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Title: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 29, 2021, 09:48:55 PM
BBC News - Bafta suspends Noel Clarke over harassment claims
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56937479

He's denying any wrongdoing, yet apparently 20 women have come forward
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on April 29, 2021, 09:52:30 PM
20 is a bit dubious.

If it were 21 women i'd be more inclined to believe it tbh.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on April 29, 2021, 09:53:08 PM
I wonder if, when he goes into Starbucks and orders a coffee, they ask him his name to write on the cup, he says "Noel Clarke" and they write CARKE?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Wonderful Butternut on April 29, 2021, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on April 29, 2021, 09:52:30 PM
20 is a bit dubious.

If it were 21 women i'd be more inclined to believe it tbh.

Making it up for fabulous cash prizes, no doubt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 29, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
Or simply "BEAST"
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 29, 2021, 09:59:06 PM
Pest...p...p...p...pest...pest

(http://reallylatereviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/5406636750_1b6fd9cccb.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: M-CORP on April 29, 2021, 10:22:32 PM
Just logged on to say 'Mickey the idiot' and then fuck off again.

Pretty pissed off with this though - I always say 'innocent until proven guilty' - this is a newspaper article after all... but 20 accusers? And the article's very detailed. Plus the lawyer defences are exactly the sort of thing you'd expect to hear if there was stuff to hide. This doesn't sound very encouraging. Seriously, one of the characters from Doctor Who that I loved as a child. I've had better ends to the day.

Anyway, I shall now say 'Mickey the idiot' and then fuck off again.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: M-CORP on April 29, 2021, 10:26:48 PM
QuoteBefore hanging up, Clarke said he would apologise to any women he may have made sexually inappropriate remarks about. "If a bunch of people go: he commented on my bum, or he mentioned my tits, it's like– why do you need to take it this far?" said Clarke. "I'll just say sorry to you. Tell me and I'll be like: I'm so sorry. You're right, I said that, I was wrong."

OR EVEN BETTER DON'T DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE EVEN IF IT WAS THE DARK AGE OF 2015 YOU STUPID  FKSFKAS JG. KSJ A





That's how you write forum posts, isn't it? New to this.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on April 29, 2021, 10:39:10 PM
He's the black DLT isn't he?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on April 29, 2021, 10:41:15 PM
One, maybe two accusers and you can go the 'innocent until proven guilty' route, but with 20 it becomes far more difficult. That's a constant pattern of offending. And, yeah, I bet the Guardian's lawyers have been all over this before publishing.

He's worked hard at his career and, professionally at least, he deserved the BAFTA recognition, but he can't blame anyone other than himself that it led directly to this apparently career-ending conclusion.

But it is a little bit staggering to me that this far into the #MeToo era there's still plenty of men who are still getting away with it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
British celebs might finally be getting their #MeToo wave. A lot of people really dodged a bullet in 2017/18. Might be in for some shockers, although we're probably all quite numb at this point.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on April 29, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 10:46:48 PM
British celebs might finally be getting their #MeToo wave. A lot of people really dodged a bullet in 2017/18. Might be in for some shockers, although we're probably all quite numb at this point.

Gary Lineker
Martin Freeman
Rich Herring
Johnny Vegas
and Peter Stringfellow posthumously
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on April 29, 2021, 10:54:35 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/29/actor-noel-clarke-accused-of-groping-harassment-and-bullying-by-20-women

It's pretty damning stuff. A LONG article, too - we're talking Guardian Long Read length. They're not pulling their punches.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Harry Badger on April 29, 2021, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on April 29, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
Martin Freeman

Seriously? The others I'll buy but nice, dull Martin Freeman? Do you mean Morgan?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: badaids on April 29, 2021, 11:07:12 PM

I have a pal who has acted in a couple Noel Clarke things, so I asked her what her experience was: 'A few creepy inappropriate remarks and a generally a bit of a cunt' was her verdict.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Norton Canes on April 29, 2021, 11:20:53 PM
He acted like a bit of a cunt, or...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: neveragain on April 29, 2021, 11:21:41 PM
It's a shame. He'd just learnt how to act.

Edit: ... like a cunt!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on April 29, 2021, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on April 29, 2021, 10:51:26 PM
Gary Lineker
Martin Freeman
Rich Herring
Johnny Vegas
and Peter Stringfellow posthumously
There were a few sly digs at John Barrowman on TV Burp
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on April 29, 2021, 11:29:16 PM
Quote from: Natnar on April 29, 2021, 10:39:10 PM
He's the black DLT isn't he?
BLT ?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thecuriousorange on April 29, 2021, 11:45:35 PM
When I first read about this I mistakenly thought Noel Coward was cancelled.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
Quote from: Mr Banlon on April 29, 2021, 11:28:16 PM
There were a few sly digs at John Barrowman on TV Burp

There's a clip going around of Noel Clarke talking about Barrowman's harassy behaviour on set, all in a light-hearted manner of course https://twitter.com/The66Ramblers/status/1140999393274814464
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: neveragain on April 29, 2021, 11:59:34 PM
Oh God, that's disgusting. Barrowman has always come across as a loud narcissistic guy you'd hate to get stuck with on a night out. Now it seems more sinister.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thecuriousorange on April 30, 2021, 12:08:48 AM
Quote from: neveragain on April 29, 2021, 11:59:34 PM
Oh God, that's disgusting. Barrowman has always come across as a loud narcissistic guy you'd hate to get stuck with on a night out. Now it seems more sinister.

If others come forward, then Barrowman is going the same way as Louis CK
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 12:09:11 AM
Never heard of the cunt
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on April 30, 2021, 12:15:08 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 12:09:11 AM
Never heard of the cunt

You have now.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: the hum on April 30, 2021, 12:22:11 AM
Quote from: M-CORP on April 29, 2021, 10:26:48 PM
OR EVEN BETTER DON'T DO IT IN THE FIRST PLACE EVEN IF IT WAS THE DARK AGE OF 2015 YOU STUPID  FKSFKAS JG. KSJ A

Even the woke Dalek faction are after him.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 12:23:06 AM
Never met him, but there's an episode of Doctor Who where, if you look closely, you can clearly see he is thinking about my penis. I should have complained really, but it was a different time.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on April 30, 2021, 12:24:02 AM
Quote from: Harry Badger on April 29, 2021, 11:05:09 PM
Seriously? The others I'll buy but nice, dull Martin Freeman? Do you mean Morgan?

I've heard rumours that Freeman is a cunt, and it doesn't entirely surprise me. Dull? He doesn't seem dull to me. Nice? He also doesn't seem nice. I've known the type.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: studpuppet on April 30, 2021, 12:25:51 AM
Quote from: Mr Banlon on April 29, 2021, 11:29:16 PM
BLT ?

Black Life (in) Tatters
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Rev+ on April 30, 2021, 12:29:59 AM
For fuck's sake.  Everything about his public demeanor over the years has indicated he'd be the last type of person to face accusations like this.

The nice guy facade, and all that.

It is of course important to remember that he's not been proven guilty of anything.  On the other hand, that many accusations?  Yeah, get fucked Mickey.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 04:20:26 AM
I've always felt he's a bit of a cunt, but mostly because he seemed hyper-career focused whereas I'm not, so probably just jealousy on my part.

A quick Google of his name and the word 'cunt' proves I was right to be suspicious.

Edit:
Quote
Clarke denies he slapped Seltveit's backside and said he did not recall sending her an unsolicited picture of his penis. His lawyers said it was "highly unlikely" that Clarke would have shared such an image.
Yeah that's bad.  Not an outright denial.  He's fucked.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on April 30, 2021, 07:29:28 AM
I thought you the new BBC management appointed by the government were meant to challenge these sort of trendy woke attacks on freedom of speech.

Vote Fox
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 08:24:34 AM
Quote from: Rev+ on April 30, 2021, 12:29:59 AM


It is of course important to remember that he's not been proven guilty of anything.  On the other hand, that many accusations?  Yeah, get fucked Mickey.

The alternative is that these journalists have managed to find 20 women he's pissed off and persuaded them to say he abused them which is very unlikely.

I find it interesting that the article was published barely 90 minutes before Viewpoint aired on ITV. There was a glowing review of Viewpoint in The Guardian praising Noel just a couple of days ago. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/apr/26/viewpoint-review-noel-clarke-excels-in-rear-window-inspired-thriller
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 08:36:58 AM
Let's not sit here and argue about who sent unsolicited pictures of their penis to who!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bernice on April 30, 2021, 08:54:04 AM
QuoteReached for comment, Clarke said he "couldn't recall that particular genital."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 09:00:52 AM
Exactly how many dick pics was he sending that caused him to not remember if he'd done so or not?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on April 30, 2021, 09:07:41 AM
Yeah that line sounds particularly weak.

"Did you send an unwanted picture of your erect penis to that woman?"
"I can't remember doing it... so presumably I did not. All good?"
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Paul Calf on April 30, 2021, 09:09:58 AM
"My lawyers think it unlikely".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Paul Calf on April 30, 2021, 09:11:36 AM
In cases like this, does the defendant's genitalia have to be produced in court to check whether they match the photos? I'm not being flippant here, I genuinely wonder how the pics are verified.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 09:20:02 AM
Quote from: frajer on April 30, 2021, 09:07:41 AM
Yeah that line sounds particularly weak.
To me it's fairly obvious that he did send the pic because otherwise they'd flat out deny it.  If he says 'Nope, didn't do it' and they pull out a picture of his donger he's completely fucked.  This way he can 'deny' it, yet cover his ass if anything turns up.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Endicott on April 30, 2021, 09:21:38 AM
So, suddenly everything on the BBC and in the Guardian is to be treated as gospel now? Righto.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jasha on April 30, 2021, 09:22:20 AM
Edmunds
Clarke
Hope Fielding bucks the trend for cunt Neols
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
If they continue to deny it's theirs i cant see why they couldnt have a medical examination for an expert witness (penis doctor) to testify. And if they refuse to have the examination it doesnt help the case for the defence.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 09:23:00 AM
(http://doctorwhoworlduk.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/mickeyep11c.jpg)

Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
Quote from: Jasha on April 30, 2021, 09:22:20 AM
Edmunds
Clarke
Hope Fielding bucks the trend for cunt Neols

One of the Gallaghers is called Noel. Not sure which one.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 09:32:44 AM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
There's a clip going around of Noel Clarke talking about Barrowman's harassy behaviour on set, all in a light-hearted manner of course https://twitter.com/The66Ramblers/status/1140999393274814464

I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Barrowman liked walking around the Doctor Who sets with his knob out. I always thought there was something a bit disturbing about the way people joked about it as if it was just an eccentric little quirk of his, joking about a man essentially committing a sex offence on a kid's show and getting away with it because of his star status.

JB, soon-to-be Disgraced Wankbeast?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on April 30, 2021, 09:34:35 AM
Can't they use phone records to see if he sent the photo rather than map the contours of his pinger?

Doesn't even matter if it was his penis in the photo, just whether or not he sent it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Chollis on April 30, 2021, 09:38:43 AM
Quote from: Rev+ on April 30, 2021, 12:29:59 AM
It is of course important to remember that he's not been proven guilty of anything. 

exactly. the rule of 21 applies here I think

20 accusers? probably nothing

21? possibly something
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Norton Canes on April 30, 2021, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: Paul Calf on April 30, 2021, 09:11:36 AM
In cases like this, does the defendant's genitalia have to be produced in court to check whether they match the photos? I'm not being flippant here, I genuinely wonder how the pics are verified


It won't stand up in court etc.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blinder Data on April 30, 2021, 09:55:53 AM
writing gratuitous sex scenes that your character features in is the sign of a wrong'un. I'm sure someone on here linked to a scene from one of his films in which a character refers to how big his character's knob is for no reason? pathetic behaviour, Mickey
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on April 30, 2021, 10:06:26 AM
Twenty women? That's an awful lot of lying bitches trying to ruin an innocent man's career. Wonder how many victims it takes for people to believe them.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
Quote from: jobotic on April 30, 2021, 09:34:35 AM
Can't they use phone records to see if he sent the photo rather than map the contours of his pinger?

Doesn't even matter if it was his penis in the photo, just whether or not he sent it.
narrows it down though. If it was his penis, how would someone else have got hold of it to send it?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Do you reckon this and Barrowman is what Eccles was referring to when he said a toxic environment on Series 1 of NuWho? I always assumed it was a director but it could be that too.

RTD might have some stuff to answer for if more comes out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on April 30, 2021, 10:26:26 AM
If JB faces repercussions, I suspect Christopher Eccleston will speak more clearly about why he left the show. He's indicated before that he can't stand the man.

Quote from: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Do you reckon this and Barrowman is what Eccles was referring to when he said a toxic environment on Series 1 of NuWho? I always assumed it was a director but it could be that too.

RTD might have some stuff to answer for if more comes out.

Reading between the various lines Eccleston has given over the years, I think he might have deplored the onset culture (handily demonstrated by Noel Clarke in the above clip) that accommodated Barrowman's behaviour - perhaps including the higher-ups you mention. Eccleston seemed to adore RTD before signing up, and had worked with him previously. Not a friendly peep since.

Of course, since Eccles is such a serious professional, there might have been other factors (like the bullying director I believe he's vaguely mentioned), but it's difficult not to infer that Barrowman had something to do with it.

QuoteAsked if Davies was aware of the issues, Eccleston says, "If you're the showrunner, you know everything. That's your job," adding that he "never will have" a working relationship with the screenwriter again.

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-christopher-eccleston-russell-t-davies/
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on April 30, 2021, 10:33:13 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 09:20:02 AM
To me it's fairly obvious that he did send the pic because otherwise they'd flat out deny it.  If he says 'Nope, didn't do it' and they pull out a picture of his donger he's completely fucked.  This way he can 'deny' it, yet cover his ass if anything turns up.
Yeah, this way if they pull out a picture of his donger he'll be fine.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on April 30, 2021, 10:38:58 AM
I was halfway through watching the first episode of Viewpoint last night when I noticed this story. I was quite enjoying it and all. Thanks Noel for ruining my enjoyment of your ITV crime drama with your wandering hands and penis etc.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on April 30, 2021, 10:44:55 AM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
There's a clip going around of Noel Clarke talking about Barrowman's harassy behaviour on set, all in a light-hearted manner of course https://twitter.com/The66Ramblers/status/1140999393274814464
The most disturbing thing about this is how unfunny he is.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 10:52:30 AM
Quote from: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 10:25:00 AM
Do you reckon this and Barrowman is what Eccles was referring to when he said a toxic environment on Series 1 of NuWho?

To be fair I think Ecclescake has struggled to get on with everyone he's ever worked with.

Not that that means we've got a "boy who cried wolf" situation here of course. Personality clash or no, if he's witnessed anything he should be listened to.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 11:07:29 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 09:22:36 AM
If they continue to deny it's theirs i cant see why they couldnt have a medical examination for an expert witness (penis doctor) to testify. And if they refuse to have the examination it doesnt help the case for the defence.

I'd suspect that you would not really have any alternative than to submit to an examination. I recall Michael Jackson had his penis examined in preparation for court. That's how he came up with the concept for "They Don't Really Care About Us." They'd slap some extra charge on you if you kicked up a fuss about it, preventing the course of justice or something.

Always liked this guy. Probably will never finish the Kidulthood trilogy now.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: katzenjammer on April 30, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: druss on April 30, 2021, 10:44:55 AM
The most disturbing thing about this is how unfunny he is.

Painful wasn't it? Kept labouring the same 'gag' that only got an embarrassed titter from the audience the first time
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kelvin on April 30, 2021, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: Paul Calf on April 30, 2021, 09:11:36 AM
I'm not being flippant here, I genuinely wonder how the pics are verified.

I bet you do, you dirty old bollocks.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: robhug on April 30, 2021, 11:20:12 AM
He's needs to release a statement saying he's living his life as a gay black man asap to take the sting out
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on April 30, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
Quote from: katzenjammer on April 30, 2021, 11:12:18 AM
Painful wasn't it? Kept labouring the same 'gag' that only got an embarrassed titter from the audience the first time

I'm sure I remember a comedian(s) doing that bit with the microphone way back, seems like something Eddie Murphy might have done in the 80's.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on April 30, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
So what happens now? Are the police going to investigate?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 11:30:03 AM
He apparently secretly recorded a naked audition with Jahannah James. Here's him doing a 'prank' on her that involves him shouting at her to "get your fanny out and pee on him."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oofel1E_1B8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oofel1E_1B8)

QuotePowell says Clarke once showed her a secretly recorded video of one such audition with Jahannah James, an actor in Brotherhood. Powell told four people about Clarke's alleged secret filming, all of whom confirmed the conversation to the Guardian. They include James, her friend, whom she told about the incident in the winter of 2017, in a pub in south London. The naked audition had taken place more than four years previously, for the film Legacy. Powell was able to describe the exact haircut James had at that time – her hair is usually long and blond, but after a "hair disaster" she had cropped it short and returned to her natural brown.

James recalls Clarke had talked her into auditioning for the role. She had been hesitant. She was only 23 and fresh out of drama school. But Clarke persuaded her, explaining that the naked audition wouldn't be filmed; an email from her agent confirmed this agreement. "I was told 100% it was not going to be on camera," James says. As she understood it, the naked audition was purely to check she could do the scene and wasn't going to "bottle it" on the day.

The audition was mortifying, James recalls, and afterwards she pulled out of the running for the role; she didn't want one of her first acting jobs to be nude. The Guardian spoke to two friends of Powell and James who were also present in the pub that day and recalled the emotional exchange. "I was so upset," James recalls. "Now, years later, I still cry when I talk about it."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 30, 2021, 11:39:34 AM
Absolutely dreadful stuff. It certainly puts this into context:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/19/adam-deacon-kidulthood-bafta-noel-clarke-psychosis-the-retreat
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: MojoJojo on April 30, 2021, 12:08:33 PM
Sorry to post stuff from reddit but this caught me off guard:
(https://i.redd.it/t0xzz3655aw61.png)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: beanheadmcginty on April 30, 2021, 12:09:38 PM
In Ireland, "Mickey" is a slang term for penis. Case closed.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on April 30, 2021, 11:25:10 AM
So what happens now? Are the police going to investigate?

