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Re: RTD back for Doctor Who
« Reply #330 on: October 11, 2021, 08:04:40 PM »
wait what. is this something worth worrying over?

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« Reply #331 on: October 11, 2021, 08:33:30 PM »
Higher budgets maybe?

Doubt it. The amount that they're being paid to make it will presumably be agreed already, so they won't want to go over that suddenly.

wait what. is this something worth worrying over?

I don't think so, I'd assume the BBC will have a veto over stuff like casting the Doctor.

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Re: RTD back for Doctor Who
« Reply #332 on: October 11, 2021, 08:34:23 PM »
It begs the question:  might RTD showrunning a fresh era of Doctor Who have been one of the conditions for the contract with Sony?

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« Reply #333 on: October 11, 2021, 08:59:24 PM »
I don't think so, I'd assume the BBC will have a veto over stuff like casting the Doctor.

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« Reply #334 on: October 11, 2021, 09:53:53 PM »
It begs the question:  might RTD showrunning a fresh era of Doctor Who have been one of the conditions for the contract with Sony?

It's certainly possible. Sony don't give a shit about quality control, it's all about the investment; they'd happily carry on with Chinballs if his iteration of Doctor Who had been successful. But they'll have looked at the numbers, seen that it was far more popular under RTD (and Moffat, who 'broke' the show in America), and stipulated that one of those guys should be in charge again.

Which is pure conjecture, I know, but it doesn't sound all that unlikely.

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« Reply #335 on: October 11, 2021, 10:17:59 PM »
Sony about to take over Bad Wolf, apparently.
Saw something saying HBO were taking over as well.

wait what. is this something worth worrying over?

Yeah, first I've heard of this.  Any chance of some links?

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« Reply #336 on: October 11, 2021, 10:21:16 PM »
Why would Sony have any say over which company produces Dr Who? Perhaps it was more like Sony promised investment if RTD could convince the BBC to give him the show (or rather Bad Wolf which I assume he has an interest in). Maybe the BBC knew when they decided. They'd still have to fund it unless they are prepared to give up international rights or something.

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« Reply #337 on: October 11, 2021, 10:26:06 PM »
Bad Wolf does more than just the new new Doctor Who so the deal might not have anything directly to do with it. Just Sony buying a successful production company.

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« Reply #338 on: October 11, 2021, 10:34:22 PM »
The whole series since 2005 has been up on HBO Max for a year or so, I guess we take it as read a deal has been on the cards for some time. Article from a month ago seems to support the idea: https://screenrant.com/doctor-who-disney-plus-new-direction-bbc-coproductions/

Also I'm sure I remember reading a quote from an interview where RTD was predicting that the future of Dr Who would be on streaming platforms, maybe he's known for longer than we thought that he'd be coming back to it.

Oh wait, here's the quote, it was only from back in January. So feasibly he could already been approached at that point

https://twitter.com/prkirkley/status/1352578909259390976

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Re: RTD back for Doctor Who
« Reply #340 on: October 11, 2021, 11:00:22 PM »
Why would Sony have any say over which company produces Dr Who? Perhaps it was more like Sony promised investment if RTD could convince the BBC to give him the show (or rather Bad Wolf which I assume he has an interest in). Maybe the BBC knew when they decided. They'd still have to fund it unless they are prepared to give up international rights or something.

Yeah. Despite what I said earlier (I'm just typing out loud), this arrangement probably has nothing to do with Doctor Who as such. Bad Wolf already have ties with American television, they have a proven track record (e.g. the TV adaptation of His Dark Materials), so it's presumably just another case of Sony investing in a company that could make them some money. And if it doesn't work out, well they won't lose any sleep over it.

I really can't imagine RTD and Gardner agreeing to this if it meant losing creative control of their projects. RTD doesn't have a financial stake in Bad Wolf, but he's not going to risk his reputation on reviving Doctor Who (again) if a soulless corporation is calling the shots. Gardner doesn't have to put up with that hassle either, she's an excellent producer.

RTD doesn't really need to do this, he's one of UK television's most successful and respected dramatists, so I think it's fair to assume that he's doing it because he wants to Make Doctor Who Great Again (MDWGA baseball caps will soon be on sale from BBC Worldwide; pre-order now!).

Anyway, here's some more info about Bad Wolf: https://bad-wolf.com/about/

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« Reply #341 on: October 11, 2021, 11:01:30 PM »
Bad Wolf does more than just the new new Doctor Who so the deal might not have anything directly to do with it. Just Sony buying a successful production company.

Alberon, there, nailing my point in a far less prolix way.

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« Reply #342 on: October 11, 2021, 11:16:08 PM »
Relax everyone - it's going to be both mint and skill!

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« Reply #343 on: October 11, 2021, 11:24:26 PM »
Those Shakin' Doctor Who days will soon be behind us.

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« Reply #344 on: October 11, 2021, 11:40:56 PM »
The RT story also says that HBO will retain its minority share in Bad Wolf, since people were asking upthread.

