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Buying/owning a holiday home

Started by Blinder Data, June 17, 2021, 02:44:37 PM

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Blinder Data

Went on holiday recently which naturally made me wonder whether I could ever have my own holiday home. If money were no object and I had no morals, it would be somewhere in Italy/France/Spain to which I could travel by private jet.

Obviously that's unlikely, so now I'm looking up something more realistic: lodges and static caravans in UK holiday parks.

I reckon, with a bit of help from somewhere, I might be able to afford it. I could rent it out at other times of the year to help pay the bills and, when I get the urge, disappear for some NATURE of a long weekend. The Broons had a but 'n' ben and they were poorer than me, and it's not depriving locals of a house, so I'm not selling out my socialist principles by considering it...

For a few years when I was a nipper we had a house in Brittany but it didn't work out due to a lack of DIY skills/money and divorce.

Do you possess a holiday home? Is it a villa, a cottage, a plop of land? I promise if you admit it everyone won't call you an evil Tory.

And just wondering, is it free the last two weeks of September?

imitationleather

If you have a spare £40k you'll just about be able to afford a beach hut in Margate.

Seriously, what is the deal with beach huts and their crazy prices? Is it simply because they look nice and twee on Instagram?

Neomod

From Private Jet to Static Caravan in two sentences. Thatchers Brexit Britain.

My Nan must have been minted because in the 70's[nb]must have been cheaper than now[/nb] she would rent a beach chalet for the whole summer for us lot.

Thanks Nan.

steve98

Quote from: imitationleather on June 17, 2021, 02:50:08 PM
If you have a spare £40k you'll just about be able to afford a beach hut in Margate.

Seriously, what is the deal with beach cuts and their crazy prices? Is it simply because they look nice and twee on Instagram?

I'd be a bit anxious if I had an expensive beach hut: the locals can get a bit ...resentful.


Gurke and Hare

Quote from: Blinder Data on June 17, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
I reckon, with a bit of help from somewhere, I might be able to afford it. I could rent it out at other times of the year to help pay the bills and, when I get the urge, disappear for some NATURE of a long weekend. The Broons had a but 'n' ben and they were poorer than me, and it's not depriving locals of a house, so I'm not selling out my socialist principles by considering it...

Eh? How so?

And don't kid yourself about how poor the Broons were. Granpaw got a fucking massive insurance payout when Granmaw died.

steve98


Blinder Data

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on June 17, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
Eh? How so?

And don't kid yourself about how poor the Broons were. Granpaw got a fucking massive insurance payout when Granmaw died.

Well, it is depriving locals of a static caravan or holiday lodge to live in, I guess. Not quite the same as buying picturesque cottages in wee villages in the Highlands that are crying out for more housing.

And I guess you're right about the Broons. I think they had eight kids, four of them of working age. The whole family in the same flat so rent/mortgage must have been cheap. I wonder where all their money went - probably wasted on the pools by Pa, the crafty get.

imitationleather

My girlfriend's parents used to have a caravan, but apparently the costs ended up being sky-high. It's not the bargain option it once was.

A shame, because having a caravan by the seaside to piss off to loads would be great.

Endicott

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on June 17, 2021, 02:56:31 PM
Eh? How so?

People don't live all year round in static caravans in holiday parks. For a start, many of the parks close for the winter.

Gurke and Hare

Quote from: Blinder Data on June 17, 2021, 03:01:05 PM
Well, it is depriving locals of a static caravan or holiday lodge to live in, I guess.

Oh yeah, sorry, I missed that bit.

Quote from: steve98 on June 17, 2021, 02:59:20 PM
When he done her in, you mean.

Yeah, I didn't want to say that, but it's clear as a bell.

Endicott

Quote from: Blinder Data on June 17, 2021, 02:44:37 PM
Do you possess a holiday home?

Yes.

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Is it a villa, a cottage, a plop of land?

A tent.

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And just wondering, is it free the last two weeks of September?

I'm using it.

imitationleather

Sod all this caravan and holiday home nonsense. These days many seaside towns have skips and wheelie bins readily available.

Neomod

Befriend a Scottish/Lake District/Irish farmer. Save his life in a 'completely unplanned' threshing accident. Accept a small parcel of land and 10's of thousands of pounds as a thank you. Then build one of these.

£35,000


£45,000


Dunno what the deal is post brexit for Greek villas but they always seemed quite cheap.

steve98

Quote from: Gurke and Hare on June 17, 2021, 03:04:58 PM

Yeah, I didn't want to say that, but it's clear as a bell.

Yeah. She found out about Daphne and him (Daphne wasn't always repulsive)





dissolute ocelot

Static caravans are a massive racket for park owners. If you buy a static caravan you still have to pay fees to the caravan park which could be anything from about £2k to £10k+ per year. Before electricity, gas, etc. And once you're there you're at their mercy: at least with a proper caravan on wheels you can move somewhere cheaper or park it in the driveway of an elderly playwright and share in the adulation.