I wouldn't be surprised if sues the Guardian. He seems the controlling sort who will try and get back at the women who are accusing him in some way.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 30, 2021, 12:21:34 PM
The Guardian piece is pretty shocking and very damning. How can he possibly wave away the complaints of twenty women? He's done. Can't imagine his marriage is much longer for this world either, unless his wife (and mother of his three kids) is fine with "Noel being Noel"

What a turd
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: neveragain on April 30, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 11:30:03 AM
He apparently secretly recorded a naked audition with Jahannah James. Here's him doing a 'prank' on her that involves him shouting at her to "get your fanny out and pee on him."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oofel1E_1B8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oofel1E_1B8)

If that's real it's absolutely horrifying. As it progressed I was praying that she was in on it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Trumpet on April 30, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
Quote from: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if sues the Guardian. He seems the controlling sort who will try and get back at the women who are accusing him in some way.

That would be fantastically unwise of him. My partner is a journo who's done exposés of a similar nature, and you don't print a story like this unless you (and your legal team) are 100% confident in it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: neveragain on April 30, 2021, 12:24:36 PM
If that's real it's absolutely horrifying. As it progressed I was praying that she was in on it.

I'm pretty sure it's not real. It just looks too 'acted'.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 12:35:39 PM
Quote from: Mr Trumpet on April 30, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
That would be fantastically unwise of him. My partner is a journo who's done exposés of a similar nature, and you don't print a story like this unless you (and your legal team) are 100% confident in it.
I think he's more likely to go the Spacey route of issuing an apology and absolutely no one thinking it's sincere.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Chairman Yang on April 30, 2021, 12:45:11 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 12:35:39 PM
I think he's more likely to go the Spacey route of issuing an apology and absolutely no one thinking it's sincere.

And every Christmas afterwards we get an in-character Youtube video of Mickey Doctorwho railing against cancel culture.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 12:50:37 PM
Quote from: Mr Trumpet on April 30, 2021, 12:30:42 PM
That would be fantastically unwise of him. My partner is a journo who's done exposés of a similar nature, and you don't print a story like this unless you (and your legal team) are 100% confident in it.

I suppose it just depends if the Police end up getting involved.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 01:02:26 PM
Quote from: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 12:50:37 PM
I suppose it just depends if the Police end up getting involved.

It would have to be malicious lies for it to be worth suing. Yer Formula One fella Max Mosley sued the Sun for the Nazi spanking dungeon story and won, and it still led to plenty of further lurid details getting exposed in the press.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
Would the Journalists who broke the story be legally bound to report Noel to the police?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
There's a clip going around of Noel Clarke talking about Barrowman's harassy behaviour on set, all in a light-hearted manner of course https://twitter.com/The66Ramblers/status/1140999393274814464
legend
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 01:31:08 PM
Quote from: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
Would the Journalists who broke the story be legally bound to report Noel to the police?

From my vague recollections of a Media Law course I took ten years ago - no. But I'm sure there's someone more knowledgeable than me out there. I would think the duty to protect sources would mean that you didn't necessarily have to report everything to the police, as you might put sources in danger by doing so. Even if the criminal justice system put pressure on you to reveal your info to the police, the NUJ would fight your corner, and it would probably be a big scandal if you actually did get into serious trouble.

There's loads of VICE Media content where they talk to criminals; loads of the best docos end up talking to some criminal with a mask on and their voice altered.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on April 30, 2021, 01:35:21 PM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on April 29, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
There's a clip going around of Noel Clarke talking about Barrowman's harassy behaviour on set, all in a light-hearted manner of course https://twitter.com/The66Ramblers/status/1140999393274814464

Ugh. Clarke holding court like every pub boor trying to show off to a crowd.

"Imagine that eh? A cock in your face, on your shoulder. Yeah? You picturing it? Here, I'll show ya. Haha look at that. There's a cock on your shoulder, Camille! Haha. Eh? Nah nah it can't be offensive, the cock I'm pretending is on your shoulder is gay."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: drummersaredeaf on April 30, 2021, 01:40:36 PM
Quote from: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
One of the Gallaghers is called Noel. Not sure which one.

Noel Gallagher.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: neveragain on April 30, 2021, 01:50:06 PM
Quote from: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not real. It just looks too 'acted'.

I'm glad you said that, the thought had crossed my mind.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: SpiderChrist on April 30, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on April 30, 2021, 01:40:36 PM
Noel Gallagher.

I thought it was the other one. Boneface or summat.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: studpuppet on April 30, 2021, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: SpiderChrist on April 30, 2021, 01:51:36 PM
I thought it was the other one. Boneface or summat.

(http://aveleyman.com/Gallery/2017/G/19715.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: filth gabs on April 30, 2021, 02:42:18 PM
Has everyone on this board seen Bob Mortimer on RHLSTP?

He tells a story regarding Keith Allen that i cannot believe has not been picked up on.


I am being a bit careful here as I dont want to bring repurcussions to the Admin, but seeing as Mortimer is a trained solicitor I think there is more to his story than a bit of comedy Bantz. He doesnt seem to like the guy, even if he doesnt fully condemn him.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: drummersaredeaf on April 30, 2021, 01:40:36 PM
Noel Gallagher.
Ah that's the one.  Had me stumped for ages, I resisted the temptation to Google the answer and all.  Seems so obvious when you think about it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on April 30, 2021, 02:53:45 PM
Isn't Keith Allen fairly well known as a get-your-knob-out bantz merchantcunt?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 30, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
I've heard rumours about Moby doing that as well. Obvs there's other stories about him being creepy too.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bronzy on April 30, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: Sebastian Cobb on April 30, 2021, 02:56:09 PM
I've heard rumours about Moby doing that as well. Obvs there's other stories about him being creepy too.

I've heard he's a bit of a dick.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 30, 2021, 03:04:44 PM
He's already getting dropped by TV companies
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/30/noel-clarke-dropped-by-broadcasters-over-sexual-harassment-claims

Hope the dude saved, as it's unlikely he'll be offered any work in the entertainment field again

This is what amazes me about these kinds of stories. Did he really think no one would ever come forward or call him out on his behaviour? Do ego, money and fame really make you feel like you're, ho ho, bulletproof?

I know we've all done things we're not proud of in our lives, it's human nature, but 20 different women are saying he made their lives hell. How do you even sleep at night? How do you look your mother, or sister, or daughter in the eye? Absolute madness
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: pigamus on April 30, 2021, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: Natnar on April 30, 2021, 01:21:44 PM
Would the Journalists who broke the story be legally bound to report Noel to the police?

You are legally bound to report every Noel to the police
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on April 30, 2021, 03:04:44 PM
I know we've all done things we're not proud of in our lives, it's human nature, but 20 different women are saying he made their lives hell. How do you even sleep at night? How do you look your mother, or sister, or daughter in the eye? Absolute madness

Tempting to think people who do stuff like this have some kind of personality disorder, psychopaths or narcissists I guess. And these people would be attracted to fields like media, and their unpleasant wiring makes them particularly susceptible to rising to the top and attaining positions of power.

What I guess I'm saying is, he wouldn't do it if he didn't enjoy it. Must have a bunch of cronies around him too, or no sense of shame.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: pigamus on April 30, 2021, 03:07:28 PM
You are legally bound to report every Noel to the police

This one Noel cunt used to break into my house every Christmas and eat all my mince pies. Lock up the lot of them.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 03:15:39 PM
These days you're immediately cancelled by the woke mob if you comes to light you're a prolific sexual abuser who supports fellow actors waving their willies about on set. Chilling.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 03:18:10 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 03:15:39 PM
These days you're immediately cancelled by the woke mob if you comes to light you're a prolific sexual abuser who supports fellow actors waving their willies about on set. Chilling.

GB News save us.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: pigamus on April 30, 2021, 03:19:11 PM
Chris Evans does it as well

No not that o - oh wait a minute yes that one
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on April 30, 2021, 03:39:28 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on April 30, 2021, 03:04:44 PM
He's already getting dropped by TV companies
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/30/noel-clarke-dropped-by-broadcasters-over-sexual-harassment-claims

Hope the dude saved, as it's unlikely he'll be offered any work in the entertainment field again

This is what amazes me about these kinds of stories. Did he really think no one would ever come forward or call him out on his behaviour? Do ego, money and fame really make you feel like you're, ho ho, bulletproof?

I know we've all done things we're not proud of in our lives, it's human nature, but 20 different women are saying he made their lives hell. How do you even sleep at night? How do you look your mother, or sister, or daughter in the eye? Absolute madness

Sounds like he had quite the trusted entourage and he was their Legend Gary. So you can get some desperate, unknown actress in for a nude scene and effectively tape your own porno on studio time knowing full well that nobody is going to say anything. Probably deluded himself into believing they were into it. After all, none of them have asked him to stop. He must have felt invincible.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on April 30, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
Getting your knob out at work uninvited is genuinely really strange behaviour.

It's interesting that so many people in the media do it, because you could work in other fields for a thousand years and not encounter anyone who found it a fun thing to do.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on April 30, 2021, 03:43:52 PM
Imagine how much of a cunt Liam Edmonds must be.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: BeardFaceMan on April 30, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on April 30, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
Getting your knob out at work uninvited is genuinely really strange behaviour.

It's interesting that so many people in the media do it, because you could work in other fields for a thousand years and not encounter anyone who found it a fun thing to do.

I dunno, I worked in a steelworks when I was 18 and my first week there one of the blokes got his knob out to show me while everyone laughed.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 03:49:55 PM
I mean there's Captain Beefheart, that's as much as I know about the phenomenon.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
I once had a hydrocele which made my left testes (the thing inside the testes-satchel) around the size of a tangerine and I would get it out occasionally. I waited for enthusiastic consent first, of course, which was usually readily-given.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on April 30, 2021, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
I once had a hydrocele which made my left testes (the thing inside the testes-satchel) around the size of a tangerine and I would get it out occasionally. I waited for enthusiastic consent first, of course, which was usually readily-given.

Yeah I had a think about it and had to go back and specify "at work".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 30, 2021, 03:58:34 PM
My dad worked at BT, and at one of the Christmas drinks in a pub, there was some willy action

They got the photos developed, and one scamp had his disco stick hanging over the shoulder of some poor oblivious sod

It were the 90s though, no one knew you couldn't wipe your slimer on a shoulder, honest guv!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on April 30, 2021, 04:00:11 PM
Quote from: BeardFaceMan on April 30, 2021, 03:45:18 PM
I dunno, I worked in a steelworks when I was 18 and my first week there one of the blokes got his knob out to show me while everyone laughed.

One prick of a chef in the kitchen I worked at used to whip down other chefs whites. Prick behaviour but I admit I did laugh when he did it to the head chef, and they turned round to shout at him and burned their arse on the stove.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 30, 2021, 04:00:51 PM
That's out of Carry On, surely!

*Tin whistle*
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 04:02:37 PM
Don't think I've ever seen a willy
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on April 30, 2021, 11:22:56 AM
I'm sure I remember a comedian(s) doing that bit with the microphone way back, seems like something Eddie Murphy might have done in the 80's.

I didn't watch the full clip but if you mean the slapping-the-mic-to-make-funny-sound thing then yeah Murphy did it in his bit about his Aunt Bunny falling down the steps.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bad Ambassador on April 30, 2021, 04:11:02 PM
The last episode of his ITV drama has been pulled from tonight's schedule, to be dumped on the ITV Hub for two days before being permanently removed.

Oh, its replacement in the schedule? It'll Be Alright on the Night, hosted by none-more-unreproachable David Walliams.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on April 30, 2021, 04:13:52 PM
Walliams completely got away with it, didn't he? His career carried on like nothing ever happened

Teflon. Teflon twat
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: studpuppet on April 30, 2021, 04:14:22 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on April 30, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
Getting your knob out at work uninvited is genuinely really strange behaviour.

It's interesting that so many people in the media do it, because you could work in other fields for a thousand years and not encounter anyone who found it a fun thing to do.

This allows me to relate the story of my mum's jury service a few years ago. An orthodontist was up on a charge of indecent exposure and sexual assault. He'd basically unzipped himself and brushed his old fellah across the hand of the young lady that was in his dentist's chair - his defence was that he'd forgotten to zip up after going to the loo and because he went commando, his prong had escaped by accident. My mum's considered opinion as a juror: "He was a lovely, sweet old man - guilty as hell, mind you."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bigfatheart on April 30, 2021, 04:14:53 PM
Auf Wiedersehen, Pest

cus he was in the revived Auf Wiedersehen, Pet, but that's not what anyone remembers him for
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: filth gabs on April 30, 2021, 02:42:18 PM
Has everyone on this board seen Bob Mortimer on RHLSTP?

He tells a story regarding Keith Allen that i cannot believe has not been picked up on.

Perhaps that's due to his status as, er, an especially valued member of The Groucho Club.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: turnstyle on April 30, 2021, 04:17:12 PM
The image they've used on the BBC home page makes it look like they've caught the rotter spying on some ladies with their kecks off, like a darkly sinister Robin Askwith.

(https://i.ibb.co/grjgbcZ/nc.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 04:17:36 PM
Did Walliams get his pud out too, aye?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on April 30, 2021, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on April 30, 2021, 04:13:52 PM
Walliams completely got away with it, didn't he? His career carried on like nothing ever happened

Teflon. Teflon twat

O I do hope that creep's time comes (I'm sure it will).
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Trumpet on April 30, 2021, 04:18:03 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on April 30, 2021, 03:51:29 PM
I once had a hydrocele which made my left testes (the thing inside the testes-satchel) around the size of a tangerine and I would get it out occasionally. I waited for enthusiastic consent first, of course, which was usually readily-given.

I knew a lad in sixth form who must have had one of those! He'd get it out as well, but only on request or if he lost a bet.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:18:29 PM
Knobouthood
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 04:19:31 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:18:29 PM
Knobouthood

Havingtoreportyouremovingintotheneighbourhood
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:22:38 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on April 30, 2021, 04:13:52 PM
Walliams completely got away with it, didn't he? His career carried on like nothing ever happened

Teflon. Teflon twat

He also got away with having hosted The President's Club Gala for several years by giving the same excuse that most of the attendees gave- ie, that he left before he saw any of the waiting staff being sexually harassed.

Heard a few creepy things about him myself, I'm sure he's getting twitchy.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:27:59 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on April 30, 2021, 03:39:33 PM
Getting your knob out at work uninvited is genuinely really strange behaviour.

It's interesting that so many people in the media do it, because you could work in other fields for a thousand years and not encounter anyone who found it a fun thing to do.

The more desirable the job, the more glamorous the industry, the more supply exceeds demand, the more getting ahead isn't a matter of working the hardest but being the most desperate- the more likely you are to find a cock bouncing off your shoulder.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: pigamus on April 30, 2021, 04:33:16 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 04:02:37 PM
Don't think I've ever seen a willy

Charlene's chart career kind of tailed off didn't it
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: dissolute ocelot on April 30, 2021, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: Bad Ambassador on April 30, 2021, 04:11:02 PM
The last episode of his ITV drama has been pulled from tonight's schedule, to be dumped on the ITV Hub for two days before being permanently removed.

Oh, its replacement in the schedule? It'll Be Alright on the Night, hosted by none-more-unreproachable David Walliams.
This seems a bit unfair. Presumably some people actually like to watch ITV dramas and care about what happens in the end. Couldn't they just pixellate him like on Police Camera Action, or get Noel Edmonds to reshoot his scenes, like what they did with Kevin Spacey?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ornlu on April 30, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
Quote from: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
One of the Gallaghers is called Noel. Not sure which one.

The First Noel.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thugler on April 30, 2021, 04:36:04 PM
Not sure how this guy had such a big career in the first place. Everything he's done has been absolute SFC. Particularly the 'dulthood' films which he made his name on. They were absolute crap.
Never liked him and glad he's CANCELLED.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Ornlu on April 30, 2021, 04:34:05 PM
The First Noel.

The Fourth Noel (https://youtu.be/ZdGqLtmS-jk?t=5m28s)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blumf on April 30, 2021, 04:42:30 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 04:02:37 PM
Don't think I've ever seen a willy

How about a percy?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 04:45:11 PM
Quote from: thugler on April 30, 2021, 04:36:04 PM
Not sure how this guy had such a big career in the first place. Everything he's done has been absolute SFC. Particularly the 'dulthood' films which he made his name on. They were absolute crap.
Never liked him and glad he's CANCELLED.

People confusing him with Larry Clark and Kids?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bazooka on April 30, 2021, 04:49:06 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/CsLPxpN/0-Fishermans-Friends-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S7SfqDW)

His possible revenge for being left off the Fisherman's Friends poster?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: turnstyle on April 30, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
Quote from: Bazooka on April 30, 2021, 04:49:06 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/CsLPxpN/0-Fishermans-Friends-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/S7SfqDW)

His possible revenge for being left off the Fisherman's Friends poster?

The framing of the poster makes it look like he's the seagull. If so, fair play to the fella, he's got incredible range.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on April 30, 2021, 04:56:15 PM
What's seagull-like about him?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 04:58:05 PM
I used to work with a guy who I really thought was as low as you could get. Like a real epitome of a Legend Gary. Some of his "antics" but not limited to this are:

I think about all that and then I see that there are people in significantly higher paid and more powerful employment who are doing much worse and it really is horrid to think that it could be "an open secret". For years, I thought how the hell the guy was kept on when all the managers knew what he was like. I was actually afraid to make any complaints about him because he seemed to get away with a lot from the union backing him.

I don't really know what I am saying. I guess it all makes me feel like this kind of "open secret" makes most people feel like it is the people higher up the chain condoning the actions by not condemning them and therefore being afraid of complaining for fear of repercussions from those higher ups.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: turnstyle on April 30, 2021, 05:08:10 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 04:58:05 PM

  • Within an hour of being seated next to a young woman who had just started, he had informed her that he likes it rough in bed.

If he'd followed that up with 'and that's why my bed sheets are made of sand paper!' in a Les Dawson voice, he could have juuuust steered it away from the dangerous A roads of rapey and back into the quiet cul-de-sac of gentle bants.

Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on April 30, 2021, 05:20:30 PM
I worked with a similar Legend Gary who, when on his training day, the instructor taking him through the procedures bent over to help someone on another bank of desks, and good old Gary proceeded to stand up and mime doing her doggystyle from behind. He wasn't remotely fazed when no-one laughed and instead just stared in shock and embarrassment. The instructor found out and just let it go. I was not working for a good company back then.

He was still hired (of course) and proceeded to tell another colleague out of nowhere "I'd love to cum on your tits." Legennnnnnnnnnd.