Also, Bad Wolf is (AFAIK) just being brought on to co-produce Who, presumably as a condition of RTD coming onboard (although maybe things will continue if all works well) and rights to the show will remain with the BBC. I don't see how the Sony deal would upend that, especially as the contracts will already have been signed.

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« Reply #345 on: October 12, 2021, 02:44:44 AM »
https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-producer-bad-wolf-sony-newsupdate/

Ah, thanks for that, all is clear now!

My confusion wasn't helped by the fact that my brain had forgotten about Bad Wolf being the name of the production company who were going to be doing RTD-2-Who, so seeing the words "Sony about to take over Bad Wolf, apparently." made me think it was a whimsical way of saying that Sony were taking over Who entirely.

Sorry, been a long and busy day.  I get it now.

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« Reply #346 on: October 14, 2021, 12:34:08 AM »
In case you didn't see it in the banana thread, RTD slammed the anti-trans LGB Alliance while picking up an Attitude Inspiration Award for Its a Sin.

Wonder if he'll address this in some form in his upcoming Who series?

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« Reply #347 on: October 14, 2021, 02:28:35 AM »
I bloody love that man. RTD's DW tenure wasn't perfect, of course it wasn't, but it was driven by a talented person who's passionate, witty, angry, decent and intelligent. An imaginative writer with a solid moral compass. The polar opposite of Chibnall.

Anyway, everything RTD said there is far more important than having another pop at Chibnall on an internet forum. But really, thank fuck he's in charge of Doctor Who again.

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« Reply #348 on: October 14, 2021, 06:37:07 AM »
Well, imagine if he had said all those things, and then also added, with a whisper and his index finger to his lips, “Psst!  Chris Chibnall is shite!!” and then skipped off on elfish tip-toes like he had stolen Santa Claus in a bag.


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« Reply #349 on: October 15, 2021, 09:55:16 AM »
In case you didn't see it in the banana thread, RTD slammed the anti-trans LGB Alliance while picking up an Attitude Inspiration Award for Its a Sin.

Wonder if he'll address this in some form in his upcoming Who series?

Almost missed this, but at the end of that video he announces who the next Doctor will be.

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« Reply #350 on: October 15, 2021, 01:03:03 PM »
When did these 2 become MILFy cougars?

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« Reply #351 on: October 15, 2021, 03:02:37 PM »
RTD has got better with age. Banana, A Very English Scandal, Years and Years[1] and It's a Sin - what a run of hits for someone after leaving one of the biggest showrunning gigs in British TV.

I think he was appointed to save the show from neglect and because no one else is as qualified. Handing it over to some bright new thing would be exceedingly risky. There's no safe pair of hands among the current writers, and Chibbers has proven the limitations of going "safe".

He has grown in confidence since his time as showrunner too. I think, like last time, he will introduce some barmy ideas and piss off old-fashioned fans all the time. Crucially though, it will not be deathly dull and irrelevant as it is now.

He can make us look forward to a new series of Doctor Who again! Yesssssssss
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« Reply #352 on: October 15, 2021, 03:15:39 PM »
I still think this run won't be as long as his first. He'll be in the showrunner slot for a couple of series, just to stop the ship from sinking and then move back to a more hands-off overview of the series as a new producer takes over.

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« Reply #353 on: October 15, 2021, 03:28:16 PM »
Wouldn't be surprised if he co-showruns a series with whoever takes over to ease them in.

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« Reply #354 on: October 15, 2021, 05:03:27 PM »
I still think this run won't be as long as his first. He'll be in the showrunner slot for a couple of series, just to stop the ship from sinking and then move back to a more hands-off overview of the series as a new producer takes over.

I’m expecting that RTD may take quite a permanent hands-off overseeing position from this point onwards, after getting it back on track with a couple of his own series.  His position within Bad Wolf production company may cement him as the custodian of Doctor Who somehow, to ensure it can never go too far off the rails.  He may be routinely called upon to rescue it hereafter.

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« Reply #355 on: October 15, 2021, 05:13:11 PM »
When did these 2 become MILFy cougars?

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« Reply #356 on: October 15, 2021, 06:07:54 PM »
Wouldn't be surprised if he co-showruns a series with whoever takes over to ease them in.

Or possibly, per Replies, stays on in some kind of Sidney Newman role, overseeing larger production issues while others come in as rotating head writers with their own takes on the material. That would be a more sustainable model, I think (assuming RTD rotated out whenever he got knackered), than having a one-man-band showrunner who has to do absolutely everything.

Davies would need to be comfortable stepping back and letting someone else follow their vision and aesthetic for the show, though, and I don't know if his workaholic nature will allow for that. Maybe if he can distract himself with other projects - perhaps that "Marvel Universe, but for Doctor Who" thing he was talking about, or just his own stuff a la It's a Sin.

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« Reply #357 on: October 16, 2021, 08:39:55 PM »
Was just thinking it would be good if the costume for the 14th Doctor was a stolen mechanic’s outfit and a white William Shatner mask

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« Reply #358 on: October 17, 2021, 03:21:42 AM »
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