Author Topic: 24 - was it any good?  (Read 3289 times)

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #60 on: September 15, 2021, 09:34:33 PM »
Yeah. It's fucking awful, but it's incredible. Absolute batshit inconsistent nonsense, but so much fun. People always rag on Kim's season 2 plot, but it's exactly why the show is so good. Just bizarre, wonky Duplo-block plotting, smashing ridiculous setpieces together in the desire for ever-escalating stakes. Jack Bauer an unimpeachable robot, always in the right, kicking seven shades of shit out of the world. Its sense of morality was warped beyond reality, but it was a laugh seeing them constantly remaneuver things to always ensure the CTU gang had the moral high ground, even if they were doing something they previously stated explicitly was evil.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #61 on: September 15, 2021, 10:49:48 PM »
Got quite invested in one of the series in a mad binge way. Couldn't even tell you what happened except that Jack Bauer had to execute  Father Intintola from The Sopranos and I think we were supposed to be pleased about it because he was such a jobsworth in CTU.

But the main thing I remember is the way the phones sounded in CTU. So cool. Always wanted a phone like that when desk phones existed.

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« Reply #62 on: September 15, 2021, 11:12:04 PM »
Got quite invested in one of the series in a mad binge way. Couldn't even tell you what happened except that Jack Bauer had to execute  Father Intintola from The Sopranos and I think we were supposed to be pleased about it because he was such a jobsworth in CTU.

Genuinely harrowing. Ryan Chappelle wasn't a bad bloke really. Season 3 really did have some great moments.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2021, 11:16:39 PM »
Yea - it was. I hate that kind of sequence anyway where someone is going to their own doom but in cold blood - but that 20 mins really sticks in my mind.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #64 on: September 16, 2021, 12:38:30 AM »
Got quite invested in one of the series in a mad binge way. Couldn't even tell you what happened except that Jack Bauer had to execute  Father Intintola from The Sopranos and I think we were supposed to be pleased about it because he was such a jobsworth in CTU.

But the main thing I remember is the way the phones sounded in CTU. So cool. Always wanted a phone like that when desk phones existed.

Ryan Chapelle. Season 2 and 3 I think?

They were video phones too. Not very good ones, might have had a portrait oriented screen? We have video phones now, some Cisco model. Do most of my meetings on them. They may even do the CTU ringtone, I’ve never bothered to find out but think I’ve heard others’ do it.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #65 on: September 18, 2021, 11:35:10 AM »
The replies are making me what to seek out season 5. I'll be back (in 24 hours, give or take) to do a right moan if it's shite!

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #66 on: September 18, 2021, 11:38:27 AM »
Well I for one bamlem jack buaer.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #67 on: September 18, 2021, 11:55:53 AM »
Watched the fourth episode of season 1 last night.

Quare haircut Kiefer has in season 1.

Also all the women in it are absolutely tiny. Wonder when American TV let go of that blanket size zero only casting policy.

Don't recall seeing Tony in it, wonder is he a later addition?

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #68 on: September 18, 2021, 05:04:24 PM »
Watched the fourth episode of season 1 last night.

Quare haircut Kiefer has in season 1.

Also all the women in it are absolutely tiny. Wonder when American TV let go of that blanket size zero only casting policy.

Don't recall seeing Tony in it, wonder is he a later addition?

Oh, he's in it. I remember one of his first lines to Nina being something alike "you can tell me what to do in work, but when we're at home, we're the same" - a bizarre line to tell the audience they were in a relationship.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2021, 06:12:38 PM »
Jack Bauer casually asking Big Alan York/Kev Caroll where his wife was as BAY/KC fired around 6 bullets towards his unflinching face behind a bulletproof limo screen is a long forgotten highlight during this season one rewatch.

Halfway though and Jack showing admirable restraint with a murder count probably not even in double figures yet. Practically a day off.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #70 on: September 20, 2021, 07:06:50 PM »
Is it season 1 where he threatens the lad with a towel? Never forgotten how vividly disgusting that was.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #71 on: September 20, 2021, 07:16:13 PM »
 Very same. Was planning on pulling it out of his face just as his stomach got stuck into digesting it. Punched him so hard he had a heart attack and died instead. A real variety man.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2021, 07:43:46 PM »
Jack Bauer really is one of the greatest action heroes of all time. An absolute maniac who will stop at nothing to do whatever the fuck it is he has to do.*

This is a man who, while handcuffed to an overhead pipe, once used his muscular thighs to snap a villain's neck. Has James Bond ever done anything as cool as that? No, he has not.

