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Title: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on February 18, 2021, 04:31:31 PM
Apologies if I missed this being mentioned in another thread, however Steve Wright gave it a shout during his show today.

It seems Greg Davies has written, and will star in, a new upcoming comedy about a Crime Scene Cleaner which is set to also feature Helena Bonham-Carter and David Mitchell. More into here ....

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/the-cleaner    (https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/the-cleaner)

Anything featuring Davies and Mitchell has gotta be good, though not sure about HB-C?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on February 18, 2021, 04:36:18 PM
A bit more Googling reveals...

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  The cast also includes David Mitchell (“Upstart Crow”), Stephanie Cole (“Still Open All Hours”), Donald Sumpter (“Game Of Thrones”), Shobu Kapoor (“Four Weddings And A Funeral”), Ruth Madeley (“Years And Years”), Layton Williams (“Everybody’s Talking About Jamie” musical), Zita Sattar (“Casualty”), Georgie Glen (“The Crown”), Bill Skinner (“Ted Lasso”) and Esmonde Cole (“Still So Awkward”).
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on February 18, 2021, 04:38:20 PM
I've not got on with Greg Davies' previous sitcoms.

It's also based on a long running successful german sitcom.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: up_the_hampipe on February 18, 2021, 04:49:09 PM
I loved Man Down, but I have doubts this'll be as silly. Still, could be good though.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on February 18, 2021, 05:02:53 PM
Yeah doesn't sound like a setup that would support many Milky Sues. It's still Greg Davies though, so I have high hopes.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on February 18, 2021, 05:09:58 PM
Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: dissolute ocelot on February 18, 2021, 05:11:48 PM
Does he solve crimes at the same time? The combination of Germany and horribly dismembered corpses does seem to suggest lols aplenty. But Davies is usually good to great, and I can imagine him picking up a bloody hand and pulling a face. Pulling a face off the filing cabinet in which it has been brutally smashed. Ditto, basically.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: olliebean on August 29, 2021, 10:29:05 PM
Starts on 10th September.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_xaJ7eKBLE
Clip: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09t9635
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BritishHobo on August 29, 2021, 11:55:23 PM
Huge fan of Man Down, so very excited to see what this is like.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Steven88 on August 30, 2021, 12:47:42 AM
I liked Cuckoo apart from the last series and Man Down, hopefully this is decent.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 30, 2021, 01:07:31 AM
Starts on 10th September.

Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_xaJ7eKBLE
Clip: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09t9635

That clip is funny. The concept is dark and it works in being at odds with Davies' style of comedy. Intrigued.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BritishHobo on August 30, 2021, 01:15:30 AM
Indeed, it looks like an intriguing departure for him.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on August 30, 2021, 06:48:44 AM
Yes, it looks like he might actually be funny in this.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: chrispmartha on August 30, 2021, 07:05:34 AM
Sounds similar to Mr & Mrs Murder, an Australian comedy about crime scene cleaners

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2390791/
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on August 30, 2021, 08:47:28 AM
I’m glad we’ve been given more than the trailer, because that makes it look dreadful. Just a load of three-second clips with zero context.

The longer clip is promising though. It’s Greg Davies being Greg Davies, but that’s no bad thing - nobody will be watching this hoping that he’s gone subtle and understated.

It looks good. I’m optimistic!
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Theremin on August 30, 2021, 09:42:00 AM
Anyone know the name of the German show it's based on?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: olliebean on August 30, 2021, 09:50:13 AM
Anyone know the name of the German show it's based on?

Der Tatortreiniger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Scene_Cleaner_(TV_series)
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: icehaven on August 30, 2021, 10:45:20 AM
Reading that cast list I thought "Bloody hell, Stephanie Cole is still alive? She must be at least 90" as I mainly remember her from Waiting For God. Turns out she was 48-53 when she was in that, playing someone who was supposed to be about 20 years older than she actually was. I can't remember now but was she made up to look older?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Malcy on August 30, 2021, 11:38:00 AM
Reading that cast list I thought "Bloody hell, Stephanie Cole is still alive? She must be at least 90" as I mainly remember her from Waiting For God. Turns out she was 48-53 when she was in that, playing someone who was supposed to be about 20 years older than she actually was. I can't remember now but was she made up to look older?

