokes with the exception of the cane from citizen cane which is season 11 and in deep shite simpsons territory

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2021, 05:22:03 PM »
When Lisa sees an advertisement showing the Cane from Citizen Kane, and then saying "Hey, there is no cane in Citizen Kane", with the audience meant to chuckle and nod along in the realisation of the gag.
However; there are indeed many canes in Citizen Kane; particularly during the dance number (yes there is also a song and dance number in Citizen Kane).

Worth it for the entire subgenre of shitposts it has created a quarter of a century later.









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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2021, 05:23:57 PM »
Krusty's 'me so solly' gag seemed a bit rum despite the joke being that it was rum and everyone was horrified, Krusty might've had a bit of the old prejudice being Jewish and the son of a Rabbi.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2021, 05:28:57 PM »
Always hated how Homer was when Bart is in the Junior Scouts he should be proud.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2021, 05:34:49 PM »
Not a joke but I always hated the ending where Homer's half-brother disowns him for designing a stupid car. Herb is the one who makes a point of not checking on the design before it's made (because plot). And then he just decides it's shit without even marketing it (because ending). Who's to say America isn't full of Homers who would pay 82 grand for that shit. And surely they didn't produce any more than just the one?

Plot led by plot, not characters.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2021, 05:37:58 PM »
When Herb comes back that is a funny episode yet, Danny De Vito is reduced to an answering phone cameo in his next appearance.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2021, 05:42:25 PM »

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2021, 06:42:53 PM »
Herb is too much of a believably good person for the Simpsons. It works for exactly one episode, the comeback is funny but already the character is kind of broken.

Simpsons is great at showing the good sides of people with otherwise negative traits but having a character whose thing is that he was a cold blooded CEO who did a 180 when he realised he had nieces and nephews he never met kind of fucks with everything about the series.

They already have Flanders who disrupts the morality of the show by having a guy who's sweet and kind yet somehow that's horrible thing to be and he needs to be mocked and punished for it. Having Herb too would be too much. Devito plays him perfectly: I believe this guy is nice and smart, I want to spend time with him and it sucks when he doesn't get to watch cartoons with Bart and Lisa. I imagine he was a Warren supporter who came around on Sanders eventually.

On the subject of Flanders, I fucking hate when they made Flanders openly bigotted. There's one early 00s episode where there's a punchline that involves him raising money for gay conversion charities. Implying that he has horrible beliefs because he's a man of the book is fine so long as you never reveal them. Especially when his wife is the literal shorthand image for misdirected moral outrage. Now there's the implication that its possible to be a truly good person and believe all sorts of dire crap and Maude became a complete misogyny punching bag before they blasted her to death with shirts or whatever it was.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2021, 07:19:28 PM »
Homer leaving Marge in the car was a dick move and it would be something Homer would never do.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2021, 07:33:21 PM »
All the times they joke about Homer drink driving are pretty bad. Was it an American thing to be blasé about that? Even in the 90s, I can't imagine a UK show laughing about drink driving in such a way.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2021, 07:33:37 PM »
Which season was the musical episode in? Because that was absolute gash.

Not sure about jokes, but I always hated the episode where Bart runs away from home after the Thanksgiving dinner goes horribly wrong. It wasn't funny at all, just depressing.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2021, 07:37:50 PM »
All the times they joke about Homer drink driving are pretty bad. Was it an American thing to be blasé about that? Even in the 90s, I can't imagine a UK show laughing about drink driving in such a way.

Ahh come on. The joke in Mr Plow is one of the best in show's history:

Adjuster: Now, before I give you the cheque, one more question. Uh, this place Moe's you left just before the accident, this is a business of some kind?
Homer's Brain: Don't tell him you were at a bar. (gasps) But what else is open at night?
Homer: It's a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Homer's Brain: Heh heh heh. I woulda never thought of that.

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Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2021, 07:38:53 PM »
I didn't used to like the tail-end of the initial "Bort licence plate" bit in S6 ep4. The dialogue between the mother and the man who is also called Bort is very contrived. but I guess that's the point. you're doing a meta bit on a joke that's already funny. and could I come up with anything better in the writer's room? probably not.

and then there's the call-back towards the end which is just killer.

so yeah this is hard isnt it

the thing is the golden-age eps had the scripts gone over SO much by so many witty people, barely anything not funny could creep through

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2021, 07:49:25 PM »
Especially when his wife is the literal shorthand image for misdirected moral outrage.
I thought that was Helen 'won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?!' Lovejoy.

Re: bad jokes in the classic Simpsons era
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2021, 07:50:48 PM »
I thought that was Helen 'won't somebody think of the CHILDREN?!' Lovejoy.

Shit yeah, my bad. Maude is the gossip.

Making Flanders overtly right wing is one of the many serious fuck ups that lead to zombie Simpsons.

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