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Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2021, 03:25:21 AM »
No, it wouldn't. That's the point I was making.

why wouldn't it? Lockdown = less cases until kids get vaccinated, then gradual return.

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Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2021, 07:38:16 AM »
The JCVI have just decided not to so it's a moot point anyway.

Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2021, 07:44:14 AM »
Lock downs are never coming back. The evidence of collateral damage is mounting up and they're looking ever more unfeasible.

This is just one headline from today

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/04/lockdown-weight-gain-more-at-risk-type-2-diabetes-nhs-study

Kids are at such a low risk from covid and covid related outcomes, closing schools can't be justified. Doing so causes way more damage to kids.

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Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2021, 09:29:45 AM »
why wouldn't it? Lockdown = less cases until kids get vaccinated, then gradual return.

Because vaccines mostly reduce severity in disease rather than the chances of catching it. Children today will catch covid multiple times over their lifetime. Closing schools will not change this.

Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2021, 10:49:32 AM »
Kids are at such a low risk from covid and covid related outcomes, closing schools can't be justified. Doing so causes way more damage to kids.

One in seven 11-17 year olds still have symptoms 3 months after testing positive: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/01/one-in-seven-children-with-covid-still-suffering-three-months-later-study

One in seven isn't what I'd call an especially low risk.

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Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2021, 10:59:31 AM »
1 in 7 have very vague, poorly defined mild symptoms.

The actual figures are 30% of those who tested positive had "symptoms". Which sounds terrible until you discover that 17% of those who tested negative.

It's the normal long covid story. Conflate a high prevalence of mild, normal post viral symptoms with rare, unpleasant chronic conditions to make the story a bit scary, so it has some actual interest.

Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2021, 05:39:29 PM »
Exactly.

This is a different take on that study
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58410584

This is the impact on obesity for kids in America:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2783690

I wonder if a similar thing happened here?

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Re: Back to school in much of England and Wales and Northern Ireland this week
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2021, 03:04:11 PM »
First PCR test of the year today, after a mild cough and sore throat have persisted. Surprised it's taken this long to be honest, what with 1 in 50 students bothering with masks, 1 in 10 staff members using them, and higher case numbers in college than ever before. Joke.

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