I thought when she left Doc Martin probably 10+ years ago that it was because she was just too old to do it any more and was retiring but then she popped up in the live Inside No 9 episode a couple of years ago.

Enjoyed Man Down & Cuckoo so hopefully enjoy this too.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on August 30, 2021, 11:57:09 AM
Reading that cast list I thought "Bloody hell, Stephanie Cole is still alive? She must be at least 90" as I mainly remember her from Waiting For God. Turns out she was 48-53 when she was in that, playing someone who was supposed to be about 20 years older than she actually was. I can't remember now but was she made up to look older?

Well, I don't think she was * that * pleased about it.
I think Stephanie Cole is just one of these people who have just always looked old, like the recently departed Ed Asner looked to be in his mid- sixties in the Mary Tyler Moore Show when he was only about forty. Yer woman was playing an old git back in the 70s in " Open All Hours" ( and played the same character in the revived series, despite the fact that , technically, that character should be about 110 at that point).
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 30, 2021, 08:35:19 PM
Wonder how much of a rip off of Spotless it'll feel like.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on August 30, 2021, 09:17:48 PM
Very much looking forward to this. Greg Davies is becoming one of those comics who can raise a laugh before he even speaks as he seems naturally funny. His well practiced withering look (probably honed in his teacher years) as well as the exaggerated arched eye brow tickles me no end.

Then there is something about his childish stomping indignation act that seems out of place for a man of his years.

All in all reckon he is becoming something of a comedy National Treasure. Here’s hoping this show enhances that.
 
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Gurke and Hare on August 30, 2021, 09:36:09 PM
Very much looking forward to this. Greg Davies is becoming one of those comics who can raise a laugh before he even speaks as he seems naturally funny. His well practiced withering look (probably honed in his teacher years)

Just the idea of him being a teacher is funny.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on August 31, 2021, 06:55:29 AM
There’s a good press piece here: https://www.chortle.co.uk/features/2021/08/30/49162/why_my_grisly_crime_scene_cleaner_reminds_me_of_mr_benn..

I’m cautiously optimistic about this!
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on August 31, 2021, 01:57:05 PM
Very much looking forward to this. Greg Davies is becoming one of those comics who can raise a laugh before he even speaks as he seems naturally funny. His well practiced withering look (probably honed in his teacher years) as well as the exaggerated arched eye brow tickles me no end.

Then there is something about his childish stomping indignation act that seems out of place for a man of his years.

All in all reckon he is becoming something of a comedy National Treasure. Here’s hoping this show enhances that.

See, I agree, but I haven't liked any of his sitcoms. Hopefully this one will be different.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on September 09, 2021, 09:20:11 PM
Bumping this thread in anticipation of the show starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Malcy on September 09, 2021, 10:06:40 PM
Bumping this thread in anticipation of the show starting tomorrow.

Thanks, I had seen several reviews around the place and wondered how I couldn't find it. Thought it had already started.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 09, 2021, 11:27:55 PM
It gets a pretty rotten (and spoilery) review in the Radio Times: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/comedy/the-cleaner-review/
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: greencalx on September 10, 2021, 08:02:03 PM
Usually RT loves everything I hate, but the converse is not necessarily true. Might give this a whirl later.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Gurke and Hare on September 10, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Three stars, some funny bits. I liked it when he kicked the pie for the second time, and there was another good bit but I've forgotten what it was now.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on September 10, 2021, 10:36:30 PM
Not bad at all. Most enjoyable.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: studpuppet on September 10, 2021, 10:41:16 PM
The toilet scene certainly gave away its German origins - they LOVE gags about caca.

Reading that cast list I thought "Bloody hell, Stephanie Cole is still alive? She must be at least 90" as I mainly remember her from Waiting For God. Turns out she was 48-53 when she was in that, playing someone who was supposed to be about 20 years older than she actually was. I can't remember now but was she made up to look older?

Tenko did for her. Only 40 when that started.

