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Fast & Furious 9: Edinburgh Boogaloo

Started by Blue Jam, June 12, 2021, 09:09:07 PM

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Blue Jam

Can't fucking wait:

https://youtu.be/_qyw6LC5pnE

Also: the excellent Dominion Cinema, which was under threat of closure during lockdown, reopens on the 23rd, and this is out on the 24th. It's a date!

El Unicornio, mang

I've somehow never seen any of these films. Are they genuinely good or good in a so-bad-it's-good way? Might treat myself to them all next week.

madhair60

Quote from: El Unicornio, mang on June 12, 2021, 09:46:45 PM
I've somehow never seen any of these films. Are they genuinely good or good in a so-bad-it's-good way? Might treat myself to them all next week.

They don't really fit "so bad they're good", they're just ridiculously earnest stupidity. They don't really have any tongue-in-cheek tone to them except the newest one, Hobbs and Shaw, which is rubbish

The best one is Fast 6 which is exhilarating fun but all of them are just so fucking DUMB

I basically enjoyed all of them but was less keen on 5, 7 and Hobbs&Shaw

Blumf

They're dumb, but they're honest. "Hey kids, you like fast cars, hot kick-ass chicks, and action? Course you do, we got ya covered!"

Even funnier when you contrast the original, where Vin Diesel's character is just competent criminal, knocking off some trucks loaded with consumer electronics, with the current ones, where he's an unstoppable world class bad-ass. It's like if the James Bond films started off with him being a parking warden.

I think 6 is where they get everything balanced out nicely, good selection of cars and good action with some fun set pieces[nb]Wiki: "Shaw's group board a moving Antonov An-124 on an exceptionally long runway"[/nb], not so much 'family' baggage. But you need to watch the rest to understand the cerebral plot lines and complex interplay of themes.

Blue Jam

I enjoy them but tbh I just want to see Vin Diesel hanging off the back of a bus with VISIT EDINBURGH on it. It'll be like watching The Illusionist (2010) at the Cameo, but dumb.

I have just remembered that I was in the vicinity when they were filming the car chase on the Royal Mile and saw all the trailers in the car park by the Palace of Holyrood House and got a chekky photo of THE ROCK'S DOG. Prepare to be impressed:




Blue Jam

I hope Vin Diesel kicks Greyfriars Bobby's fuckin heid off

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: madhair60 on June 12, 2021, 10:32:50 PM
They don't really fit "so bad they're good", they're just ridiculously earnest stupidity. They don't really have any tongue-in-cheek tone to them except the newest one, Hobbs and Shaw, which is rubbish

The best one is Fast 6 which is exhilarating fun but all of them are just so fucking DUMB

I basically enjoyed all of them but was less keen on 5, 7 and Hobbs&Shaw
Fast Five is best, with the totally ridiculous safe heist (apparently done with largely practical effects not CG) and The Rock at his peak trying to take them down. 6, 7 and Hobbs and Shaw are all entertaining in parts, although by 8 it's really getting fucking stupid.

Problem is that while they have great stunts and some good action-movie performances, about 75% of each film is a mix of "getting the gang back together" scenes (which normally include a couple of people who died in previous films), long conversations about "family", and shit about cars. Also, Dwayne Johnson is much better at this kind of thing than Vin Diesel which is why they eventually got rid of Dwayne/The Rock.

I'm definitely looking forward to watching the Edinburgh scenes on a big screen, although I'm only expecting about 2 minutes of cityscapes.

touchingcloth

Quote from: madhair60 on June 12, 2021, 10:32:50 PM
They don't really fit "so bad they're good", they're just ridiculously earnest stupidity. They don't really have any tongue-in-cheek tone to them except the newest one, Hobbs and Shaw, which is rubbish

The best one is Fast 6 which is exhilarating fun but all of them are just so fucking DUMB

I basically enjoyed all of them but was less keen on 5, 7 and Hobbs&Shaw

"Hobbs & Shaw" is an astonishing subtitle for a F&F film. It's like if there was a Bad Boys 4: Bartleby & Bede.

Sebastian Cobb

When I rewatched one of the early ones because I was hungover and didn't actually want to do anything I was amazed at how dated and matrixey some of the scenes were. That club with the moody Russians, lol.

The Culture Bunker

I watched the first one yonks ago and as I didn't get even any cheap laughs from it, I've never bothered with the rest. I think part of it is that the cars are so unattractive to me - if they were zipping around in 80s Audi Quattros, Porsche 911s and whatnot, I might have gotten something out of it, but these modern boy racer mobiles just look ugly to my eyes.

Blue Jam

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on June 15, 2021, 12:05:11 PM
Also, Dwayne Johnson is much better at this kind of thing than Vin Diesel which is why they eventually got rid of Dwayne/The Rock.

Wait, so that's not The Rock's dog? Damn, that's made me feel all deflated now.


madhair60

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on June 15, 2021, 12:05:11 PM
Fast Five is best, with the totally ridiculous safe heist (apparently done with largely practical effects not CG) and The Rock at his peak trying to take them down.

For some reason it didn't land with me. The runway scene in 6 is the best scene of the whole series as far as I'm concerned, absolute insanity

Blumf

Quote from: The Culture Bunker on June 15, 2021, 12:38:29 PM
I watched the first one yonks ago and as I didn't get even any cheap laughs from it, I've never bothered with the rest. I think part of it is that the cars are so unattractive to me - if they were zipping around in 80s Audi Quattros, Porsche 911s and whatnot, I might have gotten something out of it, but these modern boy racer mobiles just look ugly to my eyes.

