Hadley Freeman fucks off [split topic]

[idunnosomename]

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https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/18/opinion-writing-has-changed-a-lot-since-i-started-out-its-time-for-something-new

lol CURSE YOU JOLLIBBIVIY KOOBRIIIIIINSSZZZphhhhhp

Breakfast Club.

[Ignatius_S]

https://www.theguardian.com/film/john-carpenter

works but
https://www.theguardian.com/film/alex-cox

doesn't so graun are clearly not fans of repo man and can get in the bin

Try this link: https://www.theguardian.com/profile/alexcox

[pigamus]

New answer to the thread title required

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/18/opinion-writing-has-changed-a-lot-since-i-started-out-its-time-for-something-new

lol CURSE YOU JOLLIBBIVIY KOOBRIIIIIINSSZZZphhhhhp

Breakfast Club.

"None of this is why l'm stopping the column." Oh thanks for that then!

[jobotic]

I can't believe such a great writer has been bullied out of her job by the all powerful Corbynites. She's been so brave.

Transphobic articles for The Spectator next for our hero?

[bgmnts]

What a pointless person.

[Pink Gregory]

I can't believe such a great writer has been bullied out of her job by the all powerful Corbynites. She's been so brave.

Transphobic articles for The Spectator next for our hero?

Can we make her fight Sarah Ditum

[Ferris]

I can't believe such a great writer has been bullied out of her job by the all powerful Corbynites. She's been so brave.

Transphobic articles for The Spectator next for our hero?

I loved the "Jeremy Corbyn is a bad person (though that has anything to do with what I'm saying) ok bye".

What a legacy. Presumably the graun has had another round of redundancies and the size of the cheque was too large to ignore this time.

[buttgammon]

Me me me, urgh Corbyn is a racist, Israel is brilliant, me me me me me. Same old same old from her.

I only skimmed the article because I think she's awful but I didn't see anything immediately transphobic, so she'll have to be more brazen with her bigotry if she wants to work with Andrew Neil on his new Murdoch TV channel.

[earl_sleek]

I don't wanna click on that and give them another page view, can someone tell me who it is please (or if I'm correct in assuming it's Hadley Freeman)?

[buttgammon]

I don't wanna click on that and give them another page view, can someone tell me who it is please (or if I'm correct in assuming it's Hadley Freeman)?

Yeah, it's her. For what's presumably meant to be a parting shot, it's pretty feeble.

[Egyptian Feast]

LOL

Hadley Freeman had to stop doing her column because it's nearly 20 years old so woody allen isn't interested in it any more

[dissolute ocelot]

Hadley Freeman being nostalgic because newspaper columnists are no longer a big happy community who would all go out for a drink together after writing their lying hate-pieces. Good times.

I don't really believe she feels out of step at the Oxbridge-educated, public-school, centrist, Blairite Guardian. But writing a regular newspaper opinion column is just the vilest occupation which nobody with any self-awareness or intellectual curiosity could do. At least they still have Simon Jenkins, a man who has never put two thoughts together in his life, and of course Chiles.

[GoblinAhFuckScary]

I don't wanna click on that and give them another page view, can someone tell me who it is please (or if I'm correct in assuming it's Hadley Freeman)?

For someone who never actually wanted to be a columnist, I have written a heck of a lot of columns. I've been a Weekend columnist for five and a half years, and before that I was in the Guardian's opinion section, and before that I was a columnist in the daily features section, G2, meaning I've foisted about 10 million of my random opinions on all of you. It has been a joy (for me, anyway), but now it is time to stop. I'll still be doing interviews for the Guardian, but there is a tide in the affairs of man (all columnists love a random classic quote), and even an overly opinionated, 80s movies-obsessed, Jewish New Yorker (I'm WAWKIN' here, I'm WAWKIN'!) knows when to step away from the table. So I'll be banging on about fewer of my opinions, and writing more about those of others.

Like I said, I never wanted to be a columnist, but no one did when I started back in 2000. Sure, there were columnists around then, some of whom still write for the Guardian (Jonathan Freedland, Martin Kettle, Polly Toynbee), some of whom sadly don't (Martin Wollacott, Hugo Young). But column-writing was seen as something of a private members' club: elitist, dusty and distant. Back then, young journalists wanted the fun, scrappy jobs: investigative reporter, music reviewer, features writer. But ever since the rise of blogging culture in the 2000s, when anyone with an Apple PowerBook (RIP) could knock out a column, pretty much every aspiring journalist I've met has told me they want to be a columnist. Stating your opinion online has become the definitive way of saying who you are, so of course more people want columns. Yet, here's a funny thing: I can't recall a single day – and there were thousands – that I spent sitting at my desk writing a column. I can, however, recall going to the Oscars to cover them, or the weekend I spent with Judy Blume to interview her. Columns pump up the ego, but going out and finding stories is a lot more fun.