(https://res.cloudinary.com/uktv/image/upload/v1485259978/sk72oufmhgc7pkcki5kx.jpg)
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on September 10, 2021, 10:56:54 PM
I could've done without the wacky fantasy musical number, but I thought that was quite promising. Greg Davies playing a disgruntled, oblivious buffoon will always be funny, he's absolutely nailed that persona, and I like the basic premise. It made me laugh a couple of times* and I was never bored or annoyed. Thumbs up!

Helena Bonham Carter will presumably return at some point? They seemed to be laying the groundwork for a sort of Luther/Alice relationship between those characters.

* I'm not a big laugher. I'm a small laugher.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 11, 2021, 07:34:48 AM
I thought it was ok. The funniest bits were in the very first scene that was in the preview clip and I don’t think it lived up to the promise.

There was enough in there to suggest it’s worth sticking with though. Greg’s a funny man. I have faith.

The scenes with the neighbour were odd. They didn’t really add anything to the story or seem funny enough to justify their inclusion. Greg obviously just wanted to boot a pie.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 11, 2021, 08:18:09 AM
Turns out all the episodes are up on the iPlayer.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Alberon on September 11, 2021, 10:26:26 AM
I could've done without the wacky fantasy musical number, but I thought that was quite promising.

That felt like a direct lift from a Car Share episode to me.

It wasn't bad, I did like the more surreal elements such as the man boy, but then I almost always do.

Worth a punt on another episode, though.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Shit Good Nose on September 11, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
Yes, I rather enjoyed that.  Preferred it over Cuckoo, although it's obviously not on the same scale as Man Up.

Very much enjoyed the obsessing over the cheap pub curry night and how into it he is, knowing what dishes will be on offer and the acceptable life of a fresh naan.  Very well observed.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 11, 2021, 04:56:16 PM
Helena Bonham Carter will presumably return at some point? They seemed to be laying the groundwork for a sort of Luther/Alice relationship between those characters.

I think we've seen the last of her and it's going to be more of a murder-scene-of-the-week thing where there are different characters every week

Didn't realise it was a BBC1 show so we didn't get proper Greg but it was still very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on September 11, 2021, 05:00:22 PM
I think we've seen the last of her and it's going to be more of a murder-scene-of-the-week thing where there are different characters every week

You're right, it's primarily a series of standalone stories, but the end of episode one seemed to suggest that HBC's story isn't quite over yet.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 11, 2021, 05:05:40 PM
You're right, it's primarily a series of standalone stories, but the end of episode one seemed to suggest that HBC's story isn't quite over yet.

Yeah if they are all standalone then that was an odd choice for the first episode, given the ending
.

Didn't realise they were all on iplayer, that's the weekends viewing sorted.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: phes on September 11, 2021, 05:09:41 PM
Der Tatortreiniger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_Scene_Cleaner_(TV_series)

I started watching this several years back but got sidetracked. It was pretty good and would say it's well worth looking into
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Steven88 on September 11, 2021, 05:14:17 PM
I've watched the first 3 episodes and enjoyed it so far, episode two is pretty light on laughs though. Episode 3 was the best so far.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Gurke and Hare on September 11, 2021, 08:18:00 PM
there was another good bit but I've forgotten what it was now.

Remembered now, it was the bit about a man riding around the town on a dog.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 12, 2021, 10:25:09 PM
Bit of a mixed bag, this. Greg Davies is always good but the episodes live and die according to the guest star as these are essentially a series of two-handers. Some good, some ok, and the one with the influencer I very nearly had to turn off because it was so bad. I'm in no hurry for a rewatch but would definitely watch a 2nd series.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Mobius on September 13, 2021, 12:02:53 AM
I watched the first episode and don't think I liked it. Why did the neighbour want an apology letter, that was weird. Why are people allowed to just wander in and out of a crime scene and bring food in to get karate kicked all over the blood and guts.

Why was there a singing bit?

2/5. The bit where Greg Davies says his mate rides a dog around town got a chuckle.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: paruses on September 13, 2021, 07:57:12 AM
I suppose they are allowed into the crime scene as it has been processed and released - he's cleaning it up not preserving or gathering anything. You would have thought there would be someone at the house though for HBC's character since she was on the run.

