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But the clearing stones thing is quite humorous in its unprovoked spitefulness, and it's not simply something we all thought of when we were five repeatedly stated as if he is genuinely proud of it and thinks he's the only one.


I get what you mean though.  I just don't think "dance settee" has that much self-awareness behind it.

[BeardFaceMan]

It's the same as him still saying 'skellington', he just found something he thinks is funny and sticks with it, there's no self-awareness or grand scheme, just childish amusement at himself.

[Pranet]

I never saw the LOFTDS show. I wonder the title actually plays any part of it or was it just a case of in February when he had to come up with a show title for Edinburgh he remembered the phrase and thought "that'll do".

[EggsLikeABird]

It's the same as him still saying 'skellington', he just found something he thinks is funny and sticks with it, there's no self-awareness or grand scheme, just childish amusement at himself.

Its actually quite amazing if you go back and watch the Lee and Herring stuff how much Herring has just kept in. Like a modern day Ken Dodd. He doesnt throw anything out of his act.

[king_tubby]

Lee is still doing call backs to this era too.

[Stone Cold Steve Austin]

I never saw the LOFTDS show. I wonder the title actually plays any part of it or was it just a case of in February when he had to come up with a show title for Edinburgh he remembered the phrase and thought "that'll do".

I did see it, but don't remember it all that well. IIRC he did the routine near the beginning and at the end danced around a settee while a man sang the song

[Pranet]

That rings a faint bell from reading about it.

[Ron Superior]

I was bored while self isolating cos of COVID and worked through the other apps on my Now TV stick. On the Roku channel there are a load of standup sets from NextUp, completely free to view. Lord Of The Dance Setee is on there if anyone wants to go back and check it out. I got about 20 minutes in and gave up. But within that 20 minutes he'd got a dig at Stew in there. Which got me thinking, plenty of people in this thread complained about Stew having a few digs at Rich, but Rich has had I'd say way more at Stew over the years, in his podcast, in his sets, on Twitter. Why do you think Rich gets more of a pass with regards to that? Rich's digs have been as cutting and personal, if not moreso, is it because Rich can be more likely perceived as the underdog in the situation?

Anyway, Anna Mann's Sketch Show For Depressives is on the Roku channel if you want to check it out and it's great.

[EggsLikeABird]

Why do you think Rich gets more of a pass with regards to that? Rich's digs have been as cutting and personal, if not moreso, is it because Rich can be more likely perceived as the underdog in the situation?

Me personally, I find Stew's digs more noteworthy because he's more noteworthy. I dont follow Herring as much as I do Stewart Lee, so that's probably why. And also because the digs are so rare and cutting, it seems a bit like punching down due to Herring being essentially the least successful member of that original On The Hour crew. Or even the Time Gentleman Please crew, which is way sadder.

[Magnum Valentino]

Me personally, I find Stew's digs more noteworthy because he's more noteworthy. I dont follow Herring as much as I do Stewart Lee, so that's probably why. And also because the digs are so rare and cutting, it seems a bit like punching down due to Herring being essentially the least successful member of that original On The Hour crew. Or even the Time Gentleman Please crew, which is way sadder.

He awkwardly points out that he's the only one from Fist of Fun or This Morning who didn't get a small role in Baynham's Christmas film during one of the commentary tracks, after Stew mentions that he did but hasn't got round to seeing it.

[Stoneage Dinosaurs]

He awkwardly points out that he's the only one from Fist of Fun or This Morning who didn't get a small role in Baynham's Christmas film during one of the commentary tracks, after Stew mentions that he did but hasn't got round to seeing it.

Is that true? I can't see Paul Putner's name on the credits.

[Magnum Valentino]

I don't know.

[EggsLikeABird]

Would Herring be in the Stew clique, of Eldon, Putner and the like, who he always uses? Like that TMWRNJ crew turn up in everything with him. Even the Nightingale's documentary Stew did, there's Putner and Eldon on it.

[Wayman C. McCreery]

Which got me thinking, plenty of people in this thread complained about Stew having a few digs at Rich, but Rich has had I'd say way more at Stew over the years, in his podcast, in his sets, on Twitter. Why do you think Rich gets more of a pass with regards to that? Rich's digs have been as cutting and personal, if not moreso, is it because Rich can be more likely perceived as the underdog in the situation

I think it's as simple as Rich having a dig at Stew is punching up rather than down.

