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Liquorice Pizza

Started by phantom_power, September 27, 2021, 05:43:38 PM

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phantom_power

New film by PT Anderson. Always the promise of something great and not at all what you are expecting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofnXPwUPENo

Dusty Substance


Fuck me, it looks good. Film of the year!

Also, Best Supporting Actor Oscar for Bradley Cooper.

Sebastian Cobb

Not really sure what this is about but I'm pretty hyped for it anyway.

phantom_power

Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on September 27, 2021, 07:28:55 PM
Not really sure what this is about but I'm pretty hyped for it anyway.

That's pretty much par for the course with PTA

sevendaughters

looks a bit more slight than we're used to, but a good film doesn't have to be a sledgehammer.

i know he's into music but i am sure there has to be a better actor available than one of Haim.

impossible to glean much from a trailer ultimately.

Sebastian Cobb

One of his last films had a couple of promo videos he'd shot of Haim recording stuff before the film.

joaquin closet

Quote from: sevendaughters on September 27, 2021, 07:49:21 PM
i know he's into music but i am sure there has to be a better actor available than one of Haim.

I think the fact that she's been cast by Paul Thomas Anderson means that one of Haim is probably a very good actor.

amputeeporn

Well, I thought that was banging. Exactly the right direction after Phantom Thread - I love the way this guy moves.

Harvey Milk

Given this is based on Gary Goetzman's childhood, when he was an actor in some films by Jonathan Demme, PTA's favourite filmmaker and also his former mentor, I wonder if perhaps this could be inspired by stories he heard from them about LA in the '70s.

kngen

I only know Liquorice Pizza as the record shop in LA that Matt Groening worked in for a while and that once hosted Black Flag, so I was expecting something very different. Still looks kinda cool though.

phantom_power

The lad is Phillip Seymour Hoffman's son I have just discovered

peanutbutter

I've been mildly against the idea of him doing another film set in 70s LA; that being said, I'm not gonna watch the trailer or read much about it because I'll be going to it regardless.

colacentral

Quote from: phantom_power on September 28, 2021, 09:09:09 AM
The lad is Phillip Seymour Hoffman's son I have just discovered

Bradley Cooper is also quite clearly playing the role that Hoffman would have played if he was alive. Looks exactly like his character from Punch Drunk Love.

Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth

Sounds good to me. I've had fennel on pizza and that's delicious.

phantom_power

Quote from: colacentral on September 28, 2021, 02:12:33 PM
Bradley Cooper is also quite clearly playing the role that Hoffman would have played if he was alive. Looks exactly like his character from Punch Drunk Love.

He is playing Jon Peters, super-producer from the 70s

colacentral

I didn't mean literally. His portrayal by Cooper, the way he's been shot and his role in the film (well, going off a single trailer) as a hyper masculine bully looks similar to Hoffman's role in Punch Drunk Love and other similar roles he's played. There's shades of Tom Cruise's character in Magnolia too. It seems like a PTA archetype.

Twit 2

Didn't even realise he had a new film out. I adore PTA. He's incapable of making a bad film. They're all varying degrees of awesome. I really loved The Master and Inherent Vice, a lot more than most people it seems. Phantom Thread blew me away and didn't get enough recognition for my liking, even if got most people who didn't like TM and IH back on board. Trailer looks both "PTA to the max" and also something a bit different, which is a good combo. But I will watch anything the dude puts out, regardless of trailer and hype.

sevendaughters

Generally I find PTA doesn't quite hit the heights for me - with the exception of the first hour of TWBB, which is probably as good as Hollywood/big indie filmmaking has been this century as far as I can survey. Even that doesn't quite sustain into its second hour with the introduction of the conman brother and ultimately spins out into this default meditation on suffused male trauma that is in The Master, Punchdrunk Love, Magnolia that is a bit cinematic Radiohead album: well constructed and aiming for something, but not quite as good as stuff that maybe even isn't as self-conscious about its own artfulness.

Obviously compared to what Hollywood is putting out there he is a titan amongst pygmies.



Twit 2

Peter Bradshaw gave it 5 stars. Stopped clock.

Dickie_Anders

After TWBB (a film I don't think is very good, despite the obviously mental central performance) I think PTA improved a lot. I've liked all of the ones he's done since that. The Master is probably one of the better movies I've ever seen to be honest, and I love Inherent Vice, though I can understand why it's so divisive. Phantom Thread is one of the best comedy movies of the last decade imo. This looks hilarious too, looking forward to it

peanutbutter

This is out, I liked it a lot. The Sean Penn bit didn't work but
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I appreciate that level of commitment to (what  seemed to be) building up a pratfall gag
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and if the line where Alana Haim says she's
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28 before correcting to 25 was a flub that they kept in
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I asbolutely love that they did, works really well for the character.


There's something about his films in general that's off with the pacing though, isn't there? I feel like almost every one has a point about midway through where I get the feeling it's beginning to wrap up. Not an issue on rewatch at all and I tend to like them all but there's definitely something a bit off I can't pin down.



mjwilson


Twit 2


surreal

Well I enjoyed that - now a bit in love with the Haim girl (her sisters and parents are in it too).  Kind of all over the place as PTA movies tend to be, being about characters and situations rather than focused plots, but it looked and sounded fantastic.  Hopefully not, but possibly, the best film I'll see this year.


EDIT: is there any story behind
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the guy with the Japanese wives
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? I thought at first it was
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a cute way to avoid having him to speak Japanese & have subs but it killed me when he admitted he didn't
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peanutbutter

Quote from: surreal on January 08, 2022, 01:43:13 PMEDIT: is there any story behind
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the guy with the Japanese wives
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? I thought at first it was
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a cute way to avoid having him to speak Japanese & have subs but it killed me when he admitted he didn't
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Think he was just a bit of a grifter who had a Japanese wife to give authenticity to his themed restaurants?

Kinda suprirsed that was the bit that caused the most controversy about this film tbh.

Twit 2

Absolutely loved this. Probably could have lost Waits/Penn, but even that bit worked in the context of the film. But yeah, another belter from PTA, didn't expect anything less. Everyone on their A game. Watched the whole thing with a massive grin on my face. Joyous, beautifully observed, sweet, funny, charming, sophisticated. Quality.