A few months in he was eventually given the boot for non-predatory reasons. Stapled a customer's refund cheque to a blank piece of paper and wrote "here is your cheque" on it in ballpoint. The post room phoned up and demanded to know who thought that was acceptable and that was Gary on his way out the door.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 04:58:05 PM
I used to work with a guy who I really thought was as low as you could get. Like a real epitome of a Legend Gary. Some of his "antics" but not limited to this are:

  • Telling a young woman she should wear more low cut outfits.
  • Singing "heaven must be missing angels" to some very young women who had just started.
  • Didn't dry his hands after watching them after the toilet and rubbed them on a woman's face and said "ball sweat".
  • After a "suspicious package" was identified in the mail room of our building, he came over to a colleague, grabbed his own crotch and said "I've got a suspicious package right here".
  • Within an hour of being seated next to a young woman who had just started, he had informed her that he likes it rough in bed.

I think about all that and then I see that there are people in significantly higher paid and more powerful employment who are doing much worse and it really is horrid to think that it could be "an open secret". For years, I thought how the hell the guy was kept on when all the managers knew what he was like. I was actually afraid to make any complaints about him because he seemed to get away with a lot from the union backing him.

I don't really know what I am saying. I guess it all makes me feel like this kind of "open secret" makes most people feel like it is the people higher up the chain condoning the actions by not condemning them and therefore being afraid of complaining for fear of repercussions from those higher ups.

Thanks for sharing that James TC. I can recall a couple of times I worked in menial customer service jobs and experienced similar things. One time this guy said to me "What are you like in bed? Because we were just talking about this and we reckon you're like a vixen, biting and scratching". I was a bit horrified by this and told him, and a guy who overheard this told him he was bang out of order and he then accepted it and apologised.

Another time I had a colleague who had just started his first ever job. He was openly going on about women there he fancied and then asked me "What about you? Are you dirty?". A supervisor overheard him and reported him and we had a bit of a formal chat where it was drummed into him that this is not an appropriate way to behave at work and from then on he calmed down, got his head down with the work and actually became quite a pleasant person to work with.

Both of those guys were young and immature, and had their problematic behaviour nipped in the bud (at least I hope it was) early on. I have also worked with a couple of older guys who were more senior and very "handsy" with young, powerless female staff, and I wonder if no-one ever had words with them.

It makes me wonder how many more young men don't have that behaviour challenged at all, for whatever reason- they're wealthy, well-connected, got the job through nepotism, are valued because they're extremely talented or valuable to the firm etc, and people are afraid to challenge them. And how this might enable and embolden them to keep being more and more creepy, and as they move up in their careers people get more powerless to challenge them.

I know it's #NotAllMen but I do often wonder if a sizeable minority of men are sleazebags, perhaps thanks to them missing out on early lessons on what kind of behaviour is appropriate. I'm in a  wonderful relationship with a wonderful man, my male friends are all lovely and not remotely sleazy, and I really wish I didn't feel that way but I've just observed this behaviour depressingly often.

Thinking about the time I used to wait tables in the City of London I remembered how sleazy and obnoxious the City Boys were, wealthy men who were quite young but still old enough to know better, being sleazy and boorish towards waiting and bar staff just because they could, buouyed up on a sense of entitlement no-one had ever dared to challenge. It's that Bullingdon Club attitude, it comes from the same place.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on April 30, 2021, 05:24:04 PM
Ugh. I'm not at all surprised the City bankers treated you like that, their workplaces have a reputation for being extremely misogynistic.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on April 30, 2021, 06:00:02 PM
I've been reviewing his filmography and it turns out he also thought about my penis during the filming of Star Trek into darkness!

(https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/noel-clarke-as-thomas-harewood-in-the-2013-movie-star-trek-into-picture-id542422052)

Unbelievable!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 06:10:21 PM
I think it definitely is the thing that (mainly) young men unchallenged then snowball into much worse behaviour as they become more confident. Add in the fact that as they become more confident, people around them because less confident in challenging them.

I'm just not sure what can be done about it. When this behaviour is happening publicly, ultimately is it everybody's responsibility to point it out? I felt with the Legend Gary above that there was no point in reporting his behaviour to the managers as they were well aware of it (likewise they were aware of the days he drove into work drunk) and I felt scared to go to the union as I felt they had backed him in the past so would back him now.

If it isn't up to the people at the bottom of the career wrung (who are most often the victims of this behaviour) then who is responsible? Is it managers (or in entertainment industry the directors, writers and executives)?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
My understanding is it's a cultural and upbringing problem and not necessarily masculine alone though clearly men outnumber women in the issue.

Prefacing this by saying I'm just sharing an experience and not trying to negate the legitimate, daily, very real problem of gender inequality.

But I worked in a dept dominated by other women for a while and they too had a very inappropriate attitude towards sex and the workplace. Legit groping male staffmembers, comments and questions that would get you knocked out in a pub etc, some of whom they targeted had issues or were too awkward to tell them off etc. I gave them shit for it and told them if they were a bloke they'd get their shit kicked in (and being a woman of equal opportunity I very much desired to demonstrate for them but alas we live in a world of law.). But of course being the only non-straight member of the team I was dismissed as "just being a d*ke". Alas they all left in turn one by one before their review meetings over the complaints I made anonymously.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on April 30, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on April 30, 2021, 12:35:39 PM
I think he's more likely to go the Spacey route of issuing an apology and absolutely no one thinking it's sincere.

You called it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56948644

"Getting professional help" too.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on April 30, 2021, 07:33:24 PM
It's just incomprehensible to me, this sort of behaviour. I wouldn't even contemplate sending my wife a dick pic!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 07:34:14 PM
I also wouldn't send your wife a dick pic.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on April 30, 2021, 07:37:55 PM
Yeah, sorry about that, she's usually much more sympathetic and considerate towards those less fortunate, but she just couldn't stop laughing at the last one you sent.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 07:40:25 PM
It was cold out and in fairness it was just harmless bantz and I was being a LAD.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on April 30, 2021, 07:43:29 PM
Ah well, these things happen.

Look at us, being all bantz and everything. This is probably how it starts, you know. Slippery slope, soon we'll be covertly filming nude auditions too!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on April 30, 2021, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 04:08:07 PM
I didn't watch the full clip but if you mean the slapping-the-mic-to-make-funny-sound thing then yeah Murphy did it in his bit about his Aunt Bunny falling down the steps.

That's probably what I'm thinking of now you mention it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: mothman on April 30, 2021, 07:43:29 PMSlippery slope, soon we'll be covertly filming nude auditions too!

You prepare the denial. I'll prepare the apology for the thing we have denied.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: gib on April 30, 2021, 08:34:42 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on April 30, 2021, 09:40:00 AM

It won't stand up in court etc.

haha
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on April 30, 2021, 08:26:01 PM
That's probably what I'm thinking of now you mention it.

I rewatched and he does it with his mouth but it's basically the same sound. Delirious as a whole is soured by the homophobia but the anecdote of Bunny falling down the stairs while screaming prayers still makes me titter. [THUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMP] "OH LORD HELP ME JESUS LORD"
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on April 30, 2021, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 08:49:02 PM
I rewatched and he does it with his mouth but it's basically the same sound. Delirious as a whole is soured by the homophobia but the anecdote of Bunny falling down the stairs while screaming prayers still makes me titter. [THUMPTHUMPTHUMPTHUMP] "OH LORD HELP ME JESUS LORD"

I can picture it in my mind, Delirious and Raw were two of the first VHS tapes I remember hiring in the mid 80's and as you say, I can imagine it hasn't aged well - 14 year old me loved though.

New page auntieinacoma
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on April 30, 2021, 09:25:41 PM
Stewart Lee does some funny mic tapping in his 'carving Richard Littlejohn's headstone' bit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on April 30, 2021, 09:28:30 PM
Quote from: Jerzy Bondov on April 30, 2021, 09:25:41 PM
Stewart Lee does some funny mic tapping in his 'carving Richard Littlejohn's headstone' bit.

James Acaster uses it in his duckshoot bit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bronzy on April 30, 2021, 09:39:11 PM
Quote from: Bronzy on April 30, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
I've heard he's a bit of a dick.

Moby Dick joke lads
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on April 30, 2021, 09:44:37 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on April 30, 2021, 10:19:09 AM
narrows it down though. If it was his penis, how would someone else have got hold of it to send it?

Doesn't matter does it? If I send an unwanted picture of a penis to a colleague it's sexual harassment, whether it's mine, taken from a porn mag or a rubbish drawing. The thing that matters is that I sent it.


Sorry, we've moved on to Barrowman's rubbish drawing.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Elderly Sumo Prophecy on April 30, 2021, 11:01:00 PM
It piqued my interest, so I just googled "John Barrowman's cock", and found what I believe to be a genuine photograph. It is quite big, and you could definitely flop it onto the shoulder of a co-star of a BBC production while they were sat down getting their makeup done.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Satchmo Distel on April 30, 2021, 11:10:16 PM
Barrowman in 2008: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2008/dec/02/bbc-radio
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 01, 2021, 12:33:42 AM
EDIT GLITCH
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 01, 2021, 07:02:20 AM
I saw Barrowman on Lorraine the other morning. He was speaking in a thick Scottish accent.

At first I thought he was taking the piss out of Lorraine, or maybe doing some Performance Art, but no, apparently he speaks like that sometimes. I'd always thought he was American.

Didn't see his cock, mind

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/tv/lorraine-viewers-baffled-john-barrowmans-19725347

Also, these jokes just write themselves sometimes don't they?
https://johnbarrowman.com/stage/images/dick2016/dick2016b.jpg
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on May 01, 2021, 07:58:56 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/apr/30/noel-clarke-shows-dropped-as-allegations-shake-tv-industry

Up to 26 women now, plus claims he made drama students strip down to their undercrackers.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 01, 2021, 09:04:53 AM
That's the thing, isn't it. This is probably the tip of the iceberg. Once some people feel brave enough to come forward, most times others will too

Is this the worst British entertainment industry case so far? (Apart from Savile, obviously). Although it appears currently that no "full on rape" occured, that's a lot of victims claiming a lot of nasty stuff. He could be the British Weinstein at this rate
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 01, 2021, 09:33:56 AM
Quote from: Guardian article
Clarke denies he slapped Seltveit's backside and said he did not recall sending her an unsolicited picture of his penis. His lawyers said it was "highly unlikely" that Clarke would have shared such an image. Seltveit showed the Guardian a copy of the "dick pic", which was labelled as having been shared with her by Clarke.
Pretty sure the bit in bold has been added in the last day or so.  So I'd like to be obnoxious for a bit and go 'called it'.  The bum slapping he flat out denies as there's very little chance of evidence existing of the event.  Even if they did have CCTV or whatever, it's an act that can be argued away in several different ways ('just a bit of harmless fun').

However, logs from a phone are pretty indelible and it's no surprise that she has evidence of it, so his initial response was 'did not recall'.

Anyway, can we start talking about his penis again?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 01, 2021, 09:37:18 AM
I've definitely never sent a picture of my penis to somebody. If I had sent a picture of my penis to somebody, I would definitely recall such an event.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on May 01, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
I think the Guardian is now saying they've talked to 26 women who have complained about Clarke.

His only slim chance of saving his career is a complete confession and apology, but I suppose that's far from guaranteed and would open him up to lawsuits.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 01, 2021, 09:43:59 AM
Even if he did a full apology, it wouldn't ring true now.

Not even Big Finish or the Doctor Who convention circuit would touch him now.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pink Gregory on May 01, 2021, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 01, 2021, 09:43:59 AM
Even if he did a full apology, it wouldn't ring true now.

Not even Big Finish or the Doctor Who convention circuit would touch him now.

Only sorry because he got caught.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 01, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
I generally go to extreme lengths to AVOID anyone else seeing my genitals
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 01, 2021, 11:28:32 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 01, 2021, 11:16:27 AM
I generally go to extreme lengths to AVOID anyone else seeing my genitals

I even get undressed in the dark with a blindfold on so I don't have to see mine.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 01, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
That's why I still have a bottle of Matey as an adult
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Malcy on May 01, 2021, 11:34:49 AM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on May 01, 2021, 07:02:20 AM
I saw Barrowman on Lorraine the other morning. He was speaking in a thick Scottish accent.

At first I thought he was taking the piss out of Lorraine, or maybe doing some Performance Art, but no, apparently he speaks like that sometimes. I'd always thought he was American.

Didn't see his cock, mind

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/tv/lorraine-viewers-baffled-john-barrowmans-19725347

Also, these jokes just write themselves sometimes don't they?
https://johnbarrowman.com/stage/images/dick2016/dick2016b.jpg

He was born in Glasgow and moved to America around 7 or 8 I think. He usually reverts back to it when talking to his parents or anyone else Scottish.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 01, 2021, 11:59:05 AM
Yes, and really after about 50 years of practice you'd have thought he'd have managed to progress past the "obviously fake generic American accent" stage.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: daf on May 01, 2021, 12:00:37 PM
Regarding Barrowman's wandering accent - I just assumed he was Canadian!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on May 01, 2021, 12:00:52 PM
Dying to hear an Eccleston interview on this. Don't think he'll be comfortable talking about it again though and in more detail this time. It could get very messy with RTD and all.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: M-CORP on May 01, 2021, 12:05:37 PM
There is an issue of Doctor Who Magazine coming out soon with part 2 of an interview with Eccleston (coinciding with his new audio adventures). But given it will have gone to press ages before this week's revelations, I doubt it will be anything substantial. Probably will hint at the reasons for leaving but nothing more than he's said elsewhere.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 01, 2021, 12:06:07 PM
I'd be surprised if Eccleston said any more - maybe in an autobiography one day. He seemed to decide early on to not talk about it and the occasions in which he has done so feel more impulsive or just attempts to try to forestall further queries and speculation (which didn't work, as anyone could have predicted, hence my feeling it's more impulse than calculation).
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on April 30, 2021, 05:24:04 PM
Ugh. I'm not at all surprised the City bankers treated you like that, their workplaces have a reputation for being extremely misogynistic.

As an undergrad I worked for an events catering agency so I did a lot of big Christmas parties, awards ceremonies etc for big banks, and also quite a few sporting events. I once worked at a pop-up restaurant at a certain event associated with rather upper-class, wealthy, genteel types. On the first day we got a table of Hooray Henrys who spent the entire day there, never venturing out to watch the action, just sitting at their table ordering bottle after bottle of champagne and braying at the female staff, calling out our names as they barked orders and seeming to get off on treating us like servants. One woman there (let's call her Sartah) was very pretty and I heard a lot of "OI! SARAH! GET OVER HERE!" and one time when one of them came up to the bar and I asked what he wanted he went "Urghhhh, I don't wanna be served by you, where's Sarah? She's the only good-looking bird in this place", and he said that as if it was a perfectly normal and not at all insulting thing to say, and looked a bit confused when I was taken aback by that, in a kind of "Urghhh, what's her problem?" kind of way. While this was going on I think Sarah had decided to hide away for a bit.

On the second I arrived and told the boss "Sorry I haven't got my name badge, I lost it". As did every single other member of staff. He just quietly nodded and did a look that said "Yes, I totally understand, don't worry, it's fine".

Quote from: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 06:10:21 PM
I think it definitely is the thing that (mainly) young men unchallenged then snowball into much worse behaviour as they become more confident. Add in the fact that as they become more confident, people around them because less confident in challenging them.

Quote from: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
My understanding is it's a cultural and upbringing problem and not necessarily masculine alone though clearly men outnumber women in the issue.

I think it's both of these things and that the first leads to the second. I think from birth you get a steady drip feed of messages telling you women are inferior to men and contemptible and not deserving of respect. At my primary school we had a piano teacher who would come into our classroom and ask the form teacher "Can I borrow four big strong BOYS to help me move the piano?" and of course all the girls would put their hands up, and she'd just pick out four boys and they'd leave, grinning at us and how we'd all just been told how weak and pathetic we were. We had a teacher who was prone to telling boys "Stop giggling like silly schoolgirls! You're sensible boys!". Then there's stuff like "You throw like a girl", "That's a girl's bike", "art and music are girl's subjects" etc.

I think the seeds are sown there. Then later in life you get young men pushing the envelope a bit, maybe saying something a bit sleazy to a woman behind a bar, a woman serving them food etc, and getting more confident as they get away with it. They don't stop to think that it's because these women are paid to smile and be polite and are powerless to complain or object to their behaviour, and they probably think women are absolutely fine with it for that same reason. Then when one woman in 20 has had a long day and is tired and then cracks, and just bursts into tears or loses her temper, it's "What's her problem?"- she's seen as the exception, the one being unreasonable, and why can't she just be nice like the other 19 who quietly smiled (and only shuddered in disgust once they were out of view)? I think the snowballing effect is what we see here, men believing they've done nothing wrong because no-one dared to tell them and there were no consequences, and gaining the confidence to try and get away with more.

Back to the City Boys and the braying Rahs, I think a lot of it is to do with money and the cuture around these men. I've worked in a pub where the older customers could be sleazy, but the younger men were mostly fine. The same age as those City Boys but not emboldened by a toxic working environment and people being too afraid to call them out on their unacceptable behaviour. I do have to wonder if there's something about single-sex private schools for boys too-obviously I didn't attend one but I always noticed some horribly misogynistic attitudes among the posh male students when I was an undergrad.

Incidentally I went to a private single-sex school for girls and I really hope I'm not like that.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 01, 2021, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 01, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
That's why I still have a bottle of Matey as an adult

(https://mongolcult.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/rik-matey.jpg?w=736)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 12:17:57 PM
Quote from: H-O-W-L on April 30, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
I worked in a dept dominated by other women for a while and they too had a very inappropriate attitude towards sex and the workplace. Legit groping male staffmembers, comments and questions that would get you knocked out in a pub etc, some of whom they targeted had issues or were too awkward to tell them off etc. I gave them shit for it and told them if they were a bloke they'd get their shit kicked in (and being a woman of equal opportunity I very much desired to demonstrate for them but alas we live in a world of law.). But of course being the only non-straight member of the team I was dismissed as "just being a d*ke". Alas they all left in turn one by one before their review meetings over the complaints I made anonymously.

I once worked in a lab group headed up by a very handsome gay man. A few of the women in the department would try to flirt with him, lightly touch his arm etc and generally act in a very inappropriate way. They seemed to have this attitude that because he was gay it was harmless and somehow not creepy. No outright groping or sexual harassment but it always made me cringe so hard.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: Alberon on May 01, 2021, 09:38:47 AM
I think the Guardian is now saying they've talked to 26 women who have complained about Clarke.

His only slim chance of saving his career is a complete confession and apology, but I suppose that's far from guaranteed and would open him up to lawsuits.

He could always get a job on GB News.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 01, 2021, 01:11:57 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on April 30, 2021, 07:34:14 PM
I also wouldn't send your wife a dick pic.