"Van living" seems very popular now, but I admit a static caravan or a decent mobile home would be more comfortable, despite missing out on the joys of the open road.

You could always find an unfashionable area of the country where the houses are going for a song and buy a holiday home there. Maybe Barnsley?

imitationleather

Might buy a Newcastle holiday home and live in that. Two byrds = One stone

imitationleather

Someone lend me enough cash for a Newcastle holiday home plz.

Fr.Bigley

Quote from: imitationleather on June 17, 2021, 03:29:46 PM
Someone lend me enough cash for a Newcastle holiday home plz.

I've heard Jarrow is lovely at no time of the year.

Quote from: imitationleather on June 17, 2021, 03:29:46 PM
Someone lend me enough cash for a Newcastle holiday home plz.

Do some weights and get a spray tan and you can stay in the Geordie Shore house for a bit.

Endicott

Quote from: Neomod on June 17, 2021, 03:13:10 PM
Dunno what the deal is post brexit for Greek villas but they always seemed quite cheap.

You can build or buy a Greek villa (on Crete anyway) for 600 to 700 thousand Euros. Bit outside my price range.

On the plus side, if you did do that the Greeks would give you a 'golden visa'[nb]can't recall the proper name for this[/nb] which would allow you pretty much the same travel rights that we lost over Brexit.

Neomod

Quote from: Endicott on June 17, 2021, 03:51:06 PM
You can build or buy a Greek villa (on Crete anyway) for 600 to 700 thousand Euros. Bit outside my price range.

On the plus side, if you did do that the Greeks would give you a 'golden visa'[nb]can't recall the proper name for this[/nb] which would allow you pretty much the same travel rights that we lost over Brexit.

Blimey, I was thinking 30 grand.

Quote from: Fr.Bigley on June 17, 2021, 03:45:26 PM
I've heard Jarrow is lovely at no time of the year.


Blumf

Never got it. Holiday in the same place every year, why? Plus, pretty sure the expense and hassle would cost you more (money and stress) than the rates of a half decent hotel, never mind a B&B or camping.

Fr.Bigley


Blinder Data

Quote from: Blumf on June 17, 2021, 04:14:49 PM
Never got it. Holiday in the same place every year, why? Plus, pretty sure the expense and hassle would cost you more (money and stress) than the rates of a half decent hotel, never mind a B&B or camping.

I think you have to really love either the location or the house. Otherwise I sort of agree - the maintenance and the monotony bring difficulties. However, if you rent it out for the rest of the year for £££, I'm sure those difficulties melt away...

Colleague of mine has Italian family and flies to her holiday flat in Puglia about 3-4 times a year. That's too much hassle for me (plus killing the planet, etc.). The things I'm looking at are two hours drive from my house. People with holiday caravans might stay in them once or twice a month. Wouldn't that be nice to have..?

Like many boomers, my parents bought a campervan (converted Transporter) during lockdown. Excluding the fact there's a national campervan shortage, it's actually pretty pokey and once you set up camp, you're loath to drive it elsewhere, which takes away the "mobility" benefits. Again, unless you're good with cars and have a big driveway, think of the maintenance!

Just seen a posh 2 bed lodge on Arran going for £160K - ay carumba


Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: dissolute ocelot on June 17, 2021, 03:27:28 PM
Static caravans are a massive racket for park owners. If you buy a static caravan you still have to pay fees to the caravan park which could be anything from about £2k to £10k+ per year. Before electricity, gas, etc. And once you're there you're at their mercy: at least with a proper caravan on wheels you can move somewhere cheaper or park it in the driveway of an elderly playwright and share in the adulation.


Yeh someone was trying to sell a pitch of one at a place I worked and I think it was about 13 bags a year, lol.

It wouldn't be so bad but all the ones I've seen are packed really tightly as well. Just overly dense, no real privacy and the things themselves spoiling the view.

There's an old almost-abandoned one just outside of Aberdeen, I think there's some people living in it that can't be turfed out so the place is just rotting away around them. I went up in a car with a mate to have a look around.

It clearly must be a regular thing as someone had white-board marked things like "TRANSIT VAN REG: B14 BLA looking in windows for copper" on the windows of some of them to ward people off I guess. Should've parked round the corner.

Good few photos of it here on an urbex forum:
https://www.28dayslater.co.uk/threads/rob-roy-caravan-park-aberdeen-16-03-08.29936/

Neomod

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on June 17, 2021, 05:56:14 PM
There's an old almost-abandoned one just outside of Aberdeen, I think there's some people living in it that can't be turfed out so the place is just rotting away around them. I went up in a car with a mate to have a look around.

How about a 'full english' at your very own breakfast nook.


Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Just book a caravan/self-catering cottage somewhere for a week. I have enough trouble maintaining one house, there's no way I'd manage two, especially if I wasn't living in the second one.

Sebastian Cobb

I'd have hoped the one I'm not in would sort of stay as it is.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Who buys a holiday home and doesn't try and immediately shag it? I would be in there on day 1