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Title: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 10, 2021, 06:59:34 PM
From Amon Rajan interviewing Andrew Neil.
https://twitter.com/amolrajan/status/1369677163583135744
Quote
Spoke to @afneil
 for well over an hour on Monday. Long version available tomorrow via #THEMEDIASHOW podcast. In an excerpt for our live show 16.30 @BBCRadio4
  he reveals:
  • @GBNEWS HQ is in Paddington
  • Format of his show includes monologue, Wokewatch and Mediawatch
  • Loads more
The longer version is dripping with insight and revelation, including his relationship with Murdoch; the real reason he left the @bbc; where he draws the line on free speech at @spectator, not least for Taki. And a heck of a lot more spicy stuff that i'll tell you about tmrw.

Wokewatch ffs.
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Post by: JamesTC on March 10, 2021, 07:03:30 PM
Can't wait for this to be an unmitigated failure.
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Post by: Cuellar on March 10, 2021, 07:06:06 PM
Gosh can't wait to hear more of the spicy conversation with Andrew Fucking Neil
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Post by: imitationleather on March 10, 2021, 07:08:30 PM
Boomer TV
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Post by: Quote on March 10, 2021, 07:09:07 PM
"Now back, live, to Shropshire where a Union Jack was reported missing from it's designated flagpole at council head office - now we don't know for certain that this was yet another attack on British values by rogue elements of the intolerant, woke left but it seems reasonable to surmise..."
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Post by: pigamus on March 10, 2021, 07:10:06 PM
Can't wait for this to be an unmitigated failure.

I hope you're right
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 10, 2021, 07:16:58 PM
ah yes this sounds like unbiased journalism accompanied by edifying, well-researched opinion pieces
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Post by: bgmnts on March 10, 2021, 07:18:40 PM
Is this just going to be Noel's HQ but for gammons?
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Post by: hamfist on March 10, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
I heard a bit of the interview.

Neil was banging on about voices from the North being given a place to be expressed, to steer away from the metropolitan dominated media.

He was then asked where the channel will be headquartered.

“Paddington”

facepalm dot gif
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 10, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
Is this just going to be Noel's HQ but for gammons?

I hope they bring out the gunge tank for the 'woke' enemy of the week!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 10, 2021, 07:23:12 PM
I heard a bit of the interview.

Neil was banging on about voices from the North being given a place to be expressed, to steer away from the metropolitan dominated media.



Reading between the lines, this means they've given Darren Grimes (boss' son/work experience kid version of PJW) the teaboy job.
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Post by: flotemysost on March 10, 2021, 07:58:07 PM
Love how these thick cunts are now using "woke", a term that originated in Black American vernacular from discourse on racism and social inequality, as if it's part of their own hateful vocabulary - a slightly more racist synonym for "PC".

If there's a weather forecast segment I will be highly disappointed if it doesn't incorporate "snowflake" into the name.
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Post by: bigfatheart on March 10, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
Surely a Mediawatch segment will just show up how little of the media is even remotely left-wing? They'll struggle to get more than five or ten minutes a day.

Or, more likely, it'll be heavyweight 'there's a recipe for avocado on toast in the Guardian!' stuff.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on March 10, 2021, 08:11:56 PM
"We've been outside this Homebase for an hour now and we've not seen one person buy a can of white paint".
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 10, 2021, 08:15:49 PM
be nice if Andrew Neil would just die really. bet he won't though
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 10, 2021, 08:17:38 PM
i always feel obliged to point out that Amol is the lib demmy centrist that Peter Obourne pulled the client journalism banger on in December 2019
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 10, 2021, 08:36:09 PM
be nice if Andrew Neil would just die really. bet he won't though
could we give him a job owning Ben Shapiro over and over
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on March 10, 2021, 10:24:15 PM
Like everyone, hoping this fails. Do people really want to see Neil's sweaty red face as he rants away? On the BBC, his redeeming value was that he was a reasonable political interviewer compared to some of the sycophants and half-wits (that and the fact that he was somewhat restrained by the BBC from getting foam on the camera), but it sounds like he'll ditch the interviews and reporting in favour of saliva-lubed invective. Does anybody, even the reddest gammon, want to hear him ranting about gay kids TV presenters and participation medals? (Other bigots are just better at it, more voice of the people, even occasionally funny.)

Plus everybody is going to be complaining to Ofcom all the time, it will drive him crazy.
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 10, 2021, 10:35:09 PM
could we give him a job owning Ben Shapiro over and over
what about him being owned by those two ten-year-old girls over and over instead
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on March 10, 2021, 10:42:46 PM
Why does anybody think a channel aimed at people who don't like change will convince a group of people who don't like change to change the channel?

They watch BBC One and ITV1. Maybe Channel 4 when the Bake Off is on but they aren't happy about it. They don't even know there are more than four fucking channels.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dothestrand on March 10, 2021, 10:58:20 PM
i always feel obliged to point out that Amol is the lib demmy centrist that Peter Obourne pulled the client journalism banger on in December 2019

That was a terrific and brutal dissection of the profession, but particularly of Rajan himself, the odious creep. No Lib Dem though, wasn't he so far up George Osborne's arse that it was practically a Human Centipede situation?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 10, 2021, 11:10:29 PM
what about him being owned by those two ten-year-old girls over and over instead
why not both?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Midas on March 10, 2021, 11:48:20 PM
Tried to think of something funny to write but this is all so fucking bleak.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Leo2112 on March 11, 2021, 02:16:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/uoPkQq9.png)

Good idea really.  Starve it of the attention.
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Post by: touchingcloth on March 11, 2021, 02:26:40 AM
What's Neil done?
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Post by: Mr Banlon on March 11, 2021, 04:39:12 AM
Is this just going to be Noel's HQ but for gammons?
Triggered ? Happy ! TV
Fucking hell their corporate logo is piss poor.
They've got a Covid-captive audience for the time being. Once things are back to near normal, people are probably fuck the news right off, especially if that 'news' is just angry, offal-faced curmudgeons shit-stirring.
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Post by: pigamus on March 11, 2021, 06:13:41 AM
Why does anybody think a channel aimed at people who don't like change will convince a group of people who don't like change to change the channel?

They watch BBC One and ITV1. Maybe Channel 4 when the Bake Off is on but they aren't happy about it. They don't even know there are more than four fucking channels.

Sounds a bit complacent to be honest.
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Post by: Fry on March 11, 2021, 06:31:07 AM
Whether this shit will live or die is entirely reliant on social media. There needs too be some kind of discipline amongst people to not share videos and images, even if you think you have a great "dunk". Don't play their fucking game.

This will never happen though, if you're the lucky person a well timed retweet or take is an easy 100k likes. When you've got some fucking shit book to shill that's pretty enticing.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: NoSleep on March 11, 2021, 07:21:54 AM
Can't wait for this to be an unmitigated failure.

It doesn't have to succeed by surviving. Just like UKIP succeeded by pushing the Tories further to the right.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2021, 01:24:22 PM
Whether this shit will live or die is entirely reliant on social media. There needs too be some kind of discipline amongst people to not share videos and images, even if you think you have a great "dunk". Don't play their fucking game.

Are you sure about that? If you look at the latest Markle stuff across different ages, it seems to paint a picture of people divided by ages groups, and we know different groups consume news from different places these days with older generations still using news/tv/print and others going online.

Based on this stuff being owned by the media old-guard and whom they're targetting, I think it's going to be more reliant on poaching older reactionary viewers from existing media rather than relying on social media.

Not that not sharing it isn't a bad idea, I just think it's life or death will necessarily depend upon it.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on March 11, 2021, 02:04:12 PM
Quite concerning this could push the media even further to the right. Cant imagine the Mail or Sun could get much more right wing without making the crossword in the shape of a swastikas or something.
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Post by: jobotic on March 11, 2021, 02:10:25 PM
When does this horseshit actually start airing?
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Post by: Mr Banlon on March 11, 2021, 07:01:16 PM
So a news channel with sole purpose of being the news on other news networks. Like someone mentioned earlier, it should just be ignored then.
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Post by: Kankurette on March 11, 2021, 07:07:30 PM
Love how these thick cunts are now using "woke", a term that originated in Black American vernacular from discourse on racism and social inequality, as if it's part of their own hateful vocabulary - a slightly more racist synonym for "PC".

If there's a weather forecast segment I will be highly disappointed if it doesn't incorporate "snowflake" into the name.
Been saying this for ages. It’s depressing how white people have turned it into an insult and a badge of shame.
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 11, 2021, 08:03:44 PM
Why does anybody think a channel aimed at people who don't like change will convince a group of people who don't like change to change the channel?

What percentage of the target audience will even know how to retune their channels?
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 11, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
Also can anyone please explain how this guy got a presenting job at 24?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Harwood

Must have family connections, surely?

Just what the world needs, another university debating society type. A Mini-Milo, great.
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Post by: bgmnts on March 11, 2021, 08:16:00 PM
Quote
Thomas Hedley Fairfax Harwood

Could someone with a name like that NOT be a cunt?
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Post by: Buelligan on March 11, 2021, 08:23:29 PM
He's a vile little Guido cunt.
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Post by: petrilTanaka on March 11, 2021, 08:39:35 PM
Why does anybody think a channel aimed at people who don't like change will convince a group of people who don't like change to change the channel?

They watch BBC One and ITV1. Maybe Channel 4 when the Bake Off is on but they aren't happy about it. They don't even know there are more than four fucking channels.

oh they've never called it ITV1. they think ITV still call it that though and it makes them angry.

they'll watch the generic coverage of people in uniforms at work on Channel 5 now and again too
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 11, 2021, 08:55:28 PM
oh they've never called it ITV1. they think ITV still call it that though and it makes them angry.

they'll watch the generic coverage of people in uniforms at work on Channel 5 now and again too

Internally, different parts of ITV/STV still use 'channel 3' as an umbrella term, sometimes as the main network feed (as in we're not doing a regional variation) but also in market research terms as the public perceive it as a single entity, which it basically is now ITV PLC shored-up most of the regions and homogenised it.
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Post by: Non Stop Dancer on March 11, 2021, 09:03:26 PM
Gammon Bullshit News.
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 11, 2021, 09:14:31 PM
He's a vile little Guido cunt.
via the notoriety he got as making it big as a conservative NUS delegate at Durham basically. Darren Grimes is just a little oik compared to this big fish small pond cunt.

really the right need all the young bootlickers they can get
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Post by: danwho9 on March 12, 2021, 11:33:38 AM
wonder if Sargon of Akkad has been offered a job yet...
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on March 12, 2021, 11:42:02 AM
Thing is, I expect a fair chunk of the people who tune in will do so to get wound up by it. Presumably they'll have call-in shows, and they need calls where someone kicks off so that the presenters have something to react to. Not much long-term future in a channel where everyone is in agreement.

It'd be easy to ignore it, but plenty won't.
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Post by: jobotic on March 12, 2021, 11:49:14 AM
The problem is that it'll be where government ministers choose to go to be interviewed, probably Labour right-wingers too. So it will be the story.
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 12, 2021, 11:55:40 AM
There was another thread recently where someone mentioned a mate or relative or acquaintance who had high blood pressure and whose GP suggested, among other things, not listening to talk radio anymore, and apparently it helped.

I remember when the Bants'n'Syoots biog Finding Freedom came out and I read that quote from Bants, supposedly after reading btl comments about his wife: "Why is everyone so angry?"

Talk radio, btl comments, YouTube Comments, Reddit, Twitter and now GB News. Is there going to be an epidemic of high blood pressure in 20 years' time? In any case I don't think all this negativity is healthy for anyone to get immersed in.
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on March 13, 2021, 01:29:37 AM
they should just show a picture of the Queen for three minutes while blaring patriotic music so the viewers can have a good wank to it
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 13, 2021, 01:47:20 PM
three minutes is a good wank????
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 18, 2021, 06:53:43 PM
Full press release here.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/what-is-gb-news-everything-you-need-to-know/

Andrew fucking Doyle.
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 18, 2021, 06:56:35 PM
Andrew Doyle's let himself go
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Post by: Mike Upchat on March 18, 2021, 07:21:49 PM
Andrew Doyle's let himself go

Should be about 10 months until they let him go.
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Post by: Midas on March 18, 2021, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Cunt
GB News claims it will be Europe’s “most nimble and sophisticated multi-platform broadcast newsroom”.

Europe's?

Quote from: Cunt
As well as broadcasting live to air, they can prepare material across other online platforms including Twitter or Facebook and use immediate tools such as graphics, almost real-time translations, captions and AI-recognition of stored broadcast clips.

Your nimble and sophisticated multi-platform broadcast newsroom sounds SHITE, mate.

Quote from: Cunt
[Andrew] Neil said last year it was aiming for a March 2021 launch but on 18 March the broadcaster said it would be launching “later this year”.

later in the year,
an uninterrupted screech;
squawking old codgers.
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Post by: Bleeding Kansas on March 18, 2021, 10:13:18 PM
Full press release here.

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/what-is-gb-news-everything-you-need-to-know/


Freeview channel 88.
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Post by: JamesTC on March 18, 2021, 10:15:39 PM
Average age of viewer 88.
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Post by: Captain Z on March 18, 2021, 10:18:43 PM
General Bullshit News
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Post by: lazyhour on March 18, 2021, 11:07:41 PM
Guys, they'll have graphics - I say we start taking them seriously.

Well they be advertising-funded? Are there enough companies that won't give a shit about advertising on a blatantly hate-filled channel? I suppose enough of them advertise in the Daily Mail...
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 18, 2021, 11:19:21 PM
Freeview channel 88.

I guess they don't get a choice of number, but that is unfortunate. Ooof.
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Post by: Pinball on March 18, 2021, 11:28:25 PM
Channel 236.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on March 19, 2021, 06:04:49 AM
Guys, they'll have graphics - I say we start taking them seriously.

Not to mention captions!
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on March 19, 2021, 09:35:17 AM
They can also access Twitter and Facebook. Is there anything these mavericks can't do?
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on March 19, 2021, 10:11:03 AM
I think the positive thing to take from this announcement is: who the fuck are all these dweebs? Some people from Sky News which is never knowingly watched outside a hotel lobby, some failed Brexit Party candidates, someone from Guido, someone who won the Apprentice, someone from EuroNews: Dan Wootton from Talkradio is the only vaguely well-known broadcaster, and radio presenters don't always have a great record on TV. Neill is hardly pulling in the big names. Where are Farage or Katie Hopkins or Clarkson?

Also wondering what the station's 70 year old viewers will make of Andrew Doyle making tedious unfunny jokes about non-binary people.
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Post by: petrilTanaka on March 19, 2021, 11:23:37 AM
I think the positive thing to take from this announcement is: who the fuck are all these dweebs? Some people from Sky News which is never knowingly watched outside a hotel lobby, some failed Brexit Party candidates, someone from Guido, someone who won the Apprentice, someone from EuroNews: Dan Wootton from Talkradio is the only vaguely well-known broadcaster, and radio presenters don't always have a great record on TV. Neill is hardly pulling in the big names. Where are Farage or Katie Hopkins or Clarkson?

Also wondering what the station's 70 year old viewers will make of Andrew Doyle making tedious unfunny jokes about non-binary people.

Farage is too desperate and needy to have it not revolve completely around him, so the rest don't want him. plus he drinks in pubs and smokes for the cameras so that's common pleb scum right there
Hopkins is too far gone to remember any limits so will get them fined or off air or ruined in the public eye
Clarkson is probably well over the middle-aged angry ranting phase for the most part, and has enough to not really need them

it's not going to be much of a thing that matters, just a daft vanity hobby for some old guys to pretend they're relevant
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 19, 2021, 11:53:57 AM
Farage's time has come and gone. I was sick of the sight of him years ago but I imagine everyone else is too now. Plus Brexit has happened, he's served his purpose, his attempts to remain in the public eye now just make him look desperate. He's no use to GB News now.

Katie Hopkins would be a liability, too unpredictable and too toxic for a channel trying to gain traction in the mainstream and attract advertisers.

Clarkson is pro-EU, has taken full responsibility for his sacking from the BBC instead of trying to blame "cancel culture", and has done a complete 180 on his climate change denial. He's not bullishly right-wing enough for them. He also isn't a talentless hack, or desperate enough to take a job with GB News.

it's not going to be much of a thing that matters, just a daft vanity hobby for some old guys to pretend they're relevant

I think you're right about this though. I doubt this will have the audience figures and the impact Andrew Neill is hoping for. The whole right-wing grifter thing is in decline now, like Laurence Fox Neill is jumping on the bandwagon as it rolls off a cliff.
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 19, 2021, 12:01:07 PM
Quote
GB News claims it will be Europe’s “most nimble and sophisticated multi-platform broadcast newsroom”.

(https://assets.confidentials.com/uploads/imported/i/LVP/69T6_H.jpg)
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 19, 2021, 12:09:09 PM
^^^ ?????? "Brown bread" as in "dead"?

Channel 236.

Hahahaha, I didn't realise the channel 88 thing was a joke. I genuinely thought it was an unfortunate coincidence, like that time Crispian Mills said some dodgy things about Hitler and tried to backtack in interviews and then Kula Shaker inadvertently released their next single on his birthday.

236? Down there with the fishing shit and the Welsh stuff. Forensic pets and psychic cutlery. Not ideal for a bunch of attention-seekers.
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Post by: JamesTC on March 19, 2021, 12:27:43 PM
The image they use of Paul Staines makes it look like he has a funny hat on.

(https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/guido-team-e1532538376943-524x394.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 19, 2021, 12:36:05 PM
Clarkson's never been or aimed to be serious political commentator in any recent time has he? He's an open tory and reactionary but I figured his articles were tongue in cheek grumpy old man reactionary rants were meant as such. It's mostly crap and not zero cost but I wouldn't see him as a likely contender.
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Post by: idunnosomename on March 19, 2021, 12:44:21 PM
Why dont torys wear ties anymore
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Post by: Captain Z on March 19, 2021, 12:48:22 PM
Why dont torys wear ties anymore

We've all moved on and it's perfectly acceptable in this day and age. Not like three years ago when DISGRACE CORBYN REFUSED to wear one.
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Post by: Blue Jam on March 19, 2021, 12:49:55 PM
Clarkson's never been or aimed to be serious political commentator in any recent time has he? He's an open tory and reactionary but I figured his articles were tongue in cheek grumpy old man reactionary rants were meant as such. It's mostly crap and not zero cost but I wouldn't see him as a likely contender.

He's part of the Chipping Norton set but I don't think he's ever tried to become a political pundit or claimed to be an expert on politics, no.

I think he's genuinely a billion times more interested in cars than politics and actually not outspoken enough on political issues for GB News. He'd have to say something properly offensive to get cancelled, and he probably wouldn't do that because he doesn't give as much of a fuck about politics and he doesn't need the publicity.

On the surface it would seem like Clarkson and Piers Morgan have a lot in common but I really don't think they do. Clarkson is actually a skilled writer and presenter who genuinely knows a lot about his area of interest while Morgan is a hack, and Clarkson is charming and funny in a way Morgan just isn't.

I doubt Clarkson will ever struggle to find work, there'll always be someone who will pay him to write about cars. Maybe he'll mainly be writing about electric cars in the future, but he'll be in demand. Morgan might get a job on GB News but even if it does take off I can't see it being popular for too long, right-wing populism comes and goes in phases and I think people are getting wise to the whole grifter thing now.

Maybe that's just me and my wishful thinking again though. I really want this whole right-wing grifter thing to just die.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 19, 2021, 01:00:58 PM
I think I'd like him a lot more if he just stuck to the car writing, it's the boorish 'worlds gone mad!' articles he does in The Times and The Sun that then get packaged into books that are the most problematic. Although I don't think it's quite the same as alt-right/anti-woke stuff, more of a more outrageous persona that probably came out of him being quite well received on Grumpy Old Men.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on March 19, 2021, 01:15:21 PM
GAS THIS CHANNEL OF CUNTS
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on March 19, 2021, 01:27:36 PM
LBC is already very popular in this area, so whether there’s room in the market I don’t know. Maybe radio works better for this kind of grift because you can get to taxi drivers and white van man and so on. But if it’s on Freeview... well. Who knows. This is Johnson’s Britain after all.
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Post by: Paul Calf on March 19, 2021, 01:34:16 PM
The image they use of Paul Staines makes it look like he has a funny hat on.

(https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/guido-team-e1532538376943-524x394.jpg)

I wonder if he regrets the time he spent profiting from an industry that relies on the sale and use of illegal drugs?

https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Paul_Staines

EDIT: also, is that a Mallon streak?
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Post by: Kankurette on March 19, 2021, 02:53:33 PM
Clarkson also voted Remain.
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Post by: Midas on March 19, 2021, 02:58:17 PM
Channel 236.

Tragic channel number.

Imagine a feeble, doddering geriatric. The scraps of a Christmas turkey. A crumpled page from The People's Friend that's been wrapped around some twigs.

In leathery hands he covets his television remote. He jams the numbers down with trembling fingers, peers at the distant screen with gangrenous desire and watches helplessly with disappointment as his television jumps to channel '23' and then to '6'.

Again and again, for the rest of his life.
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on March 19, 2021, 03:14:23 PM
The image they use of Paul Staines makes it look like he has a funny hat on.

(https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/guido-team-e1532538376943-524x394.jpg)

I was so distracted by the guy on the left being some kind of miniaturised, Bullingdon Club version of Michael McIntyre that I didn’t even notice that.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on March 19, 2021, 03:15:07 PM
I think I'd like him a lot more if he just stuck to the car writing, it's the boorish 'worlds gone mad!' articles he does in The Times and The Sun that then get packaged into books that are the most problematic.

Yes, I'm not into that stuff at all, I guess it makes him easy money but I can't see it's worth. It's the non-fiction equivalent of the airport novel, something gammons can buy from the airside WH Smith because they forgot to pack any books and they can't be doing with those new-fangled e-readers.

Seeing him on the Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? reboot though I was surprised at how good he was as a presenter. I had thought him an odd choice but he nailed that Chris Tarrant thing of being poker-faced and never making the contestants feel stupid, not giving the game away or breaking the tension. He was also nicely self-deprecating with the "Ask The Host" lifeline that was introduced in the reboot. I was thinking about this recently while watching Gordon Ramsay's Bank Balance, noting Ramsay was unable to keep a straight face or stop himself making the contestants feel stupid. That certainly was an odd choice of host. You would never have had Brucie or even Barrymore doing that. That stuff's harder than it looks.

With Piers Morgan I'm surprised at how much work he's managed to get interviewing people despite being terrible at it. I'm not sure how he was ever considered for Britain's Got Talent either- I remember one review saying "Simon Cowell makes you boo and hiss and then want to go down the pub with him, Piers Morgan just makes you boo and hiss", a bit like Steve Fleming's quote from The Thick Of It.

Also I saw it noted that Piers Morgan's Daily Mail columns were the kind of clickbait that invited people to boo and hiss in the btl comments, and the readers loved to hate him until he started all this Meghan Markle stuff, when the comments suddenly went from "Bore off, Piers" to "He's just saying what we're all thinking".

Could he be made GB News' Royal Correspondent? Oh gawd.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on March 19, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
Yeah I was going to describe them as 'fathers day books', I imagine lots of them remain unread.

I'd forgotten he was on the Millionaire reboot.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on March 19, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
Unread beside the toilet. Yes, "Fathers' Day Books" is a fair description too. Given as a gift along with a card with a golfer on it or a fart joke or a pint of beer because that's what dads like isn't it fuckit this'll do.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Farenheit on March 19, 2021, 05:15:52 PM
Quote
“I want to stop people being left behind. We need a levelling up across the country – there’s more to the UK than London"

“They also share our vision to reach out to non-metropolitan audiences beyond London and engage them in our national conversation.”

“GB News will be staunchly independent. That is our point. Our investors know this, our journalists will know it and so will our viewers. We aim to serve British communities who feel poorly represented by mainstream television media, especially outside London."


Where will GB News be based?
The GB News headquarters will be in Paddington, London.


Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on March 30, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
I won't link to it, but Dan Wooton has just written a rant about how the woke brigade are killing free speech is "the biggest issue of our time", in his new column for the Daily Mail, ahead of starting his job as a presenter on GB News. Some silencing and deplatforming that is.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on March 30, 2021, 04:09:50 PM
I reckon Murdoch's new channel, UK News TV, is going to be more of a concern.

GB News will probably make a splash initially but then the economics of it will start to be a problem, especially as it's a stand-alone operation and unlike Fox News and the like in the US it won't be able to rely on pay TV subscription revenue. It'll probably then get watered down and absorbed into co-owners Discovery, who despite their chief shareholder's political views won't want it to be that radical to avoid the reputation risk to their other properties.

Murdoch though has deep pockets and won't care if it runs at a loss for a long time, has years of experience with Fox News (the boss of the new channel is the former Fox News VP), the ability to share costs and staff with his UK papers and political connections he can be certain will do his bidding. Unlike GB News it's going to be available via a TV app rather than on Freeview, cable or satellite which I think puts it under a different Ofcom regulation regime meaning it may not be subject to the same impartiality regulations.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: An tSaoi on March 30, 2021, 04:34:30 PM
Clarkson also voted Remain.

Not only voted Remain, but also made a video promoting Remain:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drlJ2jgn4LE

It must be a rare genuinely-held position, because being a remainer would be very unpopular with a lot of Top Gear types, and it would have been much easier for him to adopt a Brexit persona to appease his fans. Fair play to him I suppose.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dissolute ocelot on March 30, 2021, 05:10:36 PM
Clarkson's never been or aimed to be serious political commentator in any recent time has he? He's an open tory and reactionary but I figured his articles were tongue in cheek grumpy old man reactionary rants were meant as such. It's mostly crap and not zero cost but I wouldn't see him as a likely contender.
Clarkson has made some dubious comments about immigrants (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/25/top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-biggest-controversies-quotes) and had a history of mildly racist jokes, as well as the usual right-wing moaning about strikers, trade unions, cyclists, etc. Here's an archive of his Sunday Times columns (https://forums.finalgear.com/threads/clarksons-sunday-times-columns.61935/) - he does seem to delight in saying offensive things and then turning it around, so that it's not clear where he really stands on an issue. He goes on about how trans people aren't really a significant issue just children pretending and the figures are made up, then says, but I'm sure it's really awful for the one genuinely trans person in Britain and we should be nice to them. He mocks the youth of today, then goes into "but we were the same when we were young". He'll ventriloquise anti-immigrant sentiment and then disappear in a completely different direction, occasionally to mildly humorous effect.

Anyway, he's far too successful for GB News.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on March 30, 2021, 07:02:47 PM
I won't link to it, but Dan Wooton has just written a rant about how the woke brigade are killing free speech is "the biggest issue of our time", in his new column for the Daily Mail, ahead of starting his job as a presenter on GB News. Some silencing and deplatforming that is.
The woke brigade aren’t the ones trying to ban people from protesting.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 16, 2021, 07:43:11 PM
Another dickhead added to the roster!

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1383086718614712323

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzG1q5AXAAMkrEo?format=png&name=900x900)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzG17YFWEAI31bh?format=png&name=900x900)

Still no sign of Grimey, despite him practically begging though: https://twitter.com/Meat__Hook/status/1362685635161690112
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 16, 2021, 07:51:37 PM
Darren Grimes is very much the UK’s Milo. “Cheers for the help, but you’re a fucking oik. You don’t belong in Chipping Norton, fuck off.”
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Post by: katzenjammer on April 16, 2021, 07:55:43 PM
The very definition of a useful idiot
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 16, 2021, 07:55:53 PM
Darren Grimes is very much the UK’s Milo. “Cheers for the help, but you’re a fucking oik. You don’t belong in Chipping Norton, fuck off.”

I've said this multiple times on here but I reckon he's the work-experience-kid/boss' son version of Paul Joseph Watson.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on April 16, 2021, 08:02:39 PM
Unread beside the toilet. Yes, "Fathers' Day Books" is a fair description too. Given as a gift along with a card with a golfer on it or a fart joke or a pint of beer because that's what dads like isn't it fuckit this'll do.
Mine's dead but yeah, he wouldn't have liked most Fathers' Day cards. He wasn't into golf, football was more his thing, and Mum is the DIY expert in the family. I think he'd have disowned me if I'd have given him a 'Fathers' Day book', raging lefty that he was.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 16, 2021, 08:15:50 PM
So how fresh will the perspectives of GB News be compared to the right-wing voices of the Sun, Telegraph, Mail, Express, Times, Guido Fawkes etc, Mr Oliver?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on April 16, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
Dan Wooton always looks like a porn star to me.

And not like a gay porn star or anything, one of those horrible ones that calls the ladies lots of rude words
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 18, 2021, 02:09:42 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/voqgDj9.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on April 18, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
ka-ching! so much for Leveson 2 eh.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: SpiderChrist on April 18, 2021, 03:26:23 PM
Do you think if more people had told Tom Watson to fuck off, that he'd be less of a cunt?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on April 18, 2021, 08:56:30 PM
Yeah I saw that Tom Watson twitter post earlier. Seems very naive of him, especially since we know who's funding this new channel. It sounds genuinely dangerous from a public health messaging point of view to have this channel starting at the moment. Its clearly going to be the go to channel for covid deniers everywhere and you just know that their covid cynicism is going to be fuelled by covid deniers like Neil Oliver and Dan Wootton, and all the rest presumably.

I noticed a few people on Twitter commentating that Neil Oliver appears to be fairly happy about committing career suicide as a BBC history presenter. Presumably his BBC career will be quickly over once he starts broadcasting the sort of anti covid stuff he frequently mouths off about on twitter.

My prediction is the channel will start off by being relatively moderate, just to test the waters to see how far it can push things, bill will fairly quickly turn into a total cess pit of Fox news proportions.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dissolute ocelot on April 19, 2021, 08:14:50 PM
So is that old media whore Watson on the payroll yet? Is he going to be the Fox News style token liberal?

Neil Oliver, though, what a cunt. He seems the perfect companion for Andrew Neil, a Scot who doesn't believe the Scots deserve any democracy, and a defender of the British Empire against the evils of BLM. But oh that flowing hair, the trichological conversations he and Brillo will have! Maybe Andrew wants to steal his hair.

I would never advocate bombing the headquarters of any media organisation, but if they had a bad infestation of wasps or hornets, it would be well deserved.
My prediction is the channel will start off by being relatively moderate, just to test the waters to see how far it can push things, bill will fairly quickly turn into a total cess pit of Fox news proportions.
That would be the sensible long-term plan, but I imagine it'll try and rush for viewers with a ton of controversy. Even if its backers were willing to fund it for years, Andrew Neil would never be happy to helm something with 500 viewers each bedecked with a "Do Not Resuscitate" ticket.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on April 27, 2021, 01:33:07 PM
Murdoch has killed off his News UK TV channel having decided it's not commercially viable. Thought that was going to be the one of the two that had a better chance of surviving.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Culture Bunker on April 27, 2021, 01:35:49 PM
Wonder if that news will make the GB News mob a bit nervous? Would be amusing if after a while the money men behind it all tell Neill and his cronies "look, drop the 'woke watch' shit, ok? You need to broaden the appeal".
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on April 27, 2021, 01:48:26 PM
Just seen this:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1385571938261741570

A plug for Alexandra Phillips' article on a malaria vaccine. An ENGLISH vaccine developed by an ENGLISH team:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/23/st-george-jab-covid-malaria-little-old-england-saving-lives/

She also cites television and the telephone as great ENGLISH innovations, but whatever, the very Torygraph article she links to shows that the malaria vaccine is a big international effort:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/oxford-team-behind-covid-jab-develops-landmark-malaria-vaccine/

...and at least two of the team are Irish, and the work was funded by commercial partners in India, plus a grant from the EU:

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-04-23-malaria-vaccine-becomes-first-achieve-who-specified-75-efficacy-goal

Oh yes, and the flag-shagging comments are making me nauseous.

Sorry, just pissed off at people not acknowedging that science is a big international effort and taking these tiny-minded attitudes.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ignatius_S on April 27, 2021, 01:49:26 PM
Wonder if that news will make the GB News mob a bit nervous? Would be amusing if after a while the money men behind it all tell Neill and his cronies "look, drop the 'woke watch' shit, ok? You need to broaden the appeal".

The news has raised that question, but I wonder if it can be seen a less competition for GB News in some ways.

It’s been reported that News UK internal memos said there were concerns about the return on investment for shareholders, so it might be that the channel is felt not commercially viable because of the scale of profit, rather than concerns that it won’t be profitable.

News UK will now be looking to provide on-demand and live content for streaming services, which the radio arm has had success with, so sounds like they’re be adapting a business model that has been working and requires less resources than a TV channel.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on April 27, 2021, 01:52:17 PM
This reminds me of Times Radio where it was like a year of "THRILLED to be joining @TimesRadio" then when it finally launched they had one cockup that got them trending and then nobody listened to it
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on April 27, 2021, 01:52:43 PM
They do know Alexander Graham Bell was a Scot?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on April 27, 2021, 01:59:42 PM
ITV / ITN couldn't make a go of a rolling news channel and that was piggybacking on existing people and facilities and at a time when linear channels were more viable. GB News have to make it work on their own and with only advertising, not pay TV revenue.

Would be quite funny now if GB News decided they couldn't make a go of it either, leaving a large number of right-wing presenters with no platform. The delay in their launch could indicate deeper problems with the project.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Culture Bunker on April 27, 2021, 02:02:43 PM
Would be quite funny now if GB News decided they couldn't make a go of it either, leaving a large number of right-wing presenters with no platform. The delay in their launch could indicate deeper problems with the project.
I have no doubt if this happens, it will all have been the fault of sabotage by "the intolerant left".
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on April 27, 2021, 02:03:13 PM
They do know Alexander Graham Bell was a Scot?

She could have added antibiotics to the list but didn't, that's something I guess.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on April 27, 2021, 02:08:17 PM
I have no doubt if this happens, it will all have been the fault of sabotage by "the intolerant left".

It could easily be blamed on Stop Funding Hate and advertisers being too frightened of "the wokerati" to advertise with them, and a lot of people would happily buy it.

Bit like the Co-op announcing they would no longer be advertising in The Spectator and Andrew Neill telling them "Yeah, well I didn't want your smelly adverts anyway":

https://mobile.twitter.com/afneil/status/1301822074982404096?lang=en
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on April 27, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
ITV / ITN couldn't make a go of a rolling news channel and that was piggybacking on existing people and facilities

There's always Gaunty's shed.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on April 29, 2021, 08:50:34 AM
The scambusiness model is OnlyFans for the anti-woke:

Quote
GB News, in its base case, expects £40m revenue in its fifth year. Roughly a third of that is to come straight from 134,000 paying “members” given access to on-air talent, forums and exclusive content.

That member base exceeds the average of 111,000 viewers GB News expects across the day (it aims to roughly match Sky News’s audience share). Executives, in essence, see the business as a digital platform with a TV station attached.

The model is similar to Fox Nation, a subscription-funded streaming offshoot for Fox News devotees. That venture is still testing what a digital future might look like for Fox News if cable television’s decline rapidly accelerates. GB News, as a start-up, will need to make much faster progress.

https://www.ft.com/content/32078324-d4b5-44a9-b457-b3184c54b8bc
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on April 29, 2021, 08:57:11 AM
I can pay extra to have access to the talent?

Nah, you're alright mate.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Paul Calf on April 29, 2021, 09:19:48 AM
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"This is digital radio. Repeat: this is digital radio. Do you read me, North Norfolk? Do you read me?"

"Alan, they read you," said a voice in my cans.

 "Prepare your psyche for a new listening experience."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on April 29, 2021, 09:59:16 AM
Imagine what their forums would be like.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 11, 2021, 05:28:51 PM
This is supposed to launch Sunday.

I sort-of know someone who works in broadcast for a company that distribute for pretty much everyone. Stuff is still not configured and as of 4pm on a Friday they allegedly have no presentation.

Said guy is now in the position where they're going to have to do overtime on something they are morally opposed to.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on June 11, 2021, 05:43:47 PM
Exclusive sneak preview!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKHMnL4ckls
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 11, 2021, 05:43:52 PM
Apparently GB News are going to broadcast via radio as well.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 11, 2021, 05:51:43 PM
Apparently GB News are going to broadcast via radio as well.

Presumably this was a decision made after Murdoch/Rebekah Brookes decided to sack off the TV idea and focus on Times Radio and podcast content.

Keeping their fingers in the pie if the tv thing doesn't pan out maybe?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Dog on June 11, 2021, 08:40:20 PM
She could have added antibiotics to the list but didn't, that's something I guess.

(https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S1369527419300190-gr1.jpg)

German  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ehrlich (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ehrlich) invented the concept of antibiotics, and his team (actually a Japanese man) found the first one (Salvarsan, a cure for syphilis).

The first really successful broad spectrum antibiotics were the sulfonamides:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfonamide_(medicine) (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfonamide_(medicine)). These were discovered by a German working for a German company in Germany (
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prontosil (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prontosil)).

Sometimes people don’t refer to these as antibiotics, because they are synthetic rather than naturally occurring chemicals. The first naturally occurring antibiotic was penicillin. Penicillin was discovered loads of times for hundreds of years by ancient Greeks, Indians, Poles, the French, and probably many others before it was finally discovered by Alexander Fleming. He basically ignored his discovery and didn’t have much to do with its use as a drug ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_penicillin  (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_penicillin)).

That’s why the Nobel prize for penicillin (the second
Nobel prize for antibiotics) went to two British men and an Australian. They were able to make the drug, but in order to make it in industrial quantities (which is, you know, important) they had to get help from Americans.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Dog on June 11, 2021, 08:44:49 PM
Also, John Logie Baird’s TV was absolute shit. It would need a big cardboard disc the size of a wardrobe spinning at close to the speed of sound in order to transmit about 30 lines of shadow. Mechanical TV was a stupid laughable idea. Proper electronic TV (CRT TV) was invented by a whole bunch of people from all around the world, but modern TVs don’t work that way either.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 11, 2021, 08:51:10 PM
Yeah there was no way Baird was going to win compared to the 405-line system.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Butchers Blind on June 13, 2021, 09:12:43 AM
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19 (https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19)

See, diversity. All is welcome at GB News.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 13, 2021, 09:50:39 AM
They going to discuss anything other than footballers kneeling and racist cricketers? (Laurence) Fox News

Cunts
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 13, 2021, 10:16:48 AM
WOW A WHOLE FIVE PEOPLE OF COLOUR sandwiched in between little white blonde girls, union jacks, a bulldog and some saintly old (white) people
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: paruses on June 13, 2021, 11:22:46 AM
This tweet reply was behind a sensitive content warning. Assume the AI would do badly in a Rorshach test

https://twitter.com/thebakeryunit/status/1402264763456016390?s=20

Further down i see Michelle Apprentice on a publicity shot behind Weetabix head. Is that her thing? An acceptabke Katie Hopkins?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 13, 2021, 11:25:46 AM
Will Julia H-B join GB News? Looking at what she tweets, she seems like she'd fit in there well.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: paruses on June 13, 2021, 11:26:56 AM
I meant Shredded Wheat
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on June 13, 2021, 11:31:46 AM
Will Julia H-B join GB News? Looking at what she tweets, she seems like she'd fit in there well.