Seen first two eps so far. Hated the poo-ing bit but then I would.  Gita and Paul Chowdry made me laugh. David Mitchell not so much - he seemed a bit too much like a character from a Mitchell and Webb sketch.

Am enjoying it. Feels like a mix of Man Down ultra-lite and something you would find on Walter Presents which works well together for some reason. Am interested to see the rest.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on September 13, 2021, 08:03:39 AM
There would have been a police presence in real life, all the fuzz wouldn't have just fucked off, saying " we'll just leave matey boy to clean all that blood up, then."; but if that happened in this show, none of the zany comedy could have happened. This kind of thing is how sit- com plots are allowed to develop, to be fair.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: olliebean on September 13, 2021, 08:49:14 AM
Why was there a singing bit?

You never need a reason for a singing bit.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: frajer on September 13, 2021, 09:03:01 AM
Caned the whole series over Saturday/Sunday and, while it was a mixed bag, overall I liked it a lot.

Favourite was Episode 4 (which had the feeling of an Inside No. 9) and I'd say the weakest was the vegan episode. Pleasantly bittersweet last episode too. I'd definitely like to see another series.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on September 13, 2021, 09:34:05 AM
Binged on the whole series this weekend. Has a few flat spots but overall v enjoyable with quite a few laugh out loud moments… and lawd knows there haven’t been many comedy shows doing that for me at least of late.

As noted above it can depend on the performance of the co star as these are all essentially two handers. As a result don’t think Davies goes full Greg against the likes of David Mitchel as both essentially do the same schtick so Greg does seem to downplay it a bit in that one. Thought number three was the best as the actress he plays against (name escapes me at moment) is a perfect foil. number four was also top stuff with Stephanie Cole playing her old battleaxe role breezing through other peoples lives and feelings like a stately galleon.

Got a bit sentimental towards the end particularly the final episode but that seemed a nice counterpoint to the bleakness of the first one where he chose his waster life over the chance to take Helena Bonham Carter up the Dolomites fnarr fnarr

Give us a second series you shit.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Utter Shit on September 13, 2021, 11:12:54 AM
Why did the neighbour want an apology letter, that was weird.

[...]

The bit where Greg Davies says his mate rides a dog around town got a chuckle.

Come on now!
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: SteveDave on September 14, 2021, 09:43:05 AM
It all felt a bit flat for me Clive.

Episode 1 and 4 were my favourites as the other character Greg was pitched against worked but the others were a little off. I did think he was going to "solve" the murder/death in each one too. Maybe I was expecting too much as I bloody loved "Man Down"
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on September 14, 2021, 11:38:49 AM
Well I like it, you miserable sods.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 14, 2021, 11:57:52 AM
There were some nice surreal moments and flights of fancy but this is basically Man Down filtered through a BBC1 lense. Turned out as good as it could've, really. Love Greg and his comedy but he's not really a BBC1 guy, I think the show would have been better on another channel where he could get a bit weirder with it.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on September 14, 2021, 01:29:42 PM
^whilst I’m not 100% certain, I suspect BBC pays better than say C4?

On top of that it also must have the broadest reach, maybe Greg is looking to hit McIntyre territory and fill arenas?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Norton Canes on September 14, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
Sorry, I bailed at Helena Bonham Carter
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 14, 2021, 03:59:19 PM
^whilst I’m not 100% certain, I suspect BBC pays better than say C4?

On top of that it also must have the broadest reach, maybe Greg is looking to hit McIntyre territory and fill arenas?

Oh for sure, you can't begrudge him for wanting more money or a bigger audience, I'm just saying that what we got with The Cleaner was about as good as it was going to get, all things considered. A tamer Man Down is still a lot better than most BBC1 sitcoms.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Tony Tony Tony on September 14, 2021, 08:44:16 PM
Oh for sure, you can't begrudge him for wanting more money or a bigger audience, I'm just saying that what we got with The Cleaner was about as good as it was going to get, all things considered. A tamer Man Down is still a lot better than most BBC1 sitcoms.

I hear exactly what you are saying there.