A usually meek guy in his 50s in the pub handed me his phone to try and re-enable autorotate on pictures, which he'd accidentally disabled and wanted re-enabled. I was fiddling around with it and changed pictures to reveal him taking a pic with his knob out in front of the mirror. I exclaimed bloody hell Gary! And he just coyly smirked and said 'sorry that was for the wife'. I saw him in a different light after that, especially since his cock remarkably big.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PaulTMA on May 01, 2021, 01:13:28 PM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on April 30, 2021, 02:53:45 PM
Isn't Keith Allen fairly well known as a get-your-knob-out bantz merchantcunt?

I remember Alex James saying proudly about Damien Hirst, "he's got this trick where he puts his foreskin in his zip fly and says to a woman, 'I've got some chewing gum stuck on my trousers, can you help me get it off'".  Creatively repugnant
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on May 01, 2021, 01:16:40 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 12:10:22 PMemboldened by a toxic working environment

I don't know the relative timings of the incidents Clarke is accused of and his work on Doctor Who, but I do wonder if Barrowman's behaviour and the very clear lack of consequences for it had that effect on him? For allowing that kind of behaviour to continue and clearly making no effort to ensure a safe workplace RTD should be as much of a pariah as Clarke now is. I've no doubt that there were loads of low-level staff who absolutely hated it but didn't feel able to complain about the behaviour of the star.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 01, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
I think there could be something in the thought that some men could treat women badly or not know how to behave in the presence of a woman, due to attending an all boys school. Or growing up without a mother, or a sister

Of course, this certainly doesn't go for all men brought up in those circumstances, but I reckon there's something in that thought Blue Jam

I have a younger and an older sister, went to a mixed school,so I've always been around girls, all my life. If I'd said or done anything even remotely off or sexist, I'd have caught a kick in the nuts, and rightfully so. But more importantly you learn from birth that females are equal and just as important as your own self

I'm far from being any kind of saint myself, but I genuinely can't believe stuff like this is still going on, in 2021. I'm glad these arseholes are getting called out and it's getting people talking. This shit needs to die out
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 01:21:15 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on May 01, 2021, 01:16:51 PM
I think there could be something in the thought that some men could treat women badly or not know how to behave in the presence of a woman, due to attending an all boys school. Or growing up without a mother, or a sister

Could it be something to do with the "civilising influence" that women supposedly have on groups of men?

It is weird that men often grow to hate women despite the fact that all men have mothers, isn't it? Simon Amstell did a bit about this, about how the C-word is used as an insult when it effectively means "the portal to life".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 01, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
So, Noel Clarke,
You thought you were Bulletproof-
A member of the Millionaire's Club.

But all you really turned out to be
was two more days on ITV Hub.

So long, and thanks for all the pish.
Noel Who?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: dissolute ocelot on May 01, 2021, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 12:10:22 PM
Back to the City Boys and the braying Rahs, I think a lot of it is to do with money and the cuture around these men. I've worked in a pub where the older customers could be sleazy, but the younger men were mostly fine. The same age as those City Boys but not emboldened by a toxic working environment and people being too afraid to call them out on their unacceptable behaviour. I do have to wonder if there's something about single-sex private schools for boys too-obviously I didn't attend one but I always noticed some horribly misogynistic attitudes among the posh male students when I was an undergrad.
There's definitely a work culture that perpetuates that. There's some jobs with a real "work hard, play hard!" culture, where men feel they have to be the alpha male by being more outrageous, drinking more, doing more ridiculous things. It's definitely encouraged. There's the managers who think they have to be down with the kids and behave as they imagine a 20 year old would do, that's one part of it, and helps ensure that the "weak" leave and the assholes remain.

And that thing where there's a group of competitive men where there's a social expectation that everyone will behave in a certain way and nobody gets blamed for it: the rugby club is the stereotyped example where pranks are played and alcohol is abused, and a lot of people feed straight from school/university rugby into jobs in sales and finance where a similar competitive team spirit is encouraged. There's a widespread social assumption in Britain that if you're drunk you can behave horribly or outrageously, and you don't see this in other countries e.g. southern Europe.

To tackle it, the only option is to make clear at every stage that behaviour is wrong. This means tackling the "boys will be boys" sense that misbehaviour is ok with young boys; combatting problems in secondary schools (where bullying, sexual segregation, pranks, laddish culture, and sexual harassment are normalised); clamping down on arenas where this persists into adulthood such as student drinking clubs and certain sports teams; and then you can start to work on the workplace. There's been a lot of effort recently on ways to tackle things such as unconscious bias in the workplace through soft training and stuff, but without wider social change, the only thing that actually works is strict rules and disciplinary action.

And there's still a lot of media that normalises sexual harassment, alcohol abuse, and male misbehaviour. How to tackle that is trickier because most people don't really want censorship; hopefully it will become as unacceptable as blackface or other taboos. (There are also areas in female culture that need to be tackled, from the "mean girls" phenomenon at school to the idea that violence from men is normal, but I really don't know enough to talk about that.)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on May 01, 2021, 01:56:50 PM
You might say this Gary was a...LEGEND?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 01, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
I see Barrowman is trending on Twitter but unless people come forward to complain about his known cock behaviour, will he be pulled up?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 01, 2021, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on May 01, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
I see Barrowman is trending on Twitter but unless people come forward to complain about his known cock behaviour, will he be pulled up?

Pulled off, maybe.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Salty_fries on May 01, 2021, 02:58:13 PM
These attitudes begin early. Little boys love scaring girls and when the girls jump, get upset and feel distressed- they laugh. That's the fun of it, making that girl panic and feel fear and knowing that it was you who caused it. There's a brief rush of in this moment, when they're one with complete power over a scared girl. I think a lot of these men- like other posters have already said- don't outgrow this power trip, of always feeling comfortable and in control when around women. Noel Clark did all these disgusting things that frightened and demeaned women because he didn't see these woman as equals.

We haven't heard any stories of him bullying men, probably because he knows he'd get his balls kicked in (ditto with women who were his equals career-wise). The women he picked on were vulnerable and unable to say no because this man held the magic key to their dream career. The fact that this has been going on for decades show this guy knew exactly what he was doing, and any apology will be a load of fucking bollocks in my opinion.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 01, 2021, 03:03:35 PM
Well, he did have the strange feud with Adam Deacon, who claims Clarke ruined his career
https://www.bustle.com/entertainment/what-happened-between-noel-clarke-adam-deacon
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 01, 2021, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 01, 2021, 01:21:15 PM
Could it be something to do with the "civilising influence" that women supposedly have on groups of men?

It is weird that men often grow to hate women despite the fact that all men have mothers, isn't it? Simon Amstell did a bit about this, about how the C-word is used as an insult when it effectively means "the portal to life".

Not sure; the people I know that have been swayed by Peterson come from largely female family units; in fact part of this "loss of masculinity" is often put down to familial women emasculating men at a young age.  Most serial killers are often cited as having issues with "mother".  It's tricky because again there is this societal belief that maternal bonds are the most important facet in development we all know the saying "didn't your mother not raise/teach etc..."

Quote from: Salty_fries on May 01, 2021, 02:58:13 PM
Noel Clark did all these disgusting things that frightened and demeaned women because he didn't see these woman as equals.

We haven't heard any stories of him bullying men, probably because he knows he'd get his balls kicked in (ditto with women who were his equals career-wise). The women he picked on were vulnerable and unable to say no because this man held the magic key to their dream career. The fact that this has been going on for decades show this guy knew exactly what he was doing, and any apology will be a load of fucking bollocks in my opinion.

People in positions of power often abuse them; whether he thought other men were his equals has nothing to do with him acting on those thoughts; he thought he perhaps could get away with it and did have anything he wanted to extort from other men.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PaulTMA on May 01, 2021, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on May 01, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
I see Barrowman is trending on Twitter but unless people come forward to complain about his known cock behaviour, will he be pulled up?

It's bursting with tales of him rockin' with his cock out and acres of "he's an arsehole" stories
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: kaprisky on May 01, 2021, 03:34:15 PM
I went to the trouble of watching the final episode of Viewpoint. It took about 700-800mb of my data just to watch it on ITV Hub but despite the buffering managed to complete the programme. There was one bit of dialogue that went something like: this is unorthodox, this is against the rules, but we need you to do this - you can imagine him saying that (allegedly) to some poor female actor in his casting sessions.

Normally you would expect this to turn up on ITV3 in a couple of years time but it was produced in association with Unstoppable (his production company), so yeah, this is going to be buried for the foreseeable future. The subject matter, a professional peeping tom who has an inappropriate relationship with a woman despite being in a position of responsibility and power, may leave a sour taste given the allegations.

Oh, it was
Spoiler alert
the woman
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that did it. No,
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the other woman.
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Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 01, 2021, 03:46:33 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56956429 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56956429)

Police involved now.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 01, 2021, 04:27:21 PM
Quote from: PaulTMA on May 01, 2021, 01:13:28 PM
I remember Alex James saying proudly about Damien Hirst, "he's got this trick where he puts his foreskin in his zip fly and says to a woman, 'I've got some chewing gum stuck on my trousers, can you help me get it off'".  Creatively repugnant
Alex James continues to be as classy as ever, I see.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 01, 2021, 04:28:03 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 01, 2021, 01:23:22 PM
So, Noel Clarke,
You thought you were Bulletproof-
A member of the Millionaire's Club...

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LiNoBbR86F0/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 01, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
I'm the one you fondled, Noel Clarke. It was my pudenta you wiggled your lying snake-tongue at. Those were my breasts you grabbed and tried to milk. I hate you Noel Clarke. I hate every stinking, disgusting molecule of you.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/46B4KFFQ85E/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PaulTMA on May 01, 2021, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 01, 2021, 04:27:21 PM
Alex James continues to be as classy as ever, I see.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure if he was exactly "proud" of it, but he felt it necessary to mention it in an interview, as A Funny Thing.

Different times
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on May 01, 2021, 05:46:24 PM
Quote from: PaulTMA on May 01, 2021, 01:13:28 PM
I remember Alex James saying proudly about Damien Hirst, "he's got this trick where he puts his foreskin in his zip fly and says to a woman, 'I've got some chewing gum stuck on my trousers, can you help me get it off'".  Creatively repugnant

What is it with certain people exposing themselves? Like it's funniest thing ever to have a penis? I knew a guy who would always have his knob out in group photos. It gets to the point where it's actually just an obsession. Hopefully Keith Allen has been punched at least once for doing it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 01, 2021, 06:21:36 PM
I don't get it either, I don't go round exposing my flange to random people. Jamie Murphy (the ginger one from Space) was always getting his cock out too. I read a 1998 interview with them where the first paragraph was about him dropping trou at the journalist. Odd.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: C_Larence on May 01, 2021, 06:28:48 PM
Jonathan Ross is another, there's an episode of the Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington XFM show where he gets it out live on air iirc. I'm sure there's stories about Gervais doing it too.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on May 01, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 01, 2021, 06:28:48 PM
Jonathan Ross is another, there's an episode of the Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington XFM show where he gets it out live on air iirc. I'm sure there's stories about Gervais doing it too.

Indeed.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAVuUXMHWLc)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 01, 2021, 06:40:47 PM
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Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: turnstyle on May 01, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 01, 2021, 04:27:21 PM
Alex James continues to be as classy as ever, I see.

This is in no way relevant to Noel Clarke and his wandering hands/penis, but this clip of Alex James not being recognised is always enjoyable.

https://youtu.be/ogt8H5IhtqU (https://youtu.be/ogt8H5IhtqU)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 01, 2021, 07:09:03 PM
Also not relevant to Clarke, but: a friend used to work at a studio where they did pottery parties, and James and his family were cunts. The kids were horrible spoiled brats. They painted loads of mugs and expected them all to be glazed within a short period, before Christmas.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 01, 2021, 09:21:06 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-56956429.amp

To quote Martin Landau, 'shit just got real.'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on May 01, 2021, 11:01:04 PM
Doesn't make any sense, should be real just got shit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 02, 2021, 12:43:50 AM
Quote from: lipsink on April 30, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
I'm pretty sure it's not real. It just looks too 'acted'.

Quote from: neveragain on April 30, 2021, 01:50:06 PM
I'm glad you said that, the thought had crossed my mind.

Seems odd she quickly reverts to smiling and saying only 'I'm so pissed off at you right now', then hugging them both. You'd think she'd be practically hysterical with rage if she thought it was real. Also there were at least two people who just carried on filming her throughout which she apparently is fine with. So probably all in on it together, unless she's unusually compliant and thought it was best not to spoil the pricks' fun.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 02, 2021, 01:00:36 AM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 01, 2021, 06:28:48 PM
Jonathan Ross is another, there's an episode of the Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington XFM show where he gets it out live on air iirc. I'm sure there's stories about Gervais doing it too.

I vaguely remember Ross taking it out in front of the Spice Girls on his BBC chat show. This was well before Sachsgate obviously. Stood up and turned his back to the camera to do it, but judging from their reaction he wasn't faking. Could have been All Saints or Atomic Kitten, I'm not Memory Man.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 02, 2021, 01:46:17 AM
worst man in the world?

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1388377841088274433

sorry for twitter link and nothing else but I reckon the cunt deserves nothing more
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 07:24:33 AM
Of course Mr 'beating your wife is working-class culture' says this.

How many women will it take for people to believe Clarke is a sex pest?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 02, 2021, 07:48:00 AM
Aint tried it but someone was telling me about the supposed benefits of tannin/sulfite removers like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BR7ZLZZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Not entirely convinced, if you drink enough booze you're going to get a hangover and although wine can be more unforgiving if you push your luck I doubt this will work any miracles.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: olliebean on May 02, 2021, 08:54:00 AM
Absolutely brazen. How the fuck do people keep getting away with this sort of shit? "He's behaved totally inappropriately with our students - shall we take any action against him?" "Nah, just make sure there's someone else in the room with him in the future."

https://twitter.com/LSDA_Acting/status/1388244384626397184

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0QI5-kWEAEN9er?format=jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 02, 2021, 09:03:00 AM
Maybe we need to stop valuing these fucktards so highly in society I dont know.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 02, 2021, 09:07:28 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 02, 2021, 01:46:17 AM
worst man in the world?

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1388377841088274433

sorry for twitter link and nothing else but I reckon the cunt deserves nothing more

Fucking excrement. Replies are appalling.

See its woke to believe victims of sexual assault? Meanwhile our government agree. Fuck it all.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:40:13 AM
Once again, 'woke' has lost its meaning and now become 'anything I don't like'.

Aubergines are woke. Real Madrid are woke. Stubbing my toe is woke. Fuck sake.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on May 02, 2021, 10:43:52 AM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 02, 2021, 01:46:17 AM
worst man in the world?

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1388377841088274433

sorry for twitter link and nothing else but I reckon the cunt deserves nothing more


How's about this? https://twitter.com/alexrubner/status/1388109886718980097?s=19

Quote
I wonder if Noel Clarke has ever sexually harassed a transwoman.

And if not, why not, Mike?


Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:53:24 AM
He probably has. Can't these people shut up about trans for one minute?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 02, 2021, 10:55:28 AM
Oh god that weetman stan is one of the saddest people ever to make a small name for himself the internet, i have to agree (quite a task!)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 02, 2021, 11:59:38 AM
I personally think he has a point. Until proven guilty in a court of law it is simply a case of he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, London School of Dramatic Art said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said. We can't possibly know where the truth lies.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 02, 2021, 12:22:00 PM
From all these reports he does seem to think that getting undressed is an integral part of the acting process.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 02, 2021, 12:22:53 PM
Can he just say this decade plus of being a sexual predator is method acting or researching for a role?

I bet if Daniel Day Lewis molested someone he'd get away with it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Spiteface on May 02, 2021, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:40:13 AM
Once again, 'woke' has lost its meaning and now become 'anything I don't like'.

Aubergines are woke. Real Madrid are woke. Stubbing my toe is woke. Fuck sake.

Of course, they're all woke by the time...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: idunnosomename on May 02, 2021, 01:46:17 AM
worst man in the world?

https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1388377841088274433

sorry for twitter link and nothing else but I reckon the cunt deserves nothing more

I'm always suspicious of men who bang on about a supposed epidemic of false accusations and how no man is safe. Men who seem to be actively campaigning for a world where women are routinely disbelieved, prosecuting sex offenders is even more difficult than it is now, and it is even harder to to stop sexual harassment at work. It's as if this would be a world that would benefit them because they'd be the ones getting away with being creeps.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 01:10:01 PM
Donald Trump became President. Plenty of abusers still have work. Hollywood isn't that liberal. And how many people don't report rape because they're scared they won't be believed, or because of the stigma? Clarke will be fine.

Blue Jam, Embery has form for being a woman-hating piece of shit. He's the kind of person I mean when I say 'brocialist'.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Stoneage Dinosaurs on May 02, 2021, 02:28:25 PM
I think if false allegations really were rampant as a handy way to destroy a man's career, at least one person would have made one against Jeremy Corbyn
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 02:39:50 PM
Quote from: Angrew Lloyg Wegger on May 02, 2021, 02:28:25 PM
I think if false allegations really were rampant as a handy way to destroy a man's career, at least one person would have made one against Jeremy Corbyn

He was attacked by proxy over allegations of sexual misconduct (and an alleged rape) in the party I think you'll find.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 03:56:55 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 01:10:01 PM
Donald Trump became President.

...while women who made allegations against him have received death threats and gone into hiding:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-13-year-old-cancels-public-event

https://people.com/politics/alva-johnson-trump-accuser-in-hidding-after-lawsuit/

...and there have been plenty of high-profile sexual assault cases here in the UK where complainants have been "named and shamed" on social media and been sent death and rape threats.

QuotePlenty of abusers still have work. Hollywood isn't that liberal.

Mike Tyson still has an acting career and he's a convicted rapist. Roman Polanski is still busy despite being convicted of drugging and anally raping a 13-year-old girl.

It looks like a person making an accusation is more likely to have their life ruined than the person being accused.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 04:44:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 03:56:55 PM
Mike Tyson still has an acting career and he's a convicted rapist. Roman Polanski is still busy despite being convicted of drugging and anally raping a 13-year-old girl.

It looks like a person making an accusation is more likely to have their life ruined than the person being accused.