She's part of the Murdoch mob so on TalkRadio. GB News are more the Telegraph extended family.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 13, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19 (https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19)

See, diversity. All is welcome at GB News.
that looks like they just stuck a bunch of photos into a movie maker and set it to default Ken Burns. Some of them arent even full frame
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 13, 2021, 11:47:06 AM


Further down i see Michelle Apprentice on a publicity shot behind Weetabix head. Is that her thing? An acceptabke Katie Hopkins?

Sort of. She's very pro brexit and a tory so she'll fit right in. Apparently she was one of the ones complaining about how Neil was behaving on set, not sure how much truth there was to any of it though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 13, 2021, 01:24:59 PM
This tweet reply was behind a sensitive content warning. Assume the AI would do badly in a Rorshach test

https://twitter.com/thebakeryunit/status/1402264763456016390?s=20
More Tweets

Queen-wanking

Orange bastards

Orange bastards

Fair and balanced reporting

Some rando and his mates

Orange bastard

Orange bastard
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 13, 2021, 08:13:24 PM
Jesus, it looks even worse than I thought.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3yPAcpXMAIGZsn?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 13, 2021, 08:14:31 PM
Debate? You mean like one-sided debates where anyone remotely liberal is shouted down?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 13, 2021, 08:26:41 PM
This is going to absolutely tank isn't it? Its set up entirely to appeal to a demographic that isn't nearly as big as brillo pad a co think it to be.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: thenoise on June 13, 2021, 08:58:42 PM
Fair debate between one man sitting behind a big desk like a big headmaster and a long haired scruff sitting in a child's chair with his back to the camera. I wonder which one we are supposed to agree with?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 13, 2021, 09:03:19 PM
This is going to absolutely tank isn't it? Its set up entirely to appeal to a demographic that isn't nearly as big as brillo pad a co think it to be.

It might tank because it’s shit, but it’s a bit wishful thinking to say the demographic isn’t there.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: buttgammon on June 13, 2021, 09:03:28 PM
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"Welcome to GB News: news, opinion and debate for all the United Kingdom"

As someone who lives in Ireland, I'm duty-bound to point out that Great Britain and the UK aren't the same thing.
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on June 13, 2021, 09:06:51 PM
Fair debate between one man sitting behind a big desk like a big headmaster and a long haired scruff sitting in a child's chair with his back to the camera. I wonder which one we are supposed to agree with?

Is the long haired scruff not the increasingly barmy and right-wing TV archaeologist/historian and lockdown sceptic Neil Oliver?

If so, the only debate was probably how big a Union Jack every building in the UK should be flying.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 13, 2021, 09:13:04 PM
lmao youtubers have better sets than that
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 13, 2021, 09:14:59 PM
It might tank because it’s shit, but it’s a bit wishful thinking to say the demographic isn’t there.

I'm not saying its not there but I'm saying its possible its not there in the numbers to sustain what I'm guessing is going to be quite an expensive channel to run. It'll have its hardcore libertarian, anti snowflake, anti woke audience for sure. I just have my doubts that audience is quite as big as brillo and co hope it is.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on June 13, 2021, 09:15:11 PM
Why are they broadcasting from Doctor Who Season 18?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 13, 2021, 09:16:24 PM
sure many of you know this ever-interesting glutton for punishment but worth looking at his bit by bit on this. usual grifting lefty-identifying chew-toys popping up

https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1404144841831890953
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: An tSaoi on June 13, 2021, 09:27:51 PM
The set looks like a shipping container.

Have they tried to go for a sleek, minimalist, night-mode modern style? And if so, why?

They should have gone old school. Leather wingbacks and a globe drinks cabinet. Old naval maps on the wall. Drawing room in a manor house vibe.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on June 13, 2021, 09:29:54 PM
That desk is just asking for a ‘medium fry-up man’ photoshop.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: An tSaoi on June 13, 2021, 09:39:20 PM
I like the large print ticker tape at the bottom. A wise move considering the audience.

Edit: Do you even call those scrolling news things ticker tapes? Now I'm the old man!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 13, 2021, 09:49:08 PM
The set looks like a shipping container.



Brillo is broadcasting GB News from his comfy home in the South of France apparently so presumably its something knocked up in his back yard. 
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Post by: An tSaoi on June 13, 2021, 09:51:28 PM
France? The turncoat.

In North Korea, anyone who leaves the country is considered a traitor. Perhaps Brexit Britain can adopt the same policy.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on June 13, 2021, 11:40:03 PM
Is it 24hr or do they power down at midnight to save on costs?
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 13, 2021, 11:51:52 PM
neil looks like he's going to go scanners. keep on that PVR record
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Post by: Chairman Yang on June 14, 2021, 12:01:10 AM
Maybe tomorrow someone will have bought a second lamp.
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 12:06:30 AM
Watching a replay of the launch.

Jesus this opening speech by Brillo goes on a bit doesn't it?
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Post by: chveik on June 14, 2021, 12:13:08 AM
Andrew Neil is giving a bad name to suidae
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Post by: monkfromhavana on June 14, 2021, 08:18:13 AM
This is going to absolutely tank isn't it? Its set up entirely to appeal to a demographic that isn't nearly as big as brillo pad a co think it to be.

Probably survive by creating loads of bullshit that creates lots of retweets, hits etc online.
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Post by: pigamus on June 14, 2021, 08:29:05 AM
I noticed LBC has upped its advertising - it’s on buses all over Birmingham. Remarkable how that’s gone from a London radio station to a kind of Fox News Radio UK - my dad listens to it all day long. That’s Andrew Neil’s biggest problem I think - they’ve got LBC, do they really need GB News?
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Post by: mobias on June 14, 2021, 08:48:29 AM
Probably survive by creating loads of bullshit that creates lots of retweets, hits etc online.

Thats what the Guardian point out today with their revue https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/jun/13/gb-news-review-andrew-neils-alternative-bbc-utterly-deadly-stuff

I think that revue is possibly correct in pointing out there though that brillo pad, Oliver and co probably feel they're a bit above being wanting to be seen as merely a right wing click bait channel. Then again maybe not....
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 14, 2021, 09:05:11 AM
They may see themselves now as some kind of "crusaders for truth" or some other hogwash, but if keeping the station going means they have to resort to screaming "LEFTIES want to take away YOUR CHILDREN and have them adopted by MUSLIMS!", then they will. The alternative is to be seen as a bunch of planks who were part of a failed idea.
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Post by: Registering to lurk on June 14, 2021, 09:22:38 AM
The alternative is to be seen as a bunch of planks who were part of a failed idea.

TVAM the sequel, with Andrew Neil as David Frost.
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Post by: steve98 on June 14, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Andrew Neil's hair looks nothing like a Brillo pad - Never has done. It's not square, it's not made of woven metal, it doesn't rust, it isn't impregnated with pink soap, and it won't shift baked-on grime.
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Post by: Pinball on June 14, 2021, 09:45:10 AM
LBC TV. Surprised that didn't happen.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 11:20:56 AM
lol it seems like Sugar wasn't gammony enough for them.

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This Alan Sugar interview isn't going according to plan for #GBNews.

Called Brexit a mess
Said England players should be allowed to take the knee if they want
Slated the S*n
And said Johnson just needs to tell the country the truth.

Wooton out of his depth here

https://twitter.com/digyerownhole/status/1404186218053750785
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Post by: ASFTSN on June 14, 2021, 11:27:55 AM
I noticed LBC has upped its advertising - it’s on buses all over Birmingham. Remarkable how that’s gone from a London radio station to a kind of Fox News Radio UK - my dad listens to it all day long. That’s Andrew Neil’s biggest problem I think - they’ve got LBC, do they really need GB News?

It's been like that for around 10 years though, some of the stuff I heard on there when my housemate used to inexplicably listen to it was dire. I still remember one of the hosts openly talking about how asian men with "thin beards" were "gay boys".
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
Yeah you can tell it's a conscious decision to branch out as if you go online it asks you where you live when trying to stream it.

That most likely means they're running local/national ad campaigns.
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Post by: An tSaoi on June 14, 2021, 11:35:17 AM
That’s Andrew Neil’s biggest problem I think - they’ve got LBC, do they really need GB News?

To make matters even more bizarre, they're planning on launching a GB News radio station if the TV station goes well. Surely that's would be exactly like LBC.
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Post by: Kankurette on June 14, 2021, 11:38:16 AM
lol it seems like Sugar wasn't gammony enough for them.

https://twitter.com/digyerownhole/status/1404186218053750785
Now that surprises me, in a good way.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 14, 2021, 11:41:50 AM
To make matters even more bizarre, they're planning on launching a GB News radio station if the TV station goes well. Surely that's would be exactly like LBC.
its probably going to launch in July, but it's just going to be a simulcast of the TV audio. Which sounds bizarre and shit.
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Post by: Zetetic on June 14, 2021, 11:43:29 AM
But extremely low effort. I'm guessing you can put any old shit out via DAB then?
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Post by: RicoMNKN on June 14, 2021, 11:54:16 AM
Saw quite a few of their audience on Twitter shouting "triggered!" at anyone even slightly bemused by how shit it was.

It felt like what they are after is the reaction, not the content.  Which (if it happens) will happen on Twitter, as opposed to LBC / Talk Radio where you get the live reaction with the callers, and so actually have a reason to listen live if you have anger issues and want to project.
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Post by: Kankurette on June 14, 2021, 11:58:04 AM
Saw quite a few of their audience on Twitter shouting "triggered!" at anyone even slightly bemused by how shit it was.

It felt like what they are after is the reaction, not the content.  Which (if it happens) will happen on Twitter, as opposed to LBC / Talk Radio where you get the live reaction with the callers, and so actually have a reason to listen live if you have anger issues and want to project.
Shitting hell. Being annoyed at something is not the same as having an actual trigger.

I suspect they know that though.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 11:59:41 AM
But extremely low effort. I'm guessing you can put any old shit out via DAB then?

It's kind of like the opposite of LBC/Talk Radio where they do the 'visual' part (probably just for social media most of the time) by having a fixed camera in the studio and slapping some rolling news idents over it.
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Post by: olliebean on June 14, 2021, 12:16:20 PM
The set looks like a shipping container.

Well, it worked for Novara.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on June 14, 2021, 12:22:13 PM
Amazing review in the Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/gb-news-launch-night-review-first-show-beset-glitches-message/) which somehow judges its opening night was  brilliant and 4/5 stars despite a litany of technical flaws and cock-ups
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The sound was often out of sync, one presenter suffered a microphone failure, Sir Alan Sugar disappeared one word into his interview and the sets looked as if they had been hastily cobbled together (which, of course, they have been). However, at this early stage the glitches may well have boosted GB News’s cause, giving more credence to the idea that they are “disruptors”, outsiders taking on the slick establishment. The BBC doesn’t have glitches.
Looking for the positives there. Also
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The introductory hour was hamstrung by the fact that most presenters could only talk in vague soundbites and sentiment
And they weren't keen on the big evening show from Dan Wootton who was failing to provide the requisite serious news values:
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Wootton will have scared a few nervous horses.
Even they gave the morning show 1/5:
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the sound on The Great British Breakfast was so comically bad it was often hard to hear anyone; the outside broadcasts were beset by glitches and amateurish pieces to camera out of synch. The contrast with the breezily (forcefully) enthusiastic delivery of the presenters was so marked I was left hammering the volume up and down on the remote like a demented gamer.

But GB News was playing for real; breakfast time is the battleground on which any new station must fight for ratings and we were assured it would be appointment television. Truthfully the only less palatable appointment I can imagine would be a root canal. Regardless of where you sat on the political spectrum this was unutterably awful; boring, repetitive and cheapskate.
Does this mean that after 1 night it's already all over?

Jesus, it looks even worse than I thought.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3yPAcpXMAIGZsn?format=jpg&name=large)
Thought Neil Oliver wasn't wearing any trousers for a moment there. That would have brought in the female viewers.
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Post by: lipsink on June 14, 2021, 01:15:30 PM
Now that people who moan about not having a voice definitely have a voice I guess they'll stop moaning about not having a voice. Oh wait, no they won't, will they? This channel will just them moaning about not having a voice.
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Post by: steve98 on June 14, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
They've employed him for his name: "Oliver" works very well as part of a programme's title. For example: "Oliver's Army" - News about the army, presented by Oliver, "Oliver's Amy" (same idea), "Oliver's Oliviers" - News from Theatreland, read by Oliver, and so on.
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 14, 2021, 01:23:36 PM
Surely most people who watch breakfast TV watch it because they like light stuff, they like Phil and Holly chatting and having a laugh. Uplifting, life-affirming stuff. Not doommonger twats screaming about how Black Lives Matter want to travel back in time and murder Queen Victoria.
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Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 14, 2021, 01:37:06 PM
I just tuned in for half an hour and it's just... nothing. I don't really see the point in it. The news ticker has got a couple of stories about taking the knee, but on-screen they're having chummy chats about absolutely nothing with the local reporters and someone who owns a cafe on next road over from where one of the presenters lives. It's all just incredibly gentle. I suspect it might find its feet and do reasonably well in the lounges of retirement homes, but there's nothing here for your racist brother-in-law who wants to trigger the woke left.

Maybe things will get a bit meatier in the evening, but Dan Wootton is incompetent and surely won't appeal to the Telegraph readers the channel wants to attract. So they're probably banking on Andrew Neil, but who's going to tune in to watch him every night?

And I know they'll get the technical problems sorted but it's really fucking funny how shit it is at the moment.

Two honey roasted gammon joints out of five.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 14, 2021, 01:51:46 PM
This is the sort of fine Englishman GB News is made for.

https://twitter.com/craig_dw/status/1404388962941259780?s=19

THIS IDEOLOGY WEAK AND UNPATRIOTIC!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

(incidentally this is one of the funniest things ive ever seen because of the live laugh love decor)
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 01:56:52 PM
Oh man that wallpaper.
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Post by: lipsink on June 14, 2021, 02:18:40 PM
I've watched a bit and God it's so fucking lifeless. If it's just everyone agreeing with each other then I can't really see how it's going to appeal to yer gammons on Twitter. That's what they thrive on isn't it? "Libtards" like Owen Jones getting "owned". I can't see people like Bastani or Jones going on it.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 14, 2021, 02:40:28 PM
I've watched a bit and God it's so fucking lifeless. If it's just everyone agreeing with each other then I can't really see how it's going to appeal to yer gammons on Twitter. That's what they thrive on isn't it? "Libtards" like Owen Jones getting "owned". I can't see people like Bastani or Jones going on it.

They should do an invasion like on the wrestling. Turn up at MediaCity in a tank and challenge Charlie Stayt and Lorraine Kelly to a fight in the carpark.
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Post by: pigamus on June 14, 2021, 02:42:27 PM
Sounds like L!ve TV except with racism
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Post by: lipsink on June 14, 2021, 02:50:21 PM
I'm looking forward to the Novara Media review of it tonight.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 14, 2021, 02:58:25 PM
They should do an invasion like on the wrestling. Turn up at MediaCity in a tank and challenge Charlie Stayt and Lorraine Kelly to a fight in the carpark.

Or they could fight the BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Sky News teams like in Anchorman.
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Post by: Kelvin on June 14, 2021, 03:00:43 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence. Novara Media doing a review may be relevant, insightful or amusing, but it also increases the chance of it taking off. For it to succeed, it requires the left to react and the right to push back.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 03:06:53 PM
Sounds like L!ve TV except with racism

And worse weather reporting.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 14, 2021, 03:08:29 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence. Novara Media doing a review may be relevant, insightful or amusing, but it also increases the chance of it taking off. For it to succeed, it requires the left to react and the right to push back.
There's always the risk that giving it attention just provides ammo for "the triggered left don't like us speaking the TRUTH!" type arguments that make it seem more appealing to the target audience.

I'm sure they'll eventually find some Labour MP to go on and do a hit-piece on Corbyn and the left in general, with an approving Neil giving it "this is the acceptable face of the Labour party" and explaining how his show has "balance" because of showing it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 03:13:11 PM
I think it's naive to assume whether it succeeds will have much to do with the left paying attention to it based on their remits and the grifters they have on, they'll find something to pull themselves around the room over anyway. Wokewatch ffs.
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 14, 2021, 03:18:02 PM
They should do an invasion like on the wrestling. Turn up at MediaCity in a tank and challenge Charlie Stayt and Lorraine Kelly to a fight in the carpark.

I served Charlie Stayt in a shop once, he does NOT like being asked to step outside for a fight.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 14, 2021, 03:39:27 PM
I served Charlie Stayt in a shop once, he does NOT like being asked to step outside for a fight.

Typical leftie, they just refuse to engage.
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Post by: peanutbutter on June 14, 2021, 03:42:26 PM
I see the Guardian gave GB News a 1 star review, how is that anything other than a massively helpful thing for them to do? Millions worth in marketing right there, like.

Sidenote: I don't think the likes of Novara are within eyesight of the kind of cunts that'd support this outta spite, the Guardian and the BBC are about as far left as they can comprehend.
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 03:44:24 PM
I see the Guardian gave GB News a 1 star review, how is that anything other than a massively helpful thing for them to do? Millions worth in marketing right there, like.

I think that might be slightly exaggerating the influence and reach of The Guardian's TV reviews.
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Post by: Kankurette on June 14, 2021, 03:45:59 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence. Novara Media doing a review may be relevant, insightful or amusing, but it also increases the chance of it taking off. For it to succeed, it requires the left to react and the right to push back.
Bingo. I'm not going to watch this shite, not just because it sounds awful but also because they want a reaction and I'm not giving them one.
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Post by: peanutbutter on June 14, 2021, 03:47:19 PM
I think that might be slightly exaggerating the influence and reach of The Guardian's TV reviews.
I dont think it is tbh, promoting yourself off the back of some mocking quotes from the left has some value but a one star rating is so needlessly petty and self congratulatory that it'd be the icing on the cake to any sort of efforts (of which I'm sure they're hoping to do loads of)
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Post by: Catalogue Trousers on June 14, 2021, 03:51:30 PM
It'sh NEWSH you fuckahsh, NEWSH!!!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 03:56:35 PM
I see the Guardian gave GB News a 1 star review, how is that anything other than a massively helpful thing for them to do? Millions worth in marketing right there, like.

Sidenote: I don't think the likes of Novara are within eyesight of the kind of cunts that'd support this outta spite, the Guardian and the BBC are about as far left as they can comprehend.

Yeah I think some of shitpost/left twitter forget lots of gammons aren't online and are still relying on Mail Online + linear tv/radio news.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 14, 2021, 04:10:43 PM
You only need to look at their reactions to people pointing out how low rent and shitty it is on Twitter to know that it doesn't really matter whether you give them the oxygen of publicity or not, they'll just invent something anyway. Proper gammon poppy shaggers getting called "triggered lefties" because they've mentioned it's too dark and they can't see it properly.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 04:11:57 PM
You only need to look at their reactions to people pointing out how low rent and shitty it is on Twitter to know that it doesn't really matter whether you give them the oxygen of publicity or not, they'll just invent something anyway. Proper gammon poppy shaggers getting called "triggered lefties" because they've mentioned it's too dark and they can't see it properly.

see now them immediately attacking their own audience is pretty funny.
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 04:12:10 PM
They've 100% spent loads on getting fake Twitter accounts to defend it, haven't they? I noticed how much of that was on there when I looked at their hashtag last night.
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Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 14, 2021, 04:14:53 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence.

I agree to a degree, but your Daily Mails and Piers Morgans who benefit from LEFTIE TEARS are actually competent. They know what exactly they're doing. So far, GB News is just shit. They'll get better. But Iain Lee's show on Twitch had better production values than this.
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 04:16:01 PM
I don't get how it can have so much financial backing and still be so bad. YouTubers look more technically competent than what I was seeing last night.

It brought back memories of the glory days of Friendly TV.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 04:27:45 PM
Yeah heard lots of places mention the fact the audio was out of sync.

Novara fuck that up with their guests sometimes but they typically fix it on the fly and are juggling multiple live streams with weird home streaming configurations. You'd think a proper tv station with broadcast engineers would've had some test broadcasts to not fuck those basics up.
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Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 14, 2021, 04:38:25 PM
Yeah heard lots of places mention the fact the audio was out of sync.

It's so much more than that though. All the outside broadcasts are echoey. Guests (over Zoom or whatever) talk over the presenters and vice-versa because they can't hear each other. One of the regional reporters did their bit to the camera next to someone operating a pneumatic drill. Sometimes you can hear the producers in the gallery. There was a weird scraping noise during one of the interviews too. It's great stuff.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 14, 2021, 04:45:11 PM
Sounds class. Might get hammered and have a watch later.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 04:47:19 PM
Weren't they making out that their studio and operations were making heavy use of 'technology' and it was like the international space station round there?
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on June 14, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
I dont think it is tbh, promoting yourself off the back of some mocking quotes from the left has some value but a one star rating is so needlessly petty and self congratulatory that it'd be the icing on the cake to any sort of efforts (of which I'm sure they're hoping to do loads of)
The Telegraph gave the GB News breakfast show a one-star review. Probably because it was genuinely shit.

But if abuse from the far-left was all something needed to be successful with the gammons, then Starmer would be 20 points ahead in the polls.
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Post by: Glebe on June 14, 2021, 05:27:45 PM
Crikey, that team... Suchet and Gallacher don't really surprize, but I'm disappointed in Simon McCoy, he always seemed like such a nice lad. And that Scots history programme bloke, the fuck?!

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19 (https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1402264636267892745?s=19)

See, diversity. All is welcome at GB News.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Fjv5JJbjvw#t=12s

This is the sort of fine Englishman GB News is made for.

https://twitter.com/craig_dw/status/1404388962941259780?s=19

THIS IDEOLOGY WEAK AND UNPATRIOTIC!!! BOOOOOOOOOO!! BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

(incidentally this is one of the funniest things ive ever seen because of the live laugh love decor)

"Did you get all that, Daz?"
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Post by: chveik on June 14, 2021, 05:35:15 PM
efficient broadcasting is for snowflakes!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 14, 2021, 06:19:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UpNZA3Q.gif)

"If it matters to you, it matters to uz."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 14, 2021, 06:23:13 PM
Whenever I see "GB" I think of this subforum, and keep having to tell myself there isn't a new channel focused on what is going on in General Bullshit. Which is a shame.
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 14, 2021, 06:27:50 PM
Weren't they making out that their studio and operations were making heavy use of 'technology' and it was like the international space station round there?

International space-between-the-ears station more like! Hahahaha
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 06:38:41 PM
You'd think they wouldn't want to compare themselves to an example of international co-operation. They hate international co-operation!

(Apart from the international co-operation of Andrew Neil broadcasting his show from a shed in France.)
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 14, 2021, 06:49:10 PM
Here’s what they think the ISS actually is:

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R774493e0b6c56327896cdfb64fba51c7?rik=qMlH9ftnmT0iUA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2f__cb20110205233255%2fthunderbirds%2fimages%2f7%2f70%2fThunderbird_5.jpg&ehk=jAznuoc15XWCxK4H9BExM%2b8YPwPG8Ewgnf7fL6tNN40%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw)
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Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 06:57:04 PM
Just turned it on and was greeted by the upsetting sight of Tony Parsons mid-point.

It looks like a student TV channel if they'd let Toby Young be in charge of universities after all.

Why don't their mics work properly?
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 14, 2021, 07:42:08 PM
Around 5.45pm I suddenly remembered that the legendary Simon McCoy will be having his turn, so I tuned into his last 15 minutes.

It seems the sound is being done by interns: the presenters sounded like they were sitting in a bathroom, and when doing links to their roving reporters the presenters were either muted or brought to us via a ~200ms slapback echo.

15 mins was all I could stand.  Oh Simon, what have you done?

Apart from suddenly being able to afford a new house extension, or something.
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Post by: neveragain on June 14, 2021, 07:49:41 PM
I thought Simon was one of the good guys...
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Post by: BritishHobo on June 14, 2021, 08:01:19 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence. Novara Media doing a review may be relevant, insightful or amusing, but it also increases the chance of it taking off. For it to succeed, it requires the left to react and the right to push back.

Aye, I went on the trending tag this morning, and all the top tweets were left-wing commentators poring over the whole thing. As has been pointed out, the Guardian review points out, somewhat self-defeatingly, that the channel will need outrage clicks to survive - and that's exactly what they're providing, from day one.
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 14, 2021, 08:15:21 PM
I thought Simon was one of the good guys...

Didn't we all?

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kelvin on June 14, 2021, 08:22:58 PM
Obviously McCoy is a piece of shit for even doing it, but what's his stuff like on the channel? Is he actually rolling out all the right wing tropes himself? I can't really imagine that, he seems too laid back to have that kind of misanthropic persona. 
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Post by: Bazooka on June 14, 2021, 08:31:05 PM
Obviously McCoy is a piece of shit for even doing it, but what's his stuff like on the channel? Is he actually rolling out all the right wing tropes himself? I can't really imagine that, he seems too laid back to have that kind of misanthropic persona.

So he is a piece of shit for doing it, but you don't know what his stuff is like? How do you lot function in the real world?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: bomb_dog on June 14, 2021, 08:48:59 PM
When does Andrew Lawrence get given the ‘comedy’ slot?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 14, 2021, 08:56:12 PM
Quote from: @michaellegge
GB News will make history as the world’s first straight-to-video TV station.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: monkfromhavana on June 14, 2021, 09:00:08 PM
Just clicked over to this during half-time in the football. I was met by Dan Wootton  who is apparently going to be interviewing someone from American media about why Joe Biden wants to cancel the word "Mother".

I quickly changed the channel back to the football.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on June 14, 2021, 09:02:09 PM
launch beat BBC News and Sky in the ratings. then again the first half hour of Channel 5 was also its strongest.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 14, 2021, 09:05:03 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/22/gb-news-will-be-staunchly-independent-not-anti-impartiality (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/22/gb-news-will-be-staunchly-independent-not-anti-impartiality)

Seen this; the Guardian published a letter from GBs CEO
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 09:13:06 PM
When does Andrew Lawrence get given the ‘comedy’ slot?

4pm on Saturday, lol.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 14, 2021, 09:40:37 PM
Angelos Frangopoulos, good British bloke (Australian, instrumental in building up Murdoch's Sky News channel there into an influential right-wing government mouthpiece)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kelvin on June 14, 2021, 09:43:36 PM
So he is a piece of shit for doing it, but you don't know what his stuff is like? How do you lot function in the real world?

He's a piece of shit for signing up to work on that channel. Pretty simple stuff, this.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 14, 2021, 09:46:33 PM
Angelos Frangopoulos, good British bloke (Australian, instrumental in building up Murdoch's Sky News channel there into an influential right-wing government mouthpiece)

(https://www.mancunianmatters.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/renton_skinnermain.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 14, 2021, 09:51:13 PM
Obviously McCoy is a piece of shit for even doing it, but what's his stuff like on the channel? Is he actually rolling out all the right wing tropes himself? I can't really imagine that, he seems too laid back to have that kind of misanthropic persona.

That was my question too, hence me tuning in.

Can't really give you an answer unfortunately as the 15m I saw was mostly:

• them talking to a roving reporter relaying vox pops second-hand about what people thought about "so-called Freedom Day" being postponed,
• a truly bizarre bit where his co-host Alex Phillips read out an email from a woman saying "I've been married to a narcissist for 40 years an' it never did me no harm, he's wonderful, a bit high maintenance though!!" (seems this was the follow-up to an earlier segment about living with a narcissistic partner) -- McCoy at least had the grace to look surprised,
• an awful lot of adverts,
• the weather,
• a quick handover to the 6pm bulletin, the latter of which consisted of a frightened rabbit-in-headlights disguised as a woman, standing in a black void, saying how they were expecting to hear from Boris Johnson "soon".

I turned off.  Maybe I'll give him another go tomorrow at a better time (it runs 3pm-6pm daily).

When it was first announced he was off to GBN there was some wailing and gnashing of teeth on Twitter, to which his reply was something like "Simply watch and listen with an open mind, that's all I ask."

Given the previous respect I had for him, plus the above, I'm willing to give him an hour or three of my time, just to see.

Not all at once though, that would presumably be unbearable.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mobias on June 14, 2021, 10:08:51 PM
I don't really know why so many people like Simon McCoy. I remember thinking he showed his true colours when he was critical of Gary Lineker being allowed to share his 'woke' left wing views on Twitter whilst being a paid BBC presenter. 
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fishfinger on June 14, 2021, 10:10:03 PM
"Roger Daltrey answers your questions."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fishfinger on June 14, 2021, 10:29:21 PM
"Roger Daltrey answers your questions."

Actual thing on the H.S. Art channel fuck it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 14, 2021, 10:38:09 PM
In the unlikely event that this succeeds, it will likely be because the left are taking the piss and the usual cunts therefore decide to back it. If you have any sense, you won't mention it on social media, you won't take the piss on there, you won't Like or encourage those that do. You'll just let is fail in silence. Novara Media doing a review may be relevant, insightful or amusing, but it also increases the chance of it taking off. For it to succeed, it requires the left to react and the right to push back.

This is 100% correct. Just fucking ignore it. No good comes from paying attention to it. It is designed to set the agenda by winding the everyone to their left up and by forcing mainstream broadcast sources onto their turf. The people funding it aren't expecting to make money from it.

And that Scots history programme bloke, the fuck?!

Driven mad by Indyref sadly

Obviously McCoy is a piece of shit for even doing it, but what's his stuff like on the channel? Is he actually rolling out all the right wing tropes himself? I can't really imagine that, he seems too laid back to have that kind of misanthropic persona.

It's funny that he went there because the thing he's known for is surely his flagrant and mocking disrespect for the Royal family during the wait for some royal baby or other.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jittlebags on June 14, 2021, 10:39:28 PM
Hehh. Wonder what The Viz's 'The Male Online' will make of his new channel. If it's anything like the Daily Mail atricles today on Gammon British News, he'll be creaming himself.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 14, 2021, 10:42:20 PM
"Actually in the red wall they like inept TV and Dan Wotton"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 14, 2021, 10:45:52 PM
When has the advice “Just ignore it/him/them” ever been followed? By anybody? I mean I’m no great fan of Shoulders but he always points this out
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 10:46:35 PM
Hehh. Wonder what The Viz's 'The Male Online' will make of his new channel. If it's anything like the Daily Mail atricles today on Gammon British News, he'll be creaming himself.

I was wondering what the studio was reminding me of but this long shot has sorted it.

(https://i.inews.co.uk/content/uploads/2021/06/SEI_82336707-640x360.jpg)

It's like it was thrown up in bays where they fix the hosts in Westworld.
(https://preview.redd.it/ehqqb7oujz111.png?auto=webp&s=dc84bb39c60722e53fb0279047feb8adc9473882)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on June 14, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
It's so fucking moronic that again and again the right create something, the left amplify it to try and scare people off it but end up just giving it free publicity. Nothing will change though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fishfinger on June 14, 2021, 10:51:19 PM
It won't be Fox News because of the regulator. Jesus fucking Christ. It's here and it is Fox News.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 14, 2021, 10:53:49 PM
It's so fucking moronic that again and again the right create something, the left amplify it to try and scare people off it but end up just giving it free publicity. Nothing will change though.

People aren't trying to scare its viewers off; they're laughing at it in a place where it's viewers aren't.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Big Mclargehuge on June 14, 2021, 10:56:43 PM
see; this has created a bit of a problem for me. in advance I pre-warned my parents and grandparents to give it a swerve because I was convinced that it was going to be a bit of a gateway platform to malicious content. they all listened and they're avoiding it like the plague.

I on the other hand love absolute trash cinema and television, I have experience in the media industry and I get a RAGING stiffy when people are trying to play it cool and professional and the whole thing turns into a disaster. So I've been dropping in on the channel periodically through the day whenever i've been flagging to laugh my absolute balls off at the total and utter awfulness of this channel. it's just absolute arse of the highest order and i've been squealing with utter delight and just how shit it is and just how poorly put together and run it's been so far. an utter highlight was when the weather came on and it told me today was going to be sunny all day in my area as I looked out to heavy rain slatting it down outside. you cant write comedy timing like that. it's amazing.

Im doing what most users are doing on here and im keeping absolutely silent about it online because I want it to fail. This has been (And will be) my only post about it. but...MY GOD! this has been a fucking HILARIOUS farce. and I really hope it continues. it's like stepping back in time about 15 years to one of those weird sky digital channels that was just dumped in the middle of the EPG that was clearly being run out of a broom cupboard, powered off a meter with a budget of 20p a day. astounding to see in the 2020's...
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 14, 2021, 11:06:03 PM
Minutes on the clock I reckon before one of them turns to the camera and says "I bet you're loving this on the Cook'd and Bomb'd forum."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 14, 2021, 11:12:22 PM
https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1404561240786145283 (https://twitter.com/MichaelLCrick/status/1404561240786145283)

Thank god we're hearing from Times and Spectator columnist Rod Liddle, who has been silenced for too long
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kelvin on June 14, 2021, 11:16:35 PM
When has the advice “Just ignore it/him/them” ever been followed? By anybody? I mean I’m no great fan of Shoulders but he always points this out

It doesn't. But I think it bears saying at least once anyway, as it's true. It's also not an either / or situation. Some people might take it on board, others wont. But it's a cumulative effect.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 14, 2021, 11:20:50 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/d7R46U2.jpg)

I mean they're not even pretending it's good are they. Owning the libs doesn't have to be good.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 14, 2021, 11:37:09 PM
mambo no. 5's let itself go
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 15, 2021, 12:07:24 AM
god Dan Wootton is just a really nasty cunt isn't he. just basically the bully's best mate
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 15, 2021, 12:10:44 AM
Really fucking depressing seeing Gloria De Piero there
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Rev+ on June 15, 2021, 02:04:39 AM
Quote from: GBNews
We are not a rolling news channel, nor will we be providing conventional news bulletins.

Sort of like you're not a news channel at all, isn't it?  So it's not even that.

This doesn't even have the breadth of content that Kelsey Grammer's doomed channel had.  The channel won't last until Christmas, but what'll be interesting is seeing how quickly the presenters disappear like popped pimples.  Some of them won't last a month, most of them will be gone in two when they realise how career-fucking appearing on this shitshow is.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 02:40:10 AM
How many heads are going to explode at those two black women?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: koeman on June 15, 2021, 03:00:48 AM
Really fucking depressing seeing Gloria De Piero there

Not surprised at all to be honest. She was my wife's MP and was truly useless.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lgpmachine on June 15, 2021, 07:11:34 AM
Trivia: the ‘GB’ stands for ‘Gor Blimey’
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: monkfromhavana on June 15, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
Not surprised at all to be honest. She was my wife's MP and was truly useless.

Your wife had her own MP? Talk about gerrymandering.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: koeman on June 15, 2021, 09:11:59 AM
Your wife had her own MP? Talk about gerrymandering.

Yeah but it didn't do her much good.

Mind you, Gloria's replacement is Lee Anderson which is much, much worse.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 15, 2021, 09:14:02 AM
Your wife had her own MP? Talk about gerrymandering.

Gerry Mandering MP
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Paul Calf on June 15, 2021, 09:20:21 AM
So he is a piece of shit for doing it, but you don't know what his stuff is like? How do you lot function in the real world?

Yeah. I mean, have you even seen Hitler's paintings?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 15, 2021, 09:31:14 AM
Yeah. I mean, have you even seen Hitler's paintings?

(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5fc0cc332900004880c6cb57.png?ops=crop_0_123_1000_740%2Cscalefit_720_noupscale)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 10:31:48 AM
my twitter sidebar has been stuffed with tangentially related GB News items, the easily baited quotetweet "dunk" centrist dads have taken this one as their their new comedy goldmine. am frantically muting everything that appears to be trending off it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 15, 2021, 10:38:50 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E34FQFQWEAEkNNa?format=jpg&name=small)

They may take our country, but they'll never take our fereedom.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 15, 2021, 10:41:20 AM
Efefefetch the fereedom Granville
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 11:08:09 AM
my twitter sidebar has been stuffed with tangentially related GB News items, the easily baited quotetweet "dunk" centrist dads have taken this one as their their new comedy goldmine. am frantically muting everything that appears to be trending off it.
Meh I find their smug insistence that the only reliable, trustworthy sources of journalism exist between The Times and The Guardian, and everyone else are tabloid trash or craaaaaaaanks far more pernicious.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 15, 2021, 11:27:36 AM
They should screen that Dogtanian CGI movie. Might boost the ratings!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Buelligan on June 15, 2021, 11:40:11 AM
Really fucking depressing seeing Gloria De Piero there

Why pigamus, why?  She's an out-and-out cunt.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/gloria-de-piero-resigns-labour-corbyn-election-antisemitism-a9013286.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/20/gloria-de-piero-quits-labour-frontbench-over-lack-of-tolerance
https://twitter.com/gloriadepiero/status/1298514252358201345?lang=en
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gloria-de-piero-to-quit-intolerant-corbyn-team-j29n2w7dk
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gloria-de-piero-there-were-times-when-i-thought-i-was-losing-my-mind-cntkkf8mj
https://ar-ar.facebook.com/ITVPeston/videos/gloria-del-piero-on-jeremy-corbyns-handling-of-antisemitism/2517885575099333/
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2021, 12:01:43 PM
There was a time when the phrase

easily baited quotetweet "dunk" centrist dads

would have been gobbledygook to me.


I miss those times.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 01:35:10 PM
Sebastian, have you got any other decent sources besides those two? I'm not being snarky, I'm interested cos it's hard to find news that isn't clickbaity bullshit these days. The Telegraph used to be good but went rapidly down the pan, sports coverage aside.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: robhug on June 15, 2021, 02:02:54 PM
Who is Dan Wootton and how has he got a job that involves thinking and talking
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 02:03:41 PM
Who is Dan Wootton and how has he got a job that involves thinking and talking

he was the celeb editor at the Sun, the Murdoch Matthew Wright, weird how they go into rabble rousing
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 02:17:55 PM
Sebastian, have you got any other decent sources besides those two? I'm not being snarky, I'm interested cos it's hard to find news that isn't clickbaity bullshit these days. The Telegraph used to be good but went rapidly down the pan, sports coverage aside.

I was mostly pointing out the hipocrasy of people allegedly above ideology patting themselves on the back for reading multiple news sources, but cherry-picking sources that all agree how things should be done, and mostly have a difference of opinion over whom should be implementing things.

The FT is much better than I thought it would be, given its main audience. And whilst not news I picked up a Tribune digital trial for a fiver and found the commentary quite good. I've usually relied on social media/forums to do some crowdsourcing of articles rather than sticking to a particular paper though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sherman Krank on June 15, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
Who is Dan Wootton and how has he got a job that involves thinking and talking
he was the celeb editor at the Sun, the Murdoch Matthew Wright, weird how they go into rabble rousing
I've been reading the thread assuming it was that bloke who used to be Shirley Ghostman.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 02:49:14 PM
he was the celeb editor at the Sun, the Murdoch Matthew Wright, weird how they go into rabble rousing

I've been reading the thread assuming it was that bloke who used to be Shirley Ghostman.

Despite looking similar, they're unrelated. Dan Wootton is a Kiwi too.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 03:34:49 PM
I was mostly pointing out the hipocrasy of people allegedly above ideology patting themselves on the back for reading multiple news sources, but cherry-picking sources that all agree how things should be done, and mostly have a difference of opinion over whom should be implementing things.

