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Spitting Image trending on Twitter due to racial controversy

Started by Retinend, July 24, 2021, 05:38:05 PM

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Retinend


Ornlu

It is OK to feature specific people who are black on a satirical comedy show

Ambient Sheep

Yeah, that's a bit beyond reasonable caricature, the lips especially.

Also, why does the puppet have eyes that are really close together, when the human doesn't?


bgmnts

Seems like deliberately searching out for things to get offended by, and this is what turns so many people off.

Echo Valley 2-6809

The problem was touched on in a previous SI thread. https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,75477.msg4283666.html#msg4283666

Rashford's lips are too big for no good reason, even if it's not as bad and as ugly as their old Prince and Frank Bruno ones.

idunnosomename

The puppet looks nowt like him.

He has quite thin lips. The puppet has big lips. It is not a standard feature of Spitting Image puppets to have big lips.



Its shit lazy and accidentally really rather racist.

PlanktonSideburns

It's racist and shite

ALSO making grotesques of everyone and passing it off a satire, and therefire worthy is witless, lazy and miserable. When it's not being racist, it's just being shite

Kankurette

Quote from: bgmnts on July 24, 2021, 06:11:55 PM
Seems like deliberately searching out for things to get offended by, and this is what turns so many people off.
Nah.

stonkers

Quote from: bgmnts on July 24, 2021, 06:11:55 PM
Seems like deliberately searching out for things to get offended by, and this is what turns so many people off.

You should sit this one out.

Kankurette

Turns so many people off what, anyway? Not being racist?

Natnar

People don't seem to be bothered about Southgate's lips being bigger.

idunnosomename

Quote from: Natnar on July 24, 2021, 08:54:36 PM
People don't seem to be bothered about Southgate's lips being bigger.
i wonder why that is


Kankurette

Southgate is white and caricatures of white people don't tend to give them big lips. Look at the way black and white people are drawn in Tintin and Asterix, for instance. Hope that helps.

Natnar

But there have been plenty of white Spitting Image puppets with big lips.

idunnosomename

i just think that when you're caricaturing a black man as a puppet for a comedy show, you should be sensitive enough to the history of racial caricature not to give them big lips when they don't have them. it's not hard.

this "oh you're just looking to be offended" might have worked back in the 00s when racism was in its grave and lucas and walliams could black-up to public approval, but not now.

Beagle 2

It's not a great look is it. On a basic level I would have thought that making a puppet look fuck all like who they're supposed to be and not giving a black puppet massive comedy lips for no reason would have been written down somewhere as "don't".

idunnosomename

i would also advise making the puppet fucking look like who it's supposed to be rather than like a random young black dude

JamesTC


Natnar

I agree that the puppet does perpetuate the old racist stereotype but like it's been pointed out earlier Spitting Image have been doing this type of puppet for years. The issue should have dealt with by Spitting Image years ago.

Icehaven

Genuinely thought the Gareth Southgate one was supposed to be Will Self.

jobotic

When people say "you're looking to be offended" why do they think anyone would?

Quote from: idunnosomename on July 24, 2021, 09:25:33 PM
i would also advise making the puppet fucking look like who it's supposed to be rather than like a random young black dude

I scrolled down on this thread a bit quick and saw the puppet before I knew who it was meant to be.  Had no idea.  Really not a good caricature, and questionable taste as others have pointed out.

mippy

Looks fuck-all like him, even allowing for it being a caricature. As does the Kane one.

chveik

how did these idiots get a new series

and yes if your caricature of a black man looks nothing like him and replicates old racist traits, it's really dodgy

Natnar

It's like the puppet makers couldn't be arsed to design Rashford's face so they just went with a "generic" design.

jamiefairlie

They got his cheekbones right. Kudos to the cheekbones specialist.

Kankurette

The Kane one looks more like Harry Enfield. Also, the Klopp one is just stupid. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd be insulted.

idunnosomename

Quote from: jamiefairlie on July 24, 2021, 10:05:08 PM
They got his cheekbones right. Kudos to the cheekbones specialist.
eyebrows arent bad either