Author Topic: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings  (Read 3637 times)

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2021, 12:22:31 PM »
Unfavorably compared by a few, cooler than thou giddy jizzlings that think everyone should be equally impressed by about a decades worth of decent cinema from a former British colony as they are.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2021, 12:31:16 PM »
1) About three decades worth.

2) Hou Hsiao-hsien is Taiwanese.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2021, 12:35:49 PM »
I could give a fuck mate. Shang Chi, keeping cinema alive, giving your boy work.

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2021, 12:38:44 PM »
What on earth are you jabbering about?

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2021, 12:45:45 PM »
Shang Chi's BO performance was informing a lot of big studios release dates.

Hong Kong is dead.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2021, 12:50:27 PM »
Fascinating. Have you seen this film yet, LM?

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2021, 12:51:08 PM »
No.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2021, 12:54:16 PM »
Ah.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2021, 12:56:08 PM »
But let's take it back to... Tony Leung is too good to appear in a Marvel film. Ben Kingsley, Scarlet Johannsson, Downey Jr, fucking Robert Redford, Cate Bkanchett, Anthony Hopkins etc... etc... He's better.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2021, 12:57:05 PM »
Ah.

It's marvel, seen one, seen em' all. Like Hong Kong films.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2021, 01:01:43 PM »
It has often been remarked that A Touch of Zen and Ebola Syndrome are basically the same film!

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2021, 01:28:45 PM »
But let's take it back to... Tony Leung is too good to appear in a Marvel film. Ben Kingsley, Scarlet Johannsson, Downey Jr, fucking Robert Redford, Cate Bkanchett, Anthony Hopkins etc... etc... He's better.

Have to go back to this because it's continued to tickle me. You're telling me that Robert Fucking Redford, the most safe and boring of all the great 70s leading men, and the star of The Way We Were and Indecent Proposal, would appear in commercial schlock for money? Well I just don't buy it! Anthony Hopkins hamming it up for a cheque? Who could suggest that he's ever done such a thing?

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2021, 01:35:59 PM »
It's impossible to know what someone's intentions are to be in this or that, it's just projection on your part. I'm sure Robert Redford had no clue what a marvel is and just took a big bag of cash dumped in front of him, but on the other hand, Werner Herzog appeared in that awful Jack Reacher film because he wanted to and thought it would be fun. Ethan Hawke is going to be in Moon Knight because he's a fan of the comics. Some people like to do films that their kids will enjoy. There's more than one thing that actors are getting out of whatever they choose to do, certainly money being one element.


Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2021, 01:39:39 PM »
In truth, from his interviews and the evidence of the film itself I reckon Tony Leung was enticed by the possibility that he would get to play a fully fleshed-out character in a film that would potentially present a new kind of challenge for him, got assurances to that effect up front, and did a creditable job. Him being wary of Hollywood up until now might be related to the way that Hollywood frequently wastes the Asian talent that comes its way, as seen in the dismal run of Chow Yun-Fat a while ago.
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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2021, 06:10:31 PM »
a decades worth of decent cinema from a former British colony

Well alrite 😂😂😂

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2021, 08:10:28 PM »
I wish this had the potential to be as good as Zu Warriors From The Magic Mountain

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2021, 10:09:55 PM »
In truth, from his interviews and the evidence of the film itself I reckon Tony Leung was enticed by the possibility that he would get to play a fully fleshed-out character in a film that would potentially present a new kind of challenge for him, got assurances to that effect up front, and did a creditable job. Him being wary of Hollywood up until now might be related to the way that Hollywood frequently wastes the Asian talent that comes its way, as seen in the dismal run of Chow Yun-Fat a while ago.

I'd say a big issue as well is when Hollywood might have come calling, he might have been around for just as long as Chow and even stared in some of the same films but really I'd say the point at which Hollywood might have been seriously interested is probably significantly latter, most likely in the 00's and by the second half of that decade you had hollywood level budgets in Chinese cinema anyway with stuff like Red Cliff.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #77 on: September 27, 2021, 12:27:50 PM »
Just saw this. Was fun. Some slightly weird tonal shifts though - Ben Kingsley and his cute animal friend seemed very Disney and out of place, after the early part had a much more east Asian vibe. Wasn't terrible, but Awkwafina was much better for comic relief and seemed to fit in the movie unlike our Ben.

As for Tony Leung, great actor but certainly not someone who's a purist about only doing serious art movies - for every In The Mood For Love there's a big dumb action movie or kids animation voice work or whatever pays the bills.

Agree Simu Liu (as Shang-Chi) was a bit dull, but at least he can do the action scenes more convincingly than a lot of Marvel (despite not having much of a background in action movies).

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #78 on: October 05, 2021, 04:46:15 PM »
Absolutely loved this, and I'm disappointed by all the bores wanking off over their own cultural superiority in this thread (can't tell whether that's the behaviour of teenagers trying to prove they're smart or old men terrified of change, but either way it's not good).

The action scenes were mostly great and well-choreographed, the characters were fun, the jokes landed, it moved along at a fair old clip and, y'know, "Little" Tony Leung. There was the odd plot hole, sure, but for the most part it was just a big old hoot. Joyous stuff. And anyone moaning about Kingsley needs to fuck themselves right off into the moon.

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2021, 05:08:58 PM »
Christ, most of this page is like walking into a games workshop or something

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2021, 05:13:55 PM »
Yeah who let the nerds onto this internet forum

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #81 on: October 05, 2021, 05:18:08 PM »
EXACTLY

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #82 on: October 05, 2021, 05:22:10 PM »
Yeah sorry, it's just that there's a really strangely heightened sensitivity and defensiveness around these Marvel films in particular which it's sometimes enlightening to prod at and fuck around with. Won't become a regular feature, I just happened to see this film because it seemed more in my wheelhouse than the usual fare. I enjoyed the film and thought it was nice and Awkwafina was funny and it was fine.

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2021, 05:22:28 PM »
I was replying to this specifically because people were/are getting wound up enough to point this sort of thing out and it's really funny to read, sorry, probably never going to bother with Shang Chi ultimately

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #84 on: October 05, 2021, 05:23:58 PM »
Yeah sorry, it's just that there's a really strangely heightened sensitivity and defensiveness around these Marvel films in particular which it's sometimes enlightening to prod at and fuck around with. Won't become a regular feature, I just happened to see this film because it seemed more in my wheelhouse than the usual fare. I enjoyed the film and thought it was nice and Awkwafina was funny and it was fine.

Don’t need to apologise to me I’m being a cunt

Awkwafina is skill and wicked tho

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #85 on: October 05, 2021, 05:24:40 PM »
that said this wont be as good as A Colt Is My Passport

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #86 on: October 05, 2021, 05:25:25 PM »
It’ll be no Snake in June sure

Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #87 on: October 05, 2021, 06:38:05 PM »
Yeah I liked this. The bus fight was thrilling though it did get a bit serious and po-faced towards the end. Was glad they finished with a funny final and mid-credits scene.

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Re: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings
« Reply #88 on: October 05, 2021, 11:12:23 PM »
edit why bother

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