Is this Josie Long article about cookdandbombd

[Utter Shit]

Shut it, cunt.

...mum?

[Phil_A]

You know what I mean; list threads.

Hardly seen any of those recently, the busiest thread in the last week or so have been the Red Dwarf re-watch and the trawl through the declining years of The Simpsons. I demand you prove your working, Kelvin!

[Gurke and Hare]

Hardly seen any of those recently, the busiest thread in the last week or so have been the Red Dwarf re-watch and the trawl through the declining years of The Simpsons. I demand you prove your working, Kelvin!

Doesn't he mean the kind of threads that you'd get on lower quality forums? Anyway, it's Wilson.

[NattyDread 2]

Abso-fucking-lutely. I honestly can't be fucked with Stew Lee, Brooker or Iannucci after they showed themselves up during the Corbyn era.

Aw man, what did Stew do? Say it ain't so!

[Kelvin]

Hardly seen any of those recently, the busiest thread in the last week or so have been the Red Dwarf re-watch and the trawl through the declining years of The Simpsons. I demand you prove your working, Kelvin!

I must admit, I can't find many recent ones either. Maybe they've dropped off in the last few months. This is the specific thread I thought of, though, and it's fairly recent:  https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,84431.0.html

I think it's rather missing my main point, though. Which is that, despite a lot of those people being twats, they did at least contribute to a much more interesting and insightful comedy chat than we've had in years. And I don't say that as a dig at CC now so much as pointing out that all the talk of those people and those threads being unpleasant to some comedians doesn't really capture the entire tone of Comedy Chat back then. The discussion then was certainly a lot more combative and fiery at its worst, but it was also a lot more interesting and in depth at it's best.   

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

It's not unlikely though that a comedian is going to read threads on a comedy forum, is it? It's not as if someone posted a screed about a random stranger who's annoyed them in the pub and had the bad luck that it's someone from here.

The comedian doesn't have to read the comedy forum. The comedian can't avoid horrible replies to their Twitter handle/Facebook/Instagram/other social media. That's the difference.

Can people still go too far on the comedy forum? Yes. Of course.

[poloniusmonk]

The comedian doesn't have to read the comedy forum. The comedian can't avoid horrible replies to their Twitter handle/Facebook/Instagram/other social media. That's the difference.

Can people still go too far on the comedy forum? Yes. Of course.

If you wanted to engage with other comedy enjoying people ommline in 2006 you couldn't go to Twitter/Instagram etc. And if you went to a forum that mentioned you, you wouldn't (however ill-advised) click on the chat to see what was being said? OK.

[Ferris]

I like Josie Long as a comedian and as a person and reckon anyone who disagrees is a bit suspect.

Stick that up yer 2006 CaB opinion.

[thenoise]

seemingly straight

is she calling us gay?

[thenoise]

[Removed -BAdmin]

Oh God that was weird. There was a parody mook for a while too after he left. Dont think anyone has tried to emulate Biggy.

[Mister Six]

Why? Why does he (or any other public figure) get to escape criticism merely by posting on here?

Why should he receive criticism merely for posting on here?

Why are you defending them? Was one of them you?

[Mister Six]

Actually, I found the thread, and I slightly misremembered - not as many people being utterly obnoxious, and many defending him. But some were being quite nasty, including one Famous Mortimer, who got quite unpleasant about Collins's "smug" photo in the Radio Times, even though Collins was just writing very long, polite defences of his work and not ragging on anyone.

Not very nice.

[Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse]

If you wanted to engage with other comedy enjoying people ommline in 2006 you couldn't go to Twitter/Instagram etc.

Yeah I've been online since 2000, okay, I remember Yahoo Groups, don't be a condescending shitbag. Swap out Twitter/Instagram for Livejournal. Same difference.

And if you went to a forum that mentioned you, you wouldn't (however ill-advised) click on the chat to see what was being said? OK.

In that case we shouldn't say anything negative about anybody here in case someone's googling their name/work. And I already said that the comedy forum can go too far. There's still a difference in talking behind someone's digital back and going to their digital home to yell at them that they suck.

[Ferris]

That's an incredibly sad story. Wow.

As a pretty new poster (1 year or so), I've felt very welcomed and enjoy the discussions about comedy new and old. I also feel we're good at checking on each other. In the Glinner threads, for example, some posters occasionally speculate about his life in a way that slips from fun to ghoulish (speculating he has an addiction, for example) and other posters are quick to get the train back on track and come back from ghoulishness.

Generally, I feel like we're quite good at (with the odd exception and slip) punching up for our chuckles rather than punching down.

I'm glad I joined the forum recently.

I've only wasted 3 or 4 years on here so think I still count as fairly new, and I echo your sentiment entirely.

This thread crops up every now and again (discussing earlier periods of forum history), and I'm glad I didn't find CaB back then as I would have moved on pretty quick. Now it is a pretty fun and welcoming place and there are very few posters that are actively disagreeable, and those are usually the same 2 or 3 tedious trolls who have their own things going on.

[holyzombiejesus]

Josie Long tweeted about this place in a roundabout way last summer. She was being targeted by a now banned poster (who had a problem with women and socialists) and someone mentioned how he used to post on here. She still sounded really pissed off about this place but also told someone who tweeted in defence of C&B that she was glad that it had apparently changed and that people were getting enjoyment from the place. She's deleted her tweets now though.