FF6 has a Jensen Interceptor and a Ford Escort RS2000, and best of all, a Citroën Xsara.

https://www.imcdb.org/m1905041.html

Rizla

Quote from: The Culture Bunker on June 15, 2021, 12:38:29 PM
I watched the first one yonks ago and as I didn't get even any cheap laughs from it, I've never bothered with the rest. I think part of it is that the cars are so unattractive to me - if they were zipping around in 80s Audi Quattros, Porsche 911s and whatnot, I might have gotten something out of it, but these modern boy racer mobiles just look ugly to my eyes.
agree. also, car chase, in edinburgh? been done mate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M_fh3SV_qA
"They're here, they're right here in the town!"

Dex Sawash


Blue Jam

Is there gonna be some Forza Horizon 4 DLC? Would genuinely fucking love that.

Quote from: Rizla on June 16, 2021, 12:46:27 AM
agree. also, car chase, in edinburgh? been done mate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_M_fh3SV_qA
"They're here, they're right here in the town!"

Does the polis chase in Trainspotting count? Renton does have an encounter with a driver round the back of The Black Bull.

Can't shoplift from that HMV no more, not now it's a Sports Direct.

Blue Jam

Shortly after posting this I saw "F9" (as all the cool kids are calling it) advertised on the side of a bus. Bugger. Still gonna break the golden rule and regret it aren't I?

Interesting that it's reached nine installments and they're still absolutely massive blockbusters, rather than low-rent straight-to-video shit. Wouldn't have happened in seventies, eighties or nineties, unless you name was James Bond. Maybe that's more a sign of the times though. You can consider all the Marvel stuff a succession of sequels.

Blue Jam

Quote from: thecuriousorange on June 16, 2021, 05:18:49 PM
Interesting that it's reached nine installments and they're still absolutely massive blockbusters, rather than low-rent straight-to-video shit. Wouldn't have happened in seventies, eighties or nineties, unless you name was James Bond. Maybe that's more a sign of the times though. You can consider all the Marvel stuff a succession of sequels.

Transformers 7 is in development, along with a prequel and a couple of spin-offs.

I lost interest in the Transformers films when they started being about three hours long. Just thought "At least the F+F* films are short and sweet", but then I looked up the running time of F+F9 and seen it is two hours 25 minutes long. That's two minutes longer than Brazil FFS. Fuckit, might just look up the edited highlights of the Royal Mile car chase on YouTube.


*Florence + Fred.

beanheadmcginty

I remember watching whichever one of these is set in London and realising that the car chase I was watching actually had the vehicles at one point zooming past the cinema I was sitting in while watching it. Only time that has happened to me for a film. Hopefully people in Edinburgh can similarly enjoy this slightly unusual experience.

Blue Jam

Quote from: beanheadmcginty on June 17, 2021, 07:42:49 PM
I remember watching whichever one of these is set in London and realising that the car chase I was watching actually had the vehicles at one point zooming past the cinema I was sitting in while watching it. Only time that has happened to me for a film. Hopefully people in Edinburgh can similarly enjoy this slightly unusual experience.

That's what happens with The Illusionist (2010) where one scene has a character walk into screen 1 of the Cameo cinema. Apparently it's properly unnerving to actually watch the film from there, sitting slightly to the left:





I wouldn't know though, after a decade in Embra eagerly watching the cinema listings I have only ever managed to catch it at the Filmhouse up the road. Nice cinema but not the same.

Nae cinemas on the Royal Mile alas, just a load of tourist trap restaurants and tartan tat emporia.

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: thecuriousorange on June 16, 2021, 05:18:49 PM
Interesting that it's reached nine installments and they're still absolutely massive blockbusters, rather than low-rent straight-to-video shit. Wouldn't have happened in seventies, eighties or nineties, unless you name was James Bond. Maybe that's more a sign of the times though. You can consider all the Marvel stuff a succession of sequels.
The first 3 or 4 were truly insignificant. But yeah it's bizarre. Mission Impossible has been much slower. And Bond obviously shit and slow. Transformers tried spin-offs like Bumblebee but they are too niche. Marvel is the best comparison but it's no match for Vin Diesel drinking shit beer while his sister returns from the dead

The Culture Bunker

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on June 18, 2021, 11:06:42 PM
The first 3 or 4 were truly insignificant. But yeah it's bizarre. Mission Impossible has been much slower. And Bond obviously shit and slow. Transformers tried spin-offs like Bumblebee but they are too niche. Marvel is the best comparison.
At what stage did Dwayne Johnson get involved? He seems to be box-office gold these days. Bringing in Jason Statham might have helped give the franchise a boost too.

dissolute ocelot

Quote from: The Culture Bunker on June 18, 2021, 11:07:58 PM
At what stage did Dwayne Johnson get involved? He seems to be box-office gold these days. Bringing in Jason Statham might have helped give the franchise a boost too.
He arrived in 5 but feuded with Diesel hence him being shunted off to Hobbs and Shaw. He's much better though.

touchingcloth

I saw a trailer for this in the cinema (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) the other day, and it was ridiculous. It cut between the expected car chases, and Vin Diesel telling us how important "the movies" are to our mental well-being.