Leads me to muse on what might be the holy grail as far as exposure goes for your regular comic. I sometimes hear comedians saying they are happy with the level they have reached and don’t really want to step up to mega stardom because it restricts creativity and being able to walk down the street without being mobbed (or being robbed of your watch). I never seem to believe them.

Whilst there are some comics who know they will never achieve mass appeal, so don’t strive for it, (Sadowitz anyone?) So do folks reckon that secretly yer regular stand up yearns for Saturday night prime time?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on September 14, 2021, 08:53:45 PM
Oh for sure, you can't begrudge him for wanting more money or a bigger audience, I'm just saying that what we got with The Cleaner was about as good as it was going to get, all things considered. A tamer Man Down is still a lot better than most BBC1 sitcoms.

I don't think this was ever meant to be as mad as Man Down. It's quite restrained and contemplative. Basically two-handers on different subjects, and I enjoyed that nature very much.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 14, 2021, 09:12:24 PM
I don't think this was ever meant to be as mad as Man Down. It's quite restrained and contemplative. Basically two-handers on different subjects, and I enjoyed that nature very much.

That's what I mean, something like Man Down would never fly on BBC1, so this is the BBC1 version of Greg, which isn't his prime environment. So you do get something more restrained, that's the nature of the channel, but there's still enough of his personality left for it to be recognisable as his show, like him jumping in slo-mo over a wheelchair or Paul Chowdry in a school uniform passing without comment.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Malcy on September 19, 2021, 10:38:13 AM
Watched the whose series last night and really enjoyed it. I thought episodes 3 and 6 were the best of the lot. Hope there's another series!
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 19, 2021, 07:16:32 PM
I'm liking it a lot too, I've only seen the first three so far but I enjoyed all of them, the David Mitchell one was the weakest for him as I felt his character was too highly strung and a little irritating at times, but the other two were really great. I think the third might be my favourite so far, I did have concerns it was heading in to Gervais territory initially but the direction it took was both funny and very sweet natured.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: greencalx on September 19, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
We're old-fashioned and are watching these as they are broadcast. I quite liked the Mitchell one - both of us were chuckling most of the way through, even if it was David Mitchell playing himself. The first one was probably better but I had just got back from the pub so wasn't in the best frame of mind to remember much about it. If Ep 2 is the weakest, then that bodes well for the rest of the run.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Captain Z on September 19, 2021, 07:58:02 PM
Just finished all 6. Big Inside No. 9 vibes, as others have pointed out. Was fully onboard for the first three, but thought it took a dip at episode 4. Final episode picked it back up a bit, but I think the first was my favourite (biggest laugh was at the pie-kicking) and I’m still quite disappointed that the series wasn’t a continuation of that plot.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on September 19, 2021, 08:12:09 PM
A dip at 4? The Stephanie Cole one? Interesting choice. I wouldn't say the series dipped at any point but the vegan lady and former girlfriend ones were my least favourites, although the last one was quite nice and wistful.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Malcy on September 19, 2021, 08:26:02 PM
A dip at 4? The Stephanie Cole one? Interesting choice. I wouldn't say the series dipped at any point but the vegan lady and former girlfriend ones were my least favourites, although the last one was quite nice and wistful.

As much as i enjoyed episode 4, it was just a bit too predictable. Still thought it was great though.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Captain Z on September 19, 2021, 08:39:59 PM
Yes, I’m sure some people will consider SC acting royalty, but the first half was extremely well-trodden stereotypical boomer stuff and it really dragged for me. The ‘twist’ picked it up a bit, but was not hugely original either.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: olliebean on September 19, 2021, 09:52:29 PM
The end of the Stephanie Cole episode was rather too obviously set up with the Chekhov's tallow.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on September 20, 2021, 11:07:49 AM
I enjoyed the David Mitchell one, but it did show him up as a sketch actor compared to the others.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: gilbertharding on September 20, 2021, 11:54:41 AM
I watched the David Mitchell one, and on that basis I'm genuinely wondering what this thread is doing in Comedy Chat. I mean, I didn't even think of laughing, at any of it - so I'm forced to conclude that as a comedy it was shit. Coincidentally, I think it would probably also have been shit if it wasn't a comedy.

