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Booster jabs looking likely
« on: July 22, 2021, 01:06:25 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/22/uk-scientists-back-covid-boosters-as-study-finds-post-jab-falls-in-antibodies

Given the trail off, we are looking at needing at least 2 Covid booster jabs a year until ??

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Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2021, 01:19:47 PM »
Will we have to pay I wonder?

Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2021, 02:07:56 PM »
This is what antibodies always do. As the quote at the end says:

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Prof Matthew Snape, a vaccinologist at Oxford University, said: “Studies such as this do not in themselves provide evidence of waning protection from vaccines but are really important to help us understand what’s going on if population-based studies showed any drop-off in protection with increasing time since immunisation.

“A decline in antibodies in the blood following immunisation is to be expected, and does not necessarily correspond to an increase risk of disease. Protection against infection could well be down to whether or not there are antibodies in the respiratory lining, and protection against progression to severe disease following infection may be provided by T cells.

(In very simple terms, memory T cells retain information about a virus so antibodies can be created again in the future. If your body kept producing antibodies continuously for every virus you'd been exposed to then you'd have lymph nodes the size of golf balls.)

There is some new research from Israel that there might be a very slight drop-off in protection with the Pfizer vaccine after 9 months but it's too early to be conclusive and the protection is still easily enough to prevent severe disease.

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Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2021, 02:56:11 PM »
If your body kept producing antibodies continuously for every virus you'd been exposed to then you'd have lymph nodes the size of golf balls cats
https://youtu.be/VxGgjW9291Q?t=16

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Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2021, 03:17:16 PM »
This is what antibodies always do. As the quote at the end says:
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Prof Matthew Snape[...]
Professor Snape?! Look out muggles!

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Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2021, 03:29:35 PM »
Not seeing this in todays data. Slight drop off in 50+ ages, but not 80+.

Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2021, 10:09:12 AM »
Very long and occasionally quite technical but possibly interesting to some of you thread on the need or not for booster shots: https://twitter.com/celinegounder/status/1417544454223843333.

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Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2021, 10:40:34 AM »
The booster jabs and status allow them to further hammer in the wedge of 'national citizen identity database' via covid passports. They'll love that.

Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2021, 11:08:06 AM »
Very long and occasionally quite technical but possibly interesting to some of you thread on the need or not for booster shots: https://twitter.com/celinegounder/status/1417544454223843333.

Annoyingly, as seems to be the case with most info about vaccines these days, there's barely any mention of the AstraZeneca vaccine in there.

Re: Booster jabs looking likely
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2021, 11:13:00 AM »
According to AZ's CEO yesterday:

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"There are two dimensions to this immunity — antibodies [which] decline over time, but the second, very important dimension of vaccination is the so-called T-cells. They tend to protect people against severe disease, but they also provide durability," Soriot explained.

"With the technology we use, we have very high production of T-cells. We're hoping we can have a durable vaccine that protects for a long period of time. So whether we will need a third booster or not is not clear yet, only time will tell."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/29/astrazeneca-ceo-not-clear-if-covid-19-vaccine-boosters-necessary.html

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