* The right-wing overtones of 24 never bothered me in the slightest, as it's such a stupid programme I could never take it seriously as a comment on anything. It was a deranged live-action cartoon in which a morally superior maverick superhero ran amok. Tremendous entertainment with no depth whatsoever.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #73 on: September 20, 2021, 07:47:08 PM »
The right-wing overtones of 24 never bothered me in the slightest, as it's such a stupid programme I could never take it seriously as a comment on anything. It was a deranged live-action cartoon in which a morally superior maverick superhero ran amok. Tremendous entertainment with no depth whatsoever

hehe it was a bit more than that. (i do enjoy some right-wing art too tbf)

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2021, 07:50:44 PM »
Very same. Was planning on pulling it out of his face just as his stomach got stuck into digesting it. Punched him so hard he had a heart attack and died instead.

And then cut off the bloke's thumb, IIRC.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2021, 07:58:31 PM »
hehe it was a bit more than that. (i do enjoy some right-wing art too tbf)

Well yeah, it was basically an American imperialist fantasy in which a patriotic government agent killed loads of evil foreigners and traitors. But as I say, it was all so ridiculous and OTT I couldn't help but love it - while obviously being vehemently opposed to its crackpot politics.

As mentioned previously in the thread, Kiefer Sutherland is apparently a groovy left-wing type. His intensely deadpan performance as Jack always struck me as parodic on some level, although I could be projecting.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2021, 08:06:08 PM »
And then cut off the bloke's thumb, IIRC.

That was some other jobber early doors. Jack turned up to help his mate escape with a key card. Up until that point, he hadn’t killed anyone and seemed a pretty level headed government grafter. Shoots him, surveys the scene and cuts his fucking thumb off.

Hard to believe that the following day (in my head, they all play out over the course of a disastrous fortnight, each day understandably ageing him a couple of years)) he’s cutting a paedo’s head off simply for leverage.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #77 on: September 20, 2021, 08:10:56 PM »
And then cut off the bloke's thumb, IIRC.

He once tortured someone with a standard lamp, didn't he? I always liked how we were supposed to accept that Jack had learned all these bizarre interrogation techniques during his special-op army years.

I mean, obviously those people are trained to commit horrific acts of torture, but Jack had an ingeniously violent solution for every single situation he ever found himself in. He was like Ray Mears gone rogue.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #78 on: September 20, 2021, 08:19:27 PM »
Hard to believe that the following day (in my head, they all play out over the course of a disastrous fortnight, each day understandably ageing him a couple of years)) he’s cutting a paedo’s head off simply for leverage.

One of my favourite 24 moments, that. Utterly absurd. Apart from the famous scene at the end of season 3 when Jack understandably breaks down in tears, he was never shown to be remotely bothered by the hideous acts he committed during the course of each 24 hour mission. Was he a psychopath? I very much doubt that the writers ever stopped to consider that possibility.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #79 on: September 20, 2021, 11:53:05 PM »
I always loved how completely straight it's played by everyone*.
Never a light-hearted joke or a hint of sarcasm.
Every moment is delivered with maximum intensity.


*OK, apart from George and Chloe

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2021, 12:08:42 AM »

I was certain this had Hugh Laurie as the main guy. Going to watch anyway

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2021, 12:36:52 PM »
Sure I read that there was a drinking game where you had to down a shot whenever Jack said goddammit and when KS heard about it, he added a load more goddammits in to the script.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2021, 01:32:14 PM »
Whatever happened to the baby Chloe was keeping in her desk drawer?

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2021, 04:27:12 PM »
Whatever happened to the baby Chloe was keeping in her desk drawer?

https://24.fandom.com/wiki/Angela

Fucking plenty!

In my own head canon, I like to think she met and married Carole from The Brittas Empire's son Ben and they are happily living in one of those poxy little central London "studio apartments" that's effectively just a cupboard with access to a shared kitchen and toilet.

Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2021, 04:36:06 PM »
wrt Ballard/chveik's back and forth on right wing art, yeah same, I suppose this is something I realised after the fact too (wasn't a terribly critical viewer when it came out). By series 2 when they had the exact same set-up I was out based on incredulity rather than politics.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2021, 08:53:55 PM »
This says a lot about me but when I try to remember what Chloe looked like I always get an image of Cassidy Klein.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2021, 09:25:14 PM »
I’m guessing there’ll have been a porn parody..!

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2021, 10:24:00 PM »
The first episode was boring as fuck with office politics and family problems until the woman blew up the airplane which was done in a ludicrous manner. It was as if they hadn't seen Phantom Menace.

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #88 on: September 22, 2021, 03:24:35 AM »
Fucking hell, I just remembered Chloe's husband, who was apparently produced in some kind of writer's room exquisite corpse session: "He's an English..." "...hacker, who's also a..." "...ladies' shoe salesman..." "...at Saks Fifth Ave. Perfect!"

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Re: 24 - was it any good?
« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2021, 05:01:56 AM »
Fucking hell, I just remembered Chloe's husband, who was apparently produced in some kind of writer's room exquisite corpse session: "He's an English..." "...hacker, who's also a..." "...ladies' shoe salesman..." "...at Saks Fifth Ave. Perfect!"

His name was Morris. I know this because my cat is named after him.

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