I know it is hardly the same thing as the actual crime but from a legal "was it worth it" perspective Tyson was convicted and went to prison and Polanski's (that whole case and court proceedings  is just a complete headfuck btw) victim received damages in excess of £600k[nb]which he didn't pay all at the time and had to be sued again[/nb], he was then on the run from Interpol, still is, and he was later kicked out of the academy due to protests after the Weinstein stuff (something his victim actually criticised saying  "very opportunistic....If you want to change the world today, you do it by... demanding people be held accountable today, not by picking someone who is famous and thinking that if you demonise him for things that happened decades ago that somehow that has any value in protecting people and changing society"). Polanski's victim has been very vocal several times on how the media and the judges involved in the case (I know it is bizarre but look it up) were the real villains as they wanted to create a show about all of what happened rather than just stick to the law (this is something I think to do with the judge accepting a plea bargain; then allegedly thinking that it would be more entertaining or whatever to give Polanski a 50 year sentence - it's all really wild I'm still not 100% clear on all of this I just remember reading about it all and thinking wtf?!).  Take a look at this interview where Samantha Geimer (his now adult 13yr old victim) calls out everyones favourite Guardian Journo Hadley Freeman for exaggerating and overplaying her testimony and account of what happened https://quillette.com/2018/01/31/nobodys-victim-interview-samantha-geimer/ (https://quillette.com/2018/01/31/nobodys-victim-interview-samantha-geimer/)

Just saying in these cases at least the accusers benefitted going through with their accusations.  Their lives were no more ruined by doing this than obviously being victims in the first place (well weirdly with Polanski it was a load of stuff unrelated to the accused that caused the problems). 

Of course that doesn't answer the question why either them still have careers; but then lots of former convicts return to work unless they were working in prescribed industries (working with minors etc..).  I doesn't sit right does it; but this seems something quite unique to the entertainment arts (same arguments applied to Ched Evans and football).  The law as it stands is that once presumed rehabilitated then ex cons should have the same rights as anyone else; but are barred from some professions due to risk to others; without there being a risk to others then really we are talking about extra-judicial and post-sentence punishments which is something we've generally frowned upon from a rehabilitation viewpoint.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 02, 2021, 11:59:38 AM
I personally think he has a point. Until proven guilty in a court of law it is simply a case of he said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, London School of Dramatic Art said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said, she said. We can't possibly know where the truth lies.
The importance of due process vs McCarthyism...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 05:25:54 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 03:56:55 PM
...while women who made allegations against him have received death threats and gone into hiding:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/02/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-13-year-old-cancels-public-event

https://people.com/politics/alva-johnson-trump-accuser-in-hidding-after-lawsuit/

...and there have been plenty of high-profile sexual assault cases here in the UK where complainants have been "named and shamed" on social media and been sent death and rape threats.

Mike Tyson still has an acting career and he's a convicted rapist. Roman Polanski is still busy despite being convicted of drugging and anally raping a 13-year-old girl.

It looks like a person making an accusation is more likely to have their life ruined than the person being accused.
Ched Evans was one, the woman in the case got death threats and had to move house. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo's accuser. Heaven help any woman who gets raped by a footballer, frankly. Because nobody will believe her.

Also, multiple assault accusations from multiple women is McCarthyism?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on May 02, 2021, 05:45:02 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 05:25:54 PM
Also, multiple assault accusations from multiple women is McCarthyism?

I think the meaning was that he's just being presumed guilty rather than presumed innocent until conviction. I can't see the direct connection to calling it McCartheist though.

Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 03:56:55 PM
Mike Tyson still has an acting career and he's a convicted rapist. Roman Polanski is still busy despite being convicted of drugging and anally raping a 13-year-old girl.

It looks like a person making an accusation is more likely to have their life ruined than the person being accused.

Very true, but, playing Devil's Advocate here, could you say that Mike Tyson has served his sentance for rape and that should count for something?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 05:57:04 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 05:25:54 PM
Ched Evans was one, the woman in the case got death threats and had to move house. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo's accuser. Heaven help any woman who gets raped by a footballer, frankly. Because nobody will believe her.

Sorry to point this out but again Ched Evans went to jail and subsequently lost a contract with Oldman Athletic (and several others) due to death threats being sent to club officials and sponsers (well that and the big public outcry about it) his victim was granted anonymity so it has never been made public who she is; well another person (his Evans cousin) named her on Twitter saying that she did so because she believed her cousin innocent and was duly charged with publishing material likely to lead members of the public to identify the complainant in a rape case.

I can't stand Ched Evans but I'm not sure making out there were no serious consequences for the accused and no-one believed the accuser (while the opposite is quite true in this case as most people loathe Ched Evans and believe his victim) does much to encourage other victims to come forward.

A good piece on this case was done by the secret barrister for those interested
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/ (https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/)

I think the issue is what is a sufficient lasting punishment that people want; which is tricky as mentioned in my other post do we want punishments to go beyond judicial sentences?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on May 02, 2021, 05:58:10 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 04:52:21 PM
The importance of due process vs McCarthyism...

try to think this through a bit


the thing with Polanski is that he's raped other women (allegedly) but still get subventions from the french state to make his films.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: Alberon on May 02, 2021, 05:45:02 PM
I think the meaning was that he's just being presumed guilty rather than presumed innocent until conviction. I can't see the direct connection to calling it McCartheist though.

I think the real worry should be anything that might give Clarke the ability to say his trial was prejudiced ala Tommy Robinson trying his best to get some other sex offenders off the hook.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: worldsgreatestsinner on May 02, 2021, 06:03:25 PM
Quote from: JaDanketies on May 02, 2021, 10:43:52 AM

How's about this? https://twitter.com/alexrubner/status/1388109886718980097?s=19

I saw one tweet yesterday about Barrowman that said something like "John Barrowman, who campaigns for the transgender charity Mermaids, thinks it's funny to expose himself to women." They're obsessed and they're arseholes.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 06:07:11 PM
Quote from: chveik on May 02, 2021, 05:58:10 PM
try to think this through a bit


the thing with Polanski is that he's raped other women (allegedly) but still get subventions from the french state to make his films.
Then change the law. Law is terribly important, don't you think? I prefer it to the baying mob.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:07:45 PM
Quote from: chveik on May 02, 2021, 05:58:10 PM
the thing with Polanski is that he's raped other women (allegedly) but still get subventions from the french state to make his films.

Sure (though doesn't detract from the case Blue Jam was referring too); these cases have not gone to trial though have they? Is there any information why this might be? He surely can be arrested by Europol if he is in Europe?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on May 02, 2021, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:07:45 PM
Sure (though doesn't detract from the case Blue Jam was referring too); these cases have not gone to trial though have they? Is there any information why this might be? He surely can be arrested by Europol if he is in Europe?

there are 11 other (mostly) underage women (!) but since it happened 40 years ago there is some sort of prescription, which means it's not very likely a trial will happen. he's a fucking scum
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: chveik on May 02, 2021, 06:11:48 PM
he's a fucking scum

No doubt; but his original victims views on her trial and case still have value.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 06:39:37 PM
One important thing about the Ched Evans case, which wasn't reported much during the original trial but was mentioned in the press a bit more during the retrial, was that the woman involved didn't actually press the charges (or have the opportunity to drop them) and never actually accused anyone of anything: the police pressed the charges and she only ever said she had no memory of events. Still had to be given several new identities after people kept outing her, and I believe she moved to Ireland and then to Australia to escape the abuse. She also had a boyfriend leave her after she confided that she was the woman in the case. She's still been labelled a false accuser and had her life ruined when all she did was go to the police to report a missing handbag.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 06:42:45 PM
Did not know that and that makes it even worse.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Spiteface on May 02, 2021, 06:45:07 PM
His name is Ched and that's enough by itself.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:49:16 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 06:39:37 PM
One important thing about the Ched Evans case, which wasn't reported much during the original trial but was mentioned in the press a bit more during the retrial, was that the woman involved didn't actually press the charges (or have the opportunity to drop them) and never actually accused anyone of anything: the police pressed the charges and she only ever said she had no memory of events. Still had to be given several new identities after people kept outing her, and I believe she moved to Ireland and then to Australia to escape the abuse. She also had a boyfriend leave her after she confided that she was the woman in the case. She's still been labelled a false accuser and had her life ruined when all she did was go to the police to report a missing handbag.

I also never knew this part of the story; is this the original case with the other man involved? have you got a link to where this information is? would be interested to have a read (obviously not doubting it for a second).
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 07:57:46 PM
Btw apologies Kankurette, I didn't know what Blue Jam just posted and that the woman in question had had to leave the country (twice!) so my comment that this was quite the opposite (I knew about the cousin thing but I thought her anonymity had largely been maintained) was not correct and ill judged.  Apologies.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Harry Badger on May 02, 2021, 08:02:51 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 05:57:04 PM
Sorry to point this out but again Ched Evans went to jail and subsequently lost a contract with Oldman Athletic

Mind, he could have been given a contract with Oldham Athletic, but that may have been considered cruel and unusual punishment.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: Harry Badger on May 02, 2021, 08:02:51 PM
Mind, he could have been given a contract with Oldham Athletic, but that may have been considered cruel and unusual punishment.

You're not wrong Clive
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 08:36:51 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 06:49:16 PM
I also never knew this part of the story; is this the original case with the other man involved? have you got a link to where this information is? would be interested to have a read (obviously not doubting it for a second).

There's a mention of the "no memory of events" thing here:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/

I can't find a good summary now, but it was my understanding that the woman went to a police station solely about her handbag being missing, and because she mentioned waking up in a hotel room naked and with no memory of how she got there they were obliged to put a note on file. Then later that day Ched Evans reported a lost phone and mentioned being at the same hotel at the same time and police put two and two together and possibly came up with five.

My personal opinion is that while there was a lot of evidence to suggest that all those involved were in fact at the hotel that night, there probably still wasn't quite enough for this to go to trial, and bringing it to trial was a mistake and probably not what the woman involved wanted.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 02, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
This was posted by Clarke's Kidulthood co-star Jaime Winstone before The Guardian story broke, I think. Appears to be her referring to his Outstanding Contribution BAFTA.

(https://i.imgur.com/uzZFqWf.png)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:54:51 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 08:36:51 PM
There's a mention of the "no memory of events" thing here:

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2016/10/14/10-myths-busted-about-the-ched-evans-case/

I can't find a good summary now, but it was my understanding that the woman went to a police station solely about her handbag being missing, and because she mentioned waking up in a hotel room naked and with no memory of how she got there they were obliged to put a note on file. Then later that day Ched Evans reported a lost phone and mentioned being at the same hotel at the same time and police put two and two together and possibly came up with five.

My personal opinion is that while there was a lot of evidence to suggest that all those involved were in fact at the hotel that night, there probably still wasn't quite enough for this to go to trial, and bringing it to trial was a mistake and probably not what the woman involved wanted.

It makes sense; the secret barristers blog says that this was also a case of crown prosecution vs defendant.  If I remember correctly there was a whole thing about Evans entering the hotel via an outside stairwell and window which is dodgy if we consider he was premeditatedly trying to obscure the fact he was there via cctv footage.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
Quote from: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 02, 2021, 08:44:47 PM
This was posted by Clarke's Kidulthood co-star Jaime Winstone before The Guardian story broke, I think. Appears to be her referring to his Outstanding Contribution BAFTA.

Can I just admit something here.

I have no idea who Noel Clarke is (or Paul Embry for that matter); what has Daniel Kaluuya got to do with it all?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Noodle Lizard on May 02, 2021, 09:02:27 PM
Yeah, what's that all about? I don't even think they've worked together, far as I know.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:54:51 PM
It makes sense; the secret barristers blog says that this was also a case of crown prosecution vs defendant.  If I remember correctly there was a whole thing about Evans entering the hotel via an outside stairwell and window which is dodgy if we consider he was premeditatedly trying to obscure the fact he was there via cctv footage.

I think there was CCTV footage showing him leaving via a fire escape. Could have been because he was furtively escaping the scene of a rape, could have been because he simply didn't want his girlfriend finding out he'd had a threesome with his mate and a random woman. Who knows...

Really I just have to wonder why his girlfriend's dad was so supportive of him and stumped up so much cash for lawyers and private detectives. I doubt I would have done that for someone who may well have been innocent of rape but who still admitted to having cheated on my daughter the second the opportunity presented itself.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 09:11:49 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:03:47 PM
Really I just have to wonder why his girlfriend's dad was so supportive of him and stumped up so much cash for lawyers and private detectives. I doubt I would have done that for someone who may well have been innocent of rape but who still admitted to having cheated on my daughter the second the opportunity presented itself.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.irjYJGZDRgEKgxvePSq8bgHaE8%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

"Mr Massey, what was it that first made you think about protecting the millionaire footballer your daughter was about to marry from charges of cheating on your daughter and possible rape?"
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
Evans' girlfriend wasn't your stereotypical gold-digging WAG- I think her dad owned a chain of high-end jewellers or something, and I remember him saying he'd give Evans a job if his football career was over. I think she was quite possibly even wealthier than him! Hence why it was her family paying for the legal team rather than his.

(I followed this case quite closely, it really affected me)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 09:24:57 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
Evans' girlfriend wasn't your stereotypical gold-digging WAG- I think her dad owned a chain of high-end jewellers or something, and I remember him saying he'd give Evans a job if his football career was over. I think she was quite possibly even wealthier than him!

(I followed this case quite closely, it really affected me)

but I went and found a picture of Mrs Merton and everything........



but seriously, again I bow down to your superior knowledge here BJ that is weird.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 09:27:23 PM
Well see them in court. I mean twitter.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 09:34:53 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
Hence why it was her family paying for the legal team rather than his.

Just checked he got 600k payout from Sheff United; where he as getting paid 3k a week; so again makes sense; I thought he would have been getting paid more but I remember now they were just in the process of getting promoted to the premiership and were still in the championship at that point.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 09:35:49 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 09:27:23 PM
Well see them in court. I mean twitter.

Serious question; you don't really believe anyone is advocating putting innocent people in jail are you?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 02, 2021, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
what has Daniel Kaluuya got to do with it all?
Quote from: Noodle Lizard on May 02, 2021, 09:02:27 PM
Yeah, what's that all about? I don't even think they've worked together, far as I know.

Clarke's BAFTA was for Outstanding Contribution to Cinema, so Winstone (who has spoken out against Clarke) saying about Kaluuya's Oscar "Now that's what you call OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION TO FILM" seemed to be a deliberately loaded putdown of Clarke.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 09:46:50 PM
Trenter- I'll admit I got a bit obsessed with that case and let it upset me a bit too much, being a raging feminist and all.

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 09:35:49 PM
Serious question; you don't really believe anyone is advocating putting innocent people in jail are you?

I have noticed a lot of commentary about "trial by media" and people suggesting that the police should handle the Noel Clarke case and no-one else. I think a lot of people are struggling to tell the difference criminal activity and workplace harassment. The latter isn't necessarily a police matter and is something that is (quite rightly) usually handled by an employer, trade body etc. So yes, BAFTA suspending a member and colleagues of Clarke warning others that he's a creep seems appropriate.

Especially as it seems the case of the naked audition being filmed actually was reported to police but no charge could be made as it wasn't a criminal offence at the time:

https://metro.co.uk/2021/05/02/noel-clarke-accuser-called-cops-on-star-but-they-couldnt-investigate-14507934/
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 09:59:35 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 02, 2021, 08:57:17 PM
Can I just admit something here.

I have no idea who Noel Clarke is (or Paul Embry for that matter); what has Daniel Kaluuya got to do with it all?
Noel Clarke was Mickey in Doctor Who (Christopher Eccleston era) and was also in Kidulthood. He's currently in a drama called Viewpoint. Paul Embery is some cunt who's into hardcore class reductionism and thinks people who are angry with Geoff Boycott beating his wife just don't understand northern working-class culture.

Blue Jam, I followed it as well and it really upset me. As for people who think Clarke is the innocent victim of a witch hunt, all I can say is there's an awful lot of people coming forward.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 02, 2021, 10:01:50 PM
For some reason I always assumed Evans's girlfriend stuck with him because if he got through it all and resumed his career, she stood to become a proper WAG, hang out with Posh and Coleen and Rebecca and so forth. You know, actual fame; without the potential famous footballer partner, she was just another pretty girl with a rich daddy.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 10:05:54 PM
Should social media influencers determine quantum (and without any form of due process to boot)? Is complete ruination for sub-criminal harassment justified, for example? When does that become grossly disproportionate, and hence harassment of a different kind? Who decides- the twitter mob? What is the modern role of company HR and legal departments, and indeed the justice system itself, if they mostly no longer matter? When would you consider this situation lawless and anarchistic?

IMO the summary execution nature of the current environment for sub-criminal behaviour is troubling, however much net good it may, or may not, do. As regards criminal, it could prevent as many convictions as it promotes.

Personally, I don't like mob rule.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:06:10 PM
Plenty of footballers' girlfriends and wives do do that, no matter how shitty their partners are. The Secret Footballer talks about how one woman came home to find her footballer husband fucking some other woman and just carried on like nothing had happened, and Rooney cheated multiple times, as did Maradona and Ferdinand (which is why I find his whole grieving father shtik a bit confusing considering how many women he was fucking behind Rebecca's back), but their wives stayed with them. So many of them have had work done and live in these immaculate homes and they're scared their partners will leave them, and even the young ones get cheated on. Loads of my favourite players are cheats. Neville Southall and Matt Le Tissier to name but two, and they're both married to the women they cheated on their wives with. I'd never marry a footballer because I'd be too paranoid.

And let's not even get into abusive twats like Best, Maradona, Shilton and Gazza.

Pinball, why are you defending Clarke? Why do you think he's innocent? How many women have to come forward before you believe them and not insist he's the real victim? I'm not even on Twitter much these days, for fuck's sake.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 10:11:20 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:06:10 PM
Pinball, why are you defending Clarke? Why do you think he's innocent? How many women have to come forward before you believe them and not insist he's the real victim? I'm not even on Twitter much these days, for fuck's sake.
I am definitely not defending him. I'm genuinely concerned about the broader issues is all. And it's a difficult one, as change doesn't happen without some form of mass action, of course, yet I'd like to see rule of law rather than mob rule/disproportionate ruination of accusees.

What if there's a mis-trial because it's considered Clarke couldn't get a fair trial now? This means he would go free. Then case law may apply this to all such cases. So you see, I hope, I'm not defending him. This whole social media circus over the last few years could royally backfire, even to the point of bans vs social media platforms themselves. Laws are likely to change, because asking a mob to be ruly doesn't usually work...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 02, 2021, 10:25:40 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 10:11:20 PM
What if there's a mis-trial because it's considered Clarke couldn't get a fair trial now?