Something else has changed about column-writing in recent years. I wrote last week about being in New York on 9/11 and the killing of my friend. Two days after the terrorist attacks, a column written by then Guardian columnist Seumas Milne ran with this headline: "They can't see why they are hated." America, Milne argued, had brought this on itself. It was jarring to read it at the time, but it never occurred to me to complain, and maybe some will see that as feeble or – gasp, horror – appallingly centrist of me. But I saw that article as Milne's opinion, so why shouldn't he write it? And Milne, I think, felt similarly of the things I wrote. Given that he went on to become Jeremy Corbyn's spokesperson, and I'm an American Zionist who happily voted for Tony Blair, it's safe to say we disagree about quite a lot. But it was Milne who brought me on to the Guardian's comment section and he became one of the most encouraging editors I ever had. Ideological disagreements were just a normal part of life on the paper back then, and mixing only with those you agree with would have been seen by many journalists as embarrassingly partisan and unprofessional.

I don't know if that's quite so true any more. I've tackled some highly controversial subjects in my time, from Israel to – most controversially – the ugliness of combat trousers, so I'm no stranger to heated debate. But where once people could argue with one another and then go out for a drink, now it feels as if people just argue. A difference of opinion becomes a seismic breaking of alliances, and certain subjects are verboten in social situations. I could blame Brexit for this – a difference of opinion that pretty much broke this country – but I noticed it before. In May 2016, I watched a documentary about Corbyn, made by Vice, and in one scene Corbyn gets very angry about a column Freedland wrote in the Guardian, about antisemitism in the Labour party. He makes a call – to Milne, as chance would have it – and the two of them discuss Freedland: "He's not a good guy at all. He seems kind of obsessed with me," Corbyn rages.

I've thought about that moment a lot, because it felt like a turning point, a shift from when readers merely disagreed with a column to disagreeing and therefore assuming the columnist is A Bad Person. All newspaper columnists will have experienced degrees of that shift over the past five years, and this is not – as some have said – about holding them accountable for their opinions; it's a refusal to accept that not everyone sees things the same way. Yet this, surely, is what columns are all about: revealing the variety of perspectives. So it's ironic that at a time when column-writing has never been more desirable to so many, there is such an expectation of conformity of opinion.

None of this is why I'm stopping the column. It's just time. Thank you all so much for letting me speak at you every Saturday morning, and thank you to those who spoke back, whether by email or stopping me in the street to tell me that combat trousers are great, actually (no, they're not). Adhering to columnist tradition, I shall end with a classic quote: adieu, adieu, to yuh and yuh and yuh.

[sevendaughters]

Hadley to Talk TV confirmed then.

[jobotic]

Or Spiked, or the Spectator, or the Telegraph

Plenty of opportunities for a well connected arsehole

[chveik]

'i've wasted my life and i'm a thick cunt and crobbins is a big meanie'

[GoblinAhFuckScary]

[Quote]

Yet this, surely, is what columns are all about: revealing the variety of perspectives

The variety of perspectives on how & why Corbyn was awful.

[Lisa Jesusandmarychain]

She didn't even mention The Breakfast Club!
So Long Hadley, and thanks for all the " Corbyn is a cunt" mentions.

[TrenterPercenter]

Deranged the way she makes out Freedland just wrote one column about Corbyn and this idea she watched a documentary and tsaw someone kicking back against a columnist which was the end turning point; like no other columnist had ever been called out before?!  Absolutely nuts.

[Ferris]

This makes me guffaw every time. More of this please.

[Indomitable Spirit]

I hear she has a lot of exciting new projects already in the pipeline!

[jobotic]

https://mobile.twitter.com/bareleft/status/1439163889267134464

[Mr Trumpet]

But column-writing was seen as something of a private members' club: elitist, dusty and distant.

But then we came along eh?!

[Kankurette]

What happened? Did a mean trans steal her dinner money?

[Barry Admin]

"None of this is why l'm stopping the column." Oh thanks for that then!

Lmao, yep. I just read the whole thing too, what a waste of fucking time that was.

[idunnosomename]

shes such a TERF lol

https://twitter.com/hadleyfreeman/status/1359096733637181442

[Sebastian Cobb]

I guess blurring your opinion into identity is only bad when the proles do it.

[Pink Gregory]

I hate Baddiel so much.  He just has bought into his own 'public intellectual' shtick so much that he's just a continual fountain of junk thought that he publishes for thousands of pounds.

cunt.

[Fambo Number Mive]

Hadley Freeman being nostalgic because newspaper columnists are no longer a big happy community who would all go out for a drink together after writing their lying hate-pieces. Good times.

I don't really believe she feels out of step at the Oxbridge-educated, public-school, centrist, Blairite Guardian. But writing a regular newspaper opinion column is just the vilest occupation which nobody with any self-awareness or intellectual curiosity could do. At least they still have Simon Jenkins, a man who has never put two thoughts together in his life, and of course Chiles.

Mark Steel writes (or wrote) a column for the Independent and he seems to be pretty self-aware.

Trying to think of another newspaper columnist who isn't shit. To be fair I haven't read a print newspaper for years.