The FT is much better than I thought it would be, given its main audience. And whilst not news I picked up a Tribune digital trial for a fiver and found the commentary quite good. I've usually relied on social media/forums to do some crowdsourcing of articles rather than sticking to a particular paper though.
Thanks, and I've done the same re crowdsourcing. The Guardian is the mainstream paper I read the most but even then, I'm not too keen.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: chveik on June 15, 2021, 04:10:53 PM
al-jazeera and russia today are superior. not joking
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Ombudsman on June 15, 2021, 04:17:00 PM
(https://image.gbnews.uk/101976.jpg?imageId=101976&x=12.867132867133&y=7.1846905537459&cropw=69.79020979021&croph=72.638436482085&width=499&height=670)

Haircut
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 15, 2021, 04:48:17 PM
There's something extremely creepy about Dan Wootton.

One of those celebrities you don't want to say you like too much because it feels like some terrible news about him might come out at some point.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: RicoMNKN on June 15, 2021, 04:53:16 PM
Looking at the hits on videos on their YouTube channel, it is depressing (yet expected) that an interview with a Grenfell survivor about dangerous cladding gets their lowest views - 1/10 of those for someone moaning that the council made him take down his flag bunting.

One thing that does seem apparent is that they are getting good access to government figures to fluff, though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Buelligan on June 15, 2021, 04:54:19 PM
(https://image.gbnews.uk/101976.jpg?imageId=101976&x=12.867132867133&y=7.1846905537459&cropw=69.79020979021&croph=72.638436482085&width=499&height=670)

Haircut

Looks like the Skeksis got his essence.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Uncle TechTip on June 15, 2021, 05:03:46 PM
Day 2 and they're having to defend the BBC over attacks on journalists. Dammit!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: robhug on June 15, 2021, 05:32:24 PM
There's something extremely creepy about Dan Wootton.

One of those celebrities you don't want to say you like too much because it feels like some terrible news about him might come out at some point.

Are you saying you like Dan Wootton too much?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: robhug on June 15, 2021, 05:33:07 PM
bell
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jake Thingray on June 15, 2021, 05:35:17 PM
This doesn't even have the breadth of content that Kelsey Grammer's doomed channel had.

Or even the Jim Davidson-fronted Ustreme which started up last year, and in addition to 'JDTV', on which the guest is nearly always Bobby Davro, streams documentaries on Our Boys and WW2, previously available on VHS recordings of mainly dead comedians, and repeats of Bonanza -- hopefully, GB News really will prove about as successful.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 15, 2021, 05:49:14 PM
There was a time when the phrase

Quote
easily baited quotetweet "dunk" centrist dads

would have been gobbledygook to me.


I miss those times.

The only words I can say I know for sure are “easily” and “dad”. I’d like to say “dunk” is one of them as well, but with it being in speech marks I’m less sure of myself. Makes it sound like a particularly troublesome form of anal or something.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 15, 2021, 07:35:18 PM
Do they have advertisers?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 15, 2021, 07:39:21 PM
Yep

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/15/brands-pull-ads-from-gb-news-tv-channel-over-content-concerns
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 07:56:55 PM
Yep

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/15/brands-pull-ads-from-gb-news-tv-channel-over-content-concerns

lol

This is a bit like the time when I was working on a streaming platform and a big national bank said "yes we know we paid sponsorship for you to play our advert first before EVERY programme stream, but is there any chance you could not do that for Jeremy Kyle?".
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 15, 2021, 08:03:47 PM
I’m surprised they don’t have more control over where the adverts go?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 15, 2021, 08:07:12 PM
Yep

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jun/15/brands-pull-ads-from-gb-news-tv-channel-over-content-concerns

Quote
Brands pull ads from GB News TV channel over content concerns.

Ikea, Grolsch and Kopparberg have suspended adverts due to station’s perceived conflict with their values

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvar_Kamprad#Fascist_involvement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvar_Kamprad#Fascist_involvement)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 15, 2021, 08:07:26 PM
"The values of the Carphone Warehouse"

It's just so embarassing, this channel. I would love it if it died a death and killed Andrew Neil's career. But I'm sure he'll be alright, the cunt.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on June 15, 2021, 08:12:11 PM
The channel will be a great success, and the Guardian review smugly claiming 'I give it a year' will be forced back down Stuart Jeffries's throat in 10 years time by jackbooted teens.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 15, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
The schadenfreude is enjoyable but it might be wise not to gloat too much yet.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 15, 2021, 08:21:59 PM
Fuck, I'm getting Alastair Stewart mixed up with John Suchet.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 08:27:01 PM
I’m surprised they don’t have more control over where the adverts go?

Ad selling is a murky business, whilst it can be targetted agencies do block-book things too and resell so it could have easily happened.

VOD adverts can be targetted on all-sorts, but even knowing just an approximate age and gender is already enough to significantly streamline ads, of course it can be targetted as well, but obviously making adverts costs enough money for people want to have a reasonable audience.

However another problem is anyone involved in selling adverts is sketchy as fuck and wants to sell more ads... Our system had a 'collision-detection' thing to stop you getting a load of competing bank adverts in a row, for instance. But I know for a fact it used to get turned off for clients when trying to get the numbers up at the end of a campaign.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 08:28:11 PM
Fuck, I'm getting Alastair Stewart mixed up with John Suchet.

Suchet's the one who didn't get fired from Police, Camera, Action! For crashing their car while pissed.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 15, 2021, 08:33:22 PM
Suchet's the one who didn't get fired from Police, Camera, Action! For crashing their car while pissed.

It's quite the mystery! Sound's like a job for John's brother, David 'Poirot' Suchet!

(https://i.imgur.com/UiFv08e.jpg)

Meanwhile, you can now officially hate Simon McCoy after years of finding him a bit irritating but thinking he seemed like a decent bloke.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dr beat on June 15, 2021, 08:42:55 PM
Glebe, how many GB News presenters do you reckon have escaped from David Dickinson's estate? Surprised the man himself hasn't signed up!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 15, 2021, 08:45:35 PM
Glebe, how many GB News presenters do you reckon have escaped from David Dickinson's estate? Surprised the man himself hasn't signed up!

Hard to say who has or hasn't been a victim of Dickinson's slave labour camp, but Kirsty Gallagher seems traumatized and Simon McCoy has the look of somehow who's spent three days rearranging rhododendrons to some madman's exact specifications.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dr beat on June 15, 2021, 08:52:34 PM
I've heard rumours that Neil is very high on Dickinson's Most Wanted list, and that 'The Duke' has issued playing cards to his lackeys like the ones given to US soldiers during the Iraq War.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dr beat on June 15, 2021, 08:53:22 PM
(https://image.gbnews.uk/101976.jpg?imageId=101976&x=12.867132867133&y=7.1846905537459&cropw=69.79020979021&croph=72.638436482085&width=499&height=670)

Haircut

Jimmy White cat to the thread for comparison pls
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jake Thingray on June 15, 2021, 09:24:04 PM
Fuck, I'm getting Alastair Stewart mixed up with John Suchet.

You did indeed, earlier on in this thread, but as I've never forgiven the newsreading Suchet for looking absolutely delighted when announcing the results of the 1992 General Election on ITN overnight, it's understandable.

Rather funny comment on the geeks' meeting place Roobarb's Forum that by employing Stewart and Kirsty Gallacher, they're displaying favouritism towards drunk drivers.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 15, 2021, 09:32:36 PM
You did indeed, earlier on in this thread, but as I've never forgiven the newsreading Suchet for looking absolutely delighted when announcing the results of the 1992 General Election on ITN overnight, it's understandable.

Rather funny comment on the geeks' meeting place Roobarb's Forum that by employing Stewart and Kirsty Gallacher, they're displaying favouritism towards drunk drivers.
You can add wifebeaters I suppose, there's a vid of Rod Liddle opining from his house about 'taking the knee', couldn't even be arsed to stub his cig out.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2021, 09:37:04 PM
Apparently Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong have had their texts read out.

I know I know, it's publicity for them
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Post by: touchingcloth on June 15, 2021, 09:42:49 PM
Will this channel solely be doing news, or will they be showing any military-based general knowledge quiz shows?
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Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 10:05:57 PM
You can add wifebeaters I suppose, there's a vid of Rod Liddle opining from his house about 'taking the knee', couldn't even be arsed to stub his cig out.
Priti Patel's been on crying about the same thing. It's a rogues' gallery of cunts.
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Post by: Psybro on June 15, 2021, 10:24:11 PM
The FT is much better than I thought it would be, given its main audience.

You don't get high on your own supply.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 15, 2021, 10:27:36 PM
imagine if you threw andrew neill off a cliff. cunt'd make a huge splash. I dont have anything else to say except I dont openly incite violence against anyone, even huge cunts that look like giant rock trolls
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: canadagoose on June 15, 2021, 10:50:12 PM
That bawbag David Collier is defending GB News. What a wank. I bet him and Andrew Neil are best pals or something.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 15, 2021, 10:54:09 PM
isnt he just basically a cunt on twitter and literally nothing else
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Pinball on June 15, 2021, 10:58:38 PM
As long as Ofcom rules aren't broken, so what? We allow foreign powers to operate propaganda channels, and they have been closed down when they breach e.g. Press TV (Iran). Russia Today and various Chinese propaganda 'news' channels are still broadcasting, and seem extremely biased IMO, and generally a little negative about anything 'Western', haha. I find it quite entertaining to occasionally dip into the shit they purvey TBH, and will do so with GB News at some point when I can be bothered. BBC and Sky News are pretty tabloid and shit nowadays anyway, with little proper, tough, insightful 'journalism', so I don't watch anywhere near as much news as I used to.

Was much better back in the olden days, eh fellow old farts?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2021, 11:16:54 PM
That bawbag David Collier is defending GB News. What a wank. I bet him and Andrew Neil are best pals or something.

This cunt?

https://david-collier.com/cycling-weekly/
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: king_tubby on June 15, 2021, 11:33:07 PM
Apologies for the Waterson tweet link, but didn't take long for GB News to come out as pro-nonce.

https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/1404921547144433664
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2021, 11:35:18 PM
Even Fox and Grimey look like they're not having much fun.

Still nice to see Red Rishi is happy to appear on this.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: derek stitt on June 15, 2021, 11:39:34 PM
Mike Oxlong and Mike Hunt have been read out on that channel today, funny as fuck.

Curses, my earth shattering revelation has already posted by a keener eye, the golden eye of a tufted duck.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 15, 2021, 11:52:10 PM
I keep switching back for a few seconds every couple of hours to giggle at how poor it is. This must be what 99% of viewers are doing.

It's impossible to imagine anyone earnestly thinking it is good.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fabian Thomsett on June 15, 2021, 11:59:15 PM
Only been on 48 hours and already they're defending nonces.

Where do they go from here?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Pranet on June 16, 2021, 12:06:19 AM
I've got this nagging voice at the back of head telling me to bookmark this thread for the time when GB News is being given the credit for making Lawrence Fox Prime Minister and then through unanimous acclaim dictator for life.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 16, 2021, 12:08:31 AM
Only been on 48 hours and already they're defending nonces.

Where do they go from here?

It's not like they didn't know what they were getting

Quote
In November she appeared on Good Morning Britain to defend Prince Andrew's associations with deceased sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, who had been convicted of soliciting a 17 year old female for prostitution. In the interview, she claimed that Epstein was not a paedophile (since claiming him to be an ephebophile)[24] and argued that there was a difference between "a minor and a child" - while such distinction is made in some European legislations (e.g. Poland or Italy)[25] no such legal distinction exists in the local law.[26][27]

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 16, 2021, 12:10:54 AM
I've got this nagging voice at the back of head telling me to bookmark this thread for the time when GB News is being given the credit for making Lawrence Fox Prime Minister and then through unanimous acclaim dictator for life.

Boy will my face be red!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 16, 2021, 12:12:31 AM
Yeah 'cos you'll be hanging from a rope! We all will.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Pranet on June 16, 2021, 12:13:04 AM
I mean that if I have got it to hand it will be easier for me to dob you all in to the authorities.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 12:14:10 AM
I refuse to entertain the idea that my demise will come at the order of anyone who smokes liquorice rollies.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 16, 2021, 12:14:43 AM
In terms of telly, we’re so used to high technical standards, it’s only when you take those standards away that you realise how difficult telly is to do, from a technical point of view.  I remember that great item on Screenwipe explaining all this. Like, you watch a supposedly expensive bit of telly and a supposedly cheap bit of telly and the credits list isn’t any shorter, is it?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 16, 2021, 12:15:58 AM
I refuse to entertain the idea that my demise will come at the order of anyone who smokes liquorice rollies.

He doesn't smoke them, he just rolls them when the cameras are on. So rest easy.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 12:21:05 AM
In terms of telly, we’re so used to high technical standards, it’s only when you take those standards away that you realise how difficult telly is to do, from a technical point of view.  I remember that great item on Screenwipe explaining all this. Like, you watch a supposedly expensive bit of telly and a supposedly cheap bit of telly and the credits list isn’t any shorter, is it?

Yeah I figured the fact that they're getting people reading out daft names was probably because it's run by the talent and the parts of production that screened their stuff were probably invisible to them.

But there's loads of other stuff, I don't think I've seen such a dark studio before and there's probably a reason for that. Most cheap sets look bright and overlit.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 16, 2021, 01:06:06 AM
But that’s what I mean - it’s not like they can’t afford lightbulbs, is it? It’s getting the right technical people to give you the effect you want, and they don’t come cheap.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 16, 2021, 01:18:17 AM
still amazed how most youtubers manage better presentation than this. christ that opening oration by the chief rock troll that is just one static camera through the whole thing. there's no fucking way I'd think that was good enough for a c.5 minute ramble for anything. either cut to VO for some bits or get a second camera to cut to, fucksake
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ian Drunken Smurf on June 16, 2021, 06:21:29 AM
They've employed him for his name: "Oliver" works very well as part of a programme's title. For example: "Oliver's Army" - News about the army, presented by Oliver, "Oliver's Amy" (same idea), "Oliver's Oliviers" - News from Theatreland, read by Oliver, and so on.

I can't wait for his series on drinking Superbrew.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: daf on June 16, 2021, 06:39:54 AM
Only been on 48 hours and already they're defending nonces.

Where do they go from here?

Is it down to the lake I fear?

(Ay-yah-yah-yah, yah-yah
Ay-yah-yah-yah-yah-yah-yah, yah-yah)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: non capisco on June 16, 2021, 07:42:16 AM
Is it down to the lake I fear?

(Ay-yah-yah-yah, yah-yah
Ay-yah-yah-yah-yah-yah-yah, yah-yah)

"I went off to the right".
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on June 16, 2021, 07:56:07 AM
Annoyingly, I agree that Prince Andrew's not a paedophile, which is a term with a specific meaning. I worked with one of your actual paedophiles once, he was quite open about it and would have been quite miffed at being lumped in with a member of the Royal Family. I probably wouldn't go on telly to make this argument though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 16, 2021, 08:07:59 AM
But that’s what I mean - it’s not like they can’t afford lightbulbs, is it? It’s getting the right technical people to give you the effect you want, and they don’t come cheap.
I do wonder if they tried headhunting technical staff with experience, but they all went "actually, I'm fine where I am" and instead they've had to recruit people who might have the training from uni or whatever but never worked in live TV?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on June 16, 2021, 09:08:09 AM
There's supposed to be a general shortage of TV technical staff at the moment too and GB News's budget is tiny. Wouldn't be surprised if after such a poor launch and management pressure being piled on to improve that they lose a few people too.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: icehaven on June 16, 2021, 09:10:32 AM
Anyone else just automatically think General Bullshit News every time you see it?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Dr Rock on June 16, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
Annoyingly, I agree that Prince Andrew's not a paedophile, which is a term with a specific meaning.

Is child-fucker more acceptable?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 16, 2021, 10:07:29 AM
If only people on the right were as respectful and careful when labelling I dunno, trans or non-binary people, as they are about labelling nonces.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 10:48:08 AM
What have they actually said about Andy? He is a GB Nonce.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 16, 2021, 10:52:01 AM
Would love it if they somehow decriminalised ephebophilia in order to save Andy but in the process all the Asian grooming gangs were pardoned, compensated and Johnson had to issue an official apology for how they were treated.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on June 16, 2021, 11:37:27 AM
Is child-fucker more acceptable?

I think so? I'd check with my tame paedophile but he moved to Belgium and died.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 16, 2021, 11:54:33 AM
I do wonder if they tried headhunting technical staff with experience, but they all went "actually, I'm fine where I am" and instead they've had to recruit people who might have the training from uni or whatever but never worked in live TV?

Absolutely, yeah. If you’re an experienced techie you’d be mad to throw your lot in with this cowboy outfit in the current climate. Or ever, really.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 16, 2021, 12:20:50 PM
But that’s what I mean - it’s not like they can’t afford lightbulbs, is it? It’s getting the right technical people to give you the effect you want, and they don’t come cheap.

GB News can certainly afford to hire professionals. The amateurishness is deliberate, to make it seem less like part of the establishment.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 12:25:54 PM
There's supposed to be a general shortage of TV technical staff at the moment too and GB News's budget is tiny. Wouldn't be surprised if after such a poor launch and management pressure being piled on to improve that they lose a few people too.

Quite surprised at that. It felt like there was a bit of a theme of downsizing especially around news, moving from reporting needing a sat truck and broadcast engineers to having 'multi-media journalists' who are essentially sent packing with a camera, then edit and submit stuff themselves (maybe even a dejiro gobox if you they're lucky). There's obvs a lot of crossover between 'internet production' and 'linear tv' production in a lot of cases though.

Actually there's a fair commercial industry in that, when I worked for a tech company they had a godawful annual corporate indoctrination session and being too big/international to see us all it was done from some specialist studio that was essentially like a generic newsroom set up for the tasks... load speech on interview, stick a logo under the desks and give them some branded cups, good to go.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 16, 2021, 12:27:44 PM
There's supposed to be a general shortage of TV technical staff at the moment too and GB News's budget is tiny.

Define "tiny."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on June 16, 2021, 12:36:14 PM
I'm sure they could afford proper technical staff, but they'd probably rather use the money on 'talent' salaries.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 16, 2021, 12:37:43 PM
And buffing Dan Wooton's fangs
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 16, 2021, 12:46:18 PM
I wonder how many of their viewers are watching just to see how bad this is. I doubt GB News mind why people are watching just as long as they are.
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Post by: Buelligan on June 16, 2021, 01:30:37 PM
I'm not, cheer up!  Have fatter more entertaining fish to fry.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 16, 2021, 02:09:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/QPcxbtv.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/2tE5aME.gif)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Buelligan on June 16, 2021, 02:15:35 PM
Ding dong.

Eurgh.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 16, 2021, 02:42:19 PM
There's supposed to be a general shortage of TV technical staff at the moment too and GB News's budget is tiny. Wouldn't be surprised if after such a poor launch and management pressure being piled on to improve that they lose a few people too.

Is it tiny £60m?!!

Jesus christ how much does it cost to run this kind of shite; 60 million they have to make some shit TV when local councils can't get 100K together to try and help disadvantaged people not get progressively iller.

How "technical" do you need to be to hold a fucking boom and know a bit of sound engineering; what is the cost of someone doing this £80k £120k a year even then you could have 6-7 of them a year for less that 1.5% of their budget.  Why not spend 5% of your costs on staffing and have a team of 30 odd people on 100k wages making Lord Gammon sound impressive.

Sorry but this boils my piss the disparity in which people get paid for jobs that are actually essential to society and those that (generally work in London) demand these kind of salaries because they are "technical" is utterly depressing.


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Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 02:52:40 PM
Is it tiny £60m?!!

Jesus christ how much does it cost to run this kind of shite; 60 million they have to make some shit TV when local councils can't get 100K together to try and help disadvantaged people not get progressively iller.

How "technical" do you need to be to hold a fucking boom and know a bit of sound engineering; what is the cost of someone doing this £80k £120k a year even then you could have 6-7 of them a year for less that 1.5% of their budget.  Why not spend 5% of your costs on staffing and have a team of 30 odd people on 100k wages making Lord Gammon sound impressive.

Sorry but this boils my piss the disparity in which people get paid for jobs that are actually essential to society and those that (generally work in London) demand these kind of salaries because they are "technical" is utterly depressing.

I don’t think it’s the techies themselves you want to be directing your anger at. They have reasonably high day rates, but it’s a side of the industry which is very heavily staffed with freelance labour, so their salaries will need to cover holidays, sick days and pensions, and often they will provide the equipment as well as just themselves. It would be nice if the industry was less freelance-based, but I can see how it’s ended up that way given the fragmented nature of telly production (and film/theatre production). They’re unsurprisingly an extremely unionised set of workers because of this.

I can’t really comment on whether GB News’ budget is huge or tiny relative to the content they are making, but I’m fairly confident that the spending which would be hardest for anyone to justify would be the pay of the on-air presenters, and the salaried execs and managers.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 02:56:01 PM
Oh, and from my experience with camera crew, editors and soundies, GB News totally wouldn’t struggle to recruit people due to ideological clashes. Some of the biggest Farage-loving Brexit gobshites I have come across are in that line of work. In many ways the industry has a microcosm of a culture war between technical and artistic teams, each with different unions and different canteens.
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Post by: Catalogue Trousers on June 16, 2021, 02:58:57 PM
If you want to know that odd feeling of not being sure whether to laugh or cry, then just check the comments on any MSN news story involving BBC and/or GB News.

Oh who am I kidding, it's much easier to laugh. Especially at the thought of those sad little flag-fuckers and gammons sitting there, desperately trying to convince themselves that what Neil and his chums are putting out is somehow quality broadcasting. 'Oh yeah, they're really sticking it to the woke libtards! This is astoundingly good television! I'm not wasting my time at all!'
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Pinball on June 16, 2021, 03:01:19 PM
I watched a bit. My Zoom calls are more technically proficient. Appalling.

Content-wise they were criticising the Tories and agreeing with Labour, so first impressions are not of a Third Reich propaganda channel to be fair. Definitely shit though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 03:12:19 PM
If you want to know that odd feeling of not being sure whether to laugh or cry, then just check the comments on any MSN news story involving BBC and/or GB News.

Oh who am I kidding, it's much easier to laugh. Especially at the thought of those sad little flag-fuckers and gammons sitting there, desperately trying to convince themselves that what Neil and his chums are putting out is somehow quality broadcasting. 'Oh yeah, they're really sticking it to the woke libtards! This is astoundingly good television! I'm not wasting my time at all!'

My mother-in-law is more a gammon-in-chief, and the other day was ranting about the lockdown extension and how “the Guardian are in favour of it!”

“I don’t read the Guardian.”

“The Guardian, yes! They’re all for it, the Guardian!”

“I don’t read the Guardian.”

“Ooh yes, the Guardian. Lockdown. George Monbiot. They very much approve!”

“I don’t read the Guardian. You don’t read the Guardian. No one reads the Guardian.”

“Oh don’t talk to me about the bloody Guardian, they love lockdown!”

She likes watching videos hosted on Facebook (yes, hosted, not just posted), so I imagine GB News must be blowing her mind right about now. Wide open, one would hope.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 16, 2021, 03:22:35 PM
I don’t think it’s the techies themselves you want to be directing your anger at. They have reasonably high day rates, but it’s a side of the industry which is very heavily staffed with freelance labour, so their salaries will need to cover holidays, sick days and pensions, and often they will provide the equipment as well as just themselves. It would be nice if the industry was less freelance-based, but I can see how it’s ended up that way given the fragmented nature of telly production (and film/theatre production). They’re unsurprisingly an extremely unionised set of workers because of this.

I appreciate what you are saying but I know lots of freelancers who often tell me about how essential their extra pay is because they don't get paid for holidays and all the rest of the gubbins.  It's generally nonsense and just a way to manage their own embarrassment at what some of them get paid.  I'm not saying all freelancers are bad people; a fair days pay for fair days work and not all freelance work is well inumerated but when I have to hear about how the cushy ones they have got it worse than people on PAYE (they don't) that everyone on PAYE is secure (they aren't), they work longer hours (No chance) then my eyes start to roll.

Last year I gave up 15 days annual leave in my role at the NHS, I've not had a sick day in 6-7 years, currently work the jobs of about 3-4 people and that is the fucking reality of most aspects of working in underfunded services.  You'd think the least these people could do is not belittle public sector workers by not accepting they have a very cushy deal.

100k a year for holding a boom and making some sound crisp is an utter disgrace in comparison to a adult social services worker getting by on 25k a year. 25 days a year holiday doesn't equate to 75k.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 16, 2021, 03:23:09 PM
Oh, and from my experience with camera crew, editors and soundies, GB News totally wouldn’t struggle to recruit people due to ideological clashes. Some of the biggest Farage-loving Brexit gobshites I have come across are in that line of work. In many ways the industry has a microcosm of a culture war between technical and artistic teams, each with different unions and different canteens.

Whether you'd be happy working there is one thing, whether you'd be happy with it on your CV afterwards is another matter entirely.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Bazooka on June 16, 2021, 03:24:14 PM
Boom operators don't make 100k a year.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kelvin on June 16, 2021, 03:24:23 PM
Content-wise they were criticising the Tories and agreeing with Labour, so first impressions are not of a Third Reich propaganda channel to be fair. Definitely shit though.

Part of their problem is not really committing to the idea, surely. Like it's not actually mad, edgy and controversial enough, compared to say US Fox News. Nor does it attempt to target a wider range of right wingers. It's very much your old "gammons", rather than an attempt to also reach out to your alt-right meme machines. It's a niche of a niche or a niche.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 16, 2021, 03:27:13 PM
Boom operators don't make 100k a year.

I'm sure they don't; but I don't understand how 60m is a tiny budget for technicians; you could pay your boom operators 100k a year and have 10 of them for 1.5% of the budget.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: icehaven on June 16, 2021, 03:27:38 PM
I've got to a point now with my Mum when she attempts to raise the subjects of Brexit, immigration, BLM, Harry and Meghan and MeToo I pretend I've never heard of any of them and have no idea what she's on about so I don't have an opinion. I'm hoping she never finds out this channel exists or we might never have another actual conversation.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 16, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
I wonder how many of their viewers are watching just to see how bad this is. I doubt GB News mind why people are watching just as long as they are.
Not me. Would rather watch the football.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 03:44:24 PM
I'm sure they don't; but I don't understand how 60m is a tiny budget for technicians; you could pay your boom operators 100k a years and have 10 of them of 1.5% of the budget.

Is £60m a figure you have seen they have budgeted for just their technical crew? The only mentions I can find on Google of the £60m figure have mentioned that that is how much funding they have secured rather than it being their annual budget, so a big whack of it could have gone towards marketing and regulatory stuff as well as hiring their initial “big” name presenters.

If the average - or even the top - rate of pay for their technical crew approaches anything like £100k I’d be astonished. And you’d probably be surprised how similar your post about the constraints and stresses of working in the NHS are to those you’d hear from people working in telly, obviously with a very valid conversation to be had around the worth of public health versus broadcasting.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 16, 2021, 04:23:45 PM
The cynic in me is just assuming despite the money behind it they're trying not to make it look flash and expensive so the target audience think as ever that they're getting behind some plucky band of underdogs taking on the big bad "establishment". Plus the "fereedom day" thing just seems deliberate theres no way after all this fucking build up they can be so incompetent surely?? but these thoughts probably come direct from my backside so ignore me
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 16, 2021, 04:29:19 PM
If the average - or even the top - rate of pay for their technical crew approaches anything like £100k I’d be astonished. And you’d probably be surprised how similar your post about the constraints and stresses of working in the NHS are to those you’d hear from people working in telly, obviously with a very valid conversation to be had around the worth of public health versus broadcasting.

£60m is their overall "startup" budget and a poster alluded to the idea that this budget was "tiny" with relation to securing their TV technical talent.  You could spend 10m on staff and still have plenty sloshing around for big name presenters, no doubt a significant amount of funds have gone into this.  Overall it's greed plain and simple.  I looked up a boom operators salary and it is about 25-30k so I'm just struggling to understand how the budgets could be tiny and the technical staff so expensive.

My broader point is

I know freelancers in the entertainment and PR industry that get paid a ridiculous amount of money; one person I know that works for a well known football clubs PR division gets paid 30k per annum........for working 6 hours a week (less as there is a break between seasons) that's about £100 an hour; there are plenty freelancers charging incredible fees and morally underwriting it by saying how they are insecure, don't get paid holidays/sick days; as if everyone chooses to do jobs because they are secure.

These days are gone.  You are no longer in a job for life and getting paid a shitload of money upfront that you then put in investments is infinitely better than running the gauntlet of not losing your poorly paid job before any redundancy payment kicks in (and even then it could just be statutory).

It just pisses me off as it's desperately close to the same bullshit as "the entrepreneurs" being all "brave" who most of are just trusties trying to craft a job that suits them and their lifestyles.  Seen it all mate, grown up with them (around them I should say); have lots of friends that are them and I just don't think we should be entertaining this idea that freelancers by default (as mentioned brickies, plumbers, and lot of other self-employed people on poor wages is different thing) have is as hard as most public/salaried essential workers.  They don't. 

They choose jobs because they don't want to work for someone else and have their independence (yeah don't we all) and then bang on about how difficult and how much of an imposition it is; no it isn't, it's the exact opposite it's liberating that is why you are doing it you donut; then there is yeah but if work dries up for me then I don't have any security.....yeah you do you have the same security as everyone else; social security but you've can't claim it can you because of all the money you've got in your bank account already; aww it must be such a burden.  They go on like other peoples jobs are secure as if they are being paid for their bravery to be in a position to take advantage of non-PAYE tax loopholes.  Seriously I've heard people go on like it literally is a burden and how lucky people are to be salaried, yet for some reason, don't do their job in a salaried fashion or pack in this "terrible existence" as an over-paid freelancer.

I absolutely love my friends that are in these kind of thing; they are no bad people; they are just lying to themselves and others in order to cover up their embarrassment at how shit it is for lots of other people; it's a defensive manoeuvre and I'm just saying it should be called out.  If you are getting massive day rates for work that are very likely not providing much of a social good or are based in comparatively easier labour that that carried out by nurses or health service PAYE technical staff on a daily basis then just shut up and enjoy your nice ride no need to try legitimise this stuff with valiant tales of victimhood  that no one believes it anyway.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 04:43:00 PM
I imagine that 'technical budget is a 'technical operations' budget so also includes leasing/buying equipment, paying Virgin/Sky/Freeview to carry the channel, paying Aquiva to do the distribution to them, paying some company to surface the epg data.

I know a guy in broadcast telling me how they'd paid for a hyper-expensive box that was essentially multiple servers in a 1 u rack because it was cheaper than renting the space at some co-located site.

It's 'broadcast' is a bit like 'wedding' where if you go somewhere they give you a special menu.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 16, 2021, 04:48:33 PM
Also, just like a wedding, GB News is packed with pissed up racist uncles.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 16, 2021, 05:01:31 PM
The cynic in me is just assuming despite the money behind it they're trying not to make it look flash and expensive so the target audience think as ever that they're getting behind some plucky band of underdogs taking on the big bad "establishment". Plus the "fereedom day" thing just seems deliberate theres no way after all this fucking build up they can be so incompetent surely?? but these thoughts probably come direct from my backside so ignore me

Yes, exactly. Was about to post almost precisely this but you beat me to it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Perplexicon on June 16, 2021, 05:11:16 PM
Now GB News is confirmed to be shit, can everyone stop talking about it???? Don't give these joyless fuckers the attention they need. I don't want to see shit like the @GBNewsFails twitter in my timeline, which is probably run by GBNews themselves.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 05:24:48 PM
My broader point is

I know freelancers in the entertainment and PR industry that get paid a ridiculous amount of money; one person I know that works for a well known football clubs PR division gets paid 30k per annum........for working 6 hours a week (less as there is a break between seasons) that's about £100 an hour; there are plenty freelancers charging incredible fees and morally underwriting it by saying how they are insecure, don't get paid holidays/sick days; as if everyone chooses to do jobs because they are secure.

I don’t disagree with this, but I don’t think that sound and camera operators in telly are a valid target of that particular line of criticism. It’s an odds-on certainty that GB News will have sloshed those sorts of figures on some PR wanks, though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 05:29:44 PM
I've got to a point now with my Mum when she attempts to raise the subjects of Brexit, immigration, BLM, Harry and Meghan and MeToo I pretend I've never heard of any of them and have no idea what she's on about so I don't have an opinion. I'm hoping she never finds out this channel exists or we might never have another actual conversation.

This is me with my mother-in-law. It’s got to the point where I genuinely don’t have an opinion on some of the topics she likes to rant about, because I know what those sorts of topics are so choose to avoid any articles or other content which talks about 5G microchips being implanted in kneeling footballers by George Soros. Besides the name I honestly don’t really know who Soros is, because I know that it’s more beneficial to my life to be able to claim ignorance and have the cunt explain to me who he is and what he’s done and why it’s bad.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 16, 2021, 05:30:52 PM
I don’t disagree with this, but I don’t think that sound and camera operators in telly are a valid target of that particular line of criticism. It’s an odds-on certainty that GB News will have sloshed those sorts of figures on some PR wanks, though.

Yep and you are right here I can't say I know any sound or camera operators that fit the bill of what I'm ranting at.

Sorry I'm in one of those annoyed stressed out modes today.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 16, 2021, 05:49:20 PM
Yep and you are right here I can't say I know any sound or camera operators that fit the bill of what I'm ranting at.

Sorry I'm in one of those annoyed stressed out modes today.

No worries, felt like we were in danger of getting needlessly at loggerheads so felt like I’d best clarify specifically where I disagree!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 16, 2021, 05:58:06 PM
Andrew Neil just seems like that kind of creep who'd be a perv to young interns. Lots of hands on knees and "We should have a drink later"s.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blumf on June 16, 2021, 06:57:05 PM
Just had a quick look, was an ad break, but the ads were shown in a frame. I think it's so they can keep the ticker going whilst still showing the full ad. I note Sky News doesn't do that.

Presumably, the ticker is considered the main hook. Wonder how happy the advertisers are.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 16, 2021, 07:23:04 PM
I see the Loony Left PC brigade Corbynista cultists at these woke brands have stuck the boot in. Typical of these metropolitan elites to try and sabotage a true voice of the people.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: buttgammon on June 16, 2021, 08:00:57 PM
Andrew Neil just seems like that kind of creep who'd be a perv to young interns. Lots of hands on knees and "We should have a drink later"s.

(https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/andrew-neil.jpg)

GB News intern and Neil, pictured today.

(Too cheap and obvious?)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 16, 2021, 10:30:09 PM
McCoy isn't having a great one, is he?

https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails/status/1405197435551555591

https://twitter.com/back_the_BBC/status/1405202667677392902

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 10:31:09 PM
Just had a quick look, was an ad break, but the ads were shown in a frame. I think it's so they can keep the ticker going whilst still showing the full ad. I note Sky News doesn't do that.

Presumably, the ticker is considered the main hook. Wonder how happy the advertisers are.

But tickers are what defines 'rolling news' and they claimed they're not that.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 16, 2021, 10:51:37 PM
McCoy isn't having a great one, is he?

https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails/status/1405197435551555591

He's reading this thread.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mobius on June 16, 2021, 11:17:14 PM
wrestling fans will be amused to see Cultaholic's Adam Pacitti on GB News

https://twitter.com/UberKaninchen/status/1405273728066359297
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: bgmnts on June 16, 2021, 11:19:31 PM
Ha that's great.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 16, 2021, 11:30:19 PM
Not sure jobbies is the best person to be talking about alternate realities, mind.

Quote
A TV news channel for people sick of being reminded by all the real news that they've turned the country into an international laughing stock is a great idea, actually.
Launching it & immediately becoming a national laughing stock, not so much.

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1405204618452275201
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: daf on June 17, 2021, 12:12:42 AM
McCoy isn't having a great one, is he?

https://twitter.com/back_the_BBC/status/1405202667677392902

Classic Partridge!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: non capisco on June 17, 2021, 12:27:20 AM
There'll be two right wing twins sitting watching GB News tonight wondering why none of their opinions are being read out. "So much for GB News. These lot are the same woke snowflakes as everywhere else, too scared of saying what people really think!" spits Holden McGroyne to his brother Robin.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: monkfromhavana on June 17, 2021, 08:17:28 AM
I still lean towards the conspiratorial line that all this is a way of getting free stories into the press. The "Mike Hunt" stuff is very tabloid-friendly stuff that gets lapped up by hunts. Wouldn't surprise if, after they've rinsed the poor quality/funny names angle, that the quality suddenly jumps up.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 17, 2021, 08:44:35 AM
In fairness, you’d expect something like this to be ropey at first, wouldn’t you? I mean if there was a left-wing rival station to this would it be any less shit at the beginning? I doubt it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fry on June 17, 2021, 10:32:33 AM
Yes, however the one thing I can tell for sure from his twitter feed is that Brillo has an incredibly outsized ego. I first suspected it from the way he would respond to 30-follower accounts making slight dig with some shitty point about their spelling and grammar, quote tweeting them and hoping to publicly humiliate them. My suspicions were confirmed when he spent 60 mil creating an entire news channel just so he could host a primetime news show based around him airing all of his petty greviences with the modern world.

No doubt the fact his name is currently associated with such dogshit is killing him.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 17, 2021, 10:36:46 AM
With £60 million being pumped into this thing you'd expect it not to look and sound so shit. Novara Media for example has technical problems from time to time but its funded by its subscribers only.

Also, if the team are doing it deliberately I'm not sure the 'talent' would be so happy made to look so absolutely  ridiculous on purpose. It's a hell of a gamble and a huge risk that might end up ruining their career.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 17, 2021, 10:55:57 AM
I still lean towards the conspiratorial line that all this is a way of getting free stories into the press. The "Mike Hunt" stuff is very tabloid-friendly stuff that gets lapped up by hunts. Wouldn't surprise if, after they've rinsed the poor quality/funny names angle, that the quality suddenly jumps up.

yes and i suppose the advertisers pulling out is just a false flag
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: phantom_power on June 17, 2021, 10:59:38 AM
I don't think we can rule out the possibility that these people are just thick, talentless blowhards with ideas above their station
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 17, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
https://www.thenational.scot/news/19378974.gb-news-prankster-flashes-bum-live-segment-laurence-fox/

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 17, 2021, 11:42:50 AM
These people are too easy to troll

(https://i.imgur.com/Y2yHPfQ.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on June 17, 2021, 11:55:45 AM
Surely they can't be that stupid or incompetent to let Michael Cunt-Stinks through. They have to be doing it deliberately for exposure.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on June 17, 2021, 12:03:39 PM
the idea that right wing grifters are playing 4D chess, being deliberately shit, etc., is absolute nonsense. they believe this stuff, are pushing a deliberate agenda of dissensus, and have en masse gone for it. getting twitterbrains to talk about it is an ancilliary benefit that is inevitable.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steve98 on June 17, 2021, 12:20:52 PM
Dear Sir,
            Might I suggest that viewers like Michael Cunt-Stinks, Mike Cocks-Rancid et al grow up?

Yours
Dick Saul-Spotty.

Newp age.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fry on June 17, 2021, 12:33:21 PM
Argh, I do see why people might suspect the shitness is the tactic. I switched over to the channel just for a second and was immediately met with a presenter getting cut off halfway through a sentence by a weather report. Like, I had the channel on for less than 10 seconds and there was a mistake. It's almost too much to be accidental.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on June 17, 2021, 12:34:27 PM
I read that they've now brought in a policy of not reading out viewers' surnames. As an alternative to, you know, thinking before reading something out.

Expect lots of correspondence from people called Dick and Fanny.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on June 17, 2021, 12:37:06 PM
Just watched the live stream for the first time. Right away there was a reporter not realising she was still live on air, absent-mindedly twirling her hair.