It's a valid point and could apply to the Derek Chauvin appeal also.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:28:10 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 02, 2021, 10:11:20 PM
I am definitely not defending him. I'm genuinely concerned about the broader issues is all. And it's a difficult one, as change doesn't happen without some form of mass action, of course, yet I'd like to see rule of law rather than mob rule/disproportionate ruination of accusees.

What if there's a mis-trial because it's considered Clarke couldn't get a fair trial now? This means he would go free. Then case law may apply this to all such cases. So you see, I hope, I'm not defending him. This whole social media circus over the last few years could royally backfire, even to the point of bans vs social media platforms themselves. Laws are likely to change, because asking a mob to be ruly doesn't usually work...
OK, fair dos. I just get twitchy when this sort of thing comes up in the press because any woman who accuses a famous man of rape/abuse is accused herself of starting a witch hunt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 02, 2021, 10:43:42 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:06:10 PM
Plenty of footballers' girlfriends and wives do do that, no matter how shitty their partners are. The Secret Footballer talks about how one woman came home to find her footballer husband fucking some other woman and just carried on like nothing had happened, and Rooney cheated multiple times, as did Maradona and Ferdinand (which is why I find his whole grieving father shtik a bit confusing considering how many women he was fucking behind Rebecca's back), but their wives stayed with them. So many of them have had work done and live in these immaculate homes and they're scared their partners will leave them, and even the young ones get cheated on. Loads of my favourite players are cheats. Neville Southall and Matt Le Tissier to name but two, and they're both married to the women they cheated on their wives with. I'd never marry a footballer because I'd be too paranoid.

Which is what makes me think that if Wills's extramarital shenanigans somehow ever manage to hit the U.K. press despite the Royal machine doing its best to stop it, Kate will stick with him. After all, if she sucks it up she gets to be queen one day; otherwise she's just another ex-wife who's provided the heirs and we all know what happened to the last one in that situation.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gambrinus on May 02, 2021, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 02, 2021, 10:06:10 PM
Plenty of footballers' girlfriends and wives do do that, no matter how shitty their partners are. The Secret Footballer talks about how one woman came home to find her footballer husband fucking some other woman and just carried on like nothing had happened, and Rooney cheated multiple times, as did Maradona and Ferdinand (which is why I find his whole grieving father shtik a bit confusing considering how many women he was fucking behind Rebecca's back), but their wives stayed with them. So many of them have had work done and live in these immaculate homes and they're scared their partners will leave them, and even the young ones get cheated on. Loads of my favourite players are cheats. Neville Southall and Matt Le Tissier to name but two, and they're both married to the women they cheated on their wives with. I'd never marry a footballer because I'd be too paranoid.

And let's not even get into abusive twats like Best, Maradona, Shilton and Gazza.

Pinball, why are you defending Clarke? Why do you think he's innocent? How many women have to come forward before you believe them and not insist he's the real victim? I'm not even on Twitter much these days, for fuck's sake.

Big Nev? Say it ain't so!

I used to model myself on him growing up and fancying myself as a goalkeeper.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 02, 2021, 11:17:11 PM
Quote from: mothman on May 02, 2021, 10:43:42 PM
Which is what makes me think that if Wills's extramarital shenanigans somehow ever manage to hit the U.K. press despite the Royal machine doing its best to stop it, Kate will stick with him. After all, if she sucks it up she gets to be queen one day; otherwise she's just another ex-wife who's provided the heirs and we all know what happened to the last one in that situation.

To be fair Kate was pretty much groomed to be Wills' wife from birth- and what else could she do? Get a job at her brother's doomed marshmallow printworks? Nope, I think she (or at least her mother) knew what the deal was and still really wanted it and now she's got it she can't complain and just has to suck it up as you say.

Colleen Rooney is an interesting one, also not your stereotypical WAG. Wasn't she Wayne's childhood sweetheart- ie, with him long before he was famous? It must be hard to walk away from that.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 03, 2021, 12:16:00 AM
Likewise Rebekah Vardy, when she shacked up with Jamie she could hardly have known Leicester would get into the Premier League let alone win it. Not that I know if Jamie plays away from home. But the whole feud with Colleen, that's a very rum affair.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 03, 2021, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: Gambrinus on May 02, 2021, 10:59:49 PM
Big Nev? Say it ain't so!

I used to model myself on him growing up and fancying myself as a goalkeeper.
I love him too, he's my all time Everton fave next to Kevin Campbell. The guy sued his daughter for his medals as well. I mean, suing your own kid is a bit harsh.

Rooney and Colleen were together when he was at Everton the first time around. She was still at school.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jittlebags on May 03, 2021, 12:55:12 AM
Blimey. He likes to play both red and purple sides of the spectrum then.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 03, 2021, 01:18:20 AM
Quote from: Alberon on May 02, 2021, 05:45:02 PMI think the meaning was that he's just being presumed guilty rather than presumed innocent until conviction. I can't see the direct connection to calling it McCartheist though.

Presumably because during the McCarthy hearings (which I wouldn't claim to be an expert on) they brought along a whole load of dodgy paid-off witnesses to stand there, point, and say "Oh yes, he was definitely a communist, I heard him say so."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on May 03, 2021, 01:27:04 AM
mccarthyism was state-sanctionned. it has fuck all to do with these accusations.

Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 03, 2021, 01:37:18 AM
I think McCarthyism may be used in the same way as Orwellian sometimes, eh?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on May 03, 2021, 01:42:04 AM
yeah, tedious right-wing punditry clichés.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bronzy on May 03, 2021, 01:46:11 AM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/RdYsOsy3S0rte/200.gif)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 03, 2021, 03:09:53 AM
Quote from: chveik on May 03, 2021, 01:27:04 AM
mccarthyism was state-sanctionned. it has fuck all to do with these accusations.

Quite.

I was merely attempting to explain to a puzzled Alberon why I thought Pinball might be using that term (and apologies to both if I guessed wrong), nothing more.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 03, 2021, 07:54:41 AM
Quote from: Bronzy on May 03, 2021, 01:46:11 AM
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/RdYsOsy3S0rte/200.gif)

(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SardonicSizzlingIvorybilledwoodpecker-max-1mb.gif)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on May 03, 2021, 09:01:47 AM
Quote from: mothman on May 02, 2021, 10:43:42 PM
Which is what makes me think that if Wills's extramarital shenanigans somehow ever manage to hit the U.K. press despite the Royal machine doing its best to stop it, Kate will stick with him. After all, if she sucks it up she gets to be queen one day; otherwise she's just another ex-wife who's provided the heirs and we all know what happened to the last one in that situation.

It makes you wonder if William is worried about Harry & Meghan spilling the beans on his "affairs" now that they've left the royal firm and that's why he's pissed off with Harry.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 03, 2021, 09:07:09 AM
What "affairs"? Is it common knowledge that Wills is shaggin' about? (News to me.)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on May 03, 2021, 09:11:17 AM
https://www.newidea.com.au/prince-william-affair-what-happened

Could be this?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dayraven on May 03, 2021, 09:47:32 AM
Quote from: steve98 on May 03, 2021, 09:07:09 AM
Is it common knowledge that Wills is shaggin' about?
Yes, but not if you're in the UK.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Darles Chickens on May 03, 2021, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: Natnar on May 03, 2021, 09:11:17 AM
https://www.newidea.com.au/prince-william-affair-what-happened

Could be this?

Does it count as an affair if it's basically the same person?

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Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Inspector Norse on May 03, 2021, 09:49:51 AM
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Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 03, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: Darles Chickens on May 03, 2021, 09:48:54 AM
Does it count as an affair if it's basically the same person?

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She - "The Marchioness of Cholmondeley," no less - is much more equine-like than our Kate, and it's well know that Royal males do not have flings* with horse-like women.

*They don't normally marry them either (Sarah Ferguson and paedo Andy being the exception.)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 03, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
At first glance, I thought the woman on the left was plastered with tattoos and thought, "Tattoos are officially dead." I made a similar snap declaration before when the male mannequins in M&S started sporting beards or when The Sun used to run their 'How To Be A Mod/ Rude Boy/ Punk' articles.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: checkoutgirl on May 03, 2021, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: C_Larence on May 01, 2021, 06:28:48 PM
I'm sure there's stories about Gervais doing it too.

Answered the door to Karl with his knob out. This even made it as far as the animated series I'm sure.

People who get their knob out are usually contemptible. Keith Allen, Jonathan Ross, Ricky Gervais, I loathe them all.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: BeardFaceMan on May 03, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Billy Connolly used to talk on stage about doing The Last Chicken In Sainsburys when he was young, at least he seemed to be embarrassed about it though.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on May 03, 2021, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on May 03, 2021, 11:18:32 AM
Answered the door to Karl with his knob out. This even made it as far as the animated series I'm sure.

People who get their knob out are usually contemptible. Keith Allen, Jonathan Ross, Ricky Gervais, I loathe them all.
It seems the nation's favourite domestic violence enthusiast is a fan as well : https://twitter.com/franticplanet/status/1224271113691258880/photo/1
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jockice on May 03, 2021, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: checkoutgirl on May 03, 2021, 11:18:32 AM
Answered the door to Karl with his knob out. This even made it as far as the animated series I'm sure.

People who get their knob out are usually contemptible. Keith Allen, Jonathan Ross, Ricky Gervais, I loathe them all.

Chris Evans too. The my alleged lookalike one.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 03, 2021, 12:20:11 PM
Isn't it a bit weird how this thread and the Onlyfans thread have converged on people getting their willies out?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 03, 2021, 01:49:13 PM
"CaB: top 1% of content creators for threads about people getting their willies out."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: pigamus on May 03, 2021, 02:10:59 PM
And you wonder why more people with their willies out don't post here
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 03, 2021, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 03, 2021, 02:10:59 PM
And you wonder why more people with their willies out don't post here

I don't think it would be possible for even more people like that post on here.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Rich Uncle Skeleton on May 03, 2021, 03:43:14 PM
Yeah I thought CaB stood for Cocks Always Bare where am I going to post now??
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 03, 2021, 03:46:12 PM
CaB- the Cocks and Balls forum.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 03, 2021, 06:28:26 PM
Quote from: BeardFaceMan on May 03, 2021, 11:57:22 AM
Billy Connolly used to talk on stage about doing The Last Chicken In Sainsburys when he was young, at least he seemed to be embarrassed about it though.

He wasn't embarrassed about streaking across Piccadilly Circus on live telly in 2001 for Comic Relief.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 03, 2021, 06:58:00 PM
Classic CaB action.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jasha on May 03, 2021, 07:22:03 PM
Quote from: steve98 on May 03, 2021, 10:00:29 AM
She - "The Marchioness of Cholmondeley," no less - is much more equine-like than our Kate, and it's well know that Royal males do not have flings* with horse-like women.

That's a Harry Enfield character shurely
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 03, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
Our Cartoon Royal Family.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on May 04, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on May 03, 2021, 06:28:26 PM
He wasn't embarrassed about streaking across Piccadilly Circus on live telly in 2001 for Comic Relief.

Is there a qualitative difference between streaking - or indeed being totally nude generally - with just getting one's knob out? Streaking isn't usually seen as sexually aggressive, is it?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 04, 2021, 11:32:49 AM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on May 04, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Is there a qualitative difference between streaking - or indeed being totally nude generally - with just getting one's knob out? Streaking isn't usually seen as sexually aggressive, is it?

Depends, if the ol' fella is ready for action then it might be.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Lord Mandrake on May 04, 2021, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on May 04, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Is there a qualitative difference between streaking - or indeed being totally nude generally - with just getting one's knob out? Streaking isn't usually seen as sexually aggressive, is it?

Fully nude isn't rude
Limp cock out, knockabout
Hard rod showing, prison going
Cock and socks, in the stocks
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 02:51:53 PM
Can I just say having lived for 5 years in the UK's PREMIER stag and hen do resort and longtime holder of Booze Britain's award for best Blind-d-date S4Cs theme park (Bournemouth) getting flashed by women off their moffs on 20 strawpeedos was quite a common occurrence.  Only boobs mind, which makes me wonder about the logistics and impact of flashing your muff compared to dangling your apparatus out your flies in low pressure sodium lighting.

I once had "The Stag & Hen" bus, a needlessly double decker bus regularly crammed with hand-reared wankers from the South coast Laandan[nb]corrected for accuracy[/nb] pull over to me on a Saturday night; open the doors and have three women screech in unison "Get your cock out!" (reader I didn't; sodium orange is not a flattering shade for me).  A drive by grotting if you will.  Bournemouth is basically set up to operate like this; a lot of bars provide the sexually aggressive (and loud) atmosphere  to get people lively and stimulated so they can sell more booze; you'll hear very little complaints from the men and women there (they are all smashed) and there is a really toxic mix between the stag and hen crowds with those that are not "eventing"; and a snowballing of "having it large bey!" occurring (btw you'll rarely meet anyone actually from Bournemouth on a night out they know to keep well away) and every night on season becoming party night (pew-pew-peeeeew party horn noise!).

I've seen some staggering stuff on those streets (I mean years ago, I don't know what the craic is now but at one stage it proudly twinned itself with Laganas ffs) I wouldn't recommend it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
As a Bournemouth/Poole resident for 40 years, I concur. The last place I want to be of a Friday night is Bournemouth town centre.

The council are already under fire for approving pop-up stalls selling booze on the prom this summer as an influx of tourists who can't get to Ibiza and Magaluf descend upon us. It's going to be utterly fucking wretched.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 04, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 02:51:53 PMCan I just say having lived for 5 years in the UK's PREMIER stag and hen do resort [...] (Bournemouth)

Blackpool's on the phone, shurely?


Still, never knew all that about Bournemouth.  Awful shit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: badaids on May 04, 2021, 03:13:56 PM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on May 04, 2021, 11:30:25 AM
Is there a qualitative difference between streaking - or indeed being totally nude generally - with just getting one's knob out? Streaking isn't usually seen as sexually aggressive, is it?

If he had his cock out; yes.
If he had his willy out; no.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 04, 2021, 03:14:43 PM
I once went to Bournemouth on a stag do but my cock stayed firmly in my trousers. Apart from when I needed to piss and this was in the designated areas. Thank you.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 04, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
Still, never knew all that about Bournemouth.  Awful shit.

Bournemouth and that area is naturally beautiful and people actually local to Bournemouth are by and large really nice; it's just Friday/Saturday nights in the town centre - don't let this put you of going there; you can find nice spots up and down from the main pier on the beach which keeps you well out the way of the tourists.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 04:12:39 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2021, 03:05:24 PM
As a Bournemouth/Poole resident for 40 years, I concur. The last place I want to be of a Friday night is Bournemouth town centre.

hehe I used to work at Liverpool Victoria and I'll always remember the Christmas Party booking team getting the long list out of places they'd been told to never come back too.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 04, 2021, 04:36:03 PM
The title had me thinking the thread was about football scribe Nigel Clarke. Glad to be corrected.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 04, 2021, 04:51:55 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
people actually local to Bournemouth are by and large really nice

Cheers

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
You can find nice spots up and down from the main pier on the beach which keeps you well out the way of the tourists.

There's spots between Southbourne and Hengistbury Head that are almost deserted, even at the height of summer or head to Sandbanks and walk back towards Bournemouth for five minutes and it's pretty empty.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 04, 2021, 04:51:55 PM
There's spots between Southbourne and Hengistbury Head that are almost deserted, even at the height of summer or head to Sandbanks and walk back towards Bournemouth for five minutes and it's pretty empty.

I know exactly where you mean! My usual spot was straight down the from the zig zag at East Cliff (it's me, I'm Cathy!) as I used to live on Northcote Road so it was very convenient and I was usually to lazy to walk up there.  It's a beautiful place; I miss it loads but my partner is originally from there so I'm still back there quite often.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 04, 2021, 05:25:38 PM
Yeah, there's relatively quiet bits due to the lack of easily available food and drink, something the aforementioned vendors are hoping to address.

Personally, I like to visit the beaches out of town. Milford on Sea and Lymington are good to the east, Bridport, Ringstead, Osmington, Kimmeridge and Chesil beach to the west. Pebble beaches and no serious tourist attractions beyond the occasional fish and chip place or pub. Keeps the shitheads out. Lovely.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Endicott on May 04, 2021, 05:45:35 PM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 04, 2021, 03:13:15 PM
Still, never knew all that about Bournemouth.  Awful shit.

I was there once about 12 years ago. Wall to wall puking in the street[nb]until I came home hahahaha[/nb].

Brighton, near the pier where the big clubs are, is similar, maybe not quite so bad. My mate lived in Hove so we would always be heading out of Brighton on a pub crawl back to Hove after about 7pm.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on May 04, 2021, 05:56:25 PM
Quote from: Lord Mandrake on May 04, 2021, 02:04:52 PM
Fully nude isn't rude
Limp cock out, knockabout
Hard rod showing, prison going
Cock and socks, in the stocks

I remember that from Brian Cant's last Play Away.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Quote from: Endicott on May 04, 2021, 05:45:35 PM
I was there once about 12 years ago. Wall to wall puking in the street[nb]until I came home hahahaha[/nb].

Turning into a bit of Bournemouth chat but those from there or interested in this should watch the horror film "K-Shop"; it's actually a pretty decent film and a modern spin on Sweeney Todd.....with kebabs and racism.   However more than that it is set in something-on sea (Bournemouth) and is a social commentary on the place; the villain is a pwopa lad who is buying and converting all of the towns heritage building into degenerate mega clubs (it's got the Old Fire Station in it as the main club - oh how art mimics life) anyway check it out it's good in lots of ways and you'll be able to work out which chippy it is all filmed in.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/k_shop (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/k_shop)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Famous Mortimer on May 04, 2021, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Turning into a bit of Bournemouth chat
Yes, by you. Congrats on diverting another thread.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on May 04, 2021, 07:00:19 PM
Three tenpin bowling alleys in Bournemouth and seven lawn bowls clubs. Bowly Bournemouth bastards with their underhand ways.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 07:50:01 PM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 04, 2021, 06:36:32 PM
Yes, by you. Congrats on diverting another thread.

https://youtu.be/0vECGh9hY68?t=27 (https://youtu.be/0vECGh9hY68?t=27)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 04, 2021, 11:18:35 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 04, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
Turning into a bit of Bournemouth chat but those from there or interested in this should watch the horror film "K-Shop"; it's actually a pretty decent film and a modern spin on Sweeney Todd.....with kebabs and racism.   However more than that it is set in something-on sea (Bournemouth) and is a social commentary on the place; the villain is a pwopa lad who is buying and converting all of the towns heritage building into degenerate mega clubs (it's got the Old Fire Station in it as the main club - oh how art mimics life) anyway check it out it's good in lots of ways and you'll be able to work out which chippy it is all filmed in.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/k_shop (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/k_shop)

I enjoyed watching that tonight. Thanks TP.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 05, 2021, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on May 04, 2021, 11:18:35 PM
I enjoyed watching that tonight. Thanks TP.