I'm sure you could have made several different quite good comedies out of the premise here, so it's a bit of a shame these people failed to do so. I won't make an effort to see if the others are any better.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on September 20, 2021, 12:05:21 PM
I enjoyed the David Mitchell one, but it did show him up as a sketch actor compared to the others.

While certainly not one of the best actors around, he's definitely improved from his first TV sketch show. Comparing the first and last episodes of Peep Show highlights this, showing a much more polished and less stilted performance in the latter.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on September 20, 2021, 12:10:04 PM
Yeah, I feel a bit bad for saying that. I'm actually not sure how much it's down to Mitchell's performance compared to how the character is written. It's also comparing him to some great actors.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on September 20, 2021, 12:20:54 PM
Yeah but I get your point. Although I still liked that episode and found it funny.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 20, 2021, 07:39:22 PM
I thought the first episode was no better than ok, but the David Mitchell one was really good. Well, really good for a BBC One Friday night sitcom.

It’s hardly genre-defining comedy, but half an hour of David Mitchell being David Mitchell and Greg Davies being Greg Davies is always going to be fun. I laughed at a lot of it. If it’s supposedly one of the weaker episodes then I’m looking forward to the rest.

I’d bloody love another series of Man Down though. Has that officially been canned? The post-credits cliffhanger at the end of the final series (Dan ending up in prison) suggests Greg wanted to do more, and it felt like it still had plenty of life left in it.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 29, 2021, 07:31:49 PM
I've finished this now and really liked it overall, the bittersweet elements of the final episode especially appealed, but in general I liked the warmth of the series so even if I wasn't laughing out loud I still find myself engaged, it's not perfect but I'd definitely like to see at least one more series.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: rue the polywhirl on September 29, 2021, 08:12:48 PM
I only caught the first two episodes of this and then I forgot about the rest. First one was stronger with the better occasionally amusing guest turn from HBC. Second one with David Mitchell was very tiresome and Mitchell-by-numbers. Would be nice if he had an extra self-reflective moment mid-performance and went ‘hey this same angry rant style that I use in all my panel shows and sitcom appearances is well stale, maybe I should give it a rest or mix it up a little’. Guess you could say I didn’t ‘clean up’ with this series!
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Johnny Yesno on October 05, 2021, 07:31:52 PM
I've seen the first three episodes and I'm finding it hard work, tbh. I've never really liked Davies and this hasn't changed my opinion of him.

I did have concerns it was heading in to Gervais territory initially but the direction it took was both funny and very sweet natured.

I'd say episode 3 is particularly Gervaisian and it's the reason I'll probably bail early. I don't think Davies has the comedic chops to deal with disability - the accidentally-saying-'legs'-when-it's-the-last-thing-I-wanted-to-say-oh-my-days-what-am-I-like-we've-all-been-there bits were embarrassing.

This is more what I was hoping for from a comedy about a crime scene cleaner:

the Kleenrz (Self Jupiter & Kenny Segal) - Filthy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hst2Mbl4QvM

The Kleenrz (Self Jupiter & Kenny Segal) - First48: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VemDOS1-8TA

The Kleenrz "Big Business" (Self Jupiter & Kenny Segal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXe_OPcfGR4

https://selfjupiter3.bandcamp.com/album/the-kleenrz

https://selfjupiter3.bandcamp.com/album/season-two
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: cyanidemint on October 10, 2021, 02:16:20 AM
I only caught the first two episodes of this and then I forgot about the rest. First one was stronger with the better occasionally amusing guest turn from HBC. Second one with David Mitchell was very tiresome and Mitchell-by-numbers. Would be nice if he had an extra self-reflective moment mid-performance and went ‘hey this same angry rant style that I use in all my panel shows and sitcom appearances is well stale, maybe I should give it a rest or mix it up a little’. Guess you could say I didn’t ‘clean up’ with this series!