Is this stuff relentless?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 17, 2021, 12:39:46 PM
A viewer named Aliktofuckalnite says that she thinks Northern Ireland should do the Scotland thing.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 17, 2021, 12:42:48 PM
the idea that right wing grifters are playing 4D chess, being deliberately shit, etc., is absolute nonsense. they believe this stuff, are pushing a deliberate agenda of dissensus, and have en masse gone for it. getting twitterbrains to talk about it is an ancilliary benefit that is inevitable.

Yep. I wish well-meaning 'libs' would stop tweeting about this fucking shitshow, it's incredibly counterproductive.

Discussing it on an obscure comedy forum* is fine, obviously, but taking the piss out of it on Twitter is playing right into their gammony hands.

* Hi Reece!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on June 17, 2021, 12:45:06 PM
Haha Simon McCoy just read out a letter from a Ms. Alice Rancid Piss All In Your Child's Face You Pathetic CUNT
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fry on June 17, 2021, 12:47:42 PM
Just watched the live stream for the first time. Right away there was a reporter not realising she was still live on air, absent-mindedly twirling her hair.

Is this stuff relentless?
I can't figure it out, it has to be on purpose.

But as somebody mentioned upthread, I can't imagine most of the technical crew being happy to purposefully have their name associated with such shitty awful production. Add on to that so far its only technical glitches, but what happens when their incompetence lets something truly awful occur on air (other than displaying as much of Brendan O'Neil's face as could conceivably fit on a modern television), advertisers won't be too chuffed with that.

Yep. I wish well-meaning 'libs' would stop tweeting about this fucking shitshow, it's incredibly counterproductive.



Recently one of those maniac post-leftists went on a rant about how anti-racists actually love racism because if racism didn't exist they wouldn't have anything to campaign against. Absolute nonsense, of course. But I do suspect the same logic may be applied to some of the people who are going to be posting shit come-backs to the outrage merchants on that channel. They would much prefer GB news to succeed as it gives them yet another rich vein to mine for easy twitter engagement.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 17, 2021, 12:52:57 PM
That bellend Scottish comedian who ran for Laurence Fox's party and only got about 100 votes was on Dan Wootton's show last night talking about how woke nonsense is killing comedy. In the left hand corner it said he was in a place called 'Newscastle'.
It's pretty pathetic that the only person they could get is a comedian no cunt has heard of
Almost as if wokeist cancel culture isn't really that big a thing.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 17, 2021, 12:58:21 PM
Michael Cunt Smells is a great bit of meta I've never seen before
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 17, 2021, 01:05:11 PM
Somebody suggested maybe they’re hiring rookies and students - perhaps they’ve been infiltrated by a fifth column?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 17, 2021, 01:14:22 PM
Yep. I wish well-meaning 'libs' would stop tweeting about this fucking shitshow, it's incredibly counterproductive.

Discussing it on an obscure comedy forum* is fine, obviously, but taking the piss out of it on Twitter is playing right into their gammony hands.

* Hi Reece!

Whilst I have some sympathy for this oft-repeated view, it does smack a bit of shit teachers telling bullied kids to ignore being teased because the bullies will eventually get bored.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 17, 2021, 01:37:23 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ezUvqak.jpg)

hxxps://www.gbnews.uk/news/covid-no-jab-no-job-ministers-to-make-vaccine-mandatory-for-care-home-workers/106179 (http://hxxps://www.gbnews.uk/news/covid-no-jab-no-job-ministers-to-make-vaccine-mandatory-for-care-home-workers/106179)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 17, 2021, 02:13:03 PM
Whilst I have some sympathy for this oft-repeated view, it does smack a bit of shit teachers telling bullied kids to ignore being teased because the bullies will eventually get bored.

That analogy did occur to me, yes, but I'm specifically talking about people tweeting GB News directly to take this piss with unoriginal witticisms. It's not helpful, it's not funny, and the whole thing makes me feel despondent. But at least that's one more reason to despise Andrew Neil. Swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on June 17, 2021, 02:21:22 PM
Wasn't around yesterday so catching up... On the 'tiny budget' thing, GB News annual running costs are quoted at £25 million a year (https://www.ft.com/content/32078324-d4b5-44a9-b457-b3184c54b8bc) (the £60m is for the startup costs and covering losses until it hopes to reach profitability in three years). That comes in at around £3,000 per hour for everything - presenters, editorial staff, technical staff, admin staff, equipment leasing, rent, transmission and EPG costs, telecoms, etc. etc. - which compared to everyone else really is tiny.

I can't find a published figure for Sky News running costs, but that has been quoted as losing £40m per year (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42370822) with Sky having spent over £1 billion on it since its foundation. That also has the advantage that it is part of a wider company so can save on staff, premises, technical and other costs while GB News is almost entirely stand-alone. Five years back, BBC daytime TV cost between £10k and £60k (http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/site/tariff_prices_for_independents.pdf) per hour. Someone once told me QVC is around £4k per hour.

Rather than any attempt to deliberately do bad TV, I think it's more that people like Andrew Neil have never paid much attention to all the work that goes on behind the scenes and just assumed that all somehow automatically happened as it does on the BBC and Sky.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 17, 2021, 03:01:31 PM
Yeah I was very suspicious that the planet-sized ego of Andrew Neil would ever let him purposefully produce Garth Marenghi's Newsround.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 17, 2021, 03:09:09 PM
Yeah I was very suspicious that the planet-sized ego of Andrew Neil would ever let him purposefully produce Garth Marenghi's Newsround.

Laughed.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 17, 2021, 03:13:58 PM
They do know Alexander Graham Bell was a Scot?

Not to be pedantic (actually I fucking love being pedantic) but he’d probably be considered a Canadian these days. He left the UK aged 23 and lived in cape breton (and southern Ontario) for the rest of his life as far as I remember. Canada was still a dominion back then so his citizenship wouldn’t have formally changed, but anyone doing that post-1982 would become naturalized within ~6-10 years.

Not interesting but there you go.

I can be reached at the usual address for more tedious posting about eastern Canada, immigration law, or the Canadian legal system and the Constitution Act.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 17, 2021, 03:23:34 PM
Efefefetch the fereedom Granville

Proper cackled at that.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 17, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Right, I’ve caught up with this thread now and look forward to reading about the continuing adventures of Brillo and the Long Hair One From Coast.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 17, 2021, 04:24:42 PM
Somebody suggested maybe they’re hiring rookies and students - perhaps they’ve been infiltrated by a fifth column?
I was thinking the same thing. GB News aren't going to pay the going-rate wages for proper television crew.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: RicoMNKN on June 17, 2021, 07:16:40 PM
Rather than any attempt to deliberately do bad TV, I think it's more that people like Andrew Neil have never paid much attention to all the work that goes on behind the scenes and just assumed that all somehow automatically happened as it does on the BBC and Sky.

Yeah, I thought similar when I saw a clip of Simon McCoy having a strop.

Lots of the production team are on LinkedIn.  There are about 100 producers and 3 technical staff, lots of whom were in junior roles last year.  There is something very Apprentice challenge about it all.  I imagine a lot of people involved at the top don't appreciate that most jobs take skill, learning and qualifications, instead of just talking your way into it and doing very little.  Massive hubris.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on June 17, 2021, 07:28:36 PM
Just seen a clip of Simon McCoy having to describe three cute/funny pictures because they weren't able to show them.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 17, 2021, 08:12:08 PM
They've nearly spelt all of 'GB' right!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4Gv4IGXEAImkM_?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on June 17, 2021, 08:15:58 PM
Just seen a clip of Simon McCoy having to describe three cute/funny pictures because they weren't able to show them.

I told them that reviving Rolf Harris Cartoon Club was a mistake
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 17, 2021, 08:18:34 PM
They've nearly spelt all of 'GB' right!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4Gv4IGXEAImkM_?format=jpg&name=medium)

Okay maybe they are doing it on purpose.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fry on June 17, 2021, 08:25:02 PM
It would contribute to my growing suspicion that the sole aim of the UK news media is to gaslight and antagonise us until we go collectively insane.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 17, 2021, 08:28:29 PM
Okay maybe they are doing it on purpose.

Nah. B/N keyboard adjacency + sausage fingers + direct feed updates.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 17, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
I don't think they're doing it deliberately, it's just really shit and they've massively underestimated how difficult and expensive this stuff actually is.

I also don't think taking the piss out of how shonky it is is playing into their hands. They kind of hate shares they want are people fuming about some shit trolling opinion someone's had not lols about not being able to spell simple words or clips of people defending Epstein. Neil is a serious operator who will be fuming about all this.

The mockery means, imo, that there's chance of strangling this thing at birth.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on June 17, 2021, 08:38:45 PM
You're right. I was just annoyed by bores on Twitter saying "Have you seen THIS??? LOL!!!"

Lesson: stop looking at Twitter. It's not good for one's mental health.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2021, 09:28:57 PM
GB News Juniors


God how fucking depressing
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 17, 2021, 09:52:17 PM
Just seen a clip of Simon McCoy having to describe three cute/funny pictures because they weren't able to show them.

https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails/status/1405564619037581319

He looks like he's barely keeping it together. Do you think this is what he hoped he be doing when he got into journalism.

This is quite something too:

https://twitter.com/TheoPaphitis/status/1405599510412333056
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2021, 09:59:55 PM
Heh. "Sidekick Simon"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Thomas on June 17, 2021, 10:01:44 PM
Quote
I'm hopping mad and I want something in the middle! They won't let me back in the BBC.

- Simon McCoy one week from now.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on June 17, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
No one can quit for fear of being labelled part of the wokerati. This is it
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: non capisco on June 17, 2021, 10:04:13 PM
https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails/status/1405564619037581319
He looks like he's barely keeping it together. Do you think this is what he hoped he be doing when he got into journalism.

The bit where he quietly seethes the words "take it from me" from the description of the dog is fucking brilliant.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Steven88 on June 17, 2021, 10:41:53 PM
GB News Juniors


God how fucking depressing
(https://external-preview.redd.it/Cog2fbrkv5rWuJCJhOha3e9eNQPPFsNeGrQ7m0aYI-s.jpg?auto=webp&s=673c92d85ddaf1f656539f5182123b1f11083e95)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 17, 2021, 10:54:00 PM
Lesson: stop looking at Twitter. It's not good for one's mental health.

Bang on.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on June 17, 2021, 10:59:00 PM
While I'm not convinced they'd deliberately make the broadcasts THIS shit, I'm open to the idea that the GB News Fails twitter account is run by them to make the best of a bad situation and get some more 'reach'
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 18, 2021, 01:13:27 AM
My man Madeley is caught up in all this? For shame, he doesn’t know any better.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottRuth/status/1405057516548075521?s=20

Edit: he’s Canadian? Oh god.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 18, 2021, 01:34:19 AM
My man Madeley is caught up in all this? For shame, he doesn’t know any better.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottRuth/status/1405057516548075521?s=20

Edit: he’s Canadian? Oh god.

That clip is incredible. WATCH IT PEOPLE, HE DOES A THING WITH HIS GLASSES
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mobius on June 18, 2021, 01:59:58 AM
My sister sent me that clip the other day "Pure Partridge" in her words and she's not wrong.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 18, 2021, 02:15:00 AM
Who does he say we hanged after Nuremberg? I can't tell if it's "twelve hundred people" or "Kwelpar Peenar".
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 18, 2021, 02:28:48 AM
Simon McCoy in his mad little news pod.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Barry Admin on June 18, 2021, 03:40:47 AM
Who does he say we hanged after Nuremberg? I can't tell if it's "twelve hundred people" or "Kwelpar Peenar".

"Quite a few Nazis", but he slurs Nazis a bit.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 18, 2021, 05:01:40 AM
While I'm not convinced they'd deliberately make the broadcasts THIS shit, I'm open to the idea that the GB News Fails twitter account is run by them to make the best of a bad situation and get some more 'reach'

I've been thinking much the same.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 18, 2021, 09:22:45 AM
https://twitter.com/GBNewsFails/status/1405564619037581319

He looks like he's barely keeping it together. Do you think this is what he hoped he be doing when he got into journalism.
What important news stories. A van got covered with shit. A kitten nearly baked to death while entering the country illegally. A puppy goes to daycare.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 18, 2021, 09:36:10 AM
My man Madeley is caught up in all this? For shame, he doesn’t know any better.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottRuth/status/1405057516548075521?s=20

Edit: he’s Canadian? Oh god.

Did love how Reid Starts off reacting like a bored teenager rolling her eyes at an embarrassing uncle but ends up tensely turned sideways looking at him with a look of panic.

He did this one the other day too:
https://twitter.com/TheBishF1/status/1402166219562799106
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 18, 2021, 09:50:04 AM
While I'm not convinced they'd deliberately make the broadcasts THIS shit, I'm open to the idea that the GB News Fails twitter account is run by them to make the best of a bad situation and get some more 'reach'

Not sure it makes sense for them to run a Twitter account that compiles all the funny stuff so that no one has to watch the channel to see them.
I think you're giving them FAR too much credit.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 18, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
Did love how Reid Starts off reacting like a bored teenager rolling her eyes at an embarrassing uncle but ends up tensely turned sideways looking at him with a look of panic.

I presume they're just sitting farther apart due to Covid and the images have been merged to make them appear closer, rather than filmed in different locations?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 18, 2021, 11:16:57 AM
The gammons have now got #gbnewswins trending on Twitter.
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Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on June 18, 2021, 11:21:24 AM
Of course they have , the sensitive little dears.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 18, 2021, 11:22:00 AM
"Quite a few Nazis", but he slurs Nazis a bit.

Of course he does. He's got his top two buttons and his bowtie undone and he's struggling to keep a big measure of whisky in the glass in that video, isn't he?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 18, 2021, 11:22:14 AM
I presume they're just sitting farther apart due to Covid and the images have been merged to make them appear closer, rather than filmed in different locations?

Not sure what spacing has to do with it really? This is just funny:
(https://i.imgur.com/tjSwnKC.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on June 18, 2021, 11:38:04 AM
YOU'RE VIEWS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME

(https://iili.io/nst7qP.md.jpg) (https://freeimage.host/i/nst7qP)

SPEAK YOU'RE BRANES
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 18, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
A surprising lack of Union Jack's behind GB presenters. I would have thought the studio would be covered in them
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 18, 2021, 11:45:19 AM
I actually find Richard Madeley thinking about trying and hanging indoctrinated children to be just too dark to be comical really
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 18, 2021, 11:45:41 AM
Their set is so badly lit and dim it's really not very good for their black presenters is it?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 18, 2021, 11:50:07 AM
A surprising lack of Union Jack's behind GB presenters. I would have thought the studio would be covered in them

(https://i.imgur.com/Kwq80PJ.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Consignia on June 18, 2021, 11:51:16 AM
Their set is so badly lit and dim it's really not very good for their black presenters is it?

All the set testing was done under Andrew Neil's fluorescent gammon face, so no surprises of this outcome.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: bomb_dog on June 18, 2021, 12:04:56 PM
The gammons have now got #gbnewswins trending on Twitter.

Give it time, those woke lib leftards will probably get around to trending #GBeebies
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Thursday on June 18, 2021, 12:12:59 PM
The gammons have now got #gbnewswins trending on Twitter.

Presumably helped by people saying "I see that #gbnewswins is trending, if you think that, you're a cockwomble!!!"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 18, 2021, 12:14:48 PM
Wait fuck me. This actually said stonger.

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1405280153949720579?s=19

Work it hader, make it beter
Do it fater, makes us stonger
More than ever, hour ater hour

Wok is never over
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ron Maels Moustache on June 18, 2021, 01:03:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6POFLZ2.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 18, 2021, 01:16:02 PM
SPEAK YOU'RE BRANES

That takes me back. I was a semi-regular contributor to SYB back in the day.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: MoreauVasz on June 18, 2021, 01:25:11 PM
I'm glad that someone is brave enough to say it: We should hang more children.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: phantom_power on June 18, 2021, 01:32:10 PM
Isn't he saying the opposite? That we didn't punish child Nazis so we shouldn't punish Begum? Or am I giving him too much credit?
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Post by: Cuellar on June 18, 2021, 01:33:55 PM
That was how I took it, mainly because the other interpretation is surely too insanse even more Madeley
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Gradual Decline on June 18, 2021, 01:34:38 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/gb-news-week-1-it-takes-until-tuesday-to-go-full-wingnut-1.4596133
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 18, 2021, 01:38:14 PM
I think he just thinks it's "something to reflect on" rather than it being basically a shut case you don't try groomed children as adults.

All the stories don't discuss the ambiguity, because it keeps it getting shared. Win win all round. We're so good at telly.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: DrGreggles on June 18, 2021, 01:52:00 PM
Their set is so badly lit and dim it's really not very good for their black presenters is it?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HVy_8XEAEE9jw?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steve98 on June 18, 2021, 02:00:22 PM
"Blooby blobby blob... blobby blobby blob blob blobby..."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on June 18, 2021, 02:01:34 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HVy_8XEAEE9jw?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Max Headroom has let himself go.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 18, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
Catch the wave? Sounds a bit woke.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Farenheit on June 18, 2021, 02:33:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HVy_8XEAEE9jw?format=jpg&name=900x900)

I'm imagining him audibly heavy breathing like later-season Tony Soprano.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Farenheit on June 18, 2021, 02:34:01 PM
A surprising lack of Union Jack's behind GB presenters. I would have thought the studio would be covered in them

And no poppies!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Spoon of Ploff on June 18, 2021, 02:37:15 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HVy_8XEAEE9jw?format=jpg&name=900x900)

(https://i.imgur.com/5JGQ89z.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 18, 2021, 02:44:16 PM
the incurious tomato
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 18, 2021, 02:58:56 PM
It's become abundantly clear from these screenshots that the person sitting in front of their caption generator is not just in a hurry, but is also illiterate.

Today I've managed to actually be in front of the TV for McCoy & Phillips' run, so I'll give it the proper go I promised earlier in the week (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,85644.msg4585095.html#msg4585095).
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 18, 2021, 03:05:03 PM
Kicked off with them both talking to the wrong camera (about 70° off!), but we couldn't hear them, the music bed running instead.  Then, after about 30 seconds, it cut to the right camera, but the music bed continued as they mouthed the headlines to that camera.

Once they played the post-headlines bumper, we got their sound back. They didn't seem to know, as no apology issued.

Still sounds like they're in a bathroom.
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Post by: Kelvin on June 18, 2021, 03:10:22 PM
This litany of hubris, incompetence and corner cutting really highlights why the world they run is so fucked. 
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 18, 2021, 03:14:20 PM
Absolutely no way someone with an ego the size of Neil's is going to allow the station to be dogshit 'on purpose'. It's just dogshit run by useless arseholes for wankers.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 18, 2021, 03:33:55 PM
To be fair, after that awful start, they conducted an excellent 10+ minute in-depth interview with RTÉ's Europe Editor in Brussels about the whole Edwin Poots / border issues situation, and then a constructive 5 minute chat between themselves about 18+ now able to get vaccinated.

Then 2 mins of weather (Met Office, nice enough graphics), and now 2 mins of adverts.

Oh God, a link-up now with their Welsh and North East reporters (about things reopening post-pandemic; posh wedding venues and theatres respectively)  The Welsh lady has slapback echo on, just as on Monday, only it's weirder, almost like it has reverb on it too.  Oooh, they finally fixed it, after about two minutes.  Ah, I think it's that they're not turning down the studio sound, so we're hearing her feed to McCoy & Phillips echoing round their bathroom first before(!) the direct feed to us.

So... they don't have clip-on mics, just (an) ambient boom mike(s)?  Do they even have earpieces?  I guess that's one way to cut costs...

The link up from County Durham looks like camming on MSN Messenger from 2001.  Frozen for the last 20 seconds.

As it finished, Simon thanked them for "putting a smile on our faces; we need it!" then, following the NE people's anecdote about audio problems in the theatre, Simon quipped "Good to hear we're not the only people who get sound problems."

Adverts now, after which we've been promised Alex ranting in "The Alex Agenda", Lord help us.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 18, 2021, 03:39:41 PM
Can't they give Ben Garrison a job as their answer to "physical cartoonist" Brandt?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 18, 2021, 03:43:25 PM
Richard Madeley’s wiki page contains some lovely stuff:

Quote
In an interview in 2006, Madeley named Cuban leader Fidel Castro as the person he most despises.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 18, 2021, 03:45:30 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4HVy_8XEAEE9jw?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Sammy Wilson's got competition.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Barry Admin on June 18, 2021, 03:55:33 PM
Put it on for two minutes before they tried to play a clip which wouldn't work, so they had to describe it. Simon ending up crying laughing at something and said "I've been crying a lot lately, yes anyway..."

He's given up.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on June 18, 2021, 03:57:08 PM
Anyone ventured into a 'spoons since they reopened? Is GB News on all the tellies?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steve98 on June 18, 2021, 04:41:16 PM
It's as bad as everyone says. Irritating and boring.

I stuck it for 15 mins, until some dumb-blonde reporter talking (through a mask) about tourism-tax in Nth Wales started adding a question mark? After every question? The way they do? Like we're all simpletons? And that was it: when they start with that shit, I'm off. I can't fucking stand it.
It seems to have got even worse this last year, grrrrrrrrr.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 18, 2021, 05:21:26 PM
Wonder if Darren G is actually a bit relieved he didn't get a job at GB News.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 18, 2021, 05:21:55 PM
Wonder if Darren G is actually a bit relieved he didn't get a job at GB News.



Haha I doubt it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 18, 2021, 05:23:19 PM
Following on from here (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,85644.msg4589755.html#msg4589755), came back from the adverts and Alex asked Simon if he ever had their jingle running through his head as he was getting to sleep (as she apparently does), his reply was classic dry Simon: "I don't really get much sleep at the moment.  Can't think why."

OK she's ranting too much in The Alex Agenda for me to keep up with all of it, but the first section -- Caption: "Vegan diet just a cash cow?:" -- was about how a lot of modern vegan food is actually highly processed and (shock-horror) "made from fermenting soil mould grown in vats... add to that the fact a quarter of vegans have iron deficiency, and what is supposed to be healthy suddenly looks Really. Quite. Bad., doesn't it?"  She followed that up with "Bet Meghan Markle likes it, she looks like a vegan."  Simon looks bemused with a touch of aghast.  He says "I wonder who our lawyers are, I need to ring them!"

Caption: "Parmo and chips come under fire" after Middlesborough council advertised it as a regional delicacy... "So, it may have over 2000 calories but as long as people know that, I think it's great!"  Simon gives her a hilarious telling off saying she spends all week telling people to watch what they eat, and now she's changed her tune.  She says it's fine because she likes to celebrate the regional diversity of our food.  Simon: "Oh, you've managed to bring diversity into the diet conversation, oh good, well as long as we're being diverse, that's good, oh well, we'll tick the diversity thing... north-east, tick."

Caption: "Male rat pregnancy experiment" a Chinese university that spliced a male and female rat together and gave the male rat a uterus.  "Not only does this strike me as totally unnecessary and cruel, you'd think China would have learnt by now not to mess around with animals in labs."  Simon looks astonished.

Caption: "Animal hate crime?"  Something about animal hate crimes (verbally abusing them).  Losing the will to type.

Something about Victoria's Secret employing more diverse models but I missed it.

A still (which apparently should have been a clip?) of Prince Charles refusing to elbow-bump Matt Hancock, saying "What is this, the hokey-cokey?".  Alex says she's totally fed up with this "elbow-bumping rubbish".

Some other story I unfortunately missed entirely, she said "anti-woke agenda" and Simon said "You used the W word, we don't use the W word".  She then said something that made them both laugh a lot, especially Simon, and she said "Simon, you're crying", to which he replied "Yes, I'm crying a lot at the moment, don't know why."

Weather again but no presenter this time, just the graphics over a music bed.  Adverts, after which they were talking the build-up to tonight's football match.

And there I stopped, not helped by my TiVo -- when I was rewinding to check some of the stuff I missed -- deciding it had had enough of this shit and rebooting.


VERDICT: McCoy is his usual engaging, dry, witty, irreverent self; his co-host is fairly (but not completely) terrible.  Her comments about vegan food and China aside, not as gammony as expected.  I might try to watch some next week, perhaps on a day when something more contentious has happened.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 18, 2021, 07:00:31 PM
Watched a couple of minutes of it yesterday out of morbid curiosity, just really boring as Steve98 said. No specific screw-ups while I was watching, but the studio sounded big and echoey like a warehouse, which is the sort of thing any decently designed studio would explicitly take steps to avoid sounding like.

Where actually is their studio? Have they in fact just bunged up some sets in a warehouse somewhere?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Glebe on June 18, 2021, 08:51:50 PM
I bet Neil Oliver is secretly rooting for England to win tonight's match.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on June 18, 2021, 09:18:45 PM
I bet Neil Oliver is secretly rooting for England to win tonight's match.

I hear he has a secret dildo with all St. George's crosses on it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 18, 2021, 10:28:12 PM
I bet Neil Oliver is secretly rooting for England to win tonight's match.

It’s quite sad that this is how I discover the England team are playing.

(Or possibly have already played, I must say I don’t give a fuck.)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on June 18, 2021, 11:57:52 PM
I must say I don’t give a fuck.
Neither did the England team.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 19, 2021, 12:01:10 AM
It’s quite sad that this is how I discover the England team are playing.

(Or possibly have already played, I must say I don’t give a fuck.)

It’s been thirty years of hurt, but I daren’t ask what happened in ‘91.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Dex Sawash on June 19, 2021, 01:37:37 AM
Is the colo(u)r all fucked up or is that just from people doing phone videos and putting on Twitter?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on June 19, 2021, 08:35:14 AM
If their faces look like big red meat then no, that's normal.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: touchingcloth on June 19, 2021, 09:12:06 AM
It’s quite sad that this is how I discover the England team are playing.

(Or possibly have already played, I must say I don’t give a fuck.)

They have played and will play mate. Never stopped me dreaming mate.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on June 19, 2021, 10:58:47 AM
Quote
GB News staff PoliticsHome spoke to agreed Sunak's interview was a success, largely because it was not a tech-intensive operation. But as one said: “When it comes to the live TV side, it's a clusterfuck.”

They described scenes of chaos that far outstrip those creating so much mirth on social media. “There’s just shit coming at you from all sides,” said one.

One of the biggest problems they cited was the fact that the station’s operating systems don’t work with computers that use a firewall, meaning they can lose guests seconds before going on air. DiNA, a tool which should allow journalists to broadcast on several platforms at once, was also described as “horrendous”.

One staffer said: “Nothing works. Then they do a reboot overnight, so all the things you thought you knew are now bollocks."

This has been compounded by logistical problems with getting guests into the Covid-secure working environment. Host Alex Phillips was heard by staff venting about the lack of story choices available as a result of all this – with a heavy focus on lockdown fallout – as “shit”.

“So you go - ok, we need to go to social,” says one member of staff: “But that’s emails from Mike Oxlong and Cleo Torres.” [The channel has been plagued by people emailing with spoof names].

Another problem has been the lack of staff numbers. It has left some members of the team working 15-hour days, some starting in the early hours of the morning.

“They urgently need to recruit,” says one staff member. "But how the fuck do you recruit if you’re drowning in things to do already?"

https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/gb-news-first-week-chaos
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on June 19, 2021, 11:02:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikxAo06mdvs

I was a bit worried about Novara doing slam dunks on GB News but this is excellent. Really great analysis from Sarkar.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: bgmnts on June 19, 2021, 11:12:08 AM
Following on from here (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,85644.msg4589755.html#msg4589755), came back from the adverts and Alex asked Simon if he ever had their jingle running through his head as he was getting to sleep (as she apparently does), his reply was classic dry Simon: "I don't really get much sleep at the moment.  Can't think why."

OK she's ranting too much in The Alex Agenda for me to keep up with all of it, but the first section -- Caption: "Vegan diet just a cash cow?:" -- was about how a lot of modern vegan food is actually highly processed and (shock-horror) "made from fermenting soil mould grown in vats... add to that the fact a quarter of vegans have iron deficiency, and what is supposed to be healthy suddenly looks Really. Quite. Bad., doesn't it?"  She followed that up with "Bet Meghan Markle likes it, she looks like a vegan."  Simon looks bemused with a touch of aghast.  He says "I wonder who our lawyers are, I need to ring them!"

Caption: "Parmo and chips come under fire" after Middlesborough council advertised it as a regional delicacy... "So, it may have over 2000 calories but as long as people know that, I think it's great!"  Simon gives her a hilarious telling off saying she spends all week telling people to watch what they eat, and now she's changed her tune.  She says it's fine because she likes to celebrate the regional diversity of our food.  Simon: "Oh, you've managed to bring diversity into the diet conversation, oh good, well as long as we're being diverse, that's good, oh well, we'll tick the diversity thing... north-east, tick."

Caption: "Male rat pregnancy experiment" a Chinese university that spliced a male and female rat together and gave the male rat a uterus.  "Not only does this strike me as totally unnecessary and cruel, you'd think China would have learnt by now not to mess around with animals in labs."  Simon looks astonished.

Caption: "Animal hate crime?"  Something about animal hate crimes (verbally abusing them).  Losing the will to type.

Something about Victoria's Secret employing more diverse models but I missed it.

A still (which apparently should have been a clip?) of Prince Charles refusing to elbow-bump Matt Hancock, saying "What is this, the hokey-cokey?".  Alex says she's totally fed up with this "elbow-bumping rubbish".

Some other story I unfortunately missed entirely, she said "anti-woke agenda" and Simon said "You used the W word, we don't use the W word".  She then said something that made them both laugh a lot, especially Simon, and she said "Simon, you're crying", to which he replied "Yes, I'm crying a lot at the moment, don't know why."

Weather again but no presenter this time, just the graphics over a music bed.  Adverts, after which they were talking the build-up to tonight's football match.

And there I stopped, not helped by my TiVo -- when I was rewinding to check some of the stuff I missed -- deciding it had had enough of this shit and rebooting.


VERDICT: McCoy is his usual engaging, dry, witty, irreverent self; his co-host is fairly (but not completely) terrible.  Her comments about vegan food and China aside, not as gammony as expected.  I might try to watch some next week, perhaps on a day when something more contentious has happened.

So they're anti-vegan AND against animal abuse? All over the shop.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on June 19, 2021, 11:30:09 AM
Michael Cunt-Stinks: I was booing taking the knee
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 19, 2021, 11:39:44 AM
I like "Mike Oxlong". It's subtle.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: bgmnts on June 19, 2021, 11:45:45 AM
Mike Ox-Smelsgrim is one of my favourite fake names.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 19, 2021, 02:00:27 PM
Mike Ockerts.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on June 19, 2021, 03:12:51 PM
One I read on here once and have never forgotten:

L F N Tyne-Boner
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on June 20, 2021, 08:59:22 AM
Fucksake. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/06/19/tolerance-risks-undermined-vocal-minority-will-not-stand-allow/

Quote
Tolerance risks being undermined by a vocal minority. We will not stand by and allow that to happen

We need outlets and commentators who cover the range of the political spectrum

Oliver Dowden
19 June 2021 • 9:30pm

GB News had barely begun broadcasting when the pressure group 'Stop Funding Hate' piled pressure on advertisers to boycott it

What makes a healthy democracy? The strongest and most progressive countries share lots of qualities, but they have two vital things in common – a free and diverse media and the right to dissent. This week, a vocal Twitter minority went after both.

GB News had barely begun broadcasting when the pressure group "Stop Funding Hate" tried to stifle it, piling the pressure on advertisers to boycott Britain's newest current affairs channel for spreading "hate and division".

It came in a week when we had already witnessed free journalism under assault with the despicable harassment of the BBC journalist Nick Watt.

It seems GB News's biggest crime – or rather "pre-crime", as it's called in the dystopian Minority Report when people are proactively punished for wrongs they haven't committed yet – was to signal that it might not always agree with the media consensus.

When he launched the channel, the veteran broadcaster Andrew Neil vowed that GB News would not be "an echo chamber for the metropolitan mindset" and would "empower those who feel their concerns have been unheard".

Rightly so. A free media is one that has a diverse range of opinions and voices – and as I said earlier this week, GB News is a welcome addition to that diversity. We need outlets and commentators who cover the range of the political spectrum; who can speak truth to power; and who are willing to challenge dogma or orthodoxy.
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I've no doubt plenty of people will disagree with some of the things GB News commentators have to say – just as plenty of people disagree with the things they see and hear on the BBC, Sky News or any other media outlet. But if you don't like those ideas, switch over – don't silence. We shouldn't be blocking people from the conversation simply because we disagree with them.

That is exactly why, when we were developing legislation to boost online safety and tackle social media abuse, I was determined to make sure it couldn't be used to stifle debate. Every country is grappling with this – but I believe the UK has struck the right balance and carved a path for the rest of the world to follow with our Online Safety Bill, which we published in draft form last month.

That Bill will protect children online and help stamp out vile social media abuse including racism and misogyny. Crucially, though, it also includes strong safeguards for free speech and the freedom of the media.

There will be a new requirement for social media companies to protect freedom of expression. The largest social media platforms will need to be clear to users about what they allow on their sites, and enforce it consistently.

That means they won't be able to arbitrarily remove content – and if a user feels they have, they'll have a new right to appeal. Right now, if content is removed there is no recourse to review or in many cases even get an explanation as to why material has been taken down. Our Bill will enhance the protections in place.

We've also got special safeguards for journalistic and "democratically important" content. News publishers' content won't be in scope, whether it's on their own sites or on other online services. Journalists will also benefit from increased protections when they post on social media. The largest platforms will have to protect political opinions on their sites, even if certain activists or campaign groups don't agree with them.

Those are the grounds of a functioning democracy. Sadly, we can no longer take them for granted.

Across the West, our values of tolerance and freedom of expression, for which previous generations have fought and died, increasingly risk being undermined by a small but vocal minority. For them, these are not absolute but relative concepts, ready to be bent to silence dissent from their world view. We will not stand by and allow that to happen.

That's our Culture Secretary, there, intimating that freedom to boycott undermines democracy.
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Post by: buttgammon on June 20, 2021, 09:01:30 AM
An interesting semantic change here: democracy and free speech now mean the same thing (the inalienable right to be a cunt without fear of criticism).
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Post by: Kankurette on June 20, 2021, 09:22:03 AM
So does that mean we’re getting a left-wing channel? Also, isn’t this the government who are trying to clamp down on protests?
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Post by: Zetetic on June 20, 2021, 09:24:56 AM
Always enjoy the incompetent reference to a twenty-plus-year old film as a rhetorical device.
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Post by: Glebe on June 20, 2021, 09:59:55 AM
Neil Oliver is turning into Christopher Lee.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 20, 2021, 12:54:46 PM
Neil Oliver is turning into Christopher Lee.

Coast crossover series set in the outer Hebrides…

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/824e491b726a1ea092ecb920b6487433d3ca5904/0_7_3000_1800/master/3000.jpg?width=1200&height=900&quality=85&auto=format&fit=crop&s=7e37f0efea35fa5686229cae00efdcc2)
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 20, 2021, 01:00:11 PM
An interesting semantic change here: democracy and free speech now mean the same thing (the inalienable right to be a cunt without fear of criticism).
its not really interesting in itself, it's just they trot out this vacuous guff when something conservative is mildly decried, but stay pretty much silent when anything faintly progressive is shut down (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/jun/17/cambridge-college-ends-critical-examination-of-founder-winston-churchill)
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Post by: Paul Calf on June 20, 2021, 02:21:16 PM
That takes me back. I was a semi-regular contributor to SYB back in the day.

Do you follow Nelson (@branespeaks) on Twitter?
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 20, 2021, 11:19:44 PM
i dislike this man

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4VaIlTXwAAoWSG?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

also tom "bumlicker" harwood posted this pic which is quite interesting

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WtVgRWUAI1J3U?format=jpg&name=large)

I mean they clearly have a proper studio with a rig etc, it's just, that their set and kit is shit
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Post by: imitationleather on June 20, 2021, 11:23:32 PM
They look like two of the Borrowers sat on top of an Amazon Echo.
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Post by: DrGreggles on June 20, 2021, 11:25:39 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WtVgRWUAI1J3U?format=jpg&name=large)

Looks like he's about to be lifted out of there.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 20, 2021, 11:28:46 PM
i wish we could just teleport dan wooton and stanley johnson into the sun. wouldn't change much but it would be funny
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Post by: Bigfella on June 21, 2021, 08:49:21 AM
Rachel Johnson was just on Good Morning Britain with Susanna Reid and whoever today's guy is.  When pushed for an opinion about something she expressed concern that she might seem like a 'GB News wingnut.'  Surely she must know that her and Boris's dad Stanley was the star of the show on GBN last night?  Somd slap in the face!
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 21, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
How has this shit cost them £60m. Mind boggling.
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Post by: Glebe on June 21, 2021, 03:24:29 PM
How has this shit cost them £60m. Mind boggling.

Large part of the budget blown on fixing Neil Oliver's teeth.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 21, 2021, 03:25:51 PM
andrew neill sat on the money and all the money sunk up into his great big arse
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Post by: Glebe on June 21, 2021, 03:29:19 PM
andrew neill sat on the money and all the money sunk up into his great big arse

That reminds me... I still haven't revealed my bum... stay tuned!
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 21, 2021, 04:30:23 PM
Good response in Byline Times to the bullshit from the Culture War Secretary:

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...Which part of this do you, as Secretary of State, plan to forbid? Will you ban Stop Funding Hate (and by extension anyone else) from listing companies that advertise with particular media? Will you ban it from describing what some media publish as hate speech? Will you ban it from telling customers of those companies that they may write letters? Will you ban the customers from writing those letters? Or will you ban the advertisers from withdrawing their ads?

I am hoping that you are beginning to see the problems with your position. It is not just that it would be hard for your civil servants to draft legislation that would achieve what you think is your objective; it’s that you would very obviously be attacking what you say you are defending: freedom of expression. 

But, but, you may be thinking, Stop Funding Hate is bullying; it is “piling on the pressure on advertisers”. Companies are not acting from choice; they are being forced to bow to threats from people who say they will withdraw their custom.

I know it’s hard Oliver, but think. Customers have a right to choose with whom they do business. That’s actually a Conservative thing. You really won’t be able to change that. And companies in turn are supposed to be responsive to their markets. That’s Conservative too. What’s more, some companies reject the calls from customers and carry on as before, so the forcing? Not so much...

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/06/21/free-speech-a-beginners-guide-for-oliver-dowden/
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Post by: Bazooka on June 21, 2021, 08:38:03 PM
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But, but, you may be thinking, Stop Funding Hate is bullying; it is “piling on the pressure on advertisers”. Companies are not acting from choice; they are being forced to bow to threats from people who say they will withdraw their custom.

The author is unaware of hypocritical virtue.
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Post by: bgmnts on June 21, 2021, 08:48:11 PM
That's sort of how it works isn't it? That's capitalism.
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Post by: BlodwynPig on June 22, 2021, 07:22:56 AM
Business aids as i call it
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 22, 2021, 07:51:41 AM
Rachel Johnson was just on Good Morning Britain with Susanna Reid and whoever today's guy is.  When pushed for an opinion about something she expressed concern that she might seem like a 'GB News wingnut.'  Surely she must know that her and Boris's dad Stanley was the star of the show on GBN last night?  Somd slap in the face!

