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Started by danwho9, January 08, 2022, 04:26:39 PM
Quote from: Autopsy Turvey on January 13, 2022, 02:32:35 PMDo you mean that kids ribbed other kids about their unemployed dads being like Wayne Slob?
Quote from: sevendaughters on January 13, 2022, 02:33:55 PM"I can't understand it", he says, understanding it in the remainder of the sentence.
Quote from: Autopsy Turvey on January 13, 2022, 02:49:29 PMIt was the word 'povs' that threw me, thought it had something to do with points of view, but I see now it's clearly short for poverty. So kids of the working poor would rib the kids of the unemployed, but how does that disprove my assertion that working class viewers may have been more fond of the Slobs than middle class viewers?
QuoteI hate to agree with you,
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on January 13, 2022, 02:55:08 PMI've posted about how much I loved Steptoe and Son and Python's working class characters, when in the 90s they were considered dated and sneering.
QuoteBut the Slobs are not a good example of this. They're a terrible example. What's quotable or revealing about them? There's nothing relatable or true to life there to grasp on to, its just what the middle class think of the lower class.
Quote from: Autopsy Turvey on January 13, 2022, 03:05:51 PMrag and bone men were long gone
Quote from: Autopsy Turvey on January 13, 2022, 03:05:51 PMI disagree, and would just suggest you watch them again. I can't say if middle class people think everyone in a lower socio-economic bracket is like Wayne and Waynetta Slob, I have my doubts, but even if that were so, doesn't that make it more an absurd piss-take of that absurd perception, rather than the whole production team going "it's great that we can finally show the poor how disgusting they are?"
Quote from: Shit Good Nose on January 13, 2022, 03:01:20 PMI've just remembered the Palace Of Righteous Justice. HURRAH!!!!
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on January 13, 2022, 03:12:24 PMThe Slobs were the most extreme and nasty depictions of benefit claimants that had been on the TV up until that point.
QuoteI just can't buy that their popularity was due to being embraced by council house tenants rather than people jumping on stuff like "I wanna brown baby" as they later would with Vicki Pollard.
Quote from: Autopsy Turvey on January 13, 2022, 03:38:00 PMThe 'brahhn baby' stuff was a good example of something that did seem daringly relatable to working class audiences at the time - like the sketch where Waynetta leaves Wayne because Frogmella is getting teased at school for having two parents - who recognise the kernels of social truth.
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on January 13, 2022, 03:40:58 PMSorry, this is just absurd. "Kernel of social truth", c'mon. And you say this right after you said there was nothing in the sketches to mark them as lower class, consistency a strong point as usual.
Quote from: Video Game Fan 2000 on January 13, 2022, 04:09:55 PM"They weren't meant to represent the actual underclass in any kind of real world, any more than Smudge from the Beano"and yet"something that did seem daringly relatable to working class audiences at the time - who recognise the kernels of social truth"Cmon.
Quote from: sevendaughters on January 13, 2022, 04:55:42 PMit was so fucking clearly a go at "chavs", of course it had a basis in real world poverty! jeeesus christ!
Quote from: pigamus on January 13, 2022, 05:00:15 PMI see them sort of like Dave and Denise in the Royle Family, just kind of a bit clueless
Quote from: sevendaughters on January 13, 2022, 05:07:33 PMIf it is just a series of sketches with the through line of 'lol poor' or at best 'lol poor...juxtaposition?' then I'm sorry, that is far worse.
Quote from: Catalogue Trousers on January 13, 2022, 07:03:06 PM'LOOK! She-Woman-Cat-Type-thing is LICKING her own GENITALS in an UNSELFCONSCIOUS MANNER!'
Quote from: Replies From View on January 13, 2022, 05:48:42 PMI don't like the statement in the title that people who don't like Harry Enfield's stuff aren't "getting" it.Why is it like that?
Quote from: beanheadmcginty on January 12, 2022, 10:29:36 AMSurely the Slobs' portrayal of smoking must have done something beneficial for the nation's health? They made it look so disgusting. I've never smoked a fag in my life. Coincidence?
Quote from: Retinend on January 22, 2022, 04:54:16 PMwatching this for the first time, the first thing I thought of is Breathlesshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breathless_(1960_film)but is it parodying something else entirely?
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