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AOC's "tax the rich" dress [split topic]

Started by JaDanketies, September 16, 2021, 12:18:16 PM

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JaDanketies

If she took all the money from Vogue and used it for soup kitchens and emergency housing would that redeem her? You could claim that pragmatically promoting a billionaire business is worthwhile if you use the cash to advance good causes.

I'd happily promote a billionaire for my going rate, and would spend the money on me and my family, and all anyone would say was it was a good contract

Video Game Fan 2000

You shouldn't be doing that stuff if you hold public office even if your intentions are good. I mean, basically everyone does it and at least its not Lockheed Martin but its still a really bad thing to do in the context of making a supposedly socialist statement.

The going rate of a private citizen versus an elected official is always going to be different.

biniput

Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on September 19, 2021, 08:58:48 PM
If I was a member of the DSA I'd probably be hoping for this to be the end of the AOC phenom because it shows a fatal lack of judgement and very dodgy willingness to do work for a big brand (Vogue) so long as its the right image - but she still seems to be doing pretty solid work in organising and fundraising, so she could still move to that keep doing good stuff without losing face.

What do you mean work for vogue? NY politicians allways get invited to the event as do many others who do not get photographed. Surely this is another purity test rather than a serious issue. She has to have some sort of social life you know. Also it can be useful to be around certain people to get a profile of how they think so talking to the kind who turn up to such events might not be all about partys etc.


Fry

I do t wanna harp on it because I do generally like AOC but I did let out a hearty laugh when the "Immigrant POC" who designed her dress turned out to be from Canada and was married to a billionaire. She does herself no favouea sometimes.

Video Game Fan 2000

Quote from: biniput on September 20, 2021, 04:14:41 AM
What do you mean work for vogue? NY politicians allways get invited to the event as do many others who do not get photographed. Surely this is another purity test rather than a serious issue. She has to have some sort of social life you know. Also it can be useful to be around certain people to get a profile of how they think so talking to the kind who turn up to such events might not be all about partys etc.

It seems likely the stunt was at least in part arranged by Vogue, who AOC has done stuff for before beyond just being interviewed, and the "immigrant POC" who designed the dress is involved with them doing social justice stuff, they had the first video uploaded and all that. The sheer scale of the fuck up suggests that it was out of her hands and no one on her team checked.

"some sort of social life" its not like she was off down the pub

GoblinAhFuckScary

let it be said that my grief was primarily that it was a shit dress. fucking all the met outfits were shit. i actually like fashion loads and i enjoy the theatre of it all despite it being an inherently rotten institution

wanted to start a thread to talk about the met actually but it just depressed me this year. not that it's great every year besides a few standouts. men at the met in particular, do better

do enjoy the recurring meme of this image and the fact that it's inexplicably assumed to be jason derulo


Video Game Fan 2000


GoblinAhFuckScary


Sebastian Cobb

This does not seem good.

QuoteOcasio-Cortez, who changed her vote from no to present on Iron Dome at the last minute appears visibly upset. Appears to be crying on the House floor, in a hug with Rep. Jayapal

Comments are like peering into a drain though.
https://twitter.com/marcrod97/status/1441103652941271057

GoblinAhFuckScary


JaDanketies

That is fucking nuts that 420 (blaze it) voted to spend 1bn on Israel defence and   9 voted no. What's even the point of discussing Israel or advocating for the Palestinian cause? We've already lost

chveik

starting to confirm the theory that she's a cia op

Sebastian Cobb

Is there a sibling of hanlon's razor that goes "never attribute to conspiracy that which is adequately explained by careerism"?

chveik

yeah i know, just messing around, but there are people that seem to believe that

Video Game Fan 2000


Dr Rock


mothman

Quote from: Dr Rock on September 24, 2021, 05:50:53 AM
I AM PRO THE DRESS.

But is it blue and white or black and gold?[nb]Bet someone's already done this joke.[/nb]

idunnosomename

Give us a billion dollars or you're racist

chveik

jezebel claiming she pulled this trick cause she wants to run for senator of NY

Retinend

Under the circumstances, voting "present" is a vote against in all but name.

chveik

why not vote directly against then, it's silly

GoblinAhFuckScary

Quote from: chveik on September 24, 2021, 02:47:52 PM
why not vote directly against then, it's silly

mm. what's the deal with changing from no to a de facto no in the last minute anyway

Video Game Fan 2000

Quote from: chveik on September 24, 2021, 02:19:52 PM
jezebel claiming she pulled this trick cause she wants to run for senator of NY

I hope her career is dead. She's made herself toxic just through flaunting how bulletproof her popularity is. None of it had to happen. DNC speedrun.

Quote from: chveik on September 24, 2021, 02:47:52 PM
why not vote directly against then, it's silly

Yes. Especially when the group she's identified with all voted that way in solidarity! I hope she sobs when she loses her senate run too.

pigamus

What's with the crying? Talk about setting feminism back twenty years.

biniput

Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on September 24, 2021, 03:19:24 PM
I hope her career is dead. She's made herself toxic just through flaunting how bulletproof her popularity is. None of it had to happen. DNC speedrun.

Yes. Especially when the group she's identified with all voted that way in solidarity! I hope she sobs when she loses her senate run too.

A bit puritanical aren't we?.  There are many others I would like to see have no career and AOC is not one of them.

Video Game Fan 2000

Quote from: biniput on September 24, 2021, 04:51:36 PM
A bit puritanical aren't we?.  There are many others I would like to see have no career and AOC is not one of them.

What part of condemning some for failing to join her comrades in voting NO against an apartheid state suggests puritanism to you? Whats a billion dollars for missiles here and there.

Opposing funding the Israeli military isn't some niche issue. Ilhan Omar is being smeared as an antisemite and is receiving death threats. AOC not voting as a bloc on this is issue is absolutely rotten.


bgmnts

Quote from: pigamus on September 24, 2021, 03:27:44 PM
What's with the crying? Talk about setting feminism back twenty years.

Crying helps relieve emotional distress and is gender neutral as far as I know.

wooders1978

Quote from: bgmnts on September 25, 2021, 09:47:21 AM
Crying helps relieve emotional distress and is gender neutral as far as I know.

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