Author Topic: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes  (Read 650 times)

Rich Uncle Skeleton

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Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:57:46 AM »
and fresh polemic from Roger Waters, naturally!

https://rogerwaters.com/animals-new-mix-update/

My favourite floyd album so I'll be interested to hear the new stereo mix at least. Wasn't expecting a full on "Immersion " box for Animals but without any extras beyond the original mix I'll be happy just streaming it.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2021, 11:19:22 AM »
I love Animals too. It is a great counter for people who just think 70s Floyd were just mellow noodling hippies. It is one of the angriest albums out there. The Gimour/Waters beef is also very entertaining

shagatha crustie

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2021, 01:45:49 PM »
God I can't stand to read about these old men with lots of money and nothing better to do still bickering over this shit. It's like bloody Curb.

SpiderChrist

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2021, 02:06:02 PM »
God I can't stand to read about these old men with lots of money and nothing better to do still bickering over this shit. It's like bloody Curb.

Dull, isn't it? Unlike Animals, which is my favourite Floyd album.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2021, 02:10:25 PM »
I find it quite amusing as they both seem quite unlikeable and so there is no reason to care who "wins". All that suggests that Waters is in the right but he is such a fucking plum about it that there is every chance he is re-writing history himself

SpiderChrist

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2021, 02:41:47 PM »
We never had this trouble with The Dooleys.

daf

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2021, 02:49:38 PM »
Best punk album of 1977
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Captain Z

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2021, 03:01:29 PM »
He actually used both the crying-laughing and rolling-crying-laughing emojis in his text, so I am immediately back on Dave's side.

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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2021, 03:18:35 PM »
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next door to the North Pole Pub where I used to play darts!

Man of the people, friend to the stars.

Fair play from reading that I didn't realise that my journey to and from work took me so close to the two places of interest mentioned in those sleeve notes. I'll be going for a piss on the site of Britannia Studios at 4:30 this afternoon.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2021, 03:54:55 PM »
Hopefully gives an official release to the 8 track version of Pigs on the Wing linked together with a Snowy White solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMBI9aApoik

Credit wise its the same for a lot of Floyd stuff isn't it? does coming up with the "song" entitle you to sole credit when much of the track is made up of other elements? something like Sheep for example the keyboard solo at the start or the guitar solo at the end is a big part of the track not to mention the arrangement of the rest of it.

H-O-W-L

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2021, 04:25:20 PM »
I don't really care who wins but David is actively obstructing this shit over some notes about some bollocks that happened close to fifty years ago now so I'm immediately against his agenda. I'm a long-term Waters fan but frankly speaking all I care about is the new mixes at this point, he should have the bollocks (and he has more than enough cash) to just let it go.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2021, 04:52:33 PM »
Those note are badly written 'needless to say I had the last laugh' bollocks that shouldn't be anywhere near a Pink Floyd album, or any album to be honest.

Also, where are the marbles? I want marbles!

markburgle

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2021, 04:58:58 PM »
Also they're boring. Just a super perfunctory recapping of basic Floyd history that any fan already knows, hardly worth arguing over one way or another.

Roger is a silly sausage for digging out Gilmour interviews from the 80's so he can spend his memoir contradicting them. Can you not just be happy you achieved something? So what if someone else remembers differently or claims extra credit? I arks you

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2021, 05:03:30 PM »
Maybe he (Gilmour) was talking about the time in re-recorded Money for the Great Collection of Dance Songs comp?

If I was him (Gilmour) I would have said he was too busy recording Roger's bass lines for him at the time.

daf

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2021, 05:07:29 PM »
Also, where are the marbles? I want marbles!

None left - unfortunately, Syd lost them a long time ago.

BlodwynPig

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2021, 05:38:09 PM »
Anyone remember the spoof Floyd fanzine from the early 90s/late 80s that claimed Syd Barrett was making an album about lobsters? (Not The Amazing Pudding).

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2021, 05:44:28 PM »
Couldn't help reading that update in the style and intonation of the I Partridge audiobook.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2021, 05:54:23 PM »
be amazing if these got into a proper full on fight with peoples faces fucked in and stuff, in the street, photographers there and everything, all of them cryinh and kicking stuff

shagatha crustie

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2021, 05:57:19 PM »
Diss each other on sight

Sebastian Cobb

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2021, 06:16:17 PM »
From a skim of the blurb I assume the stereo mix is just a 2.0 remix.

Fair enough doing a mix into 5.1 but it's entirely possible to complement that with a 2-channel stereo mix that is surround-sound in headphones for povvos like me.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2021, 09:42:36 PM »
My feeling on this is that I'm siding with Gilmour. Yes it's an entitled row about something that's rather small in the grand state of things, but I could understand him feeling uneasy about a set of liner notes that, skimming through it, doesn't tell you anything new that you couldn't learn from Wikipedia or Nick Mason's autobiography, for instance. There's no personal recollections, and Waters does get most of the credit. Although Waters did write most of the album, I could understand Gilmour's disdain at people like his late friend Rick Wright only getting a passing mention.

Mind you, Gilmour isn't the one publicly and explicitly slagging people off via rants with laughing emojis and capital letters. He isn't the one pedantically going over every word the other says, or moaning that he's been banned from the Facebook group. In the quote Waters supplies that goes on about the start of 'Money', Gilmour never states that he was the one who edited the opening together. He refers to the band as a collective 'we', whereas Waters explicitly states he was in charge.

But who knows. Maybe it's just a PR stunt for the new mixes? Would be appropriate, given the album. Besides, surely after everything they're bigger and better than this.

Sebastian Cobb

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2021, 09:47:58 PM »
To be honest unless the original mix/pressing of something was bollocks when has a remastered actually changed an album in a meaningful way?

In my experience remasters usually either mean not much difference or brickwalling it. With the exception of ZZ top where they completely fucked up their first few albums by adding loads of reverb and replacing the drummer with a machine.

Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2021, 12:38:52 AM »
Aside from the handbag swinging by jaded millionaires, Animals is a great album by talented people who cared at the time. A surprisingly harsh, almost punkish prog record, released when that shouldn't have been possible. Petty bickering that came later can't change that.

Echo Valley 2-6809

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Re: Pink Floyd - Animals new stereo/5.1 mixes
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2021, 12:50:26 AM »
My allegiance tends to waver pointlessly between Gilmour and Waters. Waters is perpetually bitter at being excluded from Pink Floyd's official site, where the work of Gilmour's wife is celebrated but there's zero mention of Waters' albums, which just seems wrong; but it was Waters who quit the band in the first place and started a slew of lawsuits. Then again Waters seems to be the one who musicians and road crew say is the the most pleasant to work with. I should just align myself with Mason.

Nothing new but this video of Mason and Waters answering fan queries is quite nice, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DawCpKEJFUM .  Mason a couple of times drily expressing his exasperation at the Waters-Gilmour schism.

Anyway, I'll wait for reviews on the mix before I consider buying. It really needs extras but PF were never big on recording their live shows for posterity, or doing much more in the studio than they needed to.

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