I thought that one was spoiled by direct translations from German to English. A lot of the jokes didn't really work.
Whoever wrote the script didn't do a very good job.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on October 10, 2021, 07:52:26 AM
I thought that one was spoiled by direct translations from German to English. A lot of the jokes didn't really work.
Whoever wrote the script didn't do a very good job.
^ That would be Greg Davies. Is it *really* a case of just translating the scripts from German to English? In that case, isn't it a bit cheeky to claim a "written by" credit?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on October 10, 2021, 10:13:38 AM
Hey, I've just thought, There's no way that weaker episode of " Inside No.9" episode with Stephanie Cole was translated directly from the German. They'd hardly have some crusty aristocratic woman going round saying what a great bunch of lads Winston Churchill was, would they?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: greencalx on October 10, 2021, 10:39:06 AM
I was more bothered by the fact that his outfit and company logo was different in The Aristocrat. Perhaps this was originally a pilot?
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: dissolute ocelot on October 10, 2021, 10:46:07 AM
Of the 3 I've seen, the eps that work manage to set up a genuine connection between 2 people, despite the oddness and implausibllility; it's gently funny and sometimes a little moving. The David Mitchell one is terrible because Mitchell's character is completely unbelievable, behaving like he's rolling dice to choose his actions and thoughts, and Mitchell can't act well enough to create a believable bond with Greg.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on October 10, 2021, 11:59:18 AM
I was more bothered by the fact that his outfit and company logo was different in The Aristocrat. Perhaps this was originally a pilot?

Yeah, that's a thought. That Policewoman type what last we saw in the first episode was in it too, wasn't she? Mind you , that first episode seems quite piloty too, with the opening being all wrongfootingly serious and dramatic, Are Geoff ( still cannae remember his character's first name) giving the sombre nod to the attendant police officer before entering the kitchen and unleashing the comedy dialogue in his Midlands tones.Something very " opening show" about all that.

The " influencer" episode has been the weakest one for me, Clive.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on October 10, 2021, 01:21:35 PM
For some reason, I flicked through all the episode descriptions of the original German series on IMDB and the only episode of Greg's series with an entirely new plot was... that influencer one. Take from that what you will.

There were some intriguing German plots: one with a ghost, one in which the cleaner enters the mind of a comatose patient and the last episode seems to be set in the afterlife.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: BeardFaceMan on October 10, 2021, 02:34:40 PM
The influencer was by far the worst episode, bordering on unwatchable. It very much felt like an old person's view of what influences are like (and an excuse for Greg in indulge in a load of 80s stuff.)
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: boinks on October 10, 2021, 09:17:26 PM
I pretty much enjoyed all of them, my least favourite being the David Mitchell one, mostly because it was the same intolerant character we've seen him do before and the chemistry between him and Greg just wasn't great - but not surprising really when the character was up and down like a yo yo.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: Jake Thingray on October 10, 2021, 09:25:06 PM
Sorry, I bailed at Helena Bonham Carter

An entirely sensible action.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: MojoJojo on October 11, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
For some reason, I flicked through all the episode descriptions of the original German series on IMDB and the only episode of Greg's series with an entirely new plot was... that influencer one. Take from that what you will.

There were some intriguing German plots: one with a ghost, one in which the cleaner enters the mind of a comatose patient and the last episode seems to be set in the afterlife.

Yeah, I was a bit surprised that episode plots seem to have been mostly lifted, seems a bit weird Greg Davies gets the sole writing credit. Maybe that works differently in Germany or something.

The influencer was by far the worst episode, bordering on unwatchable. It very much felt like an old person's view of what influences are like (and an excuse for Greg in indulge in a load of 80s stuff.)

Nah, it started a bit like that but then it was taking the piss out of Davies for being an out of touch fogey too. It did a good job of humanising the influencer after he's introduced as a ridiculous preening pratt.
Title: Re: Greg Davies Cleans Up
Post by: neveragain on October 11, 2021, 01:11:32 PM
Yeah, I liked the influencer episode. I can't remember exactly what because it's been ages since watching it but there was something at the end about nostalgia that I found quite satisfying (same as the stuff about wanting to leave a mark on the world in the author episode or about clinging to the past in Stephanie Cole's). It's nice to have something that's about something.

On the writing side, I would imagine the dialogue is entirely different. Otherwise a sole writing credit would cause too many problems.