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Director/Actor Rivalries

Started by MortSahlFan, October 25, 2021, 12:00:52 AM

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MortSahlFan

Popular, but real rivalries.... First one that came to my mind was Bette David and John Crawford.

"You should never say bad things about the dead, you should only say good... Joan Crawford is dead. Good!" - Bette Davis


I'll look for more. I'm more interested in directors criticizing others' works. Spike Lee and Quentin Tarantino have said words about each other, mostly about vulgar language, but I rather find more things concrete about their movies, or career in general.

Here's a great site
https://www.theyshootpictures.com/directors.htm

Noodle Lizard

I always liked Hugh Grant talking shit about Rachel Weisz on the set of About A Boy and then, in subsequent interviews, not really remembering why.

C_Larence

There's a thread that gets shared around twitter occasionally of Orson Welles talking shit about pretty much everybody.
https://twitter.com/jfrankensteiner/status/1158570756349071361?s=21

And here he is decrying Elia Kazan
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLP8M9eXD8

maett

I always suspected Todd Solondz made Storytelling as a response to Sam Mendes' American Beauty ripping off his Happiness.  But it might have been in my head and these days I can't even remember why I thought that.

Aha found this: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2001/nov/26/artsfeatures  there are a number of other articles about the two directors.

Storytelling is a departure from Solondz's previous films, and one that suggests he has become more self-conscious. It is almost a response to his critics, on the one hand pointing out the pitfalls and contradictions of any kind of storytelling; on the other, with its parodies of critiques in writing classes and editing suites, affording Solondz opportunities to get back at his detractors. There are also stabs at American Beauty, provoked by remarks director Sam Mendes allegedly made about Happiness. "A couple of years ago I had an interview with someone who mentioned that Mr Mendes had described my film as condescending to my characters. And once I heard that story I felt I had carte blanche to pay my own homage to Mr Mendes and his film."

Ballad of Ballard Berkley

Quote from: C_Larence on October 25, 2021, 01:40:34 AM
There's a thread that gets shared around twitter occasionally of Orson Welles talking shit about pretty much everybody.
https://twitter.com/jfrankensteiner/status/1158570756349071361?s=21

That's brilliant, Welles was a superlative wind-up merchant. He presumably meant some of the things he said there, but he was definitely bullshitting too; for his own devilish amusement. The stuff about Harold Lloyd having no gag writers, for instance, that's blatantly untrue. Lloyd was hugely talented, but he was surrounded by gagmen. Welles must've known that.

He was right, though. As much as I admire Chaplin, Harold Lloyd and Buster Keaton were funnier.

Marlon Brando on Burt Reynolds - "He is the epitome of something that makes me wanna throw up...the epitome of everything that's disgusting about the thespian. He worships at the temple of his own narcissism."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ubnNoOwdY

Although arguably everything being said in this clip could be thrown back at Brando himself.


MortSahlFan

My movie friend said that Arthur Miller wrote "The Crucible" after Elia Kazan became a rat.

Ant Farm Keyboard

Arthur Miller also made the original film version (in French) of The Crucible nearly impossible to watch until his death not, as he claimed, because he had issues with Jean-Paul Sartre's adaptation, but because lead actor Yves Montand had later shagged Marilyn Monroe during production of Let's Make Love.

David Lynch wrote the character played by Robert Loggia in Lost Highway as an answer to the way Quentin Tarantino was writing gangsters.

machotrouts

What if Bette Davis was just trying to be nice and actually said "Joan Crawford is dead good!"

Magnum Valentino

Quote from: Ant Farm Keyboard on October 26, 2021, 01:55:04 AM

David Lynch wrote the character played by Robert Loggia in Lost Highway as an answer to the way Quentin Tarantino was writing gangsters.

Aw man this is worth sharing, holy fuck. Loggia's rage is hilarious.

https://youtu.be/qkQ5Ks0nZEw

dead-ced-dead

Less of a dig than a reaction, but I do find it funny that when Matthew Vaughn started directing films and moved away from Guy Ritchie, it was a gangster film that mocked the notion of cockerny-mockney-geezer gangsters who gave themselves nicknames. Every character who acts that way/has a cute nickname ends the film very poorly or dead.

MortSahlFan

Klaus Kinski and Werner Herzog. I recommend the documentary, "My Best Fiend"

Dusty Substance

Quote from: Magnum Valentino on October 26, 2021, 11:28:12 AM
Aw man this is worth sharing, holy fuck. Loggia's rage is hilarious.

https://youtu.be/qkQ5Ks0nZEw

Loggia was so awesome in everything. I just watched him having a good silly time while still doing the raging crime boss thing in Tim and Eric's Billion Dollar Movie.


Twit 2

Quote from: MortSahlFan on October 26, 2021, 12:42:25 PM
Klaus Kinski and Werner Herzog. I recommend the documentary, "My Best Fiend"

Also, Abel Ferrara's outburst about Herzog's Bad Lieutenant and a nicely "arsed mate cigs" response from Herzog.

Elderly Sumo Prophecy

Arnie/Sly Stallone. They finally appeared on screen together in Escape Plan and The Expendables, but sadly these films were a load of bab and nobody cared anymore.