Knowing her, that's precisely why she said it.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 22, 2021, 07:56:12 AM
The author is unaware of hypocritical virtue.

They are claiming that is the argument Dowden is making, they arent agreeing with the quoted statement.
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Post by: Bazooka on June 22, 2021, 08:42:41 AM
That's quite clear, and the author doesn't understand how companies such as IKEA think.
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Post by: Dr Rock on June 22, 2021, 12:56:10 PM
I saw my first clip as it was on YouTube. They were discussing/agreeing that freedom of speech was under attack from the Woke Brigade. So predictable.
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 22, 2021, 07:36:29 PM
Amusing write-up of the channel's first week here in The Independent:

A bonanza of f**k-ups and trolling: What I learnt from being glued to GB News for a week (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/features/gb-news-review-andrew-neil-b1869871.html)
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Post by: icehaven on June 22, 2021, 08:28:28 PM
I've got to a point now with my Mum when she attempts to raise the subjects of Brexit, immigration, BLM, Harry and Meghan and MeToo I pretend I've never heard of any of them and have no idea what she's on about so I don't have an opinion. I'm hoping she never finds out this channel exists or we might never have another actual conversation.

I have done my Mum a considerable disservice. Just spoke to her and she said she'd seen a news report earlier about white children saying they hadn't got any culture, thought "this doesn't seem like the normal news" and realised she was watching GB News, and her opinion is it's total bobbins. Sorry Mum.
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Post by: Psybro on June 22, 2021, 11:16:25 PM
Some of my relatives who are the core audience had this on the other day for about five minutes before getting bored and switching to Sky News.

I don't think trolling the academic Twitter Left has the mainstream entertainment value they imagined.
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Post by: steveh on June 23, 2021, 08:43:19 AM
Ratings have been dropping steadily. Several sources quoting figures of 30-60K which is some way behind the BBC and Sky news channels.

Skimming Twitter there seem to be a load of disgruntled people on the right who think the channel is too metropolitan and establishment...
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Post by: An tSaoi on June 23, 2021, 10:48:48 AM
Skimming Twitter there seem to be a load of disgruntled people on the right who think the channel is too metropolitan and establishment...

As soon as I saw would-be fans complaining about too many women and ethnics in the publicity photos, I knew the channel wouldn't fly with the hardcore brexiteers. I think some people were hoping for a proper white-nationalist, PJW, Molyneux type show, a sort of British Rebel Media. You just can't have something like that on real telly – you can barely have it on YouTube – so they're hamstrung from the start. There needs to be a veneer of borderline respectability which you don't need on the right-wing internet. It's still awful of course, but not half as "strong" as the prospective supporters would like.
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Post by: Dr Rock on June 23, 2021, 10:53:22 AM
Wootton interviewing some no-name TERF who got banned from Twitter for agreeing with JK Rowling and tweeting there are only two sexes. I don't think this is red meat for the base.
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Post by: An tSaoi on June 23, 2021, 10:55:44 AM
Nothing less than Andrew Neil chanting SENT THEM BACK KEEP THEM OUT while Coast Man snipes migrants from atop the cliffs of Dover would satisfy the base.
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Post by: Paul Calf on June 23, 2021, 11:12:12 AM
Another eight years of far-right Tory rule and that'll look tame.
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Post by: Fry on June 23, 2021, 11:34:57 AM
Had it on for another 5 minutes today before I couldn't stand any more.

Their whole "speaking up for the unheard" thing is literally spawned from the fact that twitter tends towards younger, more left wing people. The entire channel is basically a twitter feed where they choose whats trending, they get to do the dunks and they can never be banned. Its an insane reason to start a channel, and also another reason it will fail. Same reason Gab failed. For the culture wars to work, the fun has to be in the ruck. There are no mentally ill teenagers for you to belittle and antagonise in the GB news studio.
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Post by: buttgammon on June 23, 2021, 11:53:04 AM
Nothing less than Andrew Neil chanting SENT THEM BACK KEEP THEM OUT while Coast Man snipes migrants from atop the cliffs of Dover would satisfy the base.

Too many Scotch people. WHY COULDN'T AN ENGLISH BROADCASTER BE THE SNIPER??
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Post by: An tSaoi on June 23, 2021, 11:55:05 AM
Oh no I went too woke! This is harder than it seems.
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Post by: Glebe on June 23, 2021, 02:40:21 PM
Decade-old news and they misspelt 'chekky', but this is just another example of Alastair Stewart's feckless disregard for his fellow humans:

Newsreader Alastair Stewart has cheeky cigarette near no-smoking sign. (https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/newsreader-alastair-stewart-cheeky-cigarette-1691028)

(https://i.imgur.com/1SKESit.jpg)
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Post by: Jack Shaftoe on June 23, 2021, 03:05:02 PM
It's not mad enough, it needs to be properly Alex Jones levels of 'lol this is mentals but every now and then there's something I can nod at', and I don't know if that can work in this country to that extent. I mean, I hope not. I'm sure they'll soon crank it up to find out though.
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Post by: olliebean on June 23, 2021, 09:54:25 PM
"Speaking up for the unheard?" Speaking up for the all too often heard, more like. It's boring as hell because they've got absolutely nothing to say that we haven't already heard many times, largely from people who claim they're somehow being prevented from saying it.
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Post by: SpiderChrist on June 24, 2021, 03:53:27 PM
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/06/23/india-willoughby-quits-gb-news-trans-transphobia-dan-wootton/ (https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/06/23/india-willoughby-quits-gb-news-trans-transphobia-dan-wootton/)

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“It’s a monster,” she said. “It’s an absolute nightmare… For people like me, it’s opened the gates of hell.”
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Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2021, 04:13:51 PM
She'd be familiar with the gates of hell with what she has said about refugees. Why would she think that other right-wing cunts would spare her?

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This month, record numbers of people crossing the Channel in small boats and dinghies have been reported.

When asked her opinion on the situation, India exclaimed, "Thank God for Nigel Farage! I’ll say it. The fact the French are escorting them over is awful. We’ve got Brexit and we’re leaving the EU."

Sharing her thoughts on what should be done in light of the growing numbers, "We should take control. I think it’s £100million we’ve spent on this problem. I’d go down the Trump route.

"Why not have a nice spikey barbed wire fence somewhere on the channel? Instead of using the English channel, they should use the legal channel.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 24, 2021, 05:03:21 PM
Seeing someone leave over one issue of GB news' output is a bit like watching someone walk out of a Saddowitz gig, presumably that's your red line but you were fine with all the other horrid shit.
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Post by: Dr Rock on June 24, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
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This month, record numbers of people crossing the Channel in small boats and dinghies have been reporte
"Why not have a nice spikey barbed wire fence somewhere on the channel? Instead of using the English channel, they should use the legal channel.
 

People crossing the Channel to seek asylum are not committing any unlawful act. Amway now that she has' 'officially gone Woke' she won't think that any more.

I give the channel three months, including toplesss darts style desperation
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Post by: Kankurette on June 24, 2021, 06:30:36 PM
No sympathy for her. My brother works with refugees. The things he hears are harrowing. They didn’t come here for shits and giggles. They’re fleeing war, persecution, forced conscription. And these are the ones who make it. How many don’t? If that idiot woman was living in a war zone I bet she’d want out. How desperate do you have to be to pay people smugglers out the nose to board an overcrowded little boat or dinghy and travel hundreds of miles across the sea to a strange country that doesn’t want you? Does she think they’re tourists on a jolly? I’ve read accounts from people who’ve fished the bodies of children out of the sea. They stayed with me. The irony is that Willoughby had a ‘be kind’ sign in the background.

And did she really think they weren’t going to turn on her for being trans? The anti-woke brigade hate trans people as much as they hate black people. Thought you wanted debate, India?
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 24, 2021, 09:10:41 PM
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@afneil

Coming up on Andrew Neil tonight at 8pm on

@GBNEWS

: As the pandemic fades, how the boss class is looking for new ways of telling us what to do. An interview with the founder of Extinction Rebellion. And what’s wrong with being the Earl of Dumbarton?
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Post by: DrGreggles on June 24, 2021, 09:20:05 PM
And what’s wrong with being the Earl of Dumbarton?

Dumbarton
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Post by: olliebean on June 24, 2021, 09:21:29 PM
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And what’s wrong with being the Earl of Dumbarton?

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But it was later revealed that the couple rejected the Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie, as Dumbarton contained the word 'dumb', and feared that he would be 'bullied or attract unfortunate nicknames'.
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Post by: Consignia on June 24, 2021, 09:22:06 PM
In our offices in the corridors we have TV that have previously had rolling news on them, usually BBC News 24. Now some bright spark has decided that they want everyone's liberal minds blown with GB News, so that's what they've put on. The whole point of the TVs so you can catch up on headlines after you've been wrapped in work for the past few hours. But GB News doesn't have news, it's just shitty magazine shows. Even this disregarding it's right wing bent.

Thinking of complaining to facilties to put QVC on instead.
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Post by: SpiderChrist on June 24, 2021, 09:26:45 PM
She'd be familiar with the gates of hell with what she has said about refugees. Why would she think that other right-wing cunts would spare her?

Fucking hell. I had no idea. What a cunt.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2021, 09:35:44 PM
Earl of Cumfarton
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Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
Apparently Niell has had a right old rant about Stop Funding Hate, in a very dignified and reasonable way.
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Post by: DrGreggles on June 24, 2021, 10:17:55 PM
Apparently Niell has had a right old rant about Stop Funding Hate, in a very dignified and reasonable way.

I bet he did, etc
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Post by: jobotic on June 24, 2021, 10:30:00 PM
He's quit!

Sort of. According to The Express
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on June 24, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
She'd be familiar with the gates of hell with what she has said about refugees. Why would she think that other right-wing cunts would spare her?

'I never thought leopards would eat MY face,' sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
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Post by: Kankurette on June 24, 2021, 10:50:32 PM
I googled her name and Mumsnet to see whether they think she's one of the Good Trans like Debbie Hayton. Opinion is divided, but I noticed them referring to her as 'they' quite a bit.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 24, 2021, 10:59:05 PM
haha fucking hell

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4rV6MCXoAU1514?format=jpg&name=large)
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Post by: imitationleather on June 24, 2021, 11:01:07 PM
Heaven must have wanted another news channel.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on June 24, 2021, 11:05:09 PM
I think when they came up with the idea of GB News they were counting on Trump still being in charge when it started.
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Post by: Captain Z on June 24, 2021, 11:08:48 PM
Absolute state of it.
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on June 24, 2021, 11:16:26 PM
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But it was later revealed that the couple rejected the Earl of Dumbarton title for Archie, as Dumbarton contained the word 'dumb', and feared that he would be 'bullied or attract unfortunate nicknames'.
tbf my very first thought was "Earl of Dumbarseton"
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Post by: Blumf on June 24, 2021, 11:18:54 PM
He's quit!

Sort of. According to The Express

10am

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1407990077792342016
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Andrew Neil @afneil
Great figures on @GBNEWS Andrew Neil show last night. Number one in time slot (again). Three times audience of Sky News. 26% more than BBC News Channel. And we’ve only just begun.

10 hours later

https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1454279/Andrew-Neil-GB-News-break-leaving-replaced-Colin-Brazier-announcement-video
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However, as he closed his self-titled programme on Thursday evening, Andrew announced he’d be stepping down from presenting the 8pm slot for a while, with Colin Brazier poised to step in.

Huummmm...
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Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on June 24, 2021, 11:34:26 PM
https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1454279/Andrew-Neil-GB-News-break-leaving-replaced-Colin-Brazier-announcement-video
Huummmm...

Just as well they’ve got a big name like Colin Brazier to step in to the breach.

Does this mean that GB News has already moved into its post-Farage UKIP phase where a different nonentity gets to be the boss every week or two?
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Post by: Dr Rock on June 24, 2021, 11:36:23 PM
Partridge waits for the call...
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 24, 2021, 11:46:19 PM
Perhaps realised the station doesn't have much time and using up all his paid leave in one go?
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Post by: Blumf on June 25, 2021, 01:06:37 AM
L!veTV lasted for 4 years, will GB News last 4 months?

(https://i.postimg.cc/5ybXkmVd/news-bunny-livetv.gif)
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Post by: steveh on June 25, 2021, 09:15:06 AM
Live TV became Babestation under new owners. Maybe a similar fate awaits GB News.

(In its original incarnation under Janet Street Porter I think Live TV was an interesting experiment but suffered the exact same problem as GB News that while live television is theoretically cheaper than recorded programmes, good live television is still expensive to do.)
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on June 25, 2021, 09:36:26 AM
Live TV became Babestation under new owners. Maybe a similar fate awaits GB News.

Nah, it became Babeworld, an attempt to ape Babestation. The channel was repeatedly fined by OFCOM until it had its licence revoked for showing what was effectively porn before 10pm and unencrypted.

Babestation was spun off from Gamestation, a mildly successful attempt to make a 24/7 gaming TV channel, but not as lucrative as running premium rate phone lines staffed by lasses shaking their arses at a camera.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 25, 2021, 09:59:39 AM
Nah, it became Babeworld, an attempt to ape Babestation. The channel was repeatedly fined by OFCOM until it had its licence revoked for showing what was effectively porn before 10pm and unencrypted.

Babestation was spun off from Gamestation, a mildly successful attempt to make a 24/7 gaming TV channel, but not as lucrative as running premium rate phone lines staffed by lasses shaking their arses at a camera.

Funny how it took until twitch for those two things to form a natural synergy.
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Post by: Kankurette on June 25, 2021, 11:48:22 AM
Of course Mumsnet have a pro-GB News thread. (https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/feminism/4269288-Launch-of-GB-News-Sunday-at-8pm) Though why it's in the feminist forum is beyond me when as far as I can see, the closest it gets to any feminist content is the usual 'trans women are just men in drag' crap. Which explains the MN appeal.
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Post by: steveh on June 25, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Ratings continue their downward trend...

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Audience figs for Thurs progs, by Media Monitoring Services -
@BBCNews 9am: 294k
@SkyNews Ian King: 42k
@GBNEWS Brazier & Muroki: 11k
@BBCNews 1pm: 2.4million
@GBNEWS DePerio & Halligan: 16k
@BBCNewsnight: 286k
@bbcquestiontime: 1.3m
ITV News at Ten: 1.5m
BBC News at Ten: 3.6m
Andrew Neil: 31k

https://twitter.com/vicderbyshire/status/1408370264077910021
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 25, 2021, 02:07:00 PM
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/06/23/india-willoughby-quits-gb-news-trans-transphobia-dan-wootton/ (https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/06/23/india-willoughby-quits-gb-news-trans-transphobia-dan-wootton/)

More manufactured Culture War outrage:

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The panel covered various stories during the show, but eventually began to discuss the recent news that London’s private St Paul’s Girls’ School has replaced its “head girl” title with “head of school”.

The school had been clear that the change was requested by students themselves, and that although it was partly for reasons of non-binary inclusion, it was mainly because many of the students felt that they are young women rather than girls.

“As far as GB News was concerned”, Willoughby said, “it was about ‘nutty’ non-binary people. ‘Aren’t they crazy?’ That sort of thing. It was a joke.”

Seeing someone leave over one issue of GB news' output is a bit like watching someone walk out of a Saddowitz gig, presumably that's your red line but you were fine with all the other horrid shit.

Likewise, quitting GB News because they ran an item on fake Culture War bullshit is like quitting a job at Ikea because you were asked to sell an item of flat-pack furniture.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 25, 2021, 02:13:49 PM
And what's wrong with being the Earl of Dumbarton?

That's a reference to the Telegraph's complete non-story cobbled together from baseless gossip exclusive report by Camilla Tominey (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,87462.msg4595646.html#msg4595646) that Bants and Syoots refused to accept the title "Earl of Dumbarton" for little ArchieBALD because it contains the word "dumb", which is American for "stupid", and Bants likes American things now.

In truth it seems that Baby Bants can't accept the title because the current Earl of Dumbarton is his dad, and he isn't dead yet.

They are "rejecting the title" in the same way that Charles is currently rejecting the title of King.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 25, 2021, 02:18:56 PM
Likewise, quitting GB News because they ran an item on fake Culture War bullshit is like quitting a job at Ikea because you were asked to sell an item of flat-pack furniture.

Well not just any item - a flat pack chaise-lounge or some very specific thing that was beyond the pale, while acknowledging that yes vending every other item of furniture under the sun in flat pack format is absolutely fine and within your moral wheelhouse.

In this analogy, she made it a week before some punter requested a Söderhamn in “viarp-beige” at which point it had all gone too far and she had to leave the building[1].
 1. by following the arrows around the lighting section, through the loading bit and out past the canteen.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 25, 2021, 02:20:50 PM
Incidentally Wills and Kate gladly accepted their own Scottish titles, "Earl and Countess of Strathearn", because "Strathearn" contains "hearn" and they are great admirers of jammy fucking chancer and snooker boss Barry Hearn.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 25, 2021, 02:22:09 PM
Incidentally Wills and Kate gladly accepted their own Scottish titles, "Earl and Countess of Strathearn", because "Strathearn" contains "hearn" and they are great admirers of jammy fucking chancer and snooker boss Barry Hearn.

Both also favour the Stratocaster over the telecaster like the absolute wrong uns they are.

And it contains “the” and the couple are noted for their preference of the definite article over the indefinite article. Although Strathearn also has an “a” in it so they’re covered there and all.

There is much symbolism in their mindless acceptance of meaningless gongs (and associated financial benefit) at taxpayers expense.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 25, 2021, 02:24:57 PM
Alright, the truth is Baby Bants rejected "Earl of Dumbarton" because Barton Fink isn't his favourite of the Coen Brothers' oeuvre, but personally I can't blame him for holding out for "Lord Lebowski".
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 25, 2021, 02:28:07 PM
There’s a lebowski joke about an IKEA rug bringing the whole room together which would tie up this page quite nicely, but fucked if I have the energy for it.
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Post by: imitationleather on June 25, 2021, 02:30:52 PM
I really don't understand all this titles bullshit. What does it even mean? What's the difference between being the Whatever of Sussex, Wales, Dumbarton or wherever?

Actually don't tell me. I don't want to be someone who knows this stuff.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 25, 2021, 02:32:37 PM
I really don't understand all this titles bullshit. What does it even mean? What's the difference between being the Whatever of Sussex, Wales, Dumbarton or wherever?

Looks good on your LinkedIn.
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Post by: JamesTC on June 25, 2021, 02:34:39 PM
Is there an Earl of Scunthorpe?
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Post by: Bad Ambassador on June 25, 2021, 03:18:35 PM
No, but there's a Cunt of Searlhorpe. He's a retired plumber who yells at "the tinted".
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Post by: Paul Calf on June 25, 2021, 03:20:48 PM
More manufactured Culture War outrage:

A cue for outrage among thousands of people who have no hope whatsoever of ever sending their children there.
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Post by: Cuellar on June 25, 2021, 03:21:30 PM
Ikea?
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 25, 2021, 03:46:19 PM
No, but there's a Cunt of Searlhorpe. He's a retired plumber who yells at "the tinted".

Was that the Duke of Deadinburgh's title in England?
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Post by: RicoMNKN on June 26, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
Whenever I see Andrew Doyle, I am reminded of Will Franken's description of him (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=80179.0) as standing for nothing and the whole "free speech!" movement being a self-aggrandising clique of hack columnists. 

I do wonder if some of the presenters on GB News are now only just realising that most of their audience are thick fash, having convinced themselves that they are great thinkers.

On social media, you only really get attacked by people who disagree with you.  Otherwise, you get likes without knowing why you get those likes. That allows you to imagine that your comment was insightful and appealing to free thinkers, as opposed to you just said something horrible about refugees.  On a TV station that invites viewer comments, you are going to see who your audience actually are.

I watched Doyle's "Free Speech Nation" interview with Peter Tatchell on YouTube (out of morbid curiosity).  It was basically him reading out Tatchell's Wikipedia page in order and saying "what was that like?", without any follow up questions to the responses.  An incredibly boring, inoffensive interview.  However, the comments below the video almost universally wanted him to call Peter a nonce for his beliefs about age-of-consent and ask him why he doesn't go to Saudi Arabia if he's so against homophobia.

Likewise, for a "Woke Watch", Sidekick Andrew, lacking a character behind whom he can make up ridiculous things that no one actually says and having to find actual examples of wokeness-gone-mad, could only find a story in which a teacher dropped the N-Bomb in class and was being investigated by the school after pupils complained (which will presumably just end with a warning for the teacher).  Andrew Neil looked to be struggling to fake horror at this, presumably knowing that it was an unprofessional thing for a teacher to do, and that any pupil complaints should be investigated.

What a hack Andrew Doyle is.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 27, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
(https://www.dogsonacid.com/attachments/e46oxcrxwaahotg-jpg.211741/)
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Post by: WhoMe on June 27, 2021, 09:17:46 PM
Oh to return to the cosy embrace of the This Week studio, Michael Portillo's dulcet blather and a bottle of blue nun
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 27, 2021, 09:22:02 PM
to be fair
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Post by: JamesTC on June 27, 2021, 09:49:12 PM
Go anti-woke, get beat by talking Welsh dog.
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Post by: holyzombiejesus on June 27, 2021, 10:47:49 PM
Oh to return to the cosy embrace of the This Week studio, Michael Portillo's dulcet blather and a bottle of blue nun

"It's late, worse viewing figures than Welsh-language Paw Patrol late..."
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Post by: pigamus on June 27, 2021, 10:51:33 PM
Oh to return to the cosy embrace of the This Week studio, Michael Portillo's dulcet blather and a bottle of blue nun

He’s already quit, hasn’t he? I mean if he’s ‘taking a break’ this early on….
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Post by: JamesTC on June 28, 2021, 12:09:38 AM
Andrew Neil to move to the Welsh language Paw Patrol.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 28, 2021, 12:34:11 AM
big bald dog that rolls around in shit
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Post by: king_tubby on June 28, 2021, 08:10:06 AM
Andrew Neil would fit right in with those cops at the Paw Patrol.

Yes sir Andrew sir!
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Post by: steve98 on June 28, 2021, 08:41:05 AM
I'd like (And I bet I'm not alone) to see a series featuring Neil's classic Blue Nun banter. A show once a week of chuckle-some BN patter would be great (I'm smiling thinking about it :) )

(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1200x675/p02l8pq4.jpg)

(And I'm not the only one :) )
(https://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/53666000/jpg/_53666246_jex_1086877_de27-1.jpg)

 
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on June 28, 2021, 08:51:31 AM
Neil slowly realising that people put up with the ramshackle, farcical nature of This Week because it was on at about midnight and the BBC has other, competently made programs.
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Post by: steve98 on June 28, 2021, 09:01:15 AM
Can't always get it right: One of Neil's "Blueys" goes a bit too far, for the lads (Both practicing Catholics)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS853vE0ASb_uEuoeMM-jPbacT9eodGQvISl2oIZ055aAF61UXx20wcDnxEd8dIByen4ug&usqp=CAU)
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Post by: Kankurette on June 28, 2021, 01:00:52 PM
big bald dog that rolls around in shit
They've already got one, he's the builder lad.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Dr Rock on June 28, 2021, 01:23:58 PM
Andrew Neil would fit right in with those cops at the Paw Patrol.

(https://i.imgur.com/igTBKDx.jpg)
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 28, 2021, 09:10:42 PM
this is fucking brilliant even by their standards

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1409469238167883780
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 28, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
this is fucking brilliant even by their standards

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1409469238167883780

fucking lol
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Post by: danwho9 on June 29, 2021, 03:17:58 PM
this is fucking brilliant even by their standards

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1409469238167883780

DAN WOTTON.

Even better is the GB News simp in the replies who has convinced themselves that the left are the bitter ones in this situation.
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Post by: Blue Jam on June 29, 2021, 03:37:22 PM
this is fucking brilliant even by their standards

https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1409469238167883780

Heheheheheh. Real Welsh as well, not Cod Welsh, which is a bonus.

One of the people who has replied to that has the GB News logo as an avatar. State of that. That's almost up there with the time I saw a heart-shaped UKIP logo being used as an avatar.
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 29, 2021, 03:43:48 PM
I suppose it reflects well on the language that there isn't a word for ephebophilia.

I was impressed that it was obvs actually Welsh. It would've been funny without it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on June 29, 2021, 03:49:34 PM
I like how they'd clearly had to say some words in isolation, presumably multiple times then edit them together. Gave it a nice "The Man from Another Place" vibe
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Thomas on June 29, 2021, 06:25:38 PM
I've been listening to Owen Jones' coverage (https://youtu.be/Kf_CmQU-BNc) of the channel's flopping.[1]

Thought I'd pop GB News on in the background, on silent, just to see what they were up to. The whole time I had it open, they were stuck on their patriotic test card.
 1. really interesting analysis by media expert Leo Watkins, explaining why anything modelled after Fox News is doomed to financial failure in the UK.
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Post by: chveik on June 29, 2021, 11:03:59 PM
I suppose it reflects well on the language that there isn't a word for ephebophilia.

I was impressed that it was obvs actually Welsh. It would've been funny without it.

thought it was japanese
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Post by: idunnosomename on June 29, 2021, 11:39:36 PM
we built this city on lolicon
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 07, 2021, 01:58:34 PM
Tom Harwood has changed his name on Twitter to Tom ItsComingHomeWood and has in his twitter bio " You will agree with me on some things and disagree on others, and that's ok"

What an absolute ballbag.
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Post by: buttgammon on July 07, 2021, 02:05:34 PM
Tom Harwood has changed his name on Twitter to Tom ItsComingHomeWood and has in his twitter bio " You will agree with me on some things and disagree on others, and that's ok"

What an absolute ballbag.

It's so embarrassing when these people pretend to like football.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 07, 2021, 02:26:58 PM
Just noticed nobody bothered to comment on this channel for a week. Considering that’s 40% of its existence or something, does that mean interest has dropped off a cliff and it is on its way out? Surely for their business model, indifference is the absolute worst thing that can happen.

I fully expect the next series of posts in here to be early September laughing about it going off the air. If it makes it to September.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 07, 2021, 02:28:56 PM
It is being beaten in the ratings by a talking dog that only speaks Welsh.
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Post by: Alberon on July 07, 2021, 02:52:19 PM
This is the worst result for GB News - no one is bothered to even talk about it now. Like Fox News it thrives on generating outrage, but it's hard to do that when most people have forgotten you exist.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 07, 2021, 03:02:17 PM
It's so embarrassing when these people pretend to like football.
how can he leave a play on words like that just sitting there though
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 07, 2021, 03:03:37 PM
Presumably when Neil elected to take an extended Summer holiday, GB News lost a lot of draw. The main interest now is whether he comes back and if not, when he starts blaming everyone but himself for the failure.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 07, 2021, 03:14:05 PM
Can't believe that nobody wants to watch a news channel that doesn't actually show any news, hosted from inside of a skip by the cunt from Coast.
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Post by: Kankurette on July 07, 2021, 03:15:45 PM
It's so embarrassing when these people pretend to like football.
Yep. I'm willing to bet I know more about football and follow football more than any of these Tory twats who've suddenly decided they start liking England, right up until either Denmark or Italy beat us.
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Post by: steveh on July 07, 2021, 03:30:04 PM
There were figures being reported that GB News' weekly reach - how many people tune in at least once - has approximately halved for every week that they have been on the air.

Investors Legatum said before that they were funding it for 'cultural' rather than financial reasons, so the channel could continue on and gradually sort out the technical and programming problems and make itself more attractive. Really doesn't look like it's viable without investors keeping on shovelling in cash though.
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 07, 2021, 03:33:27 PM
Investors Legatum said before that they were funding it for 'cultural' rather than financial reasons, so the channel could continue on and gradually sort out the technical and programming problems and make itself more attractive. Really doesn't look like it's viable without investors keeping on shovelling in cash though.
There may be an element of creating short clips for social media shares of stuff like "English journalist DESTROYS woke activist!" or "Liberal social workers want to CANCEL white foster carers" just to keep the Culture War fires burning. Whether that comes close to justifying millions of pounds of annual investment is beyond me, but then I'm not filthy rich so fucked if I understand their mindsets.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 07, 2021, 03:35:02 PM
they're going for a much more reasonable, discursive manner rather than the ranting to the screen madness of fucker (genuine typo lol) carlson and that.

so I think to yer love me family love me football love england hate wokes it's just fucking boring. and to everyone else it's so obvious these people are disingenuous or thick or both.

for instance, I saw a clip of andrew doyle talking about To Kill a Mockingbird being "cancelled". when of course it's just an old book written by a white lady that has "n**ger" in it a lot and really must be quite difficult to teach to kids. but not banned at all. just changed to let something else have a go. but of course he pretends not to understand this.
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Post by: sevendaughters on July 07, 2021, 03:37:08 PM
I retuned my telly and found that I now have this channel. Watched 2 mins in bemused silence as 4 people talked over each other angrily whilst also broadly agreeing on the same right wing talking point. They're absolutely lost without libs to own in real life.
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Post by: Kankurette on July 07, 2021, 07:16:26 PM
they're going for a much more reasonable, discursive manner rather than the ranting to the screen madness of fucker (genuine typo lol) carlson and that.

so I think to yer love me family love me football love england hate wokes it's just fucking boring. and to everyone else it's so obvious these people are disingenuous or thick or both.

for instance, I saw a clip of andrew doyle talking about To Kill a Mockingbird being "cancelled". when of course it's just an old book written by a white lady that has "n**ger" in it a lot and really must be quite difficult to teach to kids. but not banned at all. just changed to let something else have a go. but of course he pretends not to understand this.
People have talked about it being problematic because it has a white saviour narrative BUT it is very much a product of its time, it was considered radical back then and Harper Lee got death threats for writing it. It still can and should be talked about.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 07, 2021, 07:30:19 PM
Yeah its great but doesnt mean it's bad if a school chooses not to. Free speech and all that.

There are also currently no black authors on the AQA syllabus but GB News is fine
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 07, 2021, 07:37:31 PM
for instance, I saw a clip of andrew doyle talking about To Kill a Mockingbird being "cancelled". when of course it's just an old book written by a white lady that has "n**ger" in it a lot and really must be quite difficult to teach to kids. but not banned at all. just changed to let something else have a go. but of course he pretends not to understand this.

I heard something similar about a class collectively not wanting to read out the n-word in a Steinbeck text (Mice and Men probably, that's the one we did at school... I might've kept my copy*) but the teacher cringe-worthily insisting on doing it. I'm surprised it's on there really... the texts are still important (although very good it's odd that it was a common school one given it was set in the great depression), and I broadly think it's important to be honest about the attitudes at the time rather than whitewashing them, which still doesn't equate to having to read the word out, although the fact it's even there makes me think it should be treated sensitively and would ultimately need a delicate discussion/case study itself that goes beyond it being analysed as a set text in English literature.

Of course in the eyes of GB news it's imperative it's read in English literature but being honest about actual British history outside of wartime, is of course some mad woke agenda that doesn't need to happen!

*We weren't avid bookworms; most of us just read the odd bit of fiction, so there was a bit of a thing where when we got set texts in English copies occasionally got palmed and swapped, I also think someone from another school gave me The Wasp Factory. Was this a typical thing?
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 07, 2021, 07:40:22 PM
I think it's an issue in the outloud reading pedagogy that makes it awkward. Some kids are going to relish saying the rude word and it could be very intimidating.

I hated that dreary round the class. Because some kids were terrible at it.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 07, 2021, 07:44:23 PM
I think it's an issue in the outloud reading pedagogy that makes it awkward. Some kids are going to relish saying the rude word and it could be very intimidating.

There is the relishing in the taboo too. I think ultimately the most simple justification for not carrying on with it might be that it's distracting?


Tbh I can't remember Of Mice and Men saying the 'proper' n-word but it was littered with the obviously also now unacceptable 'negro'. It could be my shit memory, it was quite a while ago.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 07, 2021, 07:47:23 PM
I did Lord of the Flies so cant help
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 07, 2021, 08:02:18 PM
I bought a copy of that so don't even need a stolen one.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 07, 2021, 08:05:28 PM
The only book I stole from school was called John Junor Listening for a Midnight Tram.
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Post by: Kankurette on July 08, 2021, 10:46:33 AM
It did have 'negro', yes. And I hated reading aloud.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 08, 2021, 11:16:01 AM
Right wing arse hats are always confusing "discussing why an old work or art is problematic in current times" with "this work of art is bad and should be cancelled because it is racist/sexist/homophobic", either because they are trying to fan the flames of the culture war, or they are fucking thick. Sometimes both
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Post by: Kankurette on July 08, 2021, 11:23:45 AM
There are some interesting discussions to be had about To Kill a Mockingbird and how by today's standards it's problematic, but at the time it was almost radical, and how standards have changed and the portrayal of black characters in books and is Atticus a white saviour and blah blah. But the GB News crowd don't want to have those discussions, and you know that if they'd been around when Lee wrote the book, they'd all be sneering at her and calling her a n***** lover.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 08, 2021, 10:22:56 PM
As if any of these cunts have even read it.
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Post by: Kankurette on July 08, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
It's got black people in it, of course they won't.
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Post by: jobotic on July 10, 2021, 12:30:53 PM
GB News soon to be rendered pointless by the BBC

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/10/no-10-ally-on-bbc-board-accused-of-trying-to-block-senior-editorial-role
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Post by: An tSaoi on July 10, 2021, 02:43:24 PM
Just noticed GB News on my telly. They were playing the ads, but the ticker tape was still running on the bottom. The ads were slightly minimised and embedded against the channels wallpaper background. I don't think any other news channel does that. Sky goes fullscreen for ads as I recall.

Surely it's incompetence? You're paying for your ad to be shown, you don't want rolling news along the bottom.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 13, 2021, 11:25:39 AM
GB News presenter has taken the knee during a discussion on racism in football, saying "For them to do that as footballers on the field makes sense, because they’re saying it’s just not right. There’s no place for racism in football".

Lots of gammon Twitter accounts saying they have switched off GB News and won't be watching it now, however it has got the GB News presenter (Guto Harri) trending on Twitter. The GB News Twitter account has made three tweets about Guto Harri taking the knee.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 13, 2021, 11:29:01 AM
Surprised a GB News presenter can take a knee without dislodging something.
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Post by: sevendaughters on July 13, 2021, 11:52:13 AM
GB News presenter has taken the knee during a discussion on racism in football, saying "For them to do that as footballers on the field makes sense, because they’re saying it’s just not right. There’s no place for racism in football".

Lots of gammon Twitter accounts saying they have switched off GB News and won't be watching it now, however it has got the GB News presenter (Guto Harri) trending on Twitter. The GB News Twitter account has made three tweets about Guto Harri taking the knee.

so without libs and FBPEs watching they're trolling themselves. the grifter way.
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Post by: Psybro on July 13, 2021, 12:22:08 PM
I remember when Fox News had Hannity & Colmes where Colmes was a pet liberal put in place to go "oh come now" whilst Hannity yelled at him. There's probably more mileage in that for a British audience who still prefer their haranguing by proxy.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on July 13, 2021, 11:45:49 PM
I think these cunts might be losing the narrative

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jul/13/leading-tory-mp-says-party-must-change-attitude-on-taking-the-knee

Steve fucking Baker there.


Enjoying the scenes in Manchester too
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Post by: easytarget on July 14, 2021, 02:58:15 AM
It's got words in it, of course they won't.
FTFY
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 15, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
GB News presenter has taken the knee during a discussion on racism in football, saying "For them to do that as footballers on the field makes sense, because they’re saying it’s just not right. There’s no place for racism in football".

Lots of gammon Twitter accounts saying they have switched off GB News and won't be watching it now, however it has got the GB News presenter (Guto Harri) trending on Twitter. The GB News Twitter account has made three tweets about Guto Harri taking the knee.

Rowing it back now:
Quote
GB News stands four square against racism in all its forms. We do not have a company line on taking the knee. Some of our guests have been in favour, some against. All are anti-racist. We have editorial standards that all GB News journalists uphold.
then
Quote
On Tuesday a contributing presenter took the knee live on air and this was an unacceptable breach of our standards.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1415747756694646799
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Post by: RicoMNKN on July 15, 2021, 09:01:49 PM
They are completely led by numbers, aren't they?
They kept sharing the clip because it was getting them views, but now have now said this bollocks because they lost about 2500 racist followers.

Still, a good tweet for Stop Funding Hate to bookmark.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: RenegadeScrew on July 15, 2021, 09:27:47 PM
Rowing it back now:then
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1415747756694646799

"an unacceptable breach of our standards" is a beauty
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Alberon on July 15, 2021, 09:33:37 PM
"an unacceptable outbreak of standards" more like.

As for ratings.

Quote
Broadcast Now reported that for the week of July 5, the fourth full week that GB News was on air, the channel averaged 28,000/0.2% between the hours of 6pm and midnight.

The previous week, the channel had 32,000/0.2% for the same six-hour period, marking a 13% decrease, the publication said.

Now, the footy was on and ratings were also down at Sky and BBC News, but not by as high a percentage.

Quote
While Sky News also saw a decline of 8% in the same time period, averaging 52,000/0.3% while the Euro 2020 tournament was on, this figure was still a great deal higher than GB News.

BBC News, on the other hand, also saw a decline of 10%, but averaged 124,000/0.8% with its ratings.

They really need to crack on with generating some outrage or even we will completely forget the channel exists.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 15, 2021, 09:38:54 PM
They really need to crack on with generating some outrage or even we will completely forget the channel exists.

This sort of happened with me for a bit, kind of remembered it exists and thought "haven't heard much about that for a few days now".

Would probably be the worst thing from their point of view, just slipping in to obscurity after a couple of weeks of bungling it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: kalowski on July 16, 2021, 06:30:31 AM
Quote
Business editor Liam Halligan and former Labour MP Gloria De Piero attracted no measurable audience to their show between 1pm and 1.30pm on Wednesday afternoon. During the same timeslot the BBC News channel attracted 62,000 viewers, while Sky News had 50,000 people watching.

GB News’ audience again briefly dipped to zero at 5pm, during a late-afternoon programme co-hosted by ex-BBC presenter Simon McCoy and former Ukip spokesperson Alex Phillips.
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Post by: BlodwynPig on July 16, 2021, 07:18:44 AM
Glorious.
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 16, 2021, 09:20:00 AM
Hope they pull through.
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Post by: Paul Calf on July 16, 2021, 09:23:15 AM
Real Partridgian vibes from this. There has to be a film at some point.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 16, 2021, 09:47:23 AM
Hope they pull through.

GB News “sitting up and in good spirits”.
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Post by: steve98 on July 16, 2021, 10:31:53 AM
"No Measurable Audience." That's gotta hurt. Especially for "ex-BBC presenter" Simon Whats'sisface.

"How d'we do for eyeballs tonight guys?" he asks the GB tech-wizards after his show.   "No Measurable Audience Simon. NMA. Sorry."

He'll likely blow his brains out LIVE on air, just after saying something directly to the viewers* (if any)

*which the studio mics fail to pick up.
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Post by: touchingcloth on July 16, 2021, 10:36:00 AM
The standards of the carphone Braunes Haus.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 16, 2021, 10:40:31 AM
There were loads of people watching. They were just unmeasurable
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2021, 10:41:49 AM
Loads of viewers, they're just not people.
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Post by: phantom_power on July 16, 2021, 10:43:03 AM
Even dogs think it is a load of bullshit but they love a hate watch
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Post by: Key on July 16, 2021, 11:45:10 AM
"an unacceptable breach of our standards" is a beauty

Standards of anti-racism and also concurrently anti-anti-racism.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 16, 2021, 11:50:55 AM
Quote
We let both sides of the argument down by oversimplifying a very complex issue

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1415747756694646799

How is opposing racism "oversimplifying a very complex issue"?
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Post by: phantom_power on July 16, 2021, 11:51:04 AM
There are good parts of the body to have on the ground on both sides
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1415747756694646799

How is opposing racism "oversimplifying a very complex issue"?