[Utter Shit]

Actually, I found the thread, and I slightly misremembered - not as many people being utterly obnoxious, and many defending him. But some were being quite nasty, including one Famous Mortimer, who got quite unpleasant about Collins's "smug" photo in the Radio Times, even though Collins was just writing very long, polite defences of his work and not ragging on anyone.

Not very nice.

Christ, yeah. The idea that someone being (in your opinion) bad at their job - a trivial job like most of us have, he isn't a doctor injecting your mum with the wrong fluid and making her heart explode - entitles you to be so aggressively rude to them...fucking hell. He's made a podcast that you don't like, there is no justification for talking to him like that. Quite a few dickheads in that thread.

[Famous Mortimer]

On a forum where the most popular recent thread has gone into extreme detail about a former comedy writer's mental health, my ten year old reference to a boring, unfunny writer as having a smug face is the thing that's really got people upset.

[Mister Six]

More like you telling the writer himself that he has a smug face in a really cunty way for no reason, then getting all defensive and stroppy about it ten years later rather than just admitting you acted like an arsehole way back when, or even just ignoring the reference and moving on.

And that's without even mentioning the bullshit equivalence of prolific transphobic online bully Graham Linehan to essentially harmless minor broadcaster Andrew Collins.

But aye, yeah, it's everyone else that's at fault here.

[Panbaams]

The spirit of CaB in 2006 needn't be too far away. In this thread, the exchanges between Poroits BigGarlickyCorpse & polonius monk and Mister Six & Famous Mortimer look the most promising, if only they can keep it up for another 40 pages.

Possibly it's worth mentioning that the 2006 posters probably had other stuff to do outside posting on CaB. Imagine if they'd had a lockdown back then.

[druss]

Personally I think that anyone associated with this forum should be cancelled after reading this thread.

[Barry Admin]

Tidied up the thread by removing stuff that obviously shouldn't have been here - evident by the word filter evasion and rules. Please be aware that this stirs a lot of shit and I end up getting mad, abusive contact etc. I'm also completely unwilling to see CaB go down that route again, but that's what always happens.  Thanks.

[jobotic]

Andrew Collins is a neo-liberal bosses' club.

[Capt.Midnight]

Comedy Chat was always a prototype Incel cesspit back then. It did seep out to the other parts of the forum, but that was ground zero for that sort of thing.

Late 90s to mid 2000s, this forum and a few others were great (and only) sources of music, film recommendations and discussions.

You've also got to factor in the comedy landscape back in 2006 - Gervais, Louis CK, Jimmy Carr... Not my type of thing at all, but reading that old thread just sounds like ppl poorly attempting to imitate that, combined with the usual layer of introverted rage / male insecurity / inferiority complexes.

[JaDanketies]

maybe if I stick a pic of her in the Phwoar thread it'll make up for the historic misogyny on this forum.

[Shoulders?-Stomach!]

The discussion then was certainly a lot more combative and fiery at its worst, but it was also a lot more interesting and in depth at it's best.

If you can't handle me at my most combative and fiery you don't deserve me at my more interesting and in-depth

[Brundle-Fly]

[PaulTMA]

Comedy Chat was always a prototype Incel cesspit back then.

It would have been on another forum, but I made a glib remark about a certain website or other being 'lame' once and one of the webmasters who knew my full name took it upon himself to try and 'own' me by making multiple Myspace pages loosely and unflatteringly caricaturing me and also the band I played in in cartoon form, which stretched to him making several animated videos on that theme.  I didn't find it remotely hurtful, just kind of jaw-dropping to observe the level of thin-skinned obsession he went to in response to some flippant remark, ironically directed at a website that took great delight in critically slaughtering people, which of course extended to postings this forum.   I can only assume he was struggling hard with succeeding during that stage of his life, either that or just a bit of a real-life Quinlank-type (or both).

[Spiral King]

but which is better

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Well, I think both had/have highs and lows. I do like that dissenting opinions are not shouted down in new CAB. And then immediately replaced by more analysis of Python or Absolutely or whatever. But old CAB did have more critical analysis on the regular, as Kelvin said. So, it's like a double edged sword. But I don't think my memory of old CAB is at all objective, as it's mixed in with my memories of the time and the general decline of British comedy since 2000 or whatever.

So, to answer your question after that meandering bollocks: yes.

[lazyhour]

It would have been on another forum, but I made a glib remark about a certain website or other being 'lame' once and one of the webmasters who knew my full name took it upon himself to try and 'own' me by making multiple Myspace pages loosely and unflatteringly caricaturing me and also the band I played in in cartoon form, which stretched to him making several animated videos on that theme.  I didn't find it remotely hurtful, just kind of jaw-dropping to observe the level of thin-skinned obsession he went to in response to some flippant remark, ironically directed at a website that took great delight in critically slaughtering people, which of course extended to postings this forum.   I can only assume he was struggling hard with succeeding during that stage of his life, either that or just a bit of a real-life Quinlank-type (or both).

I can match that. One of the ringleaders in that horrible Josie thread made a satirical fake MySpace page for one reason or another, and it included a fake satirical "top 8 friends". One of them had the name "Josie Long" but - get this - the picture that he used was one he'd found of *me*!

That certainly taught me a lesson. Or made a clever point. I was never sure which.

[bobloblaw]

This joke is like a whoopee cushion in that I am so frequently taken aback by how endlessly funny it is.

This links to my profile. I have no idea why. I'd rather it didn't
For what it's worth, I've never had a bad word to say about Josie and have always enjoyed her comedy and broadcasting.