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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2021, 07:57:26 PM »
Everyone addicted to heroin is on fentanyl now, and that comes from China.

Okay, not "everyone". But it's getting there and it's probably inevitable.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #61 on: August 15, 2021, 09:39:19 AM »
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Afghans who received Scholarships from the UK government to study in the UK this year have now been told they will not be granted visas due to "administration issues". #Chevening

https://twitter.com/BBCYaldaHakim/status/1426605800991207428

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #62 on: August 15, 2021, 09:41:49 AM »
Oof that's fucking nasty, even by our standards.

Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #63 on: August 15, 2021, 09:43:27 AM »
Oh for fuck’s sake.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #64 on: August 15, 2021, 09:57:19 AM »
The Taliban are surrounding Kabul now although they are currently seeking a non-violent transfer of power.

The government are doing the whole "nothing to see here everything under control" while double-blade helicopters clear out the US embassy

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #65 on: August 15, 2021, 10:07:22 AM »
The Taliban are surrounding Kabul now although they are currently seeking a non-violent transfer of power.

That's a nice way of saying "unconditional surrender".

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #66 on: August 15, 2021, 10:43:24 AM »
Bish bosh all done apparently. President will officially step down for Taliban interim government in a few hours.

Congratulations to all involved.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #67 on: August 15, 2021, 10:48:00 AM »
This is tragic, if not unexpected, news for the people of Afghanistan. What's your source, BTW? Sky News still says Ghani is "clinging on to the capital" as of 26 mins ago.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #68 on: August 15, 2021, 10:49:30 AM »
From the BBC

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The acting Afghan interior minister has appeared in a video, broadcast on local outlet Tolo TV, saying there would be a "peaceful transfer of power" to a transitional government. He said Kabul would not come under attack.

Might not be the whole government, but some have already capitulated. I can't see the rest holding out more than a couple of hours at this point.

It's over.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #69 on: August 15, 2021, 10:53:20 AM »
Thanks.

URL: https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-asia-58219963

"The acting Afghan interior minister has appeared in a video, broadcast on local outlet Tolo TV, saying there would be a "peaceful transfer of power" to a transitional government.

The Associated Press news agency, citing an Afghan official, said Taliban negotiators were heading to the presidential palace to prepare for a "transfer" of power."

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #70 on: August 15, 2021, 11:12:17 AM »
*larry david fainting gif* 

I'm sure there were great people on both sides.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #71 on: August 15, 2021, 11:24:16 AM »
This is why we spent 20 years in Afghanistan, well done everyone, mission accomplished.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #72 on: August 15, 2021, 11:27:50 AM »
This is just fucking brutal in the speed of collapse.

Bit of insight into how:

https://twitter.com/HuntClancy/status/1426371366987644930
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TheHuntForTomClancy @HuntClancy
Talked to a buddy who was an Embedded Tactical Trainer with the ANA in Afghanistan for a few tours.

Some of his observations as to why the Afghan National Army is folding so quickly were quite interesting to me, so here goes

('Askars' are basic troops in the Afghan army)

Pretty obvious that 20 years has been nothing but a money cycling exercise for the West, with nothing put into rebuilding Afghan society in any meaningful way.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #73 on: August 15, 2021, 11:30:22 AM »
Just need to legalise heroin and opium and grow it in Europe and North America. The Taliban are funded by opium money, just as their opponents were funded by corruptly-disbursed western money coming in through other, more official channels.

Back to the previous page, this is a good point. Afghanistan has the perfect agricultural base for a totalitarian pariah state government which must fund itself based on black-market dealings.


