Cunt police pleads guilty.

[idunnosomename]

It was how he was going to dump the body on HIS OWN LAND. And then didn't manage to get it there. Would've been the perfect crime otherwise

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

Sounds like this guy will move immediately to the top of the to do list (Giving Watkins(Ian) a break.)

just when I was sure that this thread wasn't going to degenerate into people delighting in prison rape

[earl_sleek]

I'm not sure of the process for ending up in a secure hospital like Broadmoor other than mental health issues being involved (i.e. you're declared legally insane for example), but I think that would already have been raised if that were the case with this, but again I don't really know much about that side of it.

I think a Section 37 (or 37/41) order under the Mental Health Act is usually how people get sent to secure units (certainly in my limited experience with forensic mental health it is) - he hasn't been sentenced yet so the judge could still order that. Would be interesting if that turns out to be the case, his behaviour does seem very odd and I'd be surprised if there aren't details that the public haven't heard yet.

[steve98]

just when I was sure that this thread wasn't going to degenerate into people delighting in prison rape

"Delighting in"? Don't know how you work that out.

[checkoutgirl]

it's unbelievable how he made no effort whatsoever to not be traced.

Thanks to some of the 2 million cameras dotted around the country they knew she got in his car so I doubt they were going to be looking for anyone else. Anyone doing anything like this on the streets of London has to either be extremely careful (hoodie, obscured number plates etc) or want to get caught.

Or choose a black victim because the police aren't going to put as much effort in then.

[Buelligan]

I think a Section 37 (or 37/41) order under the Mental Health Act is usually how people get sent to secure units (certainly in my limited experience with forensic mental health it is) - he hasn't been sentenced yet so the judge could still order that. Would be interesting if that turns out to be the case, his behaviour does seem very odd and I'd be surprised if there aren't details that the public haven't heard yet.

Though this presents some difficult questions for the Met - if his behaviour was very odd, why didn't they do anything about the very odd behaviour? 

The man was a firearms person, someone not only responsible for being capable of using a firearm with proper responsibility but also tasked with the security of individuals and groups seen as particularly under threat (and therefore in need of extremely diligent and responsible oversight and protection).  And yet, as you say, his behaviour was palpably odd, even to the point where he was apparently committing public sex crimes (and nothing was being done about them when they were reported).

How can the Met square this circle?  To me, they cannot.  Cunt police.

[Dr Rock]

It's not really clear why he did it. I wonder if there's more to this than we're seeing at the moment.

Er, he wanted to rape a young woman? And then planned to hide the body. It's not exactly a head-scratcher.

[Buelligan]

I know fuck-all about this case, apart from being utterly dismayed by it, but if I had to guess, I'd say it was about impunity, about power to behave in terrible proscribed ways and getting away with it.  To get the hit off of it, there has to be risk, otherwise how does it confirm your ubermenschness?  Joining the cunt police is an obvious step on that path.

[pigamus]

My guess is this isn't the first, and he did nothing to stop himself being caught because he wanted to be caught.

[idunnosomename]

His nickname was "the rapist".
Bobby banter

[Thursday]

Wish I was the cunt police. Nobody would be allowed near a cunt except me 😏😏😏 😂😂😂

[Buelligan]

That might prove somewhat problematic for some of us.

[Sherringford Hovis]

(Giving Watkins(Ian) a break.)

Poor Ian. KitKats only come in 4-packs now - they were all eaten by Lee, Lisa, Faye and Claire.

[idunnosomename]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/29/wayne-couzens-used-police-id-to-kidnap-sarah-everard-court-told

cunt getting sentenced today and tomorrow.

fuck the police

[Twit 2]

I hope he goes to a prison for "real jerks."

[imitationleather]

I've never met a policeman but if this is what they're all like you can keep them!

[Twit 2]

I love policemen but I couldn't eat a whole one!

[idunnosomename]

A policeman let me wear his helmet once! Made my day. I was 28 years old.

[buzby]

Reading the details in the Sky link above, it's unbelievable how he made no effort whatsoever to not be traced. You'd think that a copper of all people would have at least attempted to cover his tracks but, no, the old scraggly woods it is.

That alone must be a sign he was off his head.

Well, he did wipe the data from his phone 39 minutes before they came to his house to arrest him. However, that just opens up the avenue that he was tipped off by one of the other officers involved (presumably one of the 12 who were being investigated for misconduct relating to the case).

[TrenterPercenter]

That alone must be a sign he was off his head.

If you are seriously implying an MH angle[nb]as I appreciate "off his head" is a colloquialism[/nb] on this then I would absolutely advise caution he hasn't displayed any signs or symptoms other than the expectation that because he is a copper he would have covered his tracks when it's just quite likely he thought he would get away with it because he wouldn't be a suspect.  I've not seen any evidence of any psychopathology so far (not saying it isn't possible but looks very unlikely on the evidence so far). 

Seems to be a very sinister and calculated crime, rape is all about power and control which is how he dictated his disgusting act using his status as a "trusted" member of society to opportunistically isolate and murder a young woman (with murder often following these crimes as a way of removing the witness).  Nothing suggests his full responsibility should be diminished in this.

[pigamus]

It seems half calculated and half not calculated at all, that's the weird thing about it. Obviously he's complacent and arrogant but he's not stupid. Or maybe he is.

[TrenterPercenter]

It seems half calculated and half not calculated at all, that's the weird thing about it. Obviously he's complacent and arrogant but he's not stupid. Or maybe he is.

Complacent and arrogant people are stupid.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

If you are seriously implying an MH angle[1] on this then I would absolutely advise caution

Careful. Mental health mate. Mental health there mate. Mental health there. Careful.

[pigamus]

Just put one of those yellow things down, you know like for a wet floor

[touchingcloth]

Had the details about the cunt police using his credentials to coerce Everard been made public before today? Somehow this case hasn't yet finished getting worse.

[Icehaven]

Had the details about the cunt police using his credentials to coerce Everard been made public before today? Somehow this case hasn't yet finished getting worse.

No but there was speculation, particularly given how much focus was put on the fact he's a policeman, it seemed pretty likely he'd done something like that to get her into his car without it looking like he was kidnapping her.   

[GMTV]

Well, he did wipe the data from his phone 39 minutes before they came to his house to arrest him. However, that just opens up the avenue that he was tipped off by one of the other officers involved (presumably one of the 12 who were being investigated for misconduct relating to the case).

[TrenterPercenter]

Careful. Mental health mate. Mental health there mate. Mental health there. Careful.

So am I meant to ignore this? or reply and then get blamed for being the instigator? Not sure.

1. You are a very salty bald man (two threads now)
2. I was being quite polite and purposely not trying to moralise in making my point about the often prejudicial link between MH and violent crime.

[TrenterPercenter]

Had the details about the cunt police using his credentials to coerce Everard been made public before today? Somehow this case hasn't yet finished getting worse.

The details are very chilling; I reckon this could potentially lead to the Met atleast being forced to make it look like they are doing something to reduce the risk of this happening again.  It brings the police into a massive area of disrepute and not a brown or black face to try and distract from it.  Very interested to see what happens.

[idunnosomename]

im sure Cressida Dick will perform a full investigation and be given an enormous medal for it