Need to oppose it in a way that in no way suggests the problem might be structural.

Incidentally, Owen Jones was on Vine talking about racist abuse on social media and Vine seems to think if we could get big tech to remove monkey and banana emoji then the problem will go away.

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1415951978358886400
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Post by: Mr Banlon on July 16, 2021, 12:22:44 PM
I see Jeremy Vine watched Scarface last night.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 16, 2021, 01:31:09 PM
Is there seriously an orangutan emoji

🦧

Hmm looks like a chimp to me
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 16, 2021, 03:28:32 PM
Twitter rumour has it that Simon McCoy has quit.  No proper sources I can find yet.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 16, 2021, 03:34:08 PM
Like a news channel spinoff from Change: the Independent Group UK.

Doomed from the off, and only pure ego and shadowy outside money keeping the operation afloat until it becomes quietly removed from everyone’s CV.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 16, 2021, 03:43:07 PM
Twitter rumour has it that Simon McCoy has quit.  No proper sources I can find yet.

Saw earlier that Alastair Stewart is off after breaking his hip walking his horse out of its stable. Bet he’s gutted.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 16, 2021, 03:49:57 PM
Bet the horse is too.

Oh it says walking
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2021, 03:55:46 PM
Twitter rumour has it that Simon McCoy has quit.  No proper sources I can find yet.

I always felt ambivalent about him joining, he seemed a harmless less-pernicious Richard Madeley type on BBC news so was quite surprised when he was off to join the shitheels. Not sure if I should have sympathy for anyone joining them but he did seem to realise from the off he'd made a terrible mistake.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2021, 04:31:59 PM
Top exec has quit now:
Quote
John McAndrew, the channel’s director of programming, has also quit the station, sources told the Guardian. McAndrew, a well-known figure in the television news industry who has a long track record at mainstream outlets including Sky News and Euronews, was considered to be the channel’s second-in-command and played a key role in convincing many of the more established mainstream presenters to join.

Sources suggested he had come under pressure to dial down the focus on local reporting and free debate in favour of full-blooded culture war topics, so chose to resign.



Article also touches on rumors of a relaunch.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jul/16/gb-news-pulls-guto-harri-off-air-taking-the-knee-row?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Post by: Alberon on July 16, 2021, 05:01:20 PM
Most of the professionals will push off and the channel will go full on culture war in a bid to survive. It’s not going to be pretty.
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 16, 2021, 05:06:13 PM
Well Simon's still on it, having had a quick look, but since the Exec who, it appears, persuaded him to come aboard in the first place, has now quit, I wonder for how much longer?
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Post by: RenegadeScrew on July 16, 2021, 05:30:01 PM
Standards of anti-racism and also concurrently anti-anti-racism.

Their hyprocrisy and blatant racism is obvious, but its a great quote from a bunch of lads who can't organise a news bulletin and (from the clips I've seen on twitter) look like a complete joke most of the time. 

In that sense, it is like McDonalds or Burger King talking about the integrity of their restaurant.
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Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 16, 2021, 05:52:12 PM
Amusing:

https://twitter.com/Mysteron_Voice/status/1416013366183743488
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 16, 2021, 06:21:06 PM
Would love them to go full loony culture wars, like that Noel Edmonds show from ~10 years back but 24/7 and with zero production values.

Descend into the madness, full on abyss, yes lads.
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Post by: touchingcloth on July 16, 2021, 06:40:25 PM
Would love them to go full loony culture wars, like that Noel Edmonds show from ~10 years back but 24/7 and with zero production values.

Descend into the madness, full on abyss, yes lads.

They could start a great website like Noel's.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 16, 2021, 06:41:43 PM
Would love them to go full loony culture wars, like that Noel Edmonds show from ~10 years back but 24/7 and with zero production values.

Descend into the madness, full on abyss, yes lads.

I only saw a clip from that on Brooker and still don't really trust that it was real.
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Post by: Psybro on July 16, 2021, 06:55:25 PM
Nice seeing someone like Guto Harri forced to look directly at where all that filthy coin they collected came from.
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Post by: Tikwid on July 16, 2021, 07:36:16 PM
Their hyprocrisy and blatant racism is obvious, but its a great quote from a bunch of lads who can't organise a news bulletin and (from the clips I've seen on twitter) look like a complete joke most of the time. 

In that sense, it is like McDonalds or Burger King talking about the integrity of their restaurant.
"Racism is entirely at odds with the values of the Carphone Warehouse"
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Post by: daf on July 16, 2021, 07:49:14 PM
I didn't know Guto Harri was even on there!

I remember him from Welsh (language) TV decades ago - He was the Vatican correspondent for a while I think.
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Post by: steveh on July 17, 2021, 08:39:45 AM
According to someone I know who works for another media company, they've gone way over budget and don't have the money to remedy the core technical issues and bring in new kit to fix the presentation problems, so people on that side don't want to stick around. The dropping of local reporting is partly because that's done by freelancers and they haven't been paid so many won't do further work. With several senior staff leaving, those who joined because of them are considering their options and there's no shortage of TV job vacancies currently.

All GB News can afford to do is strip it back to an LBC type guests and phone-in format but on proper TV. However, if they focus too much on the core hard right audience they won't get advertisers and run into regulatory compliance issues, while if they go for a more general audience they get zero ratings because the hard right won't watch and the general audience expects a better product. The company needs to raise new funds but it was a terrible launch and the existing business plan has now been proved not to work. Their only media investor, Discovery, is also now in the midst of a merger with WarnerMedia (who own CNN) and probably has no appetite now.

Also a rumour that Andrew Neil's disappearance is because senior management were asked to take salary cuts to help with the cashflow problem but he refused to do shows if he wasn't getting paid.
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Post by: MoreauVasz on July 17, 2021, 08:46:10 AM
He was the Vatican correspondent for a while I think.

Vatican correspondent for S4C?! That's a job on the level of that bloke claiming to be head of covert intelligence for the Disney corporation.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 17, 2021, 09:28:56 AM
Also a rumour that Andrew Neil's disappearance is because senior management were asked to take salary cuts to help with the cashflow problem but he refused to do shows if he wasn't getting paid.

Solidarity forever, Andrew!
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Post by: JamesTC on July 17, 2021, 09:53:49 AM
They should just get the arse flare guy to do host the channel. He'll whip them into shape. Him and that Michael Hunt.
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Post by: touchingcloth on July 17, 2021, 10:30:02 AM
They should just get the arse flare guy to do host the channel. He'll whip them into shape. Him and that Michael Hunt.

Don’t even use his name when he presents. Like Lost Voice Guy he could present the channel as Flare Arse Lad, Westminster correspondent.
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Post by: MoreauVasz on July 17, 2021, 11:20:19 AM
The really depressing thing about this is that when GB News inevitably rebrands as something incredibly niche like a business news channel for crypto traders, Neil will walk straight back into a Daily Politics-type gig with the BBC as though nothing had happened
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Post by: Obel on July 17, 2021, 11:24:37 AM
Seems like GB News is a catastrophe, as hoped and expected. Maybe it's time to move the thread to the Comedy Chat forum
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 17, 2021, 11:26:23 AM
Seems like GB News is a catastrophe, as hoped and expected. Maybe it's time to move the thread to the Comedy Chat forum

I kind of hoped, possibly naively, some old boy network pettiness would prevent this.

Although there was a thing on Novara and it seems he's got form for bouncing back from failed media ventures. In the past some of them were comparatively left-wing.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 17, 2021, 11:37:21 AM
Ideas for controversial new presenters to boost ratings:

Rolf Harris
That woman who put a cat in a bin
The McCanns
Baby Hitler
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 17, 2021, 12:13:33 PM
GB News viewers have won most of the political battles this decade. They've had ten years of austerity which allows them to enjoy other people struggling financially. They've had Brexit and avoided a soft deal, they've got Johnson in power, a government on their side in the culture war, been told statues will be protected from protesters...and still they kick off whenever anyone on GB News does anything they disagree with.

It shows why Keith will never be able to win these people over - I think some of them would only be happy living in a fascist dictatorship. Keith would basically have to promise them he'd copy Hitler if he came to power before some of them would vote for him.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 17, 2021, 12:18:38 PM
The really depressing thing about this is that when GB News inevitably rebrands as something incredibly niche like a business news channel for crypto traders, Neil will walk straight back into a Daily Politics-type gig with the BBC as though nothing had happened
Neil fell out with Murdoch and had fuckups after, like The European newspaper was  shut down under him, but seems to be immortal. I'd hope the BBC wouldn't take him back, but he's still involved with the Spectator and could concentrate there or the Telegraph. There are also lots of rich assholes setting up news channels, like Egyptian-owned Euronews or some new Saudi channel. And changes at the Daily Mail...
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Post by: Blumf on July 17, 2021, 01:02:01 PM
Go on you wusses!! Bring News Bunny back!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 17, 2021, 04:20:05 PM
Farage announcing a major career change at 5!
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Post by: Psybro on July 17, 2021, 04:27:16 PM
Flicked it on last night and they had Mr Motivator on for an interview slot the length of which seemed to be up to him to determine. Not really rabble rousing stuff.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 17, 2021, 04:32:04 PM
People have had enough of liberal elite PE Jesus and his HIIT. Mote’s bringing leisure centre aerobics classes back.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 17, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
Flicked it on last night and they had Mr Motivator on for an interview slot the length of which seemed to be up to him to determine. Not really rabble rousing stuff.

lol at him still going. They used to get him to do warm-ups at bestival.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 17, 2021, 05:14:51 PM
larry david faint at this news
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 17, 2021, 05:18:42 PM
The show is just called Farage, making it sound like a US daytime TV show about a private investigator.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Goldentony on July 17, 2021, 05:24:19 PM
he's at a piano singing the Ship Song by Nick Cave atm
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 17, 2021, 05:25:46 PM
I can’t tell which bits of this are made up.
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Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 17, 2021, 05:34:41 PM
Oh dear. Were they really hoping that Nige would be the big gun to explode their ratings through the roof?

He couldn't even be the most liked figure at LBC. Gammon England fans were bottling him at last week's Euro final.

GB News #deadsoon
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 17, 2021, 05:38:03 PM
tbf nige is much better at doing what he does than gb news seems to be
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 17, 2021, 05:57:03 PM
The show is just called Farage, making it sound like a US daytime TV show about a private investigator.

And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 17, 2021, 05:58:44 PM
Carried away like a moonlight FARAGE (FARAGE)
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Post by: olliebean on July 17, 2021, 09:21:51 PM
The fact they've apparently managed to burn through £60m so quickly makes me wonder if there's something else going on.

(https://i.imgur.com/S8vlnJq.png) (https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21086829.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_BBC-viewers-baffled-by-Andrew-Neils-dodgy-earpiece-during-general-election-coverage.jpg)
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Post by: Alberon on July 17, 2021, 09:31:37 PM
How much does an EPG number cost these days?
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Post by: Jittlebags on July 17, 2021, 11:21:40 PM
And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

Rearrange these words to form some well known sayings.

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 17, 2021, 11:51:42 PM
When I was just fledgling right wing channel
I asked my financial backers, what should we be?
Should we be bland tory? And just serve the rich?
Here’s what they said to me

Hire farage, farage
Scrape the bottom of the barrel for me
We need cheap controversy
So hire farage, farage
(We’re courting insolvency)
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Post by: daf on July 18, 2021, 12:11:30 AM
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article21086829.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/0_BBC-viewers-baffled-by-Andrew-Neils-dodgy-earpiece-during-general-election-coverage.jpg)

Someone phone Peter Jackson - we've found our Goblin King!
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 18, 2021, 12:16:45 AM
im amazed how liberal twitter rose to nigel's call this morning to build this up. why people feel the need to pay him so much attention, and in the case of Crazy Cat Cadwalladr, give him nearly a hundred pounds to say "Hugh Jazz" I don't know. it's almost like the centrists need him about to mock or they feel inadequately oppressed.
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on July 18, 2021, 12:23:30 AM
And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://i.imgur.com/iqaH4tO.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on July 18, 2021, 12:32:55 AM
Carried away like a moonlight FARAGE (FARAGE)

‘When’s his show on?’
‘4AM’
‘What, 4AM in the morning?’
‘That’s correct’
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Post by: Kankurette on July 18, 2021, 01:39:14 AM
When will lefty Twitter learn not to feed the trolls?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Key on July 18, 2021, 03:11:49 AM
No way are Nigel Farage's teeth that white.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 18, 2021, 04:57:46 AM
No way are Nigel Farage's teeth that white.

I can believe it. It's his favourite colour, after all.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on July 18, 2021, 05:00:04 AM
And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

I went for a run yesterday and an older woman was pointing at me like this in the distance. Turns out she was pointing at a tropical looking bird that was behind me.
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Post by: vanilla.coffee on July 18, 2021, 06:43:13 AM
Andrew? Good boy.
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Post by: Spoon of Ploff on July 18, 2021, 07:16:23 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/4BsE9Ah.jpg)
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Post by: kalowski on July 18, 2021, 08:13:42 AM
Farage is a detective who tackles vandalism. Bit of a maverick, not afraid to break the law if he thinks it's necessary. He's not a criminal, you know, but he will, perhaps, travel 80mph on the motorway if, for example, he wants to get somewhere quickly.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 18, 2021, 08:24:36 AM
And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

The best airbrush could do
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 18, 2021, 08:25:47 AM
I went for a run yesterday and an older woman was pointing at me like this in the distance. Turns out she was pointing at a tropical looking bird that was behind me.

This is my favourite unnerving post of 2021.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on July 18, 2021, 08:39:06 AM
He's saying 'pull my finger'.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 18, 2021, 08:43:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

GB News needs YOU!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 18, 2021, 08:57:07 AM
Can't be arsed to find that bodysnatchers ending image
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on July 18, 2021, 11:15:45 AM
He reminds me of the actor Paul Meurisse.

(https://www.notrecinema.com/images/usercontent/star/paul-meurisse-photo_87269_3991.jpg)

(https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/70/7/67398/format_web/paul-meurisse.jpg)

(https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/72/7/67400/format_web/paul-meurisse.jpg)

I'd like to see Farage go into elegant detective work.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jasha on July 18, 2021, 11:19:50 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

Like a cutaway scene from a 90's arcade game
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on July 18, 2021, 11:29:48 AM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

"Ha ha, look one of the child ones is drowning. This is great fun!"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 18, 2021, 11:32:48 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

"That's him, officer. The black one".
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 18, 2021, 11:33:00 AM
I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dothestrand on July 18, 2021, 01:50:50 PM
He reminds me of the actor Paul Meurisse.

(https://www.notrecinema.com/images/usercontent/star/paul-meurisse-photo_87269_3991.jpg)

(https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/70/7/67398/format_web/paul-meurisse.jpg)

(https://medias.unifrance.org/medias/72/7/67400/format_web/paul-meurisse.jpg)

I'd like to see Farage go into elegant detective work.

He was the headmaster in Les Diaboliques, right? Still, he treated women better than I imagine Nige does.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 18, 2021, 05:26:27 PM
Guto Harri has left GB News. The Independent claims they have seen his resignation letter:

Quote
...In his resignation letter seen by The Independent, Mr Harri spells out to GB News chief executive Angelos Frangopoulos his reasons for quitting the current affairs channel, in operation for just over a month.

It says: “Before I took the knee on air I discussed it with my producer, director, co-presenters and head of newsroom.

“After I did it, GB News captured the moment and proactively cascaded it on social media.

“Two days later you told me you wanted me to take a break for the summer. You did not say you were briefing papers and issuing a statement that accused me of breaching your editorial standards.

“I asked you to change that on the night – pointing out it was defamatory. You ignored my texts and refused to take my calls.

“I now see that you’ve hired Nigel Farage who immediately declared in public that he will not be taking the knee.

“Please explain how that does not breach editorial standards but I did – so I can share it with my lawyers.”

Mr Harri also told Mr Frangopoulos that he sees “no option now but to resign”.

He has criticised his employer for claiming “to believe in free speech” and then punishing him for expressing his views.

Writing in The Sunday Times, Mr Harri accused the channel of “becoming an absurd parody of what it proclaims to be”.

He wrote: “Rather than defending free speech and confronting cancel culture, it has set out to replicate it on the far right.”...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/guto-harri-resigns-gb-news-knee-b1886127.html
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on July 18, 2021, 05:34:32 PM
sympathy for Guto Harri

the worst injustice meted out on innocents | ---------------------------------------------------------------x---| America loses at a sport it has sole dominion over
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: JamesTC on July 18, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
MAYBE IF I'M FRIENDS WITH THE BULLY THEY WILL BE NICE TO ME I AM SMART

How many of these idiots are going to quit in a huff that they got into bed with right wing cunts.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 18, 2021, 06:25:27 PM
MAYBE IF I'M FRIENDS WITH THE BULLY THEY WILL BE NICE TO ME I AM SMART

How many of these idiots are going to quit in a huff that they got into bed with right wing cunts.

He is a right wing c-nut - Boris Johnsons former spin doctor there.

It's wondrous that GB News have publicly undermined their credibility for free speech on their own terms but let's not forget where most of these people are coming from.  They also don't give a shit if they get fired or not they are all rich and connected this is just a playthings for them.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dr beat on July 18, 2021, 06:54:06 PM
And so we approach the nadir…

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6fyAGgXMAIykeZ?format=jpg&name=large)

That's a very Saul Goodman pose.

Deliberate? Better Call Nige...
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 18, 2021, 06:56:03 PM
Farage complaining about the London based media even though GB News is based in London.
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Post by: Glebe on July 18, 2021, 07:18:34 PM
Farage announcing a major career change at 5!

(https://i.imgur.com/dyzqHQz.gif)
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Post by: Psybro on July 18, 2021, 07:29:44 PM
Surely the freedom of speech complaints are legal cover, nobody could reasonably believe that was this channel's genuine intention?
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Post by: Kankurette on July 18, 2021, 09:16:08 PM
He's not very self-aware. Like, no shit they don't care about freedom of speech, they only want it for themselves.
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Post by: Smeraldina Rima on July 19, 2021, 02:33:13 AM
He was the headmaster in Les Diaboliques, right? Still, he treated women better than I imagine Nige does.

Yes, that's right. I never know whether to respond in this empty way when I have nothing else to add but maybe it's best to.
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Post by: Norton Canes on July 19, 2021, 08:42:27 AM
A rat saved TV-am. Can one save GB News?
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 19, 2021, 10:54:00 PM
Looking on Twitter, Farage interviews Graham Brady and each of them had a pint glass next to them, and Tom Hardwood reported from the anti lockdown protest where the protestors hurled abuse during his report.
Quote
@GBNEWS
"Every pub is a parliament"

Nigel Farage welcomes Graham Brady to his studio pub for the first "talking pints"

Link below is NSFW

https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1417230256365309952

NSFW
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Post by: jobotic on July 19, 2021, 11:00:59 PM
I had a pair of Adidas Paedo Protectors in luminous orange


I hope we get to see Farage's liver give up live on air. And why isn't he smoking?
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 19, 2021, 11:12:55 PM
Looking on Twitter, Farage interviews Graham Brady and each of them had a pint glass next to them, and Tom Hardwood reported from the anti lockdown protest where the protestors hurled abuse during his report.
Link below is NSFW

https://mobile.twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1417230256365309952

NSFW

That poster is something else.  Do you think these people really believe that 60% of people vaccinated are dead this shit or is this some marketing scam so people contact them and hand over their bank details.


Imagine believe 60% of all the 10s of millions of people that have been vaccinated are now dead; you'd think you'd notice.

EDIT: I've not read that right have I
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Post by: greenman on July 20, 2021, 12:42:29 AM
Like a cutaway scene from a 90's arcade game

SF2 level with a pub carvery in the background.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 20, 2021, 01:19:04 AM
nigel farage tries to beat up a car on the quayside
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Post by: Barry Admin on July 24, 2021, 12:13:54 AM
Switched it on there, Farage, "MIGRANT CRISIS" - seems to be giving off about people pulling drowning migrants out of the sea?

Switched it off.
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Post by: imitationleather on July 24, 2021, 12:18:21 AM
Yer mistake there, son, was switching it on
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Post by: Pink Gregory on July 24, 2021, 06:29:21 AM
Nothing less convincing than that grotesque toad pretending that he drinks pints.
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Post by: steve98 on July 24, 2021, 07:24:24 AM
^ Why? I find it entirely convincing. He probably has his own "pot", hangin' from a nail on the gantry.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 24, 2021, 09:03:17 AM
GB News presenters have been talking some absolute shite about the pandemic recently, but as it's COVID related I've put it in the worst responses to the pandemic thread
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Post by: jobotic on July 24, 2021, 09:56:19 AM
I think Farage drinks. Think he's quite often drunk. And why not? He's not paying for it.
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Post by: Pink Gregory on July 24, 2021, 10:10:15 AM
^ Why? I find it entirely convincing. He probably has his own "pot", hangin' from a nail on the gantry.

I would assume Brandy and Gak, when the cameras aren't on.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 26, 2021, 05:19:38 PM
Arlene Foster had joined GB News. Is she very popular among the Protestant communities in Northern Island? I can hardly see her as much of a draw for viewers. Who does she appeal to? Is it simply an attempt to try and get more Leave viewers?
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Post by: Kankurette on July 26, 2021, 06:44:45 PM
They might as well go the whole hog and get Sammy Wilson on.
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Post by: pigamus on July 26, 2021, 06:47:47 PM
I quite like Mary's Prayer
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Post by: Thomas on July 26, 2021, 06:54:28 PM
Arlene Foster has joined GB News.

As such the channel ought change its name to UK News. For a conservative and unionist channel, you'd think they'd at least nod toward the basic semantics of the union.
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Post by: mothman on July 26, 2021, 07:13:42 PM
I quite like Mary's Prayer

Niche.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 27, 2021, 03:49:44 PM
As such the channel ought change its name to UK News. For a conservative and unionist channel, you'd think they'd at least nod toward the basic semantics of the union.
A commitment to accuracy would also require removing the word News. Fuck knows what they'd end up being called. Manx Shitposting?
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Post by: sevendaughters on July 28, 2021, 11:03:42 AM
not that I am asking to, but I haven't seen anyone talking about Farage's show at all
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Post by: steveh on July 28, 2021, 11:13:56 AM
Last week Farage's show went from 100K viewers for the first show on Monday to 30K on Thursday and 17K for the "best of" compilation on Friday. I don't think it's exactly the saviour they were hoping for.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 28, 2021, 12:04:09 PM
Not even the most tedious gammon wants to watch Legend Nige going on about asylum seekers in dinghies in 2021. Katie Hopkins was binned by the Sun for her "cockroaches" column six years ago. There's been legislation. They get processed and shipped back. Conversation's over, mate.

Can't wait to see what hot topics he comes up with next. The undemocratic EU? Polish plumbers living ten to a house and sending their wages back home? Grooming gangs in Rotherham? Riveting stuff.
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Post by: Blue Jam on July 28, 2021, 12:06:03 PM
This was trending on Twitter because they had Ann Widdecombe on saying something about "wokeness" or whatever.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 28, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
This was trending on Twitter because they had Ann Widdecombe on saying something about "wokeness" or whatever.

(https://i.imgur.com/2JMPBhA.png)

deso

Nige's pint looks flatter than a plate of piss as well.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 28, 2021, 12:36:10 PM
Someone somewhere said “what people really want is the ability to go for a virtual pint with Anne Widdecombe”.

And someone else with decision-making power said “yes, that is correct, we will do that and broadcast it on television”.

Incredible really.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 28, 2021, 12:38:10 PM
it looks so fucking awful with those pint glasses on the plywood table, awkwardly angled towards each other, stock footage of booze on the displays. Look to really sell it, you need to shoot it in a pub. Otherwise this is just a normal interview where you're distracted by who drinks their pint quicker.

I watched some of Vince "lays a" Cable because I kinda wanted to see how he denied genocide. It's because he's simping for what a great bunch of lads China are for purely capitalistic gain. it's all very pathetic. Nigel is so clearly looking down at a script on his lap too. Pretty fucking awful.
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Post by: chveik on July 28, 2021, 02:05:12 PM
it just can't work without hans
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Post by: Blumf on July 28, 2021, 02:24:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2JMPBhA.png)

Looks like they've used a MFI cabinet upside down for the desk. Why has it got that raised edge if they were planning on having people sit at it with a pint?
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Post by: Chollis on July 28, 2021, 02:26:14 PM
Look to really sell it, you need to shoot it in a pub.

reckon they decided probability of Farage getting glassed was too high
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Post by: Glebe on July 28, 2021, 02:37:34 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2JMPBhA.png)

"Do you come here often?"
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Post by: gilbertharding on July 28, 2021, 02:40:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2JMPBhA.png)



Cursed image. Rancid people.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 28, 2021, 02:51:49 PM
Weird that Nigel "All COVID restrictions are an attack on our freedom" Farage is socially distanced from her, even though he doesn't legally have to be.

Almost like he's a bandwagon-jumping piece of shit who'll say anything for money, whether he believes in it or not.
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Post by: gilbertharding on July 28, 2021, 03:35:09 PM
Come on - who in their right mind would want to be closer than 2m to either of them. I'm presuming they find each other as repellent as I find the two of them.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on July 28, 2021, 03:37:32 PM
Some people are easily amused :
"Pmsl @Nigel_Farage
 having a pint on telly man hahaha !!!! Love it "

Some different wankers :
"Wouldn’t it be great if farage lit up a fag to go with his pint! Love it"
"Rod Liddle style!"
"He has me in hysterics"
"Absolutely! Great stuff"





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Post by: Kankurette on July 28, 2021, 03:39:00 PM
It's just a man in a pretend bar drinking a pint. Wow. Hilare.
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Post by: gilbertharding on July 28, 2021, 03:41:30 PM
Some people are easily amused :
"Pmsl @Nigel_Farage
 having a pint on telly man hahaha !!!! Love it "

Some different wankers :
"Wouldn’t it be great if farage lit up a fag to go with his pint! Love it"
"Rod Liddle style!"
"He has me in hysterics"
"Absolutely! Great stuff"

Perhaps this explains why right wing comedians are so aggrieved about not getting the work. Making right wing people laugh seems like the easiest job in the world.
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Post by: JamesTC on July 28, 2021, 03:42:32 PM
Farage drinks at the bar and Ann Widdecombe pulls a face.
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 28, 2021, 03:45:02 PM
Perhaps this explains why right wing comedians are so aggrieved about not getting the work. Making right wing people laugh seems like the easiest job in the world.
say literally anything they agree with and they have tears in their plethora of faces.
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Post by: jobotic on July 28, 2021, 03:47:49 PM
Some people are easily amused :
"Pmsl @Nigel_Farage
 having a pint on telly man hahaha !!!! Love it "

Some different wankers :
"Wouldn’t it be great if farage lit up a fag to go with his pint! Love it"
"Rod Liddle style!"
"He has me in hysterics"
"Absolutely! Great stuff"

Imagine if he stuck a flare up his arse. They'd actually die laughing.
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Post by: mothman on July 28, 2021, 04:01:13 PM
He’d definitely fall through her bra.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 28, 2021, 04:06:57 PM
Multiple gammon/bot farms on Twitter calling her a "breath of fresh air".

She was only an MP for 23 years and in the cabinet/shadow cabinet for 11. Great to get a fresh perspective from outside of the political establishment.
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Post by: Glebe on July 28, 2021, 04:10:20 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6cMGN9a.jpg)
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Post by: Paul Calf on July 28, 2021, 04:16:18 PM
Last week Farage's show went from 100K viewers for the first show on Monday to 30K on Thursday and 17K for the "best of" compilation on Friday. I don't think it's exactly the saviour they were hoping for.


So much Partridge-mining in this

(https://img.gifglobe.com/grabs/partridgecloud/S01E01/gif/KKMryQg6U6Vv.gif)
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Post by: Mr Trumpet on July 28, 2021, 05:14:30 PM
Imagine if he stuck a flare up his arse. They'd actually die laughing.

Could be funny. Depends which end really
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 28, 2021, 06:36:44 PM
...Otherwise this is just a normal interview where you're distracted by who drinks their pint quicker.


Didn't watch. Who DID drink their pint quicker?
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 28, 2021, 06:40:20 PM
Farage. remember he's not that old and it was probably past Vince's bedtime.
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Post by: kalowski on July 28, 2021, 06:45:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2JMPBhA.png)
Farage: Stop me if you've heard this one
But I feel as though we've met before
Perhaps I am mistaken-

Widdecombe: But it's just that I remind you of
Someone you used to care about
Oh, but that was long ago
Now tell me, do you really think I'd fall for that old line
I was not born just yesterday
Besides, I never talk to strangers anyway
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Post by: imitationleather on July 28, 2021, 06:46:32 PM
I wonder if there's actually any alcohol in those drinks.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 28, 2021, 06:47:59 PM
Looks like they've used a MFI cabinet upside down for the desk. Why has it got that raised edge if they were planning on having people sit at it with a pint?

I suspect the raised edge is to conceal crap lying on the table when filmed head-on.
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Post by: steve98 on July 28, 2021, 08:18:35 PM
What 80 yr old woman's gonna sit and chat while drinkin' a pint of cola? I know it's called Pints Of View but that doesn't mean the guest has to sit swillin' pints. As long as Farage has his pint that's fine, and the guest can have a modest Babycham or a schooner of Advocaat with a cherry or something. I bet Widdecombe would love a Babycham.
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Post by: steve98 on July 28, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
^ Correction. Talking Pints.
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Post by: jobotic on July 28, 2021, 10:54:27 PM
What is pint?
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Post by: steve98 on July 28, 2021, 11:11:17 PM
Look at this: can't handle her drink. Never heared of Tenna Lady, Ann?... Widdlecombe

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/24/23/12670464-0-image-a-53_1556145231650.jpg)
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Post by: steve98 on July 28, 2021, 11:29:29 PM
"What kind of a country are we? What kind of a country forces its senior citizens to urinate on the pavements, because we've turned our public lavatories into welfare centers for illegal immigrants? We should be ashamed."

(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8609850.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/PROD-Nigel-Farage.jpg)
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Post by: idunnosomename on July 28, 2021, 11:38:55 PM
reminder nigel was born in 1964. he is only 57, despite passing for late 60s
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 29, 2021, 12:11:07 AM
(https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8609850.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/PROD-Nigel-Farage.jpg)

"ADRIAAAANNN!"
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Post by: imitationleather on July 29, 2021, 12:14:21 AM
reminder nigel was born in 1964. he is only 57, despite passing for late 60s

He's four years older than Damon Albarn.
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Post by: daf on July 29, 2021, 12:17:22 AM
And only one month older than Dave Rowntree.
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Post by: buttgammon on July 29, 2021, 12:27:13 AM
He's younger than Bob Odenkirk and he was born the same year as Stone Cold Steve Austin and Courtney Love.
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Post by: Steven88 on July 29, 2021, 12:38:24 AM
Look at this: can't handle her drink. Never heared of Tenna Lady, Ann?... Widdlecombe

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/24/23/12670464-0-image-a-53_1556145231650.jpg)
(https://image2.thematicnews.com/uploads/images/05/67/30/2018/01/04/11b11711b117.gif)
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Post by: Kankurette on July 29, 2021, 03:14:28 AM
reminder nigel was born in 1964. he is only 57, despite passing for late 60s
Jesus Christ! He’s ten years younger than my mum and yet looks so much older.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on July 29, 2021, 03:56:20 PM
Farage was 14 when Smash Hits was first published. Instead of reading that, and leaning the words to Picture This by Blondie, he was learning the words to the Horst Wessel song. He did like Blondie though. Not the band. Hitler's dog.
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Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 29, 2021, 04:09:08 PM
Multiple gammon/bot farms on Twitter calling her a "breath of fresh air".

She was only an MP for 23 years and in the cabinet/shadow cabinet for 11. Great to get a fresh perspective from outside of the political establishment.
Byline Times is reporting (https://bylinetimes.com/2021/07/29/automated-culture-wars-digital-astroturfing-campaign-amplifies-fox-news-inspired-gb-news/) that GB News on Twitter is being supported by a vast network of bots and other dubious methods to boost its follower count.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 29, 2021, 04:25:15 PM
Byline Times is reporting (https://bylinetimes.com/2021/07/29/automated-culture-wars-digital-astroturfing-campaign-amplifies-fox-news-inspired-gb-news/) that GB News on Twitter is being supported by a vast network of bots and other dubious methods to boost its follower count.

Andrew Neil is an odd-looking fellow. Must have been a drive through barbers.

(https://bylinetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2G32GKP-910x0-c-default.jpg)
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Post by: DrGreggles on July 29, 2021, 04:27:03 PM
Serves him right for driving too fast.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 29, 2021, 04:35:15 PM
Andrew Neil is an odd-looking fellow. Must have been a drive through barbers.

(https://bylinetimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/2G32GKP-910x0-c-default.jpg)

Who's manning the bridge when he's on air?
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 29, 2021, 05:01:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/lg4H3eO.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Farenheit on July 29, 2021, 05:23:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MShzGiM.jpg)
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Post by: Glebe on July 29, 2021, 05:39:57 PM
Bravo, Mr. F!
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 29, 2021, 05:59:29 PM
I think Tom Harwood has upset some GB News viewers by taking Fox to task over vaccines. Doesn't change the fact that Harwood is a colossal prick (especially his recent comments on NHS pay rises).

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Post by: Glebe on July 29, 2021, 06:15:16 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/UlRDxd4.jpg)
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Post by: Better Midlands on July 30, 2021, 09:56:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/j7xyeOL.jpg)
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Post by: Dyl Spinks on July 30, 2021, 10:09:48 AM
Excellent work, love the pics.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 30, 2021, 10:40:09 AM
Fabricant fawning over GB News despite their hateful programming: https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/1420784435348348929
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Post by: Darles Chickens on July 30, 2021, 03:38:28 PM
Fabricant fawning over GB News despite their hateful programming: https://twitter.com/Mike_Fabricant/status/1420784435348348929

"Corbynistas".

Nice to see they feel that he still has some influence.
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Post by: phantom_power on August 01, 2021, 02:59:16 PM
Silent majority? We fucking wish. They never fucking shut up
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 01, 2021, 03:11:14 PM
I see Paul Embery has been on GB News

Quote
The reality is the Labour has become a party of social activist, student radicals and middle-class liberals living in fashionable towns'

Paul Embery says Labour has lost touch with working class voters.

I'm assuming the typos are from whoever tweets at GB News and Embery didn't talk about "the Labour"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 01, 2021, 03:36:23 PM
On Paul Embry and Blue Labour.  Found this that might be of interest to Kankurette (Paul Embry & Blue Labour from a Marxist perspective).

https://www.redflagonline.org/paul-embery-when-the-dog-whistle-becomes-tedious/ (https://www.redflagonline.org/paul-embery-when-the-dog-whistle-becomes-tedious/)
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Post by: Kankurette on August 01, 2021, 03:44:03 PM
Nice one. Haven't Labour always been the party of social activists though?

Also totally agreed with this bit:
Quote
Embery projects onto the “traditional” working class all of his own racial insecurities, reactionary hang-ups and intolerant views, before then casting himself as their champion by virtue of having aired his own grievances in their name.

I have a guilt complex about men like Embery because deep down I wonder if they are right and if I am a massive snob because I'm a lefty. Even though I know for a fact that the idea he perpetuates that all white working-class people are racist or homophobic is BS. Working-class LGBT people exist!

ETA: faith, flag and family?! Fucking hell. That sounds like something an American Republican would say. And this big push by Blue Labour types to get women back into the kitchen ignores the fact that for a lot of us, it isn't an option. Not all of us have husbands and not all of us can afford to stay home and raise the kids. Plenty of working-class women have jobs but of course Blue Labour ignore that.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 01, 2021, 04:12:36 PM
I have a guilt complex about men like Embery because deep down I wonder if they are right

They are not right; though they are not making up their audience. This is all classic conman stuff; tap into and in some cases create problems for your audience then sell them a solution; leftists just need to have something to say to these people that doesn't play into these other peoples hands.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 01, 2021, 06:00:59 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7s-VXYWUAMnWIc?format=jpg&name=small)

From 2020.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 01, 2021, 06:10:54 PM
Golden
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Post by: Kankurette on August 01, 2021, 06:59:13 PM
It also shows, as if we didn't know already, how utterly fucking useless Starmer pandering is.
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Post by: idunnosomename on August 01, 2021, 07:13:35 PM
The remainer QCs are nearly as bad
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: phantom_power on August 02, 2021, 12:11:01 PM
I see Paul Embery has been on GB News

I'm assuming the typos are from whoever tweets at GB News and Embery didn't talk about "the Labour"


Such bullshit. The only way Labour might have lost touch with the working class is that the working class are constantly told by cunts like him and the right wing media that Labour have lost touch with them and might believe it
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Post by: Blue Jam on August 02, 2021, 01:01:59 PM
They invited Carol Decker from T'pau on after she posted on Twitter about how she went to a supermarket in Wales and thought the signs were all in forrin:

https://mobile.twitter.com/caroldecker/status/1421366246180802562

Quality content here lads.
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Post by: Kankurette on August 02, 2021, 01:20:25 PM
Such bullshit. The only way Labour might have lost touch with the working class is that the working class are constantly told by cunts like him and the right wing media that Labour have lost touch with them and might believe it
The white working class, tbf. BAME working-class people don't exist, apparently.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on August 02, 2021, 01:34:38 PM
has anyone ever seen Paul Embry put out a fire? cunt just seems to be a low-profile full time provocateur these days. hes anti-vax and TERF and all that.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 02, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
Not my picture.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7t_eHDWEAQ38wR?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: What Doth Life? on August 02, 2021, 06:00:04 PM
You want COAST CUNT! We've got him sat here.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on August 02, 2021, 06:11:40 PM
We’ve got him sitting here, remember your demographic
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 02, 2021, 06:21:13 PM
In fairness he may be sat there (against his will). Hostage eyes, as they all have from what little I’ve seen of the channel.
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Post by: What Doth Life? on August 02, 2021, 06:22:30 PM
We’ve got him sitting here, remember your demographic

Lord Digby Jones straps on his suicide vest.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on August 02, 2021, 06:24:59 PM
Digby, Lord Jones straps on his suicide vest
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Post by: What Doth Life? on August 02, 2021, 06:26:47 PM
Digby, Lord Jones straps on his suicide vest

Lord Suicide Jones; vest straps on his digby.
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Post by: Dineen on August 02, 2021, 07:52:19 PM
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Post by: Kankurette on August 02, 2021, 11:04:47 PM
has anyone ever seen Paul Embry put out a fire? cunt just seems to be a low-profile full time provocateur these days. hes anti-vax and TERF and all that.
I know he's anti-trans (because working-class trans people don't exist) and anti-BLM (because working-class black people don't exist), but what's his reason for being anti-vax? Vaccines are for posh middle-class snobs?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr_Simnock on August 02, 2021, 11:52:36 PM
I know he's anti-trans (because working-class trans people don't exist) and anti-BLM (because working-class black people don't exist), but what's his reason for being anti-vax? Vaccines are for posh middle-class snobs?

he just fucking hates cleaning his carpets
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 03, 2021, 01:01:58 PM
Billy Bragg has laid into Coast Wanker for his horseshit comparing people who don't comply with covid guidelines to those who fought in the Second World War. Cunt's a historian.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/billy-bragg-pens-perfect-response-to-shameful-neil-oliver-clip-284290/
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Post by: Bingo Fury on August 03, 2021, 01:18:39 PM
Archaeologist, not historian - though he loves to be mistaken for one.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 03, 2021, 01:27:23 PM
I know he's anti-trans (because working-class trans people don't exist) and anti-BLM (because working-class black people don't exist), but what's his reason for being anti-vax? Vaccines are for posh middle-class snobs?