There's a great John Robins bit about Stew v other comedians and Stew being a "millionaire underdog", but it seems to have vanished from the internet.

[EggsLikeABird]

Is Stew a millionaire? He always talks about wanting to move to the country but cant afford it.

[Cuellar]

I'd be amazed if flogging his house in Stoke Newington or wherever he lives wouldn't net him enough to buy a palace in Shropshire or some shit

[Ferris]

Is Stew a millionaire? He always talks about wanting to move to the country but cant afford it.

I believe he has moved out of London already ("visible otters" routine was 5 years ago?).

I'd guess they're both millionaires or close to it, but I don't think that detracts from what they do or that they haven't deserved everything they have.

[EggsLikeABird]

Since we're here speculating on Stew, Paul Chowdhry had him on his podcast and mentioned a TV presenter saw Stew at a gig and said "hi mate, hows it going" and when he walked away Stew said to Chowdhry "that fucking cunt slags me off on twitter all the time."

So who is the "fucking cunt" he speaks of?

[Cold Meat Platter]

TV presenter who's a fucking cunt doesn't exactly narrow it down.

[Magnum Valentino]

I believe he has moved out of London already ("visible otters" routine was 5 years ago?).

I'd guess they're both millionaires or close to it, but I don't think that detracts from what they do or that they haven't deserved everything they have.

Going by things Stew and Bridget have said on recent podcasts I think they still live in Stoke Newington. Stew has mentioned going for walks around it during lockdown.

[Pink Gregory]

Stew said on the Alexei Sayle podcast that they were thinking of moving to the Wye Valley

[Gurke and Hare]

I don't know about a millionaire (except possibly on paper with London property values) but I think Rich said that Time Gentlemen Please put him on a very stable financial base.

[Cuellar]

I don't know about a millionaire (except possibly on paper with London property values) but I think Rich said that Time Gentlemen Please put him on a very stable financial base.

Having zero knowledge of how much money one makes from telly stuff I'm always quite surprised by this. Was it very successful? I always got the impression it wasn't really.

[Consignia]

Having zero knowledge of how much money one makes from telly stuff I'm always quite surprised by this. Was it very successful? I always got the impression it wasn't really.

Sky probably threw a lot of money at it, as they were at the time desperate to get anything for people to watch Sky One, and wooing BBC types away with money. To that end it's probably irrelevant how successful it was for Herring, he should have got loads just for the commission. And blimey, there's nearly 40 episodes of it.

[Ferris]

I don't know about a millionaire (except possibly on paper with London property values) but I think Rich said that Time Gentlemen Please put him on a very stable financial base.

He's recounted anecdotes of buying cars outright back in the '90s with a single script, and he bought a house in London and sold it ~25 years later. Even if he did nothing else, he'd be worth quite a lot of money. I don't really want to go on about it too much because I look like a lunatic stalker tracking his finances (even though I'm just remembering bits from his own podcasts).

Edit: in fact if memory serves, a drunk Lou Sanders pointed all this out on an older RHLSTP (rhlstp).

[BeardFaceMan]

I think it's as simple as Rich having a dig at Stew is punching up rather than down.

There's a great John Robins bit about Stew v other comedians and Stew being a "millionaire underdog", but it seems to have vanished from the internet.

https://johnrobins.bandcamp.com/album/this-tornado-loves-you-live-2015

Starts at around 8 minutes in.

[EggsLikeABird]

Didnt Rich lose an ungodly amount of money on some play that crippled him years ago? I recall Stew even making a joke about Rich having a fascination of still losing 10s of thousands of pounds on a project regardless of the warning signs in front of him.

[Magnum Valentino]

He did, and the discussion of how badly his management let him down on that was the excised part from that awkward second RHLSTP that Stew was on.

[Ferris]

(Again, based on what Rich has said about himself on his own podcast) his Rasputin play in Edinburgh cost him ~40k.

I suspect it's a little blown out of proportion how badly that impacted his finances (I doubt he was close to being destitute), but yeah that probably changed his approach to chucking money at things. He crowdfunded a lot of his stuff after that, and I'm assuming he makes a few quid off the podcast which is a safer bet for him. Fair play, to be honest. He's earned his dues.

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It's the same as him still saying 'skellington', he just found something he thinks is funny and sticks with it, there's no self-awareness or grand scheme, just childish amusement at himself.

A good example, as 'skellington' is another one that we all did as children.


No need for a grand scheme, but a modicum of originally from him with these would be marvellous.