Your welcome and glad you enjoyed it :) it's good isn't it (poss worth the slight diversion of the thread).
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 05, 2021, 01:23:40 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 05, 2021, 12:43:13 PM
Your welcome and glad you enjoyed it :) it's good isn't it (poss worth the slight diversion of the thread).

Yes, very well directed and acted, unpretentious, dark comedy. Reminded me of the film Piggy (2012) Interesting to see Euan Mackintosh getting star billing on IMDb when he's only in it for three minutes.

R.I.P. Horror films thread in Deeper In Movies etc

Anyway, Noel Clarke. Like I said in the old Bill Cosby thread. It's heartbreaking when you get an inspiring high-profile black role model like this to let down that community so spectacularly, particularly as Clarke achieved so much at a young age.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 05, 2021, 01:46:11 PM
I've never been to Bournemouth but I've had random men shout at me to get my tits out, or hit on me for a joke, if that happens.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: DoesNotFollow on May 05, 2021, 02:17:38 PM
Loving all the Bomo(and Poole) CaB crew chat, makes me feel all fuzzy.

That's all.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Satchmo Distel on May 05, 2021, 10:53:09 PM
There's one Bournemouth every minute.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 06, 2021, 12:35:03 AM
A musical interlude from the Bournemouth interlude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugGVQJkuWs
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 11:10:50 AM
Crew from Doctor Who have now come forward:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/may/07/noel-clarke-accused-of-sexual-harassment-on-doctor-who-set

Clarke and Barrowman both fingered, but not in the way they'd like.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on May 07, 2021, 11:13:38 AM
Need to remember next time I'm in court for sexual assault to say it was just "tomfoolery".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 11:15:50 AM
Hearing a prominent Doctor Who actor from the 70s has admitted to tomfoolery.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 07, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
If Barrowman's career dies as a result of this then I love cancel culture.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 11:45:51 AM
He'd be marched out the BBC like the succulent Chinese meal guy except he'd shout GET YOUR HANDS ON MY PENIS
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 11:47:20 AM
Started to panic halfway through this sentence -

QuoteHowever, some Doctor Who crew members described an overly relaxed, at times unprofessional culture on set in the early seasons of the show. "David [Tennant, who joined the show in season 2]
Spoiler alert
behaved impeccably," said Jenna, "and to a certain extent, I think that helped rein things in."
[close]

The testimonies in that article confirm that Barrowman's dick-out displays went beyond on-set japes between flirty colleagues. We can imagine that the pally cast of Torchwood were fine with his antics, but I did wonder about the runners and technicians who had far less of a say.

QuoteMonica [a runner] had similar recollections. "Sometimes he'd call me into his dressing room, and I would knock on the door and he'd say, 'Oh, look at this', and he'd just have his willy out, standing in the doorway," she said. "It was kind of accepted that it was his thing," she said.

Although she did not appreciate his behaviour, or find it particularly funny, Monica stressed she did not feel unsafe. "It just felt really uncomfortable," she said.

The first we've heard from any of the Doctor Who higher-ups:

Quote[Executive producer] Gardner confirmed that she received a complaint around 2008 about Barrowman's conduct on the set of Torchwood. "I met with John and reprimanded him," Gardner said, adding that she also spoke to other executive producers, Barrowman's agent, and the head of BBC drama commissioning, to "make it clear to both John and his agent that behaviour of this kind would not be tolerated ... To my knowledge, John's inappropriate behaviour stopped thereafter," she added.

Russell T Davies also he never saw Barrowman expose himself, and was unaware of any complaints about Clarke's behaviour towards female coworkers on set and never heard of or witnessed inappropriate behaviour by the actor. Had he received a complaint, Davies said he would have acted immediately.

"I apologise wholeheartedly to any cast or crew who went through this," Davies said, adding: "all power to those coming forward now – we will listen to them, and learn".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
It will be interesting if Big Finish continue to use him. I suspect they'll ride out the Borrowman complaints.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 07, 2021, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 11:47:20 AM
The first we've heard from any of the Doctor Who higher-ups:

Davies' response seems particularly disingenuous, as earlier in the article, they mention a song made specifically for Davies that references Barrowman exposing himself, as if it's a known inside joke. Now he's saying he never saw it, which technically he may not have, but the implication is that he had no idea.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Midas on May 07, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
Quote
Russell T Davies also said he never saw Barrowman expose himself, and was unaware of any complaints about Clarke's behaviour towards female coworkers on set and never heard of or witnessed inappropriate behaviour by the actor. Had he received a complaint, Davies said he would have acted immediately.

He was aware of it though, wasn't he?

Quote from: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 11:49:33 AM
It will be interesting if Big Finish continue to use him. I suspect they'll ride out the Borrowman complaints.

They can't keep silent much longer, apparently they're due to release something starring Barrowman this month...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:04:51 PM
The Guardian don't directly quote RTD's response (and we can't always trust the Guardian to paraphrase reliably), but it does seem - from the article's phrasing - that he avoids confirming that he knew about Barrowman's habit by instead explaining that he never saw it happen himself.

Which is feasible; he did visit the set, but seemed to spend most of his showrunnership chain-smoking in his flat and writing until 4am. He might never have witnessed Barrowman's dick himself. But he definitely knew about the proclivity as he mentions it in his book, The Writer's Tale.

As I say, we don't actually get to read RTD's statement ourselves, only the abridged Guardian version sans quotes. He might well have said something like 'I was aware of this but I never saw it myself.'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2021, 12:07:50 PM
Barrowman is apparently one of those gay guys who thinks being gay will let him off the hook if he harasses women.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:18:38 PM
Yeah, that line from RTD startled me as well.  Could just be bad editing, as you say.


Intrigued by Jenna's line about David behaving impeccably and his arrival helping things to clean up, is that implying that Eccleston didn't?!  I find that difficult to believe... unless his complaints about the working conditions really WERE just about flaming sofas.  Nah, maybe it's more the case that Tennant was more proactive in trying to keep people safe?  I dunno.


Those responses from Clarke's lawyers are some grimly-hilarious shit.  This most of all:

QuoteClarke strongly denied the allegations. His lawyers said any suggestion that he would be allowed to behave that way because of his perceived power was "entirely implausible" because he was near the start of his career.

Entirely implausible that one of the regular cast (even one near the start of his career) would have more power than a driver/runner?  Pull the other one, you disingenuous cunts.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:18:38 PM
Intrigued by Jenna's line about David behaving impeccably and his arrival helping things to clean up, is that implying that Eccleston didn't?!  I find that difficult to believe... unless his complaints about the working conditions really WERE just about flaming sofas.  Nah, maybe it's more the case that Tennant was more proactive in trying to keep people safe?  I dunno.

Clarke and Barrowman have both described Eccleston as serious and grumpy, and Eccleston has hinted at his disdain for Barrowman - so I can't imagine he would've been happy with any dick-waving.

If Tennant's presence did help to 'reign the bad behaviour in', we should bear in mind that the show had had a year to calibrate itself by the time of his arrival, and Tennant had the additional status of ultimately being there much longer than Eccleston. And remember, Barrowman didn't actually return to the set until Tennant already had a series under his belt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:27:13 PMClarke and Barrowman have both described Eccleston as serious and grumpy, and Eccleston has hinted at his disdain for Barrowman - so I can't imagine he would've been happy with any dick-waving.

Exactly, that's why I was confused by her comment.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: robhug on May 07, 2021, 12:29:50 PM
Barrowman deserves all he gets just for pretending to be actually scottish
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:34:50 PM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:29:32 PM
Exactly, that's why I was confused by her comment.

(Disclaimer: spurious guesswork)

Tennant had already been the star of the show for a year before Barrowman returned. Perhaps a culture had been established in that time that precluded Barrowman from being as 'exuberant' as he had on Series 1, when everyone was new.

Nevertheless, he clearly felt relaxed enough over on the Torchwood set.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:34:50 PMTennant had already been the star of the show for a year before Barrowman returned. Perhaps a culture had been established in that time that precluded Barrowman from being as 'exuberant' as he had on Series 1, when everyone was new.

Ahhhhh yeah, you could well be right, there.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 12:39:00 PM
QuoteHis lawyers said there would have been no real need or purpose for him to be in the hotel bar because he does not drink.

Noel, I think you might need to sack your lawyers.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 12:43:54 PM
Oh yeah, forgot that bit!  Risible.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: BritishHobo on May 07, 2021, 12:45:20 PM
Fucking hell, bad shit all that. Very intrigued by that hint about conduct improving when Tennant came onboard. It does seem more and more like Eccleston was just disgusted by the whole culture on set, and rightfully felt he shouldn't have to bear the responsibility to sort things out. It must be especially galling to feel like that while also knowing that you're the face of the franchise. Sticking around in that situation could certainly feel like complicity. It doesn't reflect at all well on those at the top.

As ever, it's just fucking horrible that these women couldn't just go to work without having to deal with absolute cunts touching them and bothering them and hounding them and making everything sexual.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: BritishHobo on May 07, 2021, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 12:39:00 PM
Noel, I think you might need to sack your lawyers.

"Mr Clarke would only have sexually harassed the accuser outdoors or in a venue which exclusively served soft drinks."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 07, 2021, 12:48:57 PM
Eccleston, from what I've heard, is a decent man but a bit serious and intense.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Norton Canes on May 07, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Mrs Canes has always maintained, based on no more than a gut feeling that there's 'something dodgy' about Tennant; to which reply has always been that no reports to that effect have ever emerged and in fact to the contrary, by all accounts he's a thoroughly decent bloke.

If anything does come out I guess it'll be over the next couple of days, and if it does I don't know what will be worse - the fact that one of my favourite Doctor Who actors is a wrong 'un, or that Mrs Canes will forever be crowing about it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on May 07, 2021, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2021, 12:48:57 PM
Eccleston, from what I've heard, is a decent man but a bit serious and intense.
I heard he is a wankpig.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on May 07, 2021, 12:50:17 PM
Mrs Canes has always maintained there's 'something dodgy' about Tennant, to which reply has always been that no reports to that effect have ever emerged and in fact to the contrary, by all accounts he's a thoroughly decent bloke.

If anything does come out I guess it'll be over the next couple of days, and if it does I don't know what will be worse - the fact that one of my favourite Doctor Who actors is a wrong 'un, or that Mrs Canes will forever be crowing about it.

The worst I know about Tennant is that he described Starmer as a 'grown-up back in the room' and that he and Barrowman used to
Spoiler alert
fart competitively
[close]
on-set.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: up_the_hampipe on May 07, 2021, 12:58:52 PM
Eccleston seems game to make fun of himself in Rhys Thomas' stuff, so he can't be that sour.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2021, 01:00:50 PM
QuoteClarke also stands accused of behaving inappropriately at an external function related to his role in Doctor Who. In May 2016, Lisa Graham volunteered at Bournemouth Film and Comic Con, held at the Bournemouth International Centre. She was assigned to help Clarke sign autographs and take photographs with paying fans. At this event, Graham alleges that Clarke sexually harassed her and touched her inappropriately under the table they were both sitting at.

What happens in Bournemouth, stays in Bournemouth
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on May 07, 2021, 12:46:40 PM
"Mr Clarke would only have sexually harassed the accuser outdoors or in a venue which exclusively served soft drinks."

"Mr. West couldn't have buried those bodies under his patio because he hated being out in the garden."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 07, 2021, 01:06:16 PM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/5EC1/production/_84375242_bbc_clarke.jpg)


Billie Piper's associated with some rotters hasn't she? I bet should could write an interesting autobiography.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: BritishHobo on May 07, 2021, 01:08:39 PM
Is this the first we've heard of there being an official complaint about Barrowman's "tomfoolery", and that he was reprimanded by Julie Gardner? He mentions the whole radio controversy as being a wake-up call for him, and that following his apology in 2008, he learned from his 'mistakes' and stopped doing it. It would be interesting to know when the Torchwood incident occurred. Assuming it was series 1 or 2, that means it was at least a year before the apology for the radio incident.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on May 07, 2021, 01:15:13 PM
Noel needs new lawyers part 3:

QuoteThey said if Jenna had reported such behaviour to an assistant director at the BBC, Clarke would have been spoken to or reprimanded. They said Clarke was not aware of any complaint in relation to his alleged behaviour being made against him at any time. They added it "beggars belief" that the corporation would have allowed Clarke to behave in the way that is alleged.

Yeah, because your client isn't on tape talking about the guy who was allowed to wander round the set with his cock out, is he?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Endicott on May 07, 2021, 01:38:31 PM
Quote from: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 12:34:50 PM
(Disclaimer: spurious guesswork)

Tennant had already been the star of the show for a year before Barrowman returned. Perhaps a culture had been established in that time that precluded Barrowman from being as 'exuberant' as he had on Series 1, when everyone was new.

Nevertheless, he clearly felt relaxed enough over on the Torchwood set.

This is very true. It's also possible (more guesswork) that the woman who made the comment about Tennant reining things in, had never met Eccleston. She might not have worked on S1 for all we know. She's described as 'a runner and driver on the early seasons of the revived Doctor Who'. That's not very specific.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 01:41:05 PM
Eccleston was suffering through mental health issues at the time and seems to be a bit of an introverted chap in general. He definitely seemed to hate the culture of the production but was in no place personally to tackle it himself.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 07, 2021, 01:42:09 PM
Really don't get a bad impression from Eccleston at all, or Tennant. They seem like decent lads.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 07, 2021, 01:45:58 PM
To distinguish further (and still spuriously) between the Doctor Who and Torchwood sets - Freema Agyeman worked with Barrowman on both, in early 2007 on the former and late 2007 on the latter.

It was apparently only on arriving at Torchwood that she was surprised to find that Barrowman's cock was a regular:

QuoteSpeaking to thelondonpaper, the Martha Jones actress revealed: "The Torchwood cast are fab but they are all barking. They'll just be standing around and someone will break into song and someone else will take the next line."

However, the former Doctor Who star was particularly shocked by one cast member's bizarre habit of exposing a certain appendage: "John [Barrowman] will walk about with his chap hanging out, having conversations with people... everyone would just be talking to him normally and it would only be the new people, such as myself, that would be freaked out."

https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a90017/agyeman-stunned-by-barrowmans-quotchapquot/
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Quote from: up_the_hampipe on May 07, 2021, 12:58:52 PM
Eccleston seems game to make fun of himself in Rhys Thomas' stuff, so he can't be that sour.

Yeah, he definitely has a dry, deadpan sense of humour. A sense of humour entirely at odds with Barrowman's idea of knockabout tomfoolery. Eccleston takes his work seriously, which is commendable. That doesn't mean he's humourless, just that he'd rather get the job done to the best of his abilities without being distracted by some attention-seeking pest with his cock hanging out. Seems entirely reasonable to me.

Anyway, I agree that this doesn't reflect well on the bosses at that time. They were happy to joke about Barrowman's 'shenanigans' as if it was all just a bit of bawdy fun. "Oh that's just John, it's what he does!"

But I suspect Thomas is correct with regards to the working environment being a bit different when Barrowman returned to the show during Tennant's second season. Gardener reprimanding him following complaints about his behaviour probably gave him pause for thought, i.e. "Shit, I might lose my job over this. Better keep the old chap under wraps for a bit."

For what it's worth, I've also heard from people who've worked with him that Tennant is a lovely fella. A pro. He doesn't strike me as the sort of person who'd take kindly to Barrowman fucking about and making people feel uncomfortable. Then again, he did sing that song...

I dunno. But I do like the thought of Moffat not asking Barrowman back because he didn't want a flasher on his set. I hope that's true. 
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Norton Canes on May 07, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 01:47:59 PMThen again, he did sing that song...

That was when RTD was on the way out, though, so hopefully if anything he was actually just rubbing his nose in it a bit (so to speak)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 01:53:54 PM
Quote from: Norton Canes on May 07, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
That was when RTD was on the way out, though, so hopefully if anything he was actually just rubbing his nose in it a bit (so to speak)

Possibly, yes. Although it still comes across as A Bit of a Giggle. But this is all speculation, I know.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on May 07, 2021, 02:19:13 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 07, 2021, 01:42:09 PM
Really don't get a bad impression from Eccleston at all, or Tennant. They seem like decent lads.
Saville seemed like a good chap as well. I guess you just never know.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 07, 2021, 02:20:49 PM
Quote from: druss on May 07, 2021, 02:19:13 PM
Saville seemed like a good chap as well.

Errr...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 07, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: druss on May 07, 2021, 02:19:13 PM
Saville seemed like a good chap as well. I guess you just never know.

Lol what? Wasnt him being an absolute wrong'un an open secret?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 02:25:21 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 07, 2021, 02:20:49 PM
Errr... Eee... Errr-Eee-Errr-Eee-Errr-Eee-Errr-Eee-Errr-Eee-Errr, 'Ow's about that then?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 02:26:44 PM
David Tennant isn't even his real name. What else is he hiding?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on May 07, 2021, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 01:47:59 PM
Yeah, he definitely has a dry, deadpan sense of humour. A sense of humour entirely at odds with Barrowman's idea of knockabout tomfoolery. Eccleston takes his work seriously, which is commendable. That doesn't mean he's humourless, just that he'd rather get the job done to the best of his abilities without being distracted by some attention-seeking pest with his cock hanging out. Seems entirely reasonable to me.

From what I've seen and heard of Eccleston in interviews etc. I've always presumed he takes the work so seriously that some of his colleagues take it as a sign he needs to lighten up.

When it's discussed, I always recall the League of Gentlemen commentary where they mention one of the reasons Eccleston was keen to work with them was to show he could do comedy. One of the League (Shearsmith?) puts on a perfect Eccleston voice and deadpans: "Everyone thinks I'm a miserable bastard."

Anyway now I've trotted that out - fuck off, Noel Clarke.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on May 07, 2021, 02:30:14 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 07, 2021, 02:22:38 PM
Lol what? Wasnt him being an absolute wrong'un an open secret?
Quote from: imitationleather on May 07, 2021, 02:20:49 PM
Errr...
Clearly my sarcasm missed the mark. Usually a good rule of thumb to never take any of my posts seriously. Probably best not to read them at all in all honesty.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 02:30:54 PM
No one ever thought that about Savile, even while he was alive and ostensibly just A Great British Eccentric. He was always regarded as a vaguely unsettling oddball. You never heard anyone say, "That Jimmy Savile always comes across as a really decent bloke." If you wanted to say something nice about him it would be a sort of grudging, "Well he does a lot of work for charity."