A new business model has developed out of the internet in which if you have a platform that you can be paid to advertise things to the audiences; call them influencers or human billboards but the payment system remains the same.  There are multiple sources of finance for pushing anti-woke and anti-vax themes.

It worth noting that conspiracies travel well because they hijack the brains survival response system so they garner attention and support for their cult leaders.  A mistake people often make is thinking that fear responses are always experienced as negative qualia (individual sensation and thoughts) when in certain contexts they are the opposite; they are exciting, revelatory and energising (same mechanism is used in thrill seeking sports activities); these leaders are giving repressed minds a "thrill" for want of a better word. 
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 03, 2021, 05:04:32 PM
I see Ken Livingstone has been interviewed by Farage on his GB News slot.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 04, 2021, 12:34:06 AM
Archaeologist, not historian - though he loves to be mistaken for one.

Apologies for falling into his cunt's trap.

He is an Archaeologist Coast Cunt.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Midas on August 04, 2021, 01:25:24 AM
This thread is literally the only reminder I have that GB News still exists. When is Europe’s most nimble and sophisticated multi-platform broadcast newsroom gonna kick the bucket?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 04, 2021, 10:00:55 AM
I personally can't see it lasting to the end of this year.  Which means it'll be around FOREVER (ever...ever...ever...ever)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: lipsink on August 04, 2021, 10:05:00 AM
It seems to be trending a lot quite recently what with Neil Oliver saying he is willing to get Covid and pass it on to other people to protect out freedom. Seems like their desperate trolling is still working and people are getting outraged and giving them the exposure they want.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 04, 2021, 11:01:03 AM
It seems to be trending a lot quite recently what with Neil Oliver saying he is willing to get Covid and pass it on to other people to protect out freedom. Seems like their desperate trolling is still working and people are getting outraged and giving them the exposure they want.

Does it though? Because unless the outrage translates to eyes watching the programs then what’s the best case scenario, they get twice the ratings of Welsh Paw Patrol? Still doesn’t seem viable to me.

They’ve been pigeon-holed as a joke outfit now, people are unlikely to suggest watching it to friends/family with “it’s alright actually” because they don’t want to look like chumps.

I predict they’ll be gone by October, and will do lots of big rants in broadsheet newspapers about how they’ve been silenced/canceled by the woke elite, before settling into cozy establishment media jobs and quietly removing this section from their CVs.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on August 04, 2021, 05:26:29 PM
There are multiple sources of finance for pushing anti-woke and anti-vax themes.

There are even more sources of finance for pushing 'pro-woke' and 'pro-vax' themes though, surely?

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Archaeologist, not historian - though he loves to be mistaken for one.

This begs the question, what is a historian?

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The only way Labour might have lost touch with the working class is that the working class are constantly told by cunts like him and the right wing media that Labour have lost touch with them and might believe it

Those working class people who think Labour has lost touch with their concerns, they're just parroting what they heard on GB News (which nobody is watching), and the rest are just racist dog whistlers like Paul Embery?

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They’ve been pigeon-holed as a joke outfit now

By rival news sources, and by political opponents (often the same thing)?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jumblegraws on August 04, 2021, 05:51:30 PM
There are even more sources of finance for pushing 'pro-woke' and 'pro-vax' themes though, surely?
What’s your point? “More sources” doesn’t translate to “less competitive” if the majority of media types are already working those angles.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 04, 2021, 05:55:21 PM
Looking at the GB News clips on Twitter.

Dan Wooton calling people who work from home "lazy" and "selfish". Wonder how many Sun columnists work from home.

Ironic how he mentions teachers in his list of people who have been going to work every day when the right has been attacking teachers for the last eighteen months over their concerns about the risks of catching covid.

I've been working even harder during the last eighteen months as I've saved two hours a day not communing which gives me more time to get work done.

Alex Philips is also doing the same, ranting about "pencil pushers and desk jockeys in our civil service" and calling them "taxpayer-funded apparatchiks" doing their work "with daytime telly on in the background".

The people who complain about others working from home tend to be the same ones who complain about having to wear masks on public transport and at work and then wonder why people don't want to go back to the office.

It does feel that GB News pushes the government's agenda quite a lot, despite their claims. Wanting to make people return to the office in the hope they will spend money in the High Street in their lunchbreak is exactly what the government want.

Almost feels like enforced spending really - what next, will people have to go to a certain number of shops each week, or something? People shouldn't have to risk their health to bailout High Street shops. I imagine most people made to go back to the office will bring their lunch in from home and won't go to Pret a Manger or Costa.

Something interesting on Twitter is how a lot of accounts that are fans of GB News are desperately trying to get each other to follow them.

https://twitter.com/sicockcroft1973/status/1422935213290708997
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 04, 2021, 06:00:33 PM
Something interesting on Twitter is how a lot of accounts that are fans of GB News are desperately trying to get each other to follow them.

Just FBPE for overt, rather than closet reactionaries.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on August 04, 2021, 07:19:45 PM
I’m not taking anything AT says in good faith. I’m not surprised he’s an anti-vaxxer as well.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 04, 2021, 07:40:40 PM
Looking at the GB News clips on Twitter.

Dan Wooton calling people who work from home "lazy" and "selfish". Wonder how many Sun columnists work from home.

Ironic how he mentions teachers in his list of people who have been going to work every day when the right has been attacking teachers for the last eighteen months over their concerns about the risks of catching covid.

I've been working even harder during the last eighteen months as I've saved two hours a day not communing which gives me more time to get work done.

Alex Philips is also doing the same, ranting about "pencil pushers and desk jockeys in our civil service" and calling them "taxpayer-funded apparatchiks" doing their work "with daytime telly on in the background".

The people who complain about others working from home tend to be the same ones who complain about having to wear masks on public transport and at work and then wonder why people don't want to go back to the office.

It does feel that GB News pushes the government's agenda quite a lot, despite their claims. Wanting to make people return to the office in the hope they will spend money in the High Street in their lunchbreak is exactly what the government want.

Almost feels like enforced spending really - what next, will people have to go to a certain number of shops each week, or something? People shouldn't have to risk their health to bailout High Street shops. I imagine most people made to go back to the office will bring their lunch in from home and won't go to Pret a Manger or Costa.

Something interesting on Twitter is how a lot of accounts that are fans of GB News are desperately trying to get each other to follow them.

https://twitter.com/sicockcroft1973/status/1422935213290708997

Ignoring the fact my employer has forced most of us to work from home (and it's likely we will remain as almost permanent home-workers even when things do go back to something resembling normality, seeing as how 75% of our office space has been rented out to third parties to try and get out of the massive financial hole we're in [like most other public sector departments]), this last 18 months is the busiest I've EVER been in my job, which I've been doing for about 13 years now.  I've typically been doing 10 hour days with only about 20 minutes for lunch, and apart from an extended christmas break last year, I've only been able to take the odd day or afternoon here and there (after carrying over 12 days leave from last year's allowance, I still have about 31 days to use before the end of next March, purely because I've not been able to take any time off).

So, I dunno...fuck Dan Wooton right in his fucking tits I guess.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on August 04, 2021, 09:53:35 PM
I work from home - I did before COVID. I work 6-7 days a week. I've worked until midnight on jobs that are due the next day, I've spent whole days practically glued to the computer with almost no screen breaks, due to having to do jobs with very tight deadlines. I've been balls deep in translation work for the past two months. I barely have a social life, for fuck's sake. I only leave the house for shopping, walks and the odd hospital appointment. Wootton can lick my taint. Or he can try translating 38 pages of badly written French medical notes into English, perhaps.

ETA: my brother also works from home part-time (I think he has to do a certain number of days in the office) and he's a civil servant. He's hardly sitting around doing fuck all.
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Post by: monkfromhavana on August 05, 2021, 08:05:04 AM
For the record, I am working from home and spend most of my day watching Limmy.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Roofdog on August 05, 2021, 08:35:04 AM
Has Neil come back off his holidays yet?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Neomod on August 05, 2021, 09:40:29 AM
Nice how all these GBN chancers think that everyone else must have a protestant work ethic except them.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 05, 2021, 12:30:30 PM
Looking at the GB News clips on Twitter.

Dan Wooton calling people who work from home "lazy" and "selfish". Wonder how many Sun columnists work from home.

Ironic how he mentions teachers in his list of people who have been going to work every day when the right has been attacking teachers for the last eighteen months over their concerns about the risks of catching covid.

I've been working even harder during the last eighteen months as I've saved two hours a day not communing which gives me more time to get work done.

Alex Philips is also doing the same, ranting about "pencil pushers and desk jockeys in our civil service" and calling them "taxpayer-funded apparatchiks" doing their work "with daytime telly on in the background".

The people who complain about others working from home tend to be the same ones who complain about having to wear masks on public transport and at work and then wonder why people don't want to go back to the office.

It does feel that GB News pushes the government's agenda quite a lot, despite their claims. Wanting to make people return to the office in the hope they will spend money in the High Street in their lunchbreak is exactly what the government want.

Almost feels like enforced spending really - what next, will people have to go to a certain number of shops each week, or something? People shouldn't have to risk their health to bailout High Street shops. I imagine most people made to go back to the office will bring their lunch in from home and won't go to Pret a Manger or Costa.

Something interesting on Twitter is how a lot of accounts that are fans of GB News are desperately trying to get each other to follow them.

https://twitter.com/sicockcroft1973/status/1422935213290708997

Part of it is them wanting people back in the office and shopping, but a larger part is just trying to drum home to the retirees watching at home that the young are lazy and want something for nothing so to never, ever give an inch to help these feckless idlers.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: ErnestTakadichi on August 05, 2021, 02:10:03 PM
I’m not taking anything AT says in good faith. I’m not surprised he’s an anti-vaxxer as well.

But he's just asking questions. He just wants to understand how things work! He's just an innocent (albeit one with a deeply ingrained sense of right and wrong) wandering the world in search of truth. What could you possibly have against that?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jasha on August 05, 2021, 03:49:12 PM
Archaeologist, not historian - though he loves to be mistaken for one.

Is it easier to become an archaeologist that a historian, I'd have thought the former would carry more weight/require more formal qualifications?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2021, 03:51:14 PM
Archaeologist, not historian - though he loves to be mistaken for one.

Seems like he likes being mistaken for a journalist as well.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 05, 2021, 04:12:27 PM
And mistaken for not being a cunt.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on August 05, 2021, 04:36:51 PM
Some competition for GB News?

(https://i.imgur.com/U2K2BXx.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2021, 04:40:06 PM
I've always wanted one of those booze globes but I've gone right off them now.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2021, 04:41:07 PM
did he nick the prop phone off noel edmonds?
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 05, 2021, 05:03:12 PM
Looks like it's being filmed inside a bunker.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2021, 05:11:39 PM
Looks like it's being filmed inside a bunker.

Do you think we could seal it off with them inside it?
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 05, 2021, 05:12:24 PM
Hope they've got enough Lugers and cyanide.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 05, 2021, 05:13:06 PM
Just put a chair in front of the door. They'd be dead in an hour from the stench alone.
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Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on August 05, 2021, 05:18:16 PM
Still, it's nice to see that Gervais and Merchant have patched up their differences.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on August 05, 2021, 05:24:23 PM
I've always wanted one of those booze globes but I've gone right off them now.

I always thought that was called a tantalus but it’s not
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Post by: Famous Mortimer on August 05, 2021, 05:35:19 PM
I’m not taking anything AT says in good faith. I’m not surprised he’s an anti-vaxxer as well.
Just put him on "ignore". You'll miss absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 05, 2021, 05:45:45 PM
I always thought that was called a tantalus but it’s not

You're thinking of the spider
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on August 05, 2021, 06:56:22 PM
Some competition for GB News?

(https://i.imgur.com/U2K2BXx.png)
another classic shop from Mr F.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Trumpet on August 05, 2021, 08:00:22 PM
Ben Affleck's not doing well
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 05, 2021, 09:32:42 PM
Ben Affleck's not doing well

His hair looks to be growing back though.  Probs doesn't need those plugs for much longer.
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Post by: Kankurette on August 05, 2021, 09:42:04 PM
Just put him on "ignore". You'll miss absolutely nothing.
I have. Unfortunately I still see whatever drivel he posts when people quote it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on August 05, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
Some competition for GB News?

(https://i.imgur.com/U2K2BXx.png)

Are they interviewing the globe?

Also what's up with the pissed table angle?
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Post by: jobotic on August 05, 2021, 10:17:41 PM
Why aren't they smoking?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: sevendaughters on August 05, 2021, 11:08:25 PM
just saw Tom Stoppard asked on GB News if he was the first victim of cancel culture.

oh wait it was on Newsnight.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on August 06, 2021, 01:51:51 AM
did he nick the prop phone off noel edmonds?

He pretends to get phone calls from Churchill during the interview.
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Post by: touchingcloth on August 06, 2021, 02:05:42 AM
Some competition for GB News?

(https://i.imgur.com/U2K2BXx.png)

I could see it from Ricky but I’m disappointed in Smerch.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Farenheit on August 06, 2021, 03:17:24 AM
Deso as it is, The Nigel Farage pints show does tick a lot of boxes for the type of audience they're aiming for. I would love to know how much he makes and all the behind the scenes bitterness and infighting between different presenters about who's getting better time slots and who earns what.

I think they should try a seance show as well to get the viewers back get some viewers. The Daily Express is full of news stories about aliens and ghosts so I reckon there'd be an audience for it.

They could have a pure barrage of WW1 seances starting mid October where viewers can call in to speak to their dead great-grandfathers who were killed at Ypres. The dead teenagers could all confirm that the war was the happiest time of their lives and they were proud to have fought for freedom of speech. Looking down from Great British Heaven, they're a bit worried about the turn the country's taken recently with the 'woke mob' running things.

They could have famous guests from beyond the grave as well... Thatcher, Churchill, Enoch Powell all chiming in on recent events they're keeping an eye from the astral plane, ask the Duke of Wellington about cancel culture.

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Post by: idunnosomename on August 06, 2021, 07:16:45 AM
Are they interviewing the globe?
it'll have its own GB News show soon.

Then as a final insult, get off with Billie Piper
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on August 06, 2021, 12:52:40 PM
I’m not taking anything AT says in good faith. I’m not surprised he’s an anti-vaxxer as well.

I'm not an 'anti vaxxer', I'm double jabbed and ambivalent about it! I've said nothing to suggest otherwise.

What’s your point? “More sources” doesn’t translate to “less competitive” if the majority of media types are already working those angles.

Very simply, if there are sources of funding that are pro-something, there will also be sources of funding that are anti-that thing, and vice versa, and this is right and proper. Rarely much funding for the Don't Knows, alas.

But he's just asking questions. He just wants to understand how things work! He's just an innocent (albeit one with a deeply ingrained sense of right and wrong) wandering the world in search of truth. What could you possibly have against that?

Not me mate, I'm a 'sea lion' I am! It's a handy new term that online debsoc slacktivists have created to disparage people who encourage them to expound upon and rationalise the lazy absolute statements they make.

So if a historian isn't someone who studies, reads and writes about history to the extent that they get commissioned to write and publish books and documentaries about history... what is a historian?
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Post by: RicoMNKN on August 06, 2021, 02:51:16 PM
What's going on with their Twitter follower drop at the moment?
https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/gbnews

The presenter taking the knee got a big one, and Coast Wazzock saying he'd happily infect people with covid (or words to that effect) got a smaller one.  Other than that, they'd been slowly climbing.  However, the last couple of days have been dropping for no obvious reason. 
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 06, 2021, 04:26:03 PM
What's going on with their Twitter follower drop at the moment?
https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/gbnews

The presenter taking the knee got a big one, and Coast Wazzock saying he'd happily infect people with covid (or words to that effect) got a smaller one.  Other than that, they'd been slowly climbing.  However, the last couple of days have been dropping for no obvious reason.

Canceled the direct debit for the bot farm?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on August 06, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
What's an online debsoc slacktivist? Why do people write like this?

Sainsburys have pulled their advertising now. (New socialist heroes etc etc)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 06, 2021, 04:49:43 PM
debsoc - debating society
slacktivist  - someone who supports political causes by means of social media and little else
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 06, 2021, 09:25:46 PM
"Spoons, eh?"
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on August 07, 2021, 07:43:29 AM
Sadly Farage does seem to be building an audience - 80,000 to 145,000 total viewers for the shows last week but very dependent on who the guests are it seems. No success in retaining his viewers for the slot afterwards. Average viewers across the rest of the channel are typically 5,000 to 30,000 so he's all they have.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on August 07, 2021, 09:16:00 AM
The Tristrams at Led By Donkeys have done another spiffing campaign to stop Sainsburys advertising during Farage's show. Great work folks! One step closer to world peace AND I can get some Brunswick ham off their deli counter again today! That's the power of grassroots funding towards putting up lots of billboards run by people who clearly have connections in the putting up billboards industry!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Chedney Honks on August 07, 2021, 09:29:04 AM
It worth noting that conspiracies travel well because they hijack the brains survival response system so they garner attention and support for their cult leaders.  A mistake people often make is thinking that fear responses are always experienced as negative qualia (individual sensation and thoughts) when in certain contexts they are the opposite; they are exciting, revelatory and energising (same mechanism is used in thrill seeking sports activities); these leaders are giving repressed minds a "thrill" for want of a better word.

Cheers, this is interesting. Also explains why I've had a boner for the duration of Covid.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on August 07, 2021, 09:31:10 AM
I can’t see Andrew Neil and Farage working together, Neil’s far too conceited
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 07, 2021, 10:31:19 AM
Sadly Farage does seem to be building an audience - 80,000 to 145,000 total viewers for the shows last week but very dependent on who the guests are it seems. No success in retaining his viewers for the slot afterwards. Average viewers across the rest of the channel are typically 5,000 to 30,000 so he's all they have.

Makes sense there is a market for Farage but it comes with caveats.  His audience is much further to the right than even GBNews would have wanted and therefore just make GBNews another overtly "right-wing" news outlets, which despite that always actually being the case, they never wanted it to appear that way. 

His audience is also quite nutty with massive overlaps with conspiracy theorists (Farage always has to try and manage these people); which means a with us or against us mentality can arise easily (however they forgo this most of the time for nationalist and anti-immigration collaboration).  This audience is however unstable and consistently involved in carrying out activities/saying things that are unpalatable to the majority.  On that point they are no way near the majority of people in this country, most people want vaccines, masks, a "sensible immigration policy" that they don't understand but never bother to look into and most of all are greedy and self-interested, they are not looking to get involved in right-wing activism.  That isn't to say that this mindset isn't highly problematic, just that the audience is to a degree self-limiting and not cohesive.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 07, 2021, 05:32:03 PM
The Tristrams at Led By Donkeys have done another spiffing campaign to stop Sainsburys advertising during Farage's show. Great work folks! One step closer to world peace AND I can get some Brunswick ham off their deli counter again today! That's the power of grassroots funding towards putting up lots of billboards run by people who clearly have connections in the putting up billboards industry!

Might not be one step closer to world peace, but surely getting Sainsburys to stop advertising on GB News is a good achievement?
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Post by: ErnestTakadichi on August 09, 2021, 10:13:54 AM
Yes but some of them might have posh names. Can you imagine!?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on August 09, 2021, 10:52:43 AM
I find them a bit irritating but this does seem a strange line of attack
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 09, 2021, 03:44:21 PM
They're starting to drum up support among the public ahead of attempting to sell off more of the NHS

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‘We have to now ask ourselves if the NHS is fit for purpose. It obviously isn’t.’

Patrick Christys says ‘we now have a healthcare system where if you’re poor, you might die. If you can’t afford to go private you just have to wait indefinitely for treatment.’

Perhaps the solution might be proper funding and better treatment of NHS staff, Patrick?

Also this from Farage:

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1424640657247948800

Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on August 09, 2021, 04:34:37 PM
I may be missing the context there, but I can't see how Patrick Christy can possibly think "If you can't afford to go private, you're fucked" is any sort of an argument for more privatisation. Unless of course the argument is "People who can't afford it shouldn't get it," which I suppose is the Tory mindset in a nutshell.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 09, 2021, 04:52:34 PM
It's a really dishonest statement as most private healthcare providers in the UK won't even touch you if you're properly ill. Case in point, King Edward VII couldn't be any happier to have Phil the Greek stay in one of their plush suites, but the moment he needed an op, they shipped him down the road to St. Barts NHS Trust with the rest of the proles.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 09, 2021, 06:01:09 PM
Andrew Neil critisies antivaxxers, bit risky for him given how many GB News viewers are antivaxxers and/or COVID deniers:

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Anti-vaxxers protest BBC coverage of pandemic by storming a building in White City. A building the BBC vacated in 2013 and is now luxury flats. Is there a link between stupidity and anti-vax? Opinions vary but evidence is growing …

I like how his main reason for finding them stupid is because they got the wrong building as opposed to putting the lives of people at risk and prolonging the pandemic.

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1424744371551973380
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 09, 2021, 06:48:47 PM
Neil's claiming he lost his job at the bbc here:
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1424761197019209729

Although in August 2020 he claimed he wasn't a bbc employee
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1293329492086226946

A month later he announced he was leaving to set up GB News.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54299057

mad revisionist cunt
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on August 11, 2021, 11:04:31 AM
Might not be one step closer to world peace, but surely getting Sainsburys to stop advertising on GB News is a good achievement?

Except… they didn’t. All Sainsbury’s have said is that they don’t have any more adverts scheduled with GB News because their current campaign has ended: https://twitter.com/danbarker/status/1423686605341134850
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 11, 2021, 12:27:58 PM
From what I saw some firms didn't even know they were even being advertised on GBN because of all the middlemen/brokers in advertising.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on August 11, 2021, 03:23:19 PM
The Tristrams at Led By Donkeys have done another spiffing campaign to stop Sainsburys advertising during Farage's show. Great work folks! One step closer to world peace AND I can get some Brunswick ham off their deli counter again today! That's the power of grassroots funding towards putting up lots of billboards run by people who clearly have connections in the putting up billboards industry!

Not only putting up billboards, but putting up billboards of rightwing people saying rightwing things that people who like rightwing things will think is good. Genius!

From what I saw some firms didn't even know they were even being advertised on GBN because of all the middlemen/brokers in advertising.

Yeah companies will just buy a load of ad time on Discovery's channels, so they could be getting a slot on Eurosport or they could be getting one during Nigel's Grief Hour
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on August 11, 2021, 04:00:55 PM
oh yeah I didn't reply to that. Well, all I think about Led By Donkeys, they raise all this money and use it... for what? Billboards? That are always like a tweet for some reason? And what did these billboards achieve? Absolutely nothing. Because they presented no positive alternative. Just "politicians eh, what are they like?". They weren't putting the money towards anything useful, just basically having a big tantrum.

Farage is a cunt, but he's not really dangerous anymore. He was before the referendum, the BBC shouldn't have had him on like every fucking week. But now it all seems like a bit barn door after the horse has gone outside and shit everywhere.

Look at them, the fucking smug arseholes. And their shitty little Camden pint mugs.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8GyXiKWQAIrAhf.jpg)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on August 11, 2021, 04:19:59 PM
Fucking hate those pint glasses, just awful.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: ErnestTakadichi on August 11, 2021, 04:24:26 PM
I did the digital marketing for an energy company a few years back and we had people posting on our social media complaining that we were advertising on Breitbart etc.  Turns out we were, but we'd just signed up for the "general" google ad package, which included right-wing sites. You could manually remove them from the dashboard wherever needed.

I'd expect a massive company like Sainsbo's would be a bit more aware, but maybe not. At least they won't be doing it again, whatever the reason.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: holyzombiejesus on August 11, 2021, 04:25:39 PM
Farage is a cunt, but he's not really dangerous anymore. He was before the referendum, the BBC shouldn't have had him on like every fucking week. But now it all seems like a bit barn door after the horse has gone outside and shit everywhere.

Look at them, the fucking smug arseholes. And their shitty little Camden pint mugs.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8GyXiKWQAIrAhf.jpg)

Of course he's still dangerous. The amount of people I see parroting his shitty views about the migrant crossings, he's been one of the loudest voices bringing it to people's attention. He's certainly far more vile and concerning than some mildly irritating people who have stupid pint glasses and moustaches.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: king_tubby on August 11, 2021, 04:31:37 PM
Good article on Led by Donkeys by Dawn Foster, which I think I linked to last time we were on about them.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/may/19/led-by-donkeys-billboards-nigel-farage-ann-widdecombe
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Utterdrivel on August 11, 2021, 05:19:31 PM
Fucking hate those pint glasses, just awful.


Never seen them before, squat little things aren't they. And the glasses.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 11, 2021, 07:28:52 PM
oh yeah I didn't reply to that. Well, all I think about Led By Donkeys, they raise all this money and use it... for what? Billboards? That are always like a tweet for some reason? And what did these billboards achieve? Absolutely nothing. Because they presented no positive alternative. Just "politicians eh, what are they like?". They weren't putting the money towards anything useful, just basically having a big tantrum.

Farage is a cunt, but he's not really dangerous anymore. He was before the referendum, the BBC shouldn't have had him on like every fucking week. But now it all seems like a bit barn door after the horse has gone outside and shit everywhere.

Look at them, the fucking smug arseholes. And their shitty little Camden pint mugs.

It's not constructive and they probably are wankers but it's preferable to having advertisers rubbing shit in my face and seems to annoy the right people.

I guess if they had any balls they'd be borrow techniques from Advertising Shits in Your Head or other people engaging in 'brandalism', but I suppose if you start doing that while sending for politicians you might find yourself in trouble quicker and I guess the fact that they're not technically doing anything wrong might wind the gov't up a bit.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: phantom_power on August 11, 2021, 07:46:14 PM
Pretty sure they don't get to choose which pint glasses they get in a pub
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mothman on August 11, 2021, 11:24:26 PM
Interesting spread of opinions here about the LBDs. I’m curious where the more negative ones are stemming from? I was never under any illusions as to the efficacy of what they were doing, chances are they changed very few minds at all, or perhaps any. And the revelation that they all turned out to be slightly posh millennial hipsters doesn’t feel that earth-shattering to me. At the end of the day, it’s activism that aligns with some of the things I believe in. Sure they could be doing “better” (more productive, more helpful) things with their time… but then couldn’t we all?  … and the money they raised? Well, on that point, as far as we can tell they spent the money on doing/it to do the things people gave it to them to do.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on August 12, 2021, 01:13:04 AM
I just think it's part of that smug mindset of "oh look at the bad people in charge" while maintaining "oh better things aren't possible, you silly billy" that annoys me so much. Brexit probably would've happened without Nigel Farage, even if he did play a part in tipping it via the BBC. Still not convinced he's dangerous now. Considering how after Brexit Day last year he declared his personal war on China, he was pretty weak on Vince Cable doing a pathetic little jerk-off for the state.

The biggest problem in this country is the grip of the print media, which should be fucking dead, but is kept going for purely propagandistic purposes. Imagine if someone did a celeb poster campaign against them in late 2019. Oh but look at this from Dominic Raab! He didn't tweet it, he actually said it! oh why the fuck does anyone care.

ugh i dont know. they achieved nothing but I dont think GB News will either. but I emphasise: i am just a cunt on the internet. i used to think better things were possible but now i wish i was dead.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on August 12, 2021, 07:52:09 AM
According to the Telegraph Andrew Neil, chairman of GB News, has fallen out with Angelos Frangopoulos, the CEO who came from Sky News Australia, which leans more towards Fox News in style. (Sky in Australia is still owned by Murdoch.) Frangopoulos is reported to want to push the outrage thing more, which worked for him in Australia, recruiting Farage against Neil's wishes and now bringing in presenters from Murdoch's Talk Radio who better fit that style. Don't see Simon McCoy lasting there much longer.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: phantom_power on August 12, 2021, 08:35:29 AM
I just think it's part of that smug mindset of "oh look at the bad people in charge" while maintaining "oh better things aren't possible, you silly billy" that annoys me so much.

Where do they extol the latter sentiment? It seems a bit like projection, no pun intended
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 12, 2021, 08:48:09 AM
They are going to get more shrill until they get noticed.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: SpiderChrist on August 12, 2021, 08:59:40 AM
. i used to think better things were possible but now i wish i was dead.

I'm not alone. Thank fuck for that.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 12, 2021, 09:37:50 AM
Interesting spread of opinions here about the LBDs. I’m curious where the more negative ones are stemming from? I was never under any illusions as to the efficacy of what they were doing, chances are they changed very few minds at all, or perhaps any. And the revelation that they all turned out to be slightly posh millennial hipsters doesn’t feel that earth-shattering to me. At the end of the day, it’s activism that aligns with some of the things I believe in. Sure they could be doing “better” (more productive, more helpful) things with their time… but then couldn’t we all?  … and the money they raised? Well, on that point, as far as we can tell they spent the money on doing/it to do the things people gave it to them to do.

I think that's the thing, with this and similar things there's often a very serious, po-faced complaint that it isn't visibly doing anything useful, but I'm not sure that's the entire point of acts of minor dissent.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 12, 2021, 06:07:31 PM
It doesn't seem to be sure whether Neil will return to GB News.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 12, 2021, 06:36:31 PM
It doesn't seem to be sure whether Neil will return to GB News.

It seems more unlikely with every week that passes doesn't it?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 12, 2021, 09:47:54 PM
fallen out with the chief exec it seems

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2021/08/gb-news-and-maybe-no-brillo.html?m=0
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ignatius_S on August 12, 2021, 09:55:49 PM
fallen out with the chief exec it seems

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2021/08/gb-news-and-maybe-no-brillo.html?m=0

Yeah, as steveh posted, The Daily Telegraph reported this yesterday and following that, multiple outlets are saying the same thing.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: An tSaoi on August 13, 2021, 01:49:31 AM
Accidentally saw a bit of this last night (it's right above BBC One on my telly). The technical incompetence continues unabated. They had an interview with some guy, and the introductory caption cut his name off. Something like:

COMING UP AT 10
EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH DR. JOHN SMI
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sherringford Hovis on August 13, 2021, 02:10:08 AM
Not likely to ever watch this shite, but I'm sure my wife raised an eyebrow when my gaze lingered a little too long on Gloria ex-Labour MP's Southerly chesticles on the cover of Private Eye.

My dick is a gammon, clearly.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 13, 2021, 01:02:20 PM
Does GB News stand for Government Bootlicker News?

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@GBNEWS
Some Great British news this morning! The UK economy grew by 4.8% in the second quarter of 2021, the Office for National Statistics has said, as lockdown restrictions were eased.

Ignoring that it was 0.2% below forecast.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ignatius_S on August 13, 2021, 01:33:51 PM
Does GB News stand for Government Bootlicker News?

Ignoring that it was 0.2% below forecast.

The 5% forecast was the Bank of England's - not all economists had it at that; I think The Guardian's reporting suggest others had it at 4.8% and other outlets were saying 4.8% match economists' expectations (such as a Reuters poll of economists. In any case, a forecast is just a forecast.

The GDP growth in in June was faster than expected, incidentally.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: RenegadeScrew on August 14, 2021, 11:52:37 AM
I'm not alone. Thank fuck for that.

Those who have crossed with direct eyes
To the GB news kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Faraged arseholes but as
The hollow men
The stuffed men
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on August 14, 2021, 12:07:52 PM
Not likely to ever watch this shite, but I'm sure my wife raised an eyebrow when my gaze lingered a little too long on Gloria ex-Labour MP's Southerly chesticles on the cover of Private Eye.

My dick is a gammon, clearly.

She's the token lefty[1] so you're fine.

Interesting spread of opinions here about the LBDs. I’m curious where the more negative ones are stemming from? I was never under any illusions as to the efficacy of what they were doing, chances are they changed very few minds at all, or perhaps any. And the revelation that they all turned out to be slightly posh millennial hipsters doesn’t feel that earth-shattering to me. At the end of the day, it’s activism that aligns with some of the things I believe in. Sure they could be doing “better” (more productive, more helpful) things with their time… but then couldn’t we all?  … and the money they raised? Well, on that point, as far as we can tell they spent the money on doing/it to do the things people gave it to them to do.

I just don't see how their tactic of plastering rightwing people saying rightwing things on billboards is good for anything other than rightwing politics.

If some rightwing idiots were putting up billboards of Diane Abbott saying "I believe in the NHS, we should fund it" we'd all see it was dim shit by idiots who expect us to disagree with people's sincere opinions with no context.

On the other hand these guys were involved in the Covid memorial wall by the river opposite Parliament which I really recommend if you happen to be in the area. Genuinely sobering and very moving.
 1. Comparatively
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dissolute ocelot on August 14, 2021, 12:21:28 PM
There's a lot of satire like LBD which appeals to the faithful and encourages them, but most is in private for self selecting audiences: books, clubs/theatres, BBC2. Putting it in public is very different and some people must see a Boris quote and nod. But are the nodding Tories more numerous than tutting europhiles?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cuellar on August 14, 2021, 10:29:24 PM
But are the nodding Tories more numerous than tutting europhiles?

Evidently
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 23, 2021, 11:15:29 AM
Tory MPs trying to make sure their mouthpiece stays viable. Daily Mail reports:

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The hard-Left campaign group that launched an advertising boycott against GB News is being accused of breaking company laws by participating in 'political activity'.

Ten Conservative MPs are calling for an investigation into Stop Funding Hate, claiming the group advocates 'cancel culture' by discouraging businesses from advertising with the broadcaster and other media organisations. 

Stop Funding Hate is a Community Interest Company (CIC), a firm which is intended to 'benefit the community' with a structure that makes it easier to attract charitable donations, The Telegraph reports. ...

A Stop Funding Hate spokesman told MailOnline: 'In a free society, we all have the right to encourage brands to advertise ethically and avoid funding toxic media. To deny this would be to undermine basic free market principles.'

In June this year the campaign group hit the headlines after the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust awarded a £50,000 two-year grant to the online activists. 

Tory MP and former Minister Robert Goodwill had said it was a 'blatant example of the Joseph Rowntree Charitable Trust funding organisations that quite clearly have a very political agenda, and actually quite a nasty political agenda.'

Craig Mackinlay, another Tory MP, called on the Charity Commission to investigate the funding.

In a letter to Helen Stephenson, the regulator's chief executive, he said: 'The activities of Stop Funding Hate are demonstrably party political and hugely divisive.'...

I mean Stop Funding Hate is clearly not party political, if it was calling for boycotts of companies that support the Tories you could call that party politicial.

And opposing GB News is now "hard-Left"? According to Henry Martin of the Mail Online it is.

It would be interesting to look at other alleged breaches of CICs and see how much concern Tory MPs have raised about them.

Meanwhile, Romesh has written a good article on GB News: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/aug/13/gb-news-challenging-consensus

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...The point about challenging the consensus is slightly contradictory in the case of GB News. The channel sits on the right politically, which is also where our country sits – based on election results in the recent past and most likely in the medium-term future, and so isn’t GB News in fact the consensus? Aren’t the left-leaning journos and comedians that GB News is kicking against challenging the consensus so much that people are shouting out for more voices on TV that reinforce it? I think the point I am trying to make here is that if you discuss the consensus for long enough, the word consensus ceases to have any meaning at all.

Perhaps, if you believe that news is generally biased, then you feel that you have to take a strong counterpoint in order to counteract that, in a similar way that if you want to counteract discrimination you have to push hard the other way in favour of diversity. Perhaps the only reason I find GB News to be distasteful is because I don’t agree with it: and presumably that’s the way its viewers feel about almost every other channel on TV...

Michael Fabricant, in his latest tweets promoting GB News, has reminded us that the channel has now been on air for 10 weeks now. 
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 04, 2021, 12:08:36 PM
Apparently Christopher Biggins has been on Farage's GB show defending Brexit. Next we'll see the Tweenies calling for more protection for statues.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-b2CDqX0AQ2T1g?format=jpg&name=900x900)

According to the Guardian Neil is not coming back to GB News next week as was planned, they don't know when or if he will be back.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 04, 2021, 12:41:09 PM
I preferred Biggins when he was whiteying in the back of a van with Pat Butcher.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Jack Shaftoe on September 04, 2021, 01:41:59 PM
And opposing GB News is now "hard-Left"? According to Henry Martin of the Mail Online it is.

This is it now, everyone who isn't actually in the current Cabinet or writing leaders in tabloids is a hard-left woke extremist who hates are brave boys, Christmas and toby jugs, probably.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 04, 2021, 02:18:55 PM
Guardian reporting Neil's not coming back: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/03/andrew-neil-will-not-make-expected-return-to-gb-news-next-week

Also hiring Isabel Oakeshott apparently.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 04, 2021, 02:30:00 PM
Guardian reporting Neil's not coming back: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/03/andrew-neil-will-not-make-expected-return-to-gb-news-next-week

Also hiring Isabel Oakeshott apparently.

There’s always another hateful money-grubber waiting in the wings.

Though this thread is still going weeks at a time without updates so I’m guessing it is having zero cultural impact.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on September 04, 2021, 04:04:25 PM
Zero cultural impact, apart from the Labour party deciding its paltry viewers are amongst their target voters.

So, zero cultural impact, then.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Pranet on September 04, 2021, 04:28:44 PM
Youtube keeps promoting GB News videos to me.

I don't know why I'm careful to avoid this sort of thing on youtube because I don't want this shit recommended to me.

I don't watch political videos of any type on youtube actually.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 04, 2021, 04:30:12 PM
Youtube keeps promoting GB News videos to me.

I don't know why I'm careful to avoid this sort of thing on youtube because I don't want this shit recommended to me.

I don't watch political videos of any type on youtube actually.

I get no political stuff but feel like the algorithm is actively trying to groom me into becoming the next Techmoan.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 04, 2021, 05:46:05 PM
There’s always another hateful money-grubber waiting in the wings.

Though this thread is still going weeks at a time without updates so I’m guessing it is having zero cultural impact.

I think GB News are mainly doing the government's bidding, distracting people from the real issues with their culture war nonsense and reducing support for dealing with COVID.  They might as well call the channel Grotty Boris News, to me it seems to be doing the same Fox News did for Trump. I think it's shoring up support for Johnson among his base so in those ways it is having a big cultural impact.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on September 13, 2021, 05:57:01 PM
NEIL GONE

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58464664

Slightly pointed bit in his announcement:

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"I wish GB News well in continuing to fulfil its founding promise and mission to reach audiences currently underserved by existing news broadcasters."

(emphasis mine)


By the way, had to unearth this thread from halfway down page 2, telling in itself.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on September 13, 2021, 06:03:43 PM
Also three senior producers have resigned over the direction and likely Simon McCoy will go too, while Ann Widdicombe and Martin Daubney are said to be joining, tho Piers Morgan turned them down.