Everyone addicted to heroin is on fentanyl now, and that comes from China.

then again:

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Afghanistan's harvest produces more than 90% of illicit heroin in the world, and more than 95% of the European supply.[2][3] More land is used than is used for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 93% of the non-pharmaceutical-grade opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan.[4] This amounts to an export value of about US$4 billion, with a quarter being earned by opium farmers and the rest going to district officials, insurgents, warlords, and drug traffickers.[5] In the seven years (1994–2000) prior to a Taliban opium ban, the Afghan farmers' share of gross income from opium was divided among 200,000 families.[6] As of 2017, opium production provides about 400,000 jobs in Afghanistan, more than the Afghan National Security Forces.[7] The opium trade spiked in 2006 after the Taliban lost control of local warlords. In addition to opium, Afghanistan is also the world's leading producer of hashish.[8]

"More land is used than is used for coca cultivation in Latin America" - wow, these utter cunts are going to be rich

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #74 on: August 15, 2021, 11:37:41 AM »
Pretty obvious that 20 years has been nothing but a money cycling exercise for the West, with nothing put into rebuilding Afghan society in any meaningful way.

*larry david fainting gif*

International working class lives and money taken by weapons companies and big oil in return for death.  Same as it ever was.


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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2021, 11:48:59 AM »


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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2021, 04:42:26 PM »
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Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said he had shared his "deep concerns about the future for Afghanistan" with Pakistan's foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi.

Thanks Dominic, you utter waste of skin.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #77 on: August 15, 2021, 05:40:05 PM »
Afghani pres has scarpered!

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #78 on: August 15, 2021, 05:40:34 PM »
How many letters?

Pagan fisher?  Though how that's scarpered I do not know.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #79 on: August 15, 2021, 06:22:03 PM »
This is just fucking brutal in the speed of collapse.

Bit of insight into how:

https://twitter.com/HuntClancy/status/1426371366987644930
('Askars' are basic troops in the Afghan army)

So, pretty-much exactly the same as happened to the Iraqi Army when faced with Daesh.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #80 on: August 15, 2021, 06:44:34 PM »
what a great use of twenty years of occupation when the country you were supposed to 'stabilize' gets its government overthrown in a couple days. such a dissonance between the way they see themselves and how pathetic they truly are

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #81 on: August 15, 2021, 06:45:28 PM »
Hahahaha lets laugh at this silly old cunt

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1426962108575633409

Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2021, 07:12:42 PM »
He's away with the fairies. Should be in a home.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2021, 07:17:42 PM »
Actually less coherent than Trump.

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #84 on: August 15, 2021, 07:23:33 PM »
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Benny Hunter
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One thing the government could do immediately - provide amnesty to undocumented Afghans in the UK. How many Afghan asylum-seekers were refused on the grounds they could return to Kabul and be safe there? That has been proven false.

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Just heard about a young Afghan asylum-seeker who was refused by the Home Office *LAST WEEK* on the grounds that he could be safely returned to Kabul.

What a joke.

https://twitter.com/BennnyH/status/1426856194279362563


Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2021, 07:28:01 PM »
Actually less coherent than Trump.

I avoid watching videos of him speaking because it makes me think Trump might get back in: I feel more and more Americans must think - JfC! look at the state of this brain-withered, dribbling old coffin-dodger. Fuck. Was the orange lunatic really all that bad?

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #86 on: August 15, 2021, 07:29:26 PM »
He's away with the fairies. Should be in a home.
the white house basically is sheltered accomodation for old cranks for most of the mid 20th century onwards

Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #87 on: August 15, 2021, 07:30:03 PM »
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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #88 on: August 15, 2021, 07:30:55 PM »
I sure hope Afghanistan didn't take out the extended warranty on that rebuilt society. I expect they're on hold with NATO's support line as we speak.

Hahahaha lets laugh at this silly old cunt

https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1426962108575633409

"Well equipped" -> "We bought them all the best toys, what else is there?"

Here's a thought; the Taliban now have a "well equipped" air force, as well as armoured vehicles, and a bunch of other weapons. That'll be fun.

He's another thought; Iran and the Taliban don't exactly like each other[1]. I wonder who benefits from that.
 1. There was even a point where Iran was considering helping the US with intel. Naturally Saudi Arabia/Israelthe US pooh-poohed the idea and continued stumbling about blindly

Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #89 on: August 15, 2021, 08:53:36 PM »
Here's a thought; the Taliban now have a "well equipped" air force, as well as armoured vehicles, and a bunch of other weapons.

Luckily they're all right hand drive

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