Starmer's Labour: Ghouls and Tools on the Ship of Fools

[greenman]

I think they see it, its just that winning elections isnt their main consideration, suppressing the left is.

[king_tubby]

He's now having a go at Sturgeon.

[Mr_Simnock]

supressing their traditional voter base, so weird and mental but it really does look like that

I think they see it, its just that winning elections isnt their main consideration, suppressing the left is.

[idunnosomename]

whoop whoop

https://twitter.com/paulhutcheon/status/1451092388986998787

[pancreas]

Yet another chunk of voters out.

[Johnny Yesno]

Tragic Stepdad

[Fambo Number Mive]

I wonder how many Labour members there will be by the time Starmer resigns. If we then get another Starmer clone, by 2024 we'll probably be able to fit all the members of the Labour Party in an average-sized pub.

[idunnosomename]

and then they'll be thrown out by an angry landlord

[holyzombiejesus]

Labour winning here!

[GoblinAhFuckScary]

mentioned in the glinner thread that rosie duffield felt safe enough to go the lgba conference. fucking scumbag aghh

[jamiefairlie]

fucking scumbag aghh

The spirit of Mark E Smith lives on!

[Mr_Simnock]

Watching the third of the Blair Brown years tonight, the one thing that has come through in each of them is how they thought differently about how the Labour party should be seen and it's policies (easy to know what each one stood for) and then I think about this current lot and no one at all can put anything to the current Labour direction. This lot really must be the single most self destructive and useless lot we have ever had, despite how much I dislike about tony blair he is still in a different galaxy compared to keith in ability, but then again even Frank Dobson was. Also some of the other cabinet members were good, what's the nearest we have now to Mo Mowlam or Robin Cook. The one thing I didn't expect from watching this was to see just how far Labour has fallen, quite astonishing.

[idunnosomename]

Jess Phillips and Wes Streeting. Yum yum!!

[Bernice]

It's exciting! And they're cunts! WHOOP!

[greenman]

supressing their traditional voter base, so weird and mental but it really does look like that

Working for the baddies pays better.

[pancreas]

It's exciting! And they're cunts! WHOOP!

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[Johnny Yesno]

Conservative MPs have denounced fire and rehire but instead of backing @BarryGardiner 's Bill today to #StopFireandRehire, they voted it down.

Shameful.



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https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1451539682924371978

[king_tubby]

https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1451605004289249281

Remember the rule change passed at conference on selections? It says for by-elections, the shortlisting panel should be mostly local members. The party put forward a paper to NEC officers this week arguing that it can be ignored.

https://labourlist.org/2021/10/selection-process-unclear-as-labour-opens-old-bexley-and-sidcup-applications/

[Buelligan]

[img]Frog and Scorpion gif[/img}

[king_tubby]

lol. lmao.

[Johnny Yesno]

Neil Coyling out another opinion: https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1451467926956134434



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gambling-review-must-not-punish-casual-punters-skgfx8zg6

[king_tubby]

Coyle was attacking Burnham the other day for saying that public transport outwith London should be improved somewhat.

[idunnosomename]

And his counter was absolute nonsense. The idea that such a belligerent shill for big business should be in a left-wing party, just because he has no problem with gay people marrying and calls Brexiteers cockwombles just shows how absurd our politics is

[holyzombiejesus]

I'm starting to think a new party should be formed, not to 'win' but to stand against scum like this so he loses his seat. People would go on about purity and letting the tories in, but they're staying in whatever and at least we'd get tossers like Coyle and Duffield out of the party.

[Buelligan]

I agree.  If Corbyn was still leading us, we'd still have this issue - there is no clean and pretty way to make it clear that people like them have nothing in common with us.  They're as far from us as many tories.  So, whether there's a new party or no, we're still left with this thing to resolve (and until it is, there'll be no peace and no socialist government).

My heart tells me it's more honest, more open, to face these people at an election - stand with a manifesto, draw a clean line between us and those who shill for greed, war and sell us out every chance they get.

Starmer and his masters have made it plain that, unlike Crobbo, they're not prepared to include everyone, only cunts like Coyle and Duffield.  So there is no living with them.  That is not an option now.

[Mr_Simnock]

I think the best thing you can do if you have left the party and think it's beyond saving is next election (by-election or full-election) is canvas for the candidate from another party against them with the best chance of unseating them. Would be great to see all those folk who put a lot of energy into helping Corbyn and who have left go out and target specific seats to oust certain MP's next time round. It doesn't matter who else gets in at least they could be out on their arse.

[Buelligan]

That's a bit negative, IMO.  I'd like to see people issuing a socialist manifesto, speaking at hustings, putting forward strong positive ideas, that the Labour Party will need to oppose.  I'd like to see them forced to stand up for what they believe in, publicly.  No good doing a Keith and lying because there'd be another candidate, right there, with nothing but their deposit to lose, who'd pull that lie right out into the light. 

I don't want revenge, I want to clean house.

[Dr Rock]

This is no democracy. They tell us we live in a democratic country, but it's a lie.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2021/10/23/if-a-party-wont-do-what-you-want-why-would-you-vote-for-it/

[dissolute ocelot]

Neil Coyling out another opinion: https://twitter.com/flying_rodent/status/1451467926956134434



https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gambling-review-must-not-punish-casual-punters-skgfx8zg6

It's a very small proportion of gamblers who provide most of the industry's income. People betting on the Grand National are not providing the money. With one company, 2% of customers provided 83% of bets.

Of course, News UK which owns the Times has its own betting empire (naturally headquartered in a tax haven).