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1437429292217077765
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 13, 2021, 06:29:29 PM
Also three senior producers have resigned over the direction and likely Simon McCoy will go too, while Ann Widdicombe and Martin Daubney are said to be joining, tho Piers Morgan turned them down.

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1437429292217077765

"Only today, political commentator Tom Harwood launched his new show, The Briefing, with a chyron spelling his name as Tom Hardwood"
(Times tweet (https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1437431155427532804))

The Times is probably still annoyed they didn't get to launch their own right-wing TV network, but still funny watching them attack GB News.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on September 13, 2021, 08:57:19 PM
What intrigued me was their use of the word "chyron" for "caption", I didn't realise it had become a word in general usage.  Apparently it is now in the dictionary though (unlike "Aston"), albeit highlighted as a trademark.

So in theory the Times tweeter should get a lawyer's letter insisting they spell it with a capital C at least.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Uncle TechTip on September 13, 2021, 08:58:27 PM
I wonder, did Simon McCoy take the BBC redundancy before this job as so many journalists seem to be doing at the moment, I wonder if he's kicking himself.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Rev+ on September 13, 2021, 09:26:04 PM
What intrigued me was their use of the word "chyron" for "caption", I didn't realise it had become a word in general usage.

Dripped through from the US and criticism of TV news a few years back, seemingly overnight.  Everyone was calling captions chyrons all of a sudden.  I only picked up on it because it's a really annoying word to hear spoken in sentence after sentence.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on September 13, 2021, 09:30:15 PM
Well it sounds like an alien race. What's wrong with caption? Why do they have to keep mucking about etc.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: kalowski on September 13, 2021, 09:34:29 PM
Chyron is not in my Chambers dictionary so they can fuck right off.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: petrilTanaka on September 13, 2021, 09:48:35 PM
(https://generate.gifglobe.com/?s=partridge&e=S01E04&i=S01E04-o4lOI8wf&t1=&t2=CHYRON%20IS%20A%20BRAND%20NAME)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Beagle 2 on September 13, 2021, 10:47:59 PM
It's amazing they thought any sort of new TV channel was a good idea. "Hey, you know what are hot right now? Channels!"

Quote
...it has enjoyed some success on social media, with one recent monologue attacking the US president, Joe Biden, attracting 10m views on TikTok.

Churn that shit out for 50p a whack then. All that money spunked to be not as successful as Jonathan Pie.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: seepage on September 14, 2021, 09:30:14 AM
What intrigued me was their use of the word "chyron" for "caption", I didn't realise it had become a word in general usage.  Apparently it is now in the dictionary though (unlike "Aston"), albeit highlighted as a trademark.

So in theory the Times tweeter should get a lawyer's letter insisting they spell it with a capital C at least.

It's lower case in Google's dictionary: Chyron --> chyron
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Blue Jam on September 14, 2021, 10:17:45 AM
It's amazing they thought any sort of new TV channel was a good idea. "Hey, you know what are hot right now? Channels!"

That line actually could have come from an episode of Succession.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 14, 2021, 01:29:12 PM
It's amazing they thought any sort of new TV channel was a good idea. "Hey, you know what are hot right now? Channels!"

Churn that shit out for 50p a whack then. All that money spunked to be not as successful as Jonathan Pie.

I'm presuming a lot of.the success from their Biden monologue was in the US. They should
all sod off to America and join Fox News. Would.feel sorry for the Americans though.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: chveik on September 14, 2021, 01:43:23 PM
not long before they run out of money i assume
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 16, 2021, 08:23:00 PM
Would you buy a used channel from this man?

(https://i.imgur.com/6Oi1DXR.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: pigamus on September 16, 2021, 08:30:15 PM
So Murdoch's starting his own channel, I see. Presumably that's where Brillo's going.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/sep/16/piers-morgan-hired-to-launch-rupert-murdoch-tv-station-talktv
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Ambient Sheep on September 17, 2021, 12:40:08 AM
Thread about that here (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,89477.0.html).


Meanwhile:
BBC News: Andrew Neil: I was minority of one at GB News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58591909)

Some interesting quotes in there.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: idunnosomename on September 17, 2021, 12:45:50 AM
oh so it turns out Andrew Neil is a fucking old pink idiot with no fucking talent beyond the fact he is independently wealthy from his time editing the Sunday Times 1983-94 under Murdoch, and that he's built like a immersion heater. incredible
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 17, 2021, 02:46:29 AM
He’s one of these media berks that seems to think he is untouchable and owed an eye-watering salary, and because Fleet Street is run by similarly unintelligent berks he keeps getting what he wants.

In a way, it is very impressive. Imagine I thought I was an excellent formula 1 driver, and despite years of being manifestly unable to pilot a car to tesco and back I managed to hoodwink Renault into giving me a huge wedge of cash. Then they found me out and cut me loose, but by then I’d conned those credulous dipshits at Ferrari etc etc. By the time they’d all had their wallets inspected, I announced I was 70 and therefore retiring from the sport.

This is how a lot of politics and consulting appears to me.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 17, 2021, 02:58:10 AM
Cunt fails upwards innit.
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Post by: chveik on September 17, 2021, 03:13:39 AM
i'm guessing the ideological disagreements where that he didn't expect it to be such a failure
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Post by: Midas on September 17, 2021, 03:34:36 AM
Maybe Neil has been Murdoch's stooge all along. Or maybe Neil is just a pathetic insect cowering in the shadow of an ill-thought-out Faustian bargain (and Murdoch's an irrelevant fly banging on a window). There's something sour about all of this.
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Post by: Midas on September 17, 2021, 03:38:01 AM
Either way, a big enough bug zapper could sort everything out.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on September 17, 2021, 06:46:30 AM
He’s one of these media berks that seems to think he is untouchable and owed an eye-watering salary, and because Fleet Street is run by similarly unintelligent berks he keeps getting what he wants.

In a way, it is very impressive. Imagine I thought I was an excellent formula 1 driver, and despite years of being manifestly unable to pilot a car to tesco and back I managed to hoodwink Renault into giving me a huge wedge of cash. Then they found me out and cut me loose, but by then I’d conned those credulous dipshits at Ferrari etc etc. By the time they’d all had their wallets inspected, I announced I was 70 and therefore retiring from the sport.

This is how a lot of politics and consulting appears to me.

Whoah, Kimi Raikkonen posts on CaB!
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Post by: lipsink on September 17, 2021, 07:41:55 AM
You could see the panic in Andrew Neil's eyes during those clips. Out of his comfort zone and not able to control things. Fucking slippery cunt avoiding answering the questions either.
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Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 17, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
Neil being clapped back at on Question Time: https://twitter.com/KeejayOV3/status/1438625845271306243
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Post by: idunnosomename on September 17, 2021, 04:47:52 PM
never forget in the Sunday Times Neil published a lot of denialism on the AIDS epidemic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Neil#HIV/AIDS

More than just a stooge, imo, but utter cunt
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 23, 2021, 10:12:01 AM
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After weeks of talks with @GBNEWS, resulting in exit settlement, the channel then broke it by briefing Mail on Sunday with load of smears/lies then unilaterally cancelling exit deal. Leaving me free to do, say whatever I want + never again be on GBNews. Couldn’t be happier.

https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1440797569836146690

(https://i.imgur.com/JhDqXaU.png)

it's a shit business![1]
 1. Or at least it would be if he hadn't already walked on to either Question Time or Newsnight
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Post by: The Culture Bunker on September 23, 2021, 10:23:31 AM
Is it likely Neil will now breeze onto Murdoch's new enterprise, or try for the security blanket of the BBC again?
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 23, 2021, 10:26:21 AM
yes.
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Post by: Uncle TechTip on September 23, 2021, 10:41:04 AM
Egos the size of Neil's and Morgan's cannot surely exist in the same space.
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Post by: jobotic on September 23, 2021, 10:43:44 AM
They will if Murdoch tells them to.
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Post by: steveh on September 23, 2021, 11:10:12 AM
Amazingly GB News' investors are about to put a load more cash into the station according to the FT. I know they've said before that they're doing it for 'cultural reasons' rather than to make money but they must have watched the channel and seen the ratings and the response it's getting.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 23, 2021, 11:11:36 AM
Amazingly GB News' investors are about to put a load more cash into the station according to the FT. I know they've said before that they're doing it for 'cultural reasons' rather than to make money but they must have watched the channel and seen the ratings and the response it's getting.

Might've gotten shook because it looks like Murdoch's ploughing ahead with his news channel?
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Post by: idunnosomename on September 23, 2021, 11:25:52 AM
lol Andrew Neil's pompousity. Man is an absolute orb.
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 23, 2021, 12:11:14 PM
Is it likely Neil will now breeze onto Murdoch's new enterprise, or try for the security blanket of the BBC again?

I mean in a rational world there's no way he should work at the BBC again so I assume he'll be back by the new year.
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Post by: Mr Farenheit on September 23, 2021, 12:41:13 PM
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After weeks of talks with @GBNEWS, resulting in exit settlement, the channel then broke it by briefing Mail on Sunday with load of smears/lies then unilaterally cancelling exit deal. Leaving me free to do, say whatever I want + never again be on GBNews. Couldn’t be happier.

Happy as Larry
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 23, 2021, 12:42:54 PM
Happy as Leisure Suit Larry

(https://www.private-eye.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/andrew-neil.jpg)
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Post by: olliebean on September 23, 2021, 08:52:52 PM
Amazingly GB News' investors are about to put a load more cash into the station according to the FT. I know they've said before that they're doing it for 'cultural reasons' rather than to make money but they must have watched the channel and seen the ratings and the response it's getting.

Is it some sort of tax dodge?
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on September 24, 2021, 12:46:39 AM
Andrew Neil should just interview Ben Shapiro forever. I watch it every now and then when I need cheering up.
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Post by: holyzombiejesus on September 24, 2021, 11:13:38 PM
Ceaseless feasts of schadenfreude...

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He’s the titan of British broadcasting, an unflappable presenter who, with 25 years of broadcasting under his belt, stood as the BBC’s leading political interviewer with his forensic, fearless grilling of more party leaders than most contestants on the reality TV show Love Island have had dates.

He’s been on IRA and jihadi hit lists, and is also – as I can attest – a formidable boss.

So it comes as a surprise when Andrew Neil starts to cry and confesses to me how he nearly succumbed to mental collapse, broken by his experience at GB News.

‘I came close to a breakdown,’ he confesses, tears falling.


Now, Andrew is something of a Marmite figure. People like or loathe him. I was editor of The Scotsman when he was publisher of the group and there were certainly times I’d have preferred jam on my toast.

Nonetheless, he is a media giant – arguably the most talented broadcaster of his generation – who garners respect. He’s also funny with a formidable intellect and a generous spirit. To see this ‘thumper’ (his word) of a man crumble in front of me is deeply saddening.

‘It was terrible, it was terrible,’ he says as I hug him. He’s recalling the moment when, at the end of his first week as much-vaunted lead interviewer and chairman of newly-launched GB News, he decided he couldn’t go on.

It followed a serious of technical disasters and glitches that had made the station a laughing stock and left him ‘in despair’.

His reputation was in the hands of, as he sees it, amateurs who could destroy his 48-year record of unrivalled success built on rigour and professionalism.

On launch night, the cameras and sound were out of sync, a microphone failed, and as for the lighting... well, it was so poor that those watching throughout the country struggled to see much of what was happening. But it didn’t stop there.

As he puts it: ‘It just went from bad to worse. There was one day we spent the whole day preparing the programme and fixing up a number of interviews down the line [meaning remotely, rather than in the studio] because that was the business model.

‘At one minute to eight [his flagship show was broadcast live at 8pm] I sat down, earpiece in, microphone on, only to be told by the director we had no external communications, so I had no guests.’

Left with an hour of live television to fill without a single interviewee, his heart began to race and did not stop for a full 45 minutes after the show. ‘I was in despair,’ he says. ‘Unlike other shows where there are two anchors so they can talk rubbish to each other, I was on my own. We had to scour the newsroom and get Tom Harwood [the channel’s political correspondent] and Liam Halligan [its economics and business editor] to come in so I had someone to talk to.

‘Live TV is stressful at the best of times but not knowing whether or not the technology would work…’ He shakes his head. ‘It just got worse and worse. At one stage, we were waiting to go on air and the whole system went down. It had to be rebooted and we only managed it with 15 seconds to spare.

‘That stress was just huge. It meant you couldn’t think about the journalism. You were just constantly wondering: “Will we make it through the hour?” By the end of that first week, I knew I had to get out. It was really beginning to affect my health. I wasn’t sleeping. I was waking up at two or three in the morning.

‘I had a constant knot in my stomach. When I did wake up I’d feel fine, then remember all the problems I had with GB News and this knot would come and wouldn’t leave me for the whole day.’ That weekend he and his wife Susan flew to Jersey and stayed there for two nights in a quayside hotel.

‘We planned what we were going to do. We said “this is not going to get better, this is terrible”.’ He pauses and his chins tremble [I put that bit in]. ‘So we decided I had to get…’ He takes several deep breaths.

‘So, that Jersey weekend we decided I would go back for four more nights. I couldn’t leave them in the lurch. I would do four more nights and then I was gone, whatever the consequences were on contracts. I knew if it went to court I’d need to build a fighting fund. Susan and I talked about that and decided maybe the best way of financing it would be selling my apartment in New York.’

Andrew, 72, has walked away from a £4million contract but couldn’t give a jot. ‘It was a big decision but I frankly couldn’t care if it was £40million,’ he says. ‘This would have killed me if I’d carried on.’

Today, Andrew is finally able to give his astonishing account of the behind-the-scenes shambles at this hapless news channel after a legally-binding separation agreement was, in effect, ripped up by lawyers acting for GB News following his comments on Question Time ten days ago. He now reveals, in this exclusive interview, that he had warned the board time and again that GB News was not ready for launch – and has numerous emails to support this.

‘Every time I raised red flags with the board they were polite, they listened but they always sided with the chief executive [former Sky News Australia chief Angelos Frangopoulos]. I was in a minority of one. I felt like the Lone Ranger on so many things without even Tonto to keep me company,’ he says.

Talking about the last eight months since he began operating as chairman of GB News, having quit as the BBC’s lead political presenter, one thing is clear. Andrew does not know how he would have survived without Susan’s support.

A Swedish engineer with the looks of a film star, she is 20 years his junior but his equal in every sense. They married six years ago after a romance of several years and share a life together at their home in the south of France. ‘She has been a rock,’ he says. ‘For big chunks of my life I’ve been just on my own. That would have been worse. It would have been terrible.’ To see his distress, one can only agree. Following that weekend in Jersey they returned to London for four days for Andrew to continue broadcasting his show for a second week.

‘All start-ups are fraught,’ he says. ‘Half the people are willing you to fail and the other half just want to get a good story from all the cock-ups... although I have to say the launch of Sky News went pretty smoothly.’

Andrew, as chairman of Sky from 1988, oversaw that project with Rupert Murdoch. ‘At Sky, we’d had three weeks of rehearsals before going on air. GB News barely had a week and there were so many hitches with the technology. The CEO wanted to get on air, even if it was ramshackle, and then improve things.

‘At one stage, about a month before the launch, he said: “We’re launching a boat that’s only half-built. We’ll build the rest when it’s floating.” I said: “I’m not a shipbuilder, but it seems to me if you launch a boat that’s only half-built it will sink.” I’d warned them we couldn’t only have one studio because that means nobody can rehearse. You need two studios to do the proper handover; in news channels you never say goodbye, you hand over to the incoming presenter in the other studio with a bit of happy talk so it’s seamless.

‘We didn’t just launch with only one studio. We launched with one studio and most of it didn’t work.’

Andrew rolls his eyes but now there is a gleam of humour. Indeed, the catalogue of ‘cock-ups’ would be downright funny if they hadn’t made a mockery of those who worked for GB News.

‘The studio had four areas. One was the digital wall, another was the breakfast table area – which I thought looked rather good – the other was the sofa, which looked like a Habitat sofa we’d picked up off a skip in Notting Hill, and the fourth, which was where I did my show from, was so black I had to take my jacket off and wear a white shirt.

‘It actually looked like I was Kim Jong Un in a bunker about to launch a nuclear attack on San Francisco. When it came to the launch, the digital wall wasn’t ready and they discovered they couldn’t light or get the sound and audio right for the kitchen table... so we were then reduced to the Habitat sofa found on a skip and the North Korean nuclear bunker.

‘We only had a floor manager because I’d insisted. We were meant to operate our own autocue and do our own make-up. It makes student TV look well-financed.

‘We were also broadcasting from the most diverse, multi-ethnic city in the world and we couldn’t light people of colour. In the early days you could barely see them for our backdrop. They faded into the background because we didn’t light them properly.’ He adds: ‘I raised the issue that the reputational damage we were risking was monumental. I said it was a disaster. There were endless things and, by the second week, things weren’t getting any better. Some things were getting worse. It was terrible. I came off air one night and I looked straight at him.’

Such is Andrew’s enmity towards the channel’s CEO, he can’t bring himself to mention Frangopoulos by name. Instead, he has a nickname for him: Triple G, the Great Greek God.

‘I said: “This is a disaster and it’s my reputation that’s on the line.” That’s what really did me in the end – and it’s my own stupidity for getting into it – the fact that everybody saw my face on the tin. It was Andrew Neil’s channel. That’s what everyone talked about.

‘What nobody knew was [before the June launch] in March, April, May... my face was still on the tin but I had no say over what was going into the tin. That’s what was unsustainable for me.’

Andrew’s contract required 40 weeks of broadcasting a year. But he left the studio for a final time after the second week of shows on June 24.

Two directors, conscious of the PR disaster should their lead presenter and chairman walk out after just two weeks, suggested he take July and August off. They assured him that by September the glitches would have been ironed out. Andrew agreed.

‘I came off air at 9pm. Susan turned up with my driver. We went straight to the airport and were in the air before 10pm. We had a glass of champagne. It was like a mercy flight or a CIA extraction flight to get away.’ He chuckles briefly, but his palpable despair soon returns.

‘The reason I am quite emotional is that I’m angry. I thought after ten years at the Economist, 11 years at The Sunday Times, the launch of Sky Television and Sky News, ten years as publisher of The Scotsman and, for 25 years working to become the BBC’s premier interviewer, GB News would be the final big career move and then I’d pack it all in.

‘I am angry. I’m also quite unforgiving of this chief executive and the board. They are the ones who put me through this – the disrespect.

‘Why pay me all that money? Why make me chairman? Why make me lead presenter and then just not listen? So I’m angry that what should have been my last big media gig – which, if we’d made it work, could have been great – turned out to be the worst eight months of my career, the worst by far, from early January to last weekend when I finally got free of everything. Don’t forget, I’ve been on the IRA hit list twice. I’ve had special protection – anti-terrorist forces outside my house. I’ve been on the jihadists’ hit list. This feels worse.’

Andrew was first approached to be chairman and lead presenter of GB News little more than a year ago. Frangopoulos and an editorial director – who has since left the channel, and does not wish to be associated with it – went to his house in the south of France where they proposed a news channel along American lines. Instead of rolling 24-hour news, the headlines would be discussed in informed debates. They drank Whispering Angel rosé over lunch as they shared their vision for the channel.

‘They made it clear from the start that we would never go the way of Fox News, never have conspiracy theories, never have untruths, never do “fake news”... and if we got things wrong we’d put it right because we’d made a mistake, not because we intentionally lie.

‘News UK were trying to hire me at the time too, as lead presenter, and actually offered more money. But GB News wanted me to be chairman too, so that’s what clinched it for me.’

GB News, which was founded by businessmen Andrew Cole and Mark Schneider, took until the end of the year to raise the necessary funds, so Andrew finally signed his four-year contract in the third week of December. He took up his role in January.

As chairman, Andrew was the eighth board member. Their meetings, held on Zoom owing to Covid, began a few weeks into the New Year. ‘Looking back on my notes it suddenly became clear in February that this CEO was just going ahead and doing his own thing – taking big decisions when the consultation with me was either cursory or didn’t exist.

‘I’ll give you one example where I wasn’t even consulted: the appointment of the political editor Darren McCaffrey. He just went ahead and did it and I read about it in the newspaper. He even appointed my researcher without telling me.

‘Looking back, I wish I’d just got out then. The reason I didn’t resign was there were people who’d joined GB News – people who were friends – who knew my track record as a journalist and knew if I was there it wouldn’t be Fox News.’

Today he is hugely worried that the channel he held so much hope for might go down that path. ‘Look at the direction of travel. They bring in these shock jocks in the morning and evening – Mark Dolan and this Patrick Christys. You’ve already got Dan Wootton.

‘One of the great ideas before I left was we do trial by television on the guilty men of Brexit – those who tried to stop it, like Lord Adonis and Nick Clegg.

‘I said: “Why do you want to do that? You won the referendum.” We’re out. But let me remind you that was the most miserable period of modern British politics. We should be looking forward to the 2020s. Another suggestion was that we should put secret cameras in classrooms to show how Left-wing the teachers were. I said: “That’s a really good idea but I think you should take charge of that yourself, and I promise you that after you get in hot water for breaking about five different laws – including filming minors – come back and talk to me.” ’


Understandably, Andrew demanded decision-making powers as an executive chairman should he return for a September relaunch. ‘I said: “I need to be a part of this. I have lent my name to a botched launch over which I have almost no control.” They just knocked me back.’

The legal ‘arm-wrestling’ continued over a ‘miserable’ summer. ‘It was terrible, terrible,’ says Andrew. ‘They wanted me to stand down as chairman but continue as their flagship presenter. I said: “I’m only prepared to do that on a four-month contract until I see the lie of the land because if I’m no longer chairman I have no power to stop you becoming Fox News.” In the end that’s where it broke down.’

The two sides went to mediation on September 10 and came to an exit agreement. Andrew agreed to two Q&As a week until January, a non-compete clause, and a no-disparagement clause.

‘I offered to do it for nothing. I just wanted out,’ he says. ‘The CEO then issued an email to all staff claiming that on all issues of direction, tone, launch date and programming presentation – everything – I’d been entirely supportive. Not only was it not true, it was a breach of our exit agreement. So, on Question Time last week, I knew Fiona [Bruce] was going to mention it. I thought I was free to say, contrary to what the CEO had said in his email, that there had been a number of disagreements between me, him and the board... so it was best for me to get out.

‘I thought I was quite moderate. I chose my words very carefully. They briefed [the Daily Mail’s sister paper] the Mail on Sunday, that they were thinking of sacking me, although the email was never issued. I wish they had fired me. It would have freed me from a miserable summer.’

When contacted by the Daily Mail, a spokesman for GB News did not agree with all of Andrew’s account.

They said: ‘At no point did Andrew raise concerns of the editorial direction of GB News moving to the right. As with all companies, decision-making rests with the board, and GB News is no different. As a member of the board, Andrew had the same rights and abilities to raise concerns, and he was privy to all decisions.

‘The launch date of GB News was set to accommodate Andrew’s own travel plans. Indeed, contrary to management’s wishes, it was Andrew who insisted the launch date be announced, failing which he refused to travel to London for it. At no time did Andrew ask to be executive chairman and at no point was this offered to him. He was always a non-executive chairman.’ They added he had ‘full say over programming decisions and talent’.

They continued: ‘The board allowed Andrew time off over the summer to recharge his batteries. He subsequently asked to leave and the board agreed to this request. The terms of his departure were properly negotiated and documented, with Andrew taking legal advice throughout.

‘The fact that he has chosen to ignore these terms and make his departure unnecessarily contentious and public is a decision he will have to live with.’

Andrew now says he’d be quite happy not to see a TV studio this side of Christmas. Instead, he intends to take Susan for a long weekend in Florence before going to New York.

‘We’ll have the summer we never had,’ he says.

‘I do feel angry though about what they’ve done to a beautiful dream. This was a vision that might have worked. But if you watch the constant themes that come through again and again from the shock jockeys on GB News, the perception is “we hate migrants, we hate the NHS, we hate lockdown and we hate Meghan Markle”.’ He looks genuinely saddened.

‘When I do look back, the one thing I will say is I wish I’d been more publicly demonstrative about not launching on June 13.

‘It wouldn’t have stopped the launch and it wouldn’t have stopped the s***-show that followed, but I would have been on the record saying: “Don’t do this. It’s going to be a disaster.”

From the daily mail, won't bother with a link
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Post by: Cold Meat Platter on September 24, 2021, 11:39:05 PM
Holy fuck that's amazing. It's like an extended definition of hubris.
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Post by: oustropique on September 25, 2021, 12:13:35 AM
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Don’t forget, I’ve been on the IRA hit list twice. I’ve had special protection – anti-terrorist forces outside my house. I’ve been on the jihadists’ hit list. This feels worse.’

Burst out laughing.
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Post by: idunnosomename on September 25, 2021, 12:34:18 AM
lol what a complete fucking clown. roll into grave you stupid old cunt
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Post by: Uncle TechTip on September 25, 2021, 12:48:54 AM
Wot a snowflake. That's what they want the libs to say isn't it? He's been talking to Gove on how to stir up a reaction.
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Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on September 25, 2021, 01:51:29 AM
Really. REALLY. We're supposed to believe that Andrew Neil, with all his experience in broadcast news, had no fucking idea that "GB News" was always going to be reactionary right-wing trash from the beginning. Fuck off. He was enticed by the idea of having total control over a news channel and then walked away when he realised he wasn't gonna get that and also the production values were total shit. He's only going on about how he never wanted Foxhunt News, never at all, because he's angling for another job.
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Post by: chveik on September 25, 2021, 01:56:49 AM
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Susan and I talked about that and decided maybe the best way of financing it would be selling my apartment in New York

awful bit of business
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Post by: Wonderful Butternut on September 25, 2021, 02:06:21 AM
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Andrew rolls his eyes but now there is a gleam of humour. Indeed, the catalogue of ‘cock-ups’ would be downright funny if they hadn’t made a mockery of those who worked for GB News.

Personally, I think that just makes them funnier. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke, could it?
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Post by: Uncle TechTip on September 25, 2021, 02:35:01 AM
"I had to fill for ten minutes." You're a fucking TV presenter.
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Post by: buttgammon on September 25, 2021, 08:39:45 AM
Andrew Neil is proof that the right's dominance of the British media is nothing to do with their propagandists having any skill, but merely the brute force of having so much money to throw at it.
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Post by: bomb_dog on September 25, 2021, 09:19:00 AM
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The acrimonious fallout from GB News continues to amuse, and we very much enjoyed the detail that one of the crunch points was Andrew Neil pissily complaining that the plane the channel had put on for him to fly from his home in the South of France to London was "the smallest private jet in the world."

Andrew should count his blessings. Not everyone at GB News gets treated to such luxury. In-house legend has it that instead of arranging cabs for producers and crew who work the unsocial shifts, they've got a single minivan that winds its way through London dropping off and picking up workers like an airport shuttle.

A service that staff refer to as the 'GB Cruise'.
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Post by: steveh on September 25, 2021, 09:37:40 AM
Is it some sort of tax dodge?

There's sure to be some 'tax management' going on but it's more extremely wealthy people with a political axe to grind for whom the costs are chump change.

Worth noting that the two hedge fund guys, Paul Marshall (LibDem Orange Book author, Leave campaign and Conservative funder, Unherd main investor and ex-Mumford bloke's dad) and Christopher Chandler (Vote Leave funder, founder of Legatum Institute which has a lot of influence with current govt) both seem very happy to take the side of the CEO Angelos Frangopoulos in the channel's move to anti-woke outrage rather than Andrew Neil's. They're paying for what they want.
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Post by: jobotic on September 25, 2021, 09:51:16 AM
yeah, i'm sure they'd like the production quality to be better but as long as their revolting message is getting out there it's fine.

Not just GB News either - I doubt Koch pays Brendan O'Niell to write his shit because he thinks he's a talented writer.
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 25, 2021, 02:43:03 PM
Really. REALLY. We're supposed to believe that Andrew Neil, with all his experience in broadcast news, had no fucking idea that "GB News" was always going to be reactionary right-wing trash from the beginning. Fuck off. He was enticed by the idea of having total control over a news channel and then walked away when he realised he wasn't gonna get that and also the production values were total shit. He's only going on about how he never wanted Foxhunt News, never at all, because he's angling for another job.

Yeah the one thing I don't think long term Murdoch lieutenant Andrew Neil is is naive, but he's trying to make us think he is!
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 25, 2021, 02:44:41 PM
He is however, quite fragile and thin-skinned it would seem.
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 25, 2021, 02:53:19 PM
I think he's also stung by discovering that BBC-level staffing and BBC quality tech and BBC quality engineers cost a lot of money. After they stumped up the cash to get the thing on air it turned out these rightwing ghouls didn't, in fact, have the money to take on six producers or whatever it was to do Neil's research like he had at the BBC. Pity.
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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 25, 2021, 03:01:30 PM
I assumed, being the talent, they'd massively underestimated how many unseen 'little people' there are behind the scenes doing stuff, they may well have mostly only interacted with producers and runners, but for things like the false names - most proper operations will have given some  admin staff the thankless task of screening that sort of thing prior to the presenters reading it.
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Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 25, 2021, 03:05:21 PM
Very probable that because of his twenty different jobs, Neil showed up at the BBC half an hour before he went on air and was out of the door minutes after he finished so had no real idea of what actually went in to making any of the programs he worked on.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on September 25, 2021, 06:18:39 PM
There's sure to be some 'tax management' going on but it's more extremely wealthy people with a political axe to grind for whom the costs are chump change.

Worth noting that the two hedge fund guys, Paul Marshall (LibDem Orange Book author, Leave campaign and Conservative funder, Unherd main investor and ex-Mumford bloke's dad)
This is what I mean. Andrew Neil is a journalist. That, that bit in bold, that should've been his first fucking clue that GB News was going to be sensationalist, jingoistic propaganda. And we're expected to believe he just blindly took the job, never looked into who was funding it, never even did a cursory google of their names.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: monkfromhavana on September 25, 2021, 06:55:15 PM
He didn't give a fuck about any of that, he'd probably have been happy to spout all that crap (though probably more carefully worded than other people on the channel), he just left cos they were inept and he was being laughed at. Also, he was aware that the people laughing were correct, so couldn't even pass it off as "Woke-Marxists". He should be reminded of his stint on GB News at every future opportunity.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: The Culture Bunker on September 25, 2021, 07:12:48 PM
The word 'hubris' has been used and that's a lot of it for me: Neil has had years of having his arse kissed, hailed as one of the country's leading journalists, a giant in the field etc etc. I do think he thought he could just roll up to GB News and the viewers would flood in, he'd be hailed as a pioneer - "crusading a new age of independent journalism" - all that shit. If he looked deep inside his soul, he'd realise his success has been built on the backs of numerous never-known staff members, but as seen, he just blames everyone else. I've no doubt at some point there will be a damage-limitation book that lays out the causes of GB News' failures, and Neil will be ever-so-keen to give it plenty of "I told them this, I warned them that, but they didn't listen. If only they had..."
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 25, 2021, 07:14:48 PM
Also, he was aware that the people laughing were correct, so couldn't even pass it off as "Woke-Marxists".

Yes also a crucial point. It must really hurt when your critics are right and you know they're right because you agree.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: imitationleather on September 26, 2021, 11:12:50 AM
My brain is refusing to generate a mental image of Andrew Neil crying.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Mr Trumpet on September 26, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
Hot, greasy tears
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 26, 2021, 01:39:39 PM
Hot, greasy tears

the consistency of pork pie jelly
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on September 27, 2021, 12:06:31 PM
My brain is refusing to generate a mental image of Andrew Neil crying.

It’s 2021. Why not let an AI do it instead?

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ai.protogenes/art/a4935f7d-1f81-11ec-b276-159b1ca4b346.png)
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: kalowski on September 27, 2021, 07:57:17 PM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ai.protogenes/art/a4935f7d-1f81-11ec-b276-159b1ca4b346.png)
Close up of Kendra Lust has let itself go.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 29, 2021, 03:28:08 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAZ0xmjVcA0V4st?format=jpg&name=medium)

I can't be bothered even finding the article, it's never living up to this.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: icehaven on September 29, 2021, 03:40:03 PM
I haven't seen EastEnders in about 15 years, but what exactly does ''embracing wokeism'' in this context mean? There's been plenty of non-white characters and gay characters in it since the 1980s and I wasn't aware of it being a hotbed of right wing comment and humour that's suddenly been silenced either. 
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 29, 2021, 03:43:54 PM
“It’s almost like the Taliban” haha fuckin hell
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 29, 2021, 03:44:42 PM
I haven't seen EastEnders in about 15 years, but what exactly does ''embracing wokeism'' in this context mean? There's been plenty of non-white characters and gay characters in it since the 1980s and I wasn't aware of it being a hotbed of right wing comment and humour that's been silenced either.

It almost certainly means 'they won't give me a job on there again'.

It looks like he's making ends meet as a Peter Stringfellow impersonator.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: icehaven on September 29, 2021, 04:41:39 PM
If he can't get work in some capers about cockney gangsters in the Costa del Crime looking like that then there's no hope for him.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 29, 2021, 04:49:18 PM
“What is it like working on a soap opera that is broadcasted by the BBC?”

“It is almost like the Taliban”

“Well that seems a perfectly reasonable take and definitely the kind of interviewee (and opinion!) we should have on our channel”
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: gilbertharding on September 29, 2021, 04:55:22 PM
What's 'like the Taliban'?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIOo-VMXsAUjXr4.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERiCYfyXkAAL58m?format=png&name=900x900)

Honestly, these utter, utter cunts.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on September 29, 2021, 05:06:02 PM
Awight Ma?

Not this time son. We've gorn woke. Int that right Ethel?

Where's my Willy?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 29, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
Just noticed that he's got that trump/farage thing where his mouth looks like his eyes.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on September 29, 2021, 06:37:41 PM
'They won't let me murder old geezers in their own flats any more, in case a Pakistani sees it...It's political correctness gone mad, Stew...they've banned Christmas now.'
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on September 29, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
I must have imagined all the black and Asian characters I saw on Eastenders in the ‘90s. Not to mention Tony and Simon. And there are women walking around with their faces uncovered, so they missed the memo about it being the Taliban. Besides, i thought the far right liked the Taliban? Or are they too brown?
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: kalowski on September 29, 2021, 08:05:46 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAZ0xmjVcA0V4st?format=jpg&name=medium)

Robert De Niro has let himself go.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: jobotic on September 29, 2021, 08:10:31 PM
...on GB News


New page doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on September 29, 2021, 09:34:44 PM
Let me guess, he’s run out of money after flouncing from EastEnders six years ago because they were planning to make Nick Cotton gay, and they killed him off properly so he has no route back?

Sad. So hilariously sad.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: olliebean on September 29, 2021, 09:44:32 PM
His story is, he just suggested to them, don't make Nick Cotton gay, it doesn't fit the character, and they immediately decided to write him out. I suspect the conversation in which he suggested this was somewhat more heated than he describes it.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 29, 2021, 10:09:25 PM
Looks exactly as you would expect at this stage of life. A total gimp swanning between resorts on the med and shit bars at golf clubs at home living off autographs, selfies and free drinks.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: mothman on September 29, 2021, 10:19:44 PM
^ Toujours, Épaules?-Ventre! avec le mot juste.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 30, 2021, 11:07:23 AM
Slightly off-topic, but John Altman's last film acting job was playing a talking football in Sphere of Fear 2 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10252406/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6), sequel to Sphere of Fear in which (https://www.devon-cornwall-film.co.uk/2019/12/31/sphere-of-fear-2-the-guerrilla-hit-bounces-back/) "A ball possessed by a demon causes murderous havoc around Plymouth." Before that he had a supporting role in British crime film Lucas and Albert (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9246830/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_7), which has the tag line "Double act with gonads". So it would not be inaccurate to say his career is a load of balls.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Kankurette on September 30, 2021, 01:15:53 PM
I have to admit, the idea of a cursed football does sound pretty funny.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: daimoniac on September 30, 2021, 02:15:08 PM
Sphere of fear was part of a group watch I contributed to not so long ago. its bloody hilarious. absolute crap but totally bonkers. not seen the sequel yet.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on September 30, 2021, 04:32:01 PM
Let me guess, he’s run out of money after flouncing from EastEnders six years ago because they were planning to make Nick Cotton gay, and they killed him off properly so he has no route back?

No, he said they were planning for Nick to go gay with Lofty, who left the show in 1988. He wasn't 'written out' because of this, Nick was never going to be a permanent resident, the nature of his character meant he would come and go, as he did many times over 30 years. And he's right, if this was a seriously mooted plotline it would have been the most mystifyingly preposterous hook-up in EastEnders history, which is saying something. I've often wondered if EE writers employ a Sex Hat, out of which they pick two character names at random and contrive to make them fornicate.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Famous Mortimer on September 30, 2021, 05:13:27 PM
Slightly off-topic, but John Altman's last film acting job was playing a talking football in Sphere of Fear 2 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10252406/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_6)
2 hours 14 minutes! That's got to be a challenging watch.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: steveh on October 08, 2021, 02:21:50 PM
Andrew Neil's been talking again:

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I ask him if there is a big enough mainstream rightwing audience to support a channel such as GB News, or whether it must inevitably drift towards conspiracy theory and Ukip territory.

“It’s clearly a problem because broadcasting lends itself to loud voices,” he says. “And, you know, voices from the centre left or the centre right are not that loud. And there’s more drama and viewer satisfaction in louder voices. One of the reasons it was always uncomfortable for me was that I have said publicly there would be no fake news. There would be no conspiracy theories.

“Two things happen. You do get a core audience of true believers. But that stops you reaching a wider audience because you’re just preaching to the believers. And I do think it gives you problems with advertisers . . . particularly in this sort of woke age when corporate executives are very keen not to be on the wrong end of Twitter or social media, I think, the more outlandish you are, the more difficult it is getting advertising.”

Neil walked out after eight shows. He was supposed to return in September but never did, apart from briefly as a guest on Nigel Farage’s show, now in his slot. He says he had drawn up a way to make the autumn relaunch work with Farage, but his demands for a meaningful editorial role, his red line for a return, were rejected, so he didn’t.

He’s fairly confident that the channel will not go down in the near term. “The investors, with the exception of Discovery [Inc, which has a significant stake], they all love Nigel Farage, they regard him as huge, a big, big character. They believe it will succeed and they’re ideologically driven.” The problem is editorial. “Its big challenge will be relevance, and just to stay on the radar.”


More worryingly...

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Neil reveals his love of the crime series Gomorrah, which he claims has opened his eyes to Italian rap music. “The best rap music there is.” Are you an expert on Italian rap music? “I am an expert in Italian rap music.”

https://www.ft.com/content/c1f01097-924c-4132-a31d-466448e02256
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on October 08, 2021, 05:40:11 PM
“I am an expert in Italian rap music” says Andrew Neil

The intro headlines from Brass Eye have let themselves go.
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Bigfella on October 09, 2021, 10:40:25 AM
Spotted last night: Tony Parsons.  Remember him?  Bit of a comedown in status for him, he used to always do the late night BBC2 culture debate thingies.  Recently the remarkably vile David Starkey popped up, all messianic about capitalism, colonialism and 'modernity'.  He approved of slavery and mocked Greta Thunberg into the bargain.  Not out to make friends, is he!
Title: Re: More info about GB News shows.
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on October 09, 2021, 04:28:02 PM
Tony Parsehole as Viz calls him.