Not that I despised Savile at the time, he was just this weird pop culture fixture who you couldn't get a handle on, but he was never held in much affection.

Anyway, we digress...

EDIT:

Quote from: druss on May 07, 2021, 02:30:14 PM
Clearly my sarcasm missed the mark. Usually a good rule of thumb to never take any of my posts seriously. Probably best not to read them at all in all honesty.

Well that's fair enough. Apologies.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on May 07, 2021, 02:33:21 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 02:26:44 PM
David Tennant isn't even his real name. What else is he hiding?
A nickname because he's partial to a few cans of 'Super' before filming ?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 02:33:55 PM
Beeb now reporting it, for the record, although nothing new in their story:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57021060
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 02:34:18 PM
Quote from: frajer on May 07, 2021, 02:27:37 PM
From what I've seen and heard of Eccleston in interviews etc. I've always presumed he takes the work so seriously that some of his colleagues take it as a sign he needs to lighten up.

Yeah, but when those colleagues include Noel Clarke and John Barrowman...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on May 07, 2021, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 02:34:18 PM
Yeah, but when those colleagues include Noel Clarke and John Barrowman...

Oh yeah I completely agree, regarding those dented bells and his approach to his work in general. It's an admirable worth ethic.

His recent video Q&A for Big Finish, where he answers that his main (but not sole) reason for coming back was it was paid work in a pandemic, and he needed to support his family, was refreshingly upfront.

Anyway, not the thread for me to gush over old Eccles. Noel Clarke can get in a barrel and go over the falls.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on May 07, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 02:30:54 PM
No one ever thought that about Savile, even while he was alive and ostensibly just A Great British Eccentric. He was always regarded as a vaguely unsettling oddball. You never heard anyone say, "That Jimmy Savile always comes across as a really decent bloke." If you wanted to say something nice about him it would be a sort of grudging, "Well he does a lot of work for charity."

This is true, but nobody really had him down as a massive child abuser did they? The rumour was that he shagged corpses - all that "has a key for the hospital mortuary" stuff.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: druss on May 07, 2021, 03:11:50 PM
Yeah he only wanted to fuck some cadavres, as we all have at some point or another.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: badaids on May 07, 2021, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 02:30:54 PM
No one ever thought that about Savile, even while he was alive and ostensibly just A Great British Eccentric. He was always regarded as a vaguely unsettling oddball. You never heard anyone say, "That Jimmy Savile always comes across as a really decent bloke." If you wanted to say something nice about him it would be a sort of grudging, "Well he does a lot of work for charity."

Not that I despised Savile at the time, he was just this weird pop culture fixture who you couldn't get a handle on, but he was never held in much affection.

Anyway, we digress...

EDIT:

Well that's fair enough. Apologies.

I grew up in Walton on Thames just across from Walton Hop and Hepworth Way where both Savile and King had flats.

Every time we'd be watching the TV with my Dad in the eighties and Savile or King came on the screen, which was pretty much every day back then, my Dad would pipe up: 'that filthy nonce cunt has a flat just over there, if i ever catch you any where near there you'll get a hiding. Stay away'. 'yeah okay Dad'. It wasnt even a secret, for us just another nag from your parents and common knowledge that you grew up with: Savile and King liked kids, stay away from Hepworth Way flats. Loads of kids always went missing too around Walton, there's loads more to come out about that I reckon (and of course Cliff Richard lived really close in Weybridge too).
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mr. logic on May 07, 2021, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 01:53:54 PM
Possibly, yes. Although it still comes across as A Bit of a Giggle. But this is all speculation, I know.

Not really, I agree with your original point. Not sure why people think Tennant is such a good guy here when it seems quite obvious he not only knew about Barrowman's conduct but also thought it was funny.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 07, 2021, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 07, 2021, 02:26:44 PM
David Tennant isn't even his real name. What else is he hiding?
Home ownership?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 07, 2021, 04:04:26 PM
Quote from: badaids on May 07, 2021, 03:27:04 PM
I grew up in Walton on Thames just across from Walton Hop and Hepworth Way where both Savile and King had flats.

Every time we'd be watching the TV with my Dad in the eighties and Savile or King came on the screen, which was pretty much every day back then, my Dad would pipe up: 'that filthy nonce cunt has a flat just over there, if i ever catch you any where near there you'll get a hiding. Stay away'. 'yeah okay Dad'. It wasnt even a secret, for us just another nag from your parents and common knowledge that you grew up with: Savile and King liked kids, stay away from Hepworth Way flats. Loads of kids always went missing too around Walton, there's loads more to come out about that I reckon (and of course Cliff Richard lived really close in Weybridge too).

From what you've just said, your father didn't sound particularly savory either.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 07, 2021, 04:33:17 PM
Quote from: mr. logic on May 07, 2021, 03:43:07 PM
Not really, I agree with your original point. Not sure why people think Tennant is such a good guy here when it seems quite obvious he not only knew about Barrowman's conduct but also thought it was funny.

Well yeah. I think we've all said as much.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: badaids on May 07, 2021, 04:51:58 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on May 07, 2021, 04:04:26 PM
From what you've just said, your father didn't sound particularly savory either.

My father is a horrible racist, sexist, homophobic cunt that I want little to do with but he at least didn't try to fuck me and let me stay up late to watch The Young Ones.

Oh yes, and he made clear his doubts about me because I liked dubious 'gay' activities like reading books.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 07, 2021, 05:16:54 PM
I'm confused now. Tennant either disapproved of Barrowman's antics and had a stop put to them; or, found it funny and... didn't? Isn't that contradictory? Or is it just the fact that Barrowman reined in his antics when he returned to Who (for whatever reason) and people are theorising Tennant was that reason?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lipsink on May 07, 2021, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: frajer on May 07, 2021, 02:39:51 PM
His recent video Q&A for Big Finish, where he answers that his main (but not sole) reason for coming back was it was paid work in a pandemic, and he needed to support his family, was refreshingly upfront.

Ah, just watched that. He's a good egg, ain't he? I know people found his attempts at playing 'wacky' fell flat but I just loved his portrayal of the Doctor and the chemistry between Eccles and Piper was an absolute joy. Will have to listen to his Big Finish stuff.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 07, 2021, 07:00:49 PM
Well this has absolutely ruined the worst seasons of doctor who for me.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jake Thingray on May 07, 2021, 07:01:24 PM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on May 07, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
This is true, but nobody really had him down as a massive child abuser did they? The rumour was that he shagged corpses - all that "has a key for the hospital mortuary" stuff.

Have said this before about Savile, but Lynn Barber's early 90's interview in the Independent on Sunday where she openly asked him about rumours that he was "into little girls" was an eye-opener for many, at the time.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 07:18:06 PM
Heh, I remember reading that article at the time and thinking "Hah, she's got it wrong, it's corpses he likes, not little girls."

Oh well.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 07, 2021, 07:48:47 PM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on May 07, 2021, 07:18:06 PM
Heh, I remember reading that article at the time and thinking "Hah, she's got it wrong, it's corpses he likes, not little girls."

Oh well.

The average age of his sexual conquests was 42, so he can't be all bad.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on May 10, 2021, 01:50:11 PM
Louis Theroux also danced around the topic of whether or not Savile was a pedophile in his When Louis Meets... series.  (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/magazine-37471573)



QuoteLouis Theroux : So, why do you say in interviews that you hate children when I've seen you with kids and you clearly enjoy their company and you have a good rapport with them?

Jimmy Savile : Right, obviously I don't hate 'em. That's number one.

Louis Theroux : Yeah. So why would you say that then?

Jimmy Savile : Because we live in a very funny world. And it's easier for me, as a single man, to say "I don't like children" because that puts a lot of salacious tabloid people off the hunt.

Louis Theroux : Are you basically saying that so tabloids don't, you know, pursue this whole 'Is he/isn't he a paedophile?' line, basically?

Jimmy Savile : Yes, yes, yes. Oh, aye. How do they know whether I am or not? How does anybody know whether I am? Nobody knows whether I am or not. I know I'm not, so I can tell you from experience that the easy way of doing it when they're saying "Oh, you have all them children on Jim'll Fix It", say "Yeah, I hate 'em."

Louis Theroux : Yeah. To me that sounds more, sort of, suspicious in a way though, because it seems so implausible.

Jimmy Savile : Well, that's my policy, that's the way it goes. That's what I do. And it's worked a dream.

Louis Theroux : Has it worked?

Jimmy Savile : A dream.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 10, 2021, 02:17:58 PM
Savile implying that raping children would be an act of affection.

He was a bad 'un.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on May 10, 2021, 02:26:07 PM
Quote from: BritishHobo on May 07, 2021, 01:08:39 PM
Is this the first we've heard of there being an official complaint about Barrowman's "tomfoolery", and that he was reprimanded by Julie Gardner? He mentions the whole radio controversy as being a wake-up call for him, and that following his apology in 2008, he learned from his 'mistakes' and stopped doing it.

He did it again, on radio, in 2012.

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/star-exposes-himself-on-radio-1-show-6929615.html


Edited to add:

Interesting take on it by The Guardian and most of its readers back in the dark days of 08.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/organgrinder/2008/dec/02/bbc-radio-john-barrowman


Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 10, 2021, 03:26:07 PM
Christ that's a sinister interview.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 11, 2021, 09:19:44 PM
Barrowman GONE from some spin off immersive play thing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1IZF59XEAQuN5t?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: batwings on May 11, 2021, 09:23:16 PM
The cock's out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: frajer on May 11, 2021, 09:27:15 PM
Captain Jack Clarkepest
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on May 11, 2021, 09:29:31 PM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 11, 2021, 09:19:44 PM
Barrowman GONE from some spin off immersive play thing
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1IZF59XEAQuN5t?format=jpg&name=small)
yes because Torchwood fans have never been disappointed before
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 14, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
BarrowGONE Mk.2
Quote from: Big FinishBig Finish has taken the decision to remove Torchwood: Absent Friends from the monthly range release schedule and has no plans to publish this title at this time

That was a high profile release with David Tennant in. I'm thinking that the decision to remove this from the schedule will have not come directly from Big Finish but from somebody higher up.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 14, 2021, 07:06:34 PM
And this isn't on, is it?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XMv_QWQAcazTs?format=png)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on May 14, 2021, 09:12:55 PM
It all seems mighty hypocritical, not because Barrowman's actions are acceptable, but because just about all of this has been known for years.

He was rumoured to be appearing in the shortened upcoming series of Doctor Who, but that has to be in jeopardy now as well.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thecuriousorange on May 14, 2021, 10:29:24 PM
Who else has a known reputation for getting their knob out, but hasn't yet been cancelled?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 14, 2021, 10:35:44 PM
Gene Simmons
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 15, 2021, 12:04:57 AM
David Yow
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: idunnosomename on May 15, 2021, 12:08:43 AM
Captain Beefheart's uncle
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 15, 2021, 12:13:08 AM
Arthur Mullard
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on May 15, 2021, 12:54:53 AM
Ron Jeremy

Edit- Wow he's facing 330 years in jail at the moment. Still not cancelled tho
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 15, 2021, 06:41:22 AM
Kenneth Williams
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on May 15, 2021, 07:32:45 AM
Quote from: JamesTC on May 14, 2021, 07:06:34 PM
And this isn't on, is it?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XMv_QWQAcazTs?format=png)

Have we got a sauce (sic) for this?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 15, 2021, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on May 15, 2021, 07:32:45 AM
Have we got a sauce (sic) for this?

Radio Times (https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/how-doctor-who-brought-john-barrowmans-captain-jack-back-to-the-tardis/)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bronzy on May 20, 2021, 06:06:25 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.

And a partridge in a pear tree!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 20, 2021, 09:50:16 PM
Quote from: Bronzy on May 20, 2021, 06:06:25 PM
And a partridge in a pear tree!

One of them had better not be Steve Coogan.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on May 20, 2021, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.

Del Boy falls through the prison bars?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 20, 2021, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.

Ta-da!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on May 20, 2021, 10:09:14 PM
Quote from: thecuriousorange on May 14, 2021, 10:29:24 PM
Who else has a known reputation for getting their knob out, but hasn't yet been cancelled?

There was a podcast or XFM show of Ricky Gervais' where Jonathan Ross came into the studio while the were recording and apparently whipped his cock out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 20, 2021, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.

Anyone else playing #cancelled poker?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: non capisco on May 20, 2021, 10:18:23 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Two comics

I'd like to see how he's gonna slither his way out of this one!!

Dead, you say?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Norton Canes on May 20, 2021, 10:21:16 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor

No that's the new Taskmaster line-up
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 20, 2021, 10:22:11 PM
I am sure we are all desperately hoping that none of these people are any good.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on May 20, 2021, 10:28:42 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.

and a microphone
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: lankyguy95 on May 20, 2021, 10:29:54 PM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
According to the Mirror, five more accused sex pests will be unveiled soon. Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor.
And that's just Keith Allen.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on May 21, 2021, 12:35:37 AM
Quote from: neveragain on May 20, 2021, 06:03:48 PM
Two comics, two TV personalities and an actor

...go into a bar. The judge says 'One at a time, please.'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 21, 2021, 12:51:40 AM
Quote from: lankyguy95 on May 20, 2021, 10:29:54 PM
And that's just Keith Allen.

Ha!

Or maybe Russell Brand...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: buzby on May 21, 2021, 07:58:54 AM
Quote from: lankyguy95 on May 20, 2021, 10:29:54 PM
And that's just Keith Allen.
<applauds>
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on May 21, 2021, 08:05:42 AM
Quote from: thecuriousorange on May 14, 2021, 10:29:24 PM
Who else has a known reputation for getting their knob out, but hasn't yet been cancelled?

https://metro.co.uk/2017/11/04/chris-evans-accused-of-flashing-his-genitals-by-colleague-while-working-at-channel-4-7052940/
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 21, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: Wayman C. McCreery on May 21, 2021, 08:05:42 AM
https://metro.co.uk/2017/11/04/chris-evans-accused-of-flashing-his-genitals-by-colleague-while-working-at-channel-4-7052940/

I thought this was quite an old story.  He used to walk into offices naked, according to the version I heard.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
How in your face does penis exposure need to be for a UK tabloid to judge a man 'to be cancelled by the mob upon publication of our list'? Is reclining in one's home sans clothes acceptable, if by an accident you are exposed on a Zoom call? What if you do it deliberately 'for a laugh'? What if a hacker installs a RAT and views you via webcam, then blackmails you, ultimately contacting a UK tabloid? Would the UK tabloid agree to not ruin your life if you made a charitable donation of their choosing? Or just pay them off? It's really quite complicated, but I'm sure the UK tabloids will make a fine judge, jury and executioner, especially in non-criminal cases, and nothing could possibly go wrong, eh readers? ;-)

UK justice system 2021.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: earl_sleek on May 21, 2021, 04:25:29 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
How in your face does penis exposure need to be for a UK tabloid to judge a man 'to be cancelled by the mob upon publication of our list'? Is reclining in one's home sans clothes acceptable, if by an accident you are exposed on a Zoom call? What if you do it deliberately 'for a laugh'? What if a hacker installs a RAT and views you via webcam, then blackmails you, ultimately contacting a UK tabloid? Would the UK tabloid agree to not ruin your life if you made a charitable donation of their choosing? Or just pay them off? It's really quite complicated, but I'm sure the UK tabloids will make a fine judge, jury and executioner, especially in non-criminal cases, and nothing could possibly go wrong, eh readers? ;-)

UK justice system 2021.

What if your cock entirely off its own accord grows wings, flies off and bums the Queen before crashing into the sun sun and blowing it up? The woke mob would literally burn you alive!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: katzenjammer on May 21, 2021, 04:31:45 PM
Is mooning still allowed?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on May 21, 2021, 04:39:37 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
How in your face does penis exposure need to be for a UK tabloid to judge a man 'to be cancelled by the mob upon publication of our list'? Is reclining in one's home sans clothes acceptable, if by an accident you are exposed on a Zoom call? What if you do it deliberately 'for a laugh'? What if a hacker installs a RAT and views you via webcam, then blackmails you, ultimately contacting a UK tabloid? Would the UK tabloid agree to not ruin your life if you made a charitable donation of their choosing? Or just pay them off? It's really quite complicated, but I'm sure the UK tabloids will make a fine judge, jury and executioner, especially in non-criminal cases, and nothing could possibly go wrong, eh readers? ;-)

UK justice system 2021.

agreed, it's a real shame that the police and the justice system can't be trusted when women are assaulted or sexually harrassed and that they have to rely on those publications to get their stories out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: boki on May 21, 2021, 04:51:15 PM
Quote from: katzenjammer on May 21, 2021, 04:31:45 PM
Is mooning still allowed?
That's Food Porn to Gen-Z.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mrClaypole on May 21, 2021, 05:29:19 PM
Hugh fearnley whittingstall?.
I've heard he has wondering hands
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 09:22:35 PM
What do they contemplate pre-grope?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 21, 2021, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on May 21, 2021, 01:55:41 PM
I thought this was quite an old story.  He used to walk into offices naked, according to the version I heard.

He's a children's broadcaster who was known as an eccentric and worked predominantly for the BBC. He hardly has the profile of a wrong 'un.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Twit 2 on May 21, 2021, 10:47:37 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 09:22:35 PM
What do they contemplate pre-grope?

Banano-contemplate thrice burgle.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on May 22, 2021, 09:52:33 AM
Bulletproof has been binned off
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57198187
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 22, 2021, 05:51:18 PM
And yet Martin Bashir remains untouched, for what is likely criminal.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 22, 2021, 06:02:05 PM
All the lives you affect for being a sleazebag, eh? Not only the women he harassed but all those people he put out of work. Clarke probably didn't think he was doing anything wrong. How do you get up in the morning with all this hanging over you? Career and reputation screwed, and any glimmer of happiness in the future, a long, long way off.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 22, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
Ask Chris Langham, maybe.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JaDanketies on May 22, 2021, 08:08:48 PM
Quote from: mothman on May 22, 2021, 07:30:21 PM
Ask Chris Langham, maybe.

Think probably anything to do with being a pedo is more career-limiting than anything else. Anyone who hires you loves pedos, the man on the Clapham omnibus assumes.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 23, 2021, 01:25:05 AM
Granted. But, I was viewing it more from a livelihood/income front. Langham as a minor comedy actor probably didn't have THAT much money, not compared to someone like Spacey or Cosby who probably have plenty, more than enough to retire comfortably. Clarