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Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« on: October 11, 2021, 10:36:36 PM »
Did a quick search, but couldn't see that there's ever been a thread about it here.
It's a Japanese Amazon gameshow where they stick a group of comedians in a room for a day and film it, there are no rules except that if you laugh you're out.  Which doesn't sound particularly original except that they do genuinely seem to mean there are no rules.
Every series has a different line up of different comedians, different styles of comedy, different generations, etc, but no matter what it always seems to end up like a live action adaptation of HS Art, with people resorting to desperate measures like doing weird stuff to each others arses or putting things in their foreskins.
I've never really 'got' Japanese comedy, but there are moments in this that are beyond belief, it's incredible.

The first few seasons are officially translated on Amazon Prime, but there are more series translated by fans, has anyone else watched it?

Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2021, 12:50:13 AM »
oh that's weird, i just finished watching joshimental, the all female version and then checked cab and saw this thread

i think i've watched most of documental including the later fansubbed series - i enjoy it a lot because there's a lot of silly nonsensical humour that makes you laugh but you don't know exactly why. i also like how it becomes more frantic and unhinged as the time begins to run out and they try to catch each other off guard. cookie/kukky is definitely a highlight and fujimon too

op, i'm curious if you've watched any gaki no tsukai, specifically the no-laughing batsu games? it's a similar premise of a group of comedians (including matsumoto) trying not to laugh but it goes on for 24 hours

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2021, 01:15:53 AM »
There's an Australian version of this (also on Amazon Prime) called LOL: Last One Laughing, which I highly recommend. Rebel Wilson hosts.

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Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2021, 03:46:56 PM »
oh that's weird, i just finished watching joshimental, the all female version and then checked cab and saw this thread

i think i've watched most of documental including the later fansubbed series - i enjoy it a lot because there's a lot of silly nonsensical humour that makes you laugh but you don't know exactly why. i also like how it becomes more frantic and unhinged as the time begins to run out and they try to catch each other off guard. cookie/kukky is definitely a highlight and fujimon too

op, i'm curious if you've watched any gaki no tsukai, specifically the no-laughing batsu games? it's a similar premise of a group of comedians (including matsumoto) trying not to laugh but it goes on for 24 hours
Yeah, the batsu games are really great too, especially the early ones, but it seems like there's a lot more references in them that don't quite translate compared to documental. Something like whoever farts first loses arm wrestling will never not be funny though.

There's an Australian version of this (also on Amazon Prime) called LOL: Last One Laughing, which I highly recommend. Rebel Wilson hosts.
Interesting, does it get as crazy?

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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2021, 04:27:21 PM »
I've not seen Documental yet but it did get quite odd. Some great comedians.

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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 09:07:19 PM »
I love Documental.

One of my faouvorite moments was when Kotoge once eliminated Fujimoto by doing nothing. Fujimoto knew something was coming, and was preparing himself for anything, but then when Kotoge did nothing it cracked him. It is almost like watching a sport sometimes.

LOL Australia had a couple of very funny moments for me, but it wasn't on the same level as Documental, there wasn't the same commitment.

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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2021, 09:00:41 AM »
Over the last year or two Documental has probably replaced Digitizer and Delocated as my favourite comedy thing (all the Ds)

The Joyman reveals in s2, Jimmy being useless, Fujimoto's "straight" face, Kurosawa's song and Cookie's accompaniment in s4. In fact every second Cookie is on screen.

If anyone has knowledge of where to find s5 onwards plus Joshi etc I'd be eternally grateful.

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 09:07:18 AM »
Enjoyed the first episode, mostly, particularly your man making up rules as he went.

Bit bummed out that there aren't any women in it though. Do any appear in future series?

Looks like a nailed on format for Dave with Lou Sanders and Ed Gamble.

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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2021, 10:38:09 AM »
If anyone has knowledge of where to find s5 onwards plus Joshi etc I'd be eternally grateful.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GakiNoTsukai/wiki/docu/

series 7 is still in the process of being translated

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Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2021, 12:07:52 PM »
Bit bummed out that there aren't any women in it though. Do any appear in future series?
Not really, season 4 is the first time there's a woman contestant (a woman contestant, as in, just the one), and season 6 is roughly half and half, but aside from that no, not at all. There's an all women special called joshimental, which is also good, but it's very short (less than an hour, iirc).
It's a shame really, because season 6 is really interesting because of the mixture, the men seem uncomfortable, like they don't know how far to go around the women but the women don't have that problem at all.

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 12:40:49 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/GakiNoTsukai/wiki/docu/

series 7 is still in the process of being translated

Ah fantastic! Thank you!!

Not really, season 4 is the first time there's a woman contestant (a woman contestant, as in, just the one), and season 6 is roughly half and half, but aside from that no, not at all. There's an all women special called joshimental, which is also good, but it's very short (less than an hour, iirc).
It's a shame really, because season 6 is really interesting because of the mixture, the men seem uncomfortable, like they don't know how far to go around the women but the women don't have that problem at all.

Miyuki was in s2 as well as Kurosawa in s4. I don't remember Miyuki faring too well, just pretending to cry a lot.

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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 03:44:31 PM »
Not really, season 4 is the first time there's a woman contestant (a woman contestant, as in, just the one), and season 6 is roughly half and half, but aside from that no, not at all. There's an all women special called joshimental, which is also good, but it's very short (less than an hour, iirc).
It's a shame really, because season 6 is really interesting because of the mixture, the men seem uncomfortable, like they don't know how far to go around the women but the women don't have that problem at all.

Good intel, cheers. Based on my limited understanding of Japanese culture the above doesn't hugely surprise me but I'm glad it's not a lad's shop all the way through.

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Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 09:43:39 PM »
Episode two and I am delighted to see how quickly they've literally had to dive into arses to make each other laugh.

Fascinated to see how this goes in the second series, when presumably the contestants have some sort of gameplan, because these lads are acting like they're on the first series of Big  Brother.

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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2021, 10:43:45 PM »
There's an Australian version of this (also on Amazon Prime) called LOL: Last One Laughing, which I highly recommend. Rebel Wilson hosts.
If you can get past Sam Simmons, that is. However it does have Frank Woodley in it too. Just fast forward through all the Rebel bits

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Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2021, 12:14:43 AM »
Is this "available" anywhere?

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« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2021, 12:23:42 AM »
Is this "available" anywhere?

Yes. I searched for "joshimental sub" on google and the top result got me to a folder full of the 7 seasons and the first Joshimental within a couple of clicks.

Interesting that the first Joshimental was mainly, if not all, non-comedians. I only knew Kyoko Hamaguchi from occasional mentions in Wrestling Observer, First Summer Uika from the bands BiS and BILLIE IDLE® and Tomoko Kaneda from playing squeaky voiced anime characters.

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Re: Documental (Japanese Comedy Show)
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 02:40:26 AM »

Looks like a nailed on format for Dave with Lou Sanders and Ed Gamble.

Yeah, I’m surprised Dave hasn’t bought this format yet. It would make a better Taskmaster replacement than that David Mitchell camping show, and it’s something different to another panel show. Presumably cheap to make too.

Call it ‘No Laughing Matter’, job done.

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« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 07:29:25 PM »
Just got going on episode 2 and Miyuki Oshima is involved, which quells my concerns about this being a sausage fest.

Howling at episode one. Game has been raised!

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« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 08:09:52 PM »
If you can get past Sam Simmons, that is. However it does have Frank Woodley in it too. Just fast forward through all the Rebel bits

Yeah, Sam's awful and - with all his inappropriate behaviour - the sort of person you wouldn't be surprised to hear things about.

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