"At Christmas I no more desire a rose Than wish a snow in May's new-fangled mirth; But like of each thing that in season grows."
Started by bgmnts, June 10, 2021, 08:03:28 PM
Quote from: Ron Maels Moustache on June 13, 2021, 07:36:33 PMHad the misfortune of hearing James Brown on Radio 4 earlier spouting a load of bollocks about how GRATE Britain in 1996 was because we had Oasis and Britpop and Three Lions etc.
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 11, 2021, 04:28:47 PMI don't really buy that Oasis were more of a culturally conservative proposition than other bands who were desperately trying to make crossover guitar pop a thing before them. "Noel Rock" definitely was, but that's a different issue. Stereolab ended up recording some subtly anti-marxist libertarian songsLuke Haines might have been a lefty early on but he transformed into a full reactionary over a decade.There is very dodgy stuff on the Denim record ("fake make up boys", "we hate the IRA", "i hate funk and I hate soul") Gedge might be a nice man with good opinions but his thing was bringing the sexual/gender ambiguity of stuff like the Smiths or lofi back into traditional boy meets girl story songs. Despite the aesthetic, MSP were/are bothsideism: the band. Radiohead dedicated a record to Bill Hicks. New Order were called New Order.Loads of throwback bands like the La's were uncomfortably nationalistic in their ideas of what good music should be about.Blur were rich boys sneering at paups. One them sells McDonalds in the Sun now. Suede immediately dove into 70s revivalism and all its unpleasantness.I could go on.The same guy who posted the Oasis rant has a similar one about the Stone Roses. How many other hit albums have a song about May 1968 on them? Oasis' "is it worth the aggreviation/to find yourself a job when nothing is work working for?" still stands apart as a cutting statement of disaffection even if neither of them really meant (or just lucked into such a good line)
Quote from: druss on June 14, 2021, 08:22:22 AMNever knew he was a Britpop fan, or that he had risen from the grave.
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on June 11, 2021, 01:17:03 PMIs that a man with legs made of sausages? That's not real.
Quote from: Ron Maels Moustache on June 13, 2021, 07:36:33 PMHad the misfortune of hearing James Brown on Radio 4 earlier spouting a load of bollocks about how GRATE Britain in 1996 was because we had Oasis and Britpop and Three Lions etc. It was like the inverse of the Kulkarni piece if it was written by a complete moron.Imagine if, like Brown, you were largely responsible for some of the wankiest aspects of lad culture and weren't the least bit embarrassed about it, how lacking in self-awareness would you have to be to not constantly want to punch yourself in the face?
Quote from: idunnosomename on June 18, 2021, 10:57:24 AMJames Brown is dead.
Quote from: Gulftastic on June 18, 2021, 12:07:49 PMI know someone who was at school with Brown during the 80's (Lawnswood High in Leeds) and told me that Brown could have give two shits about football back then. He jumped on the 'lad' bandwagon and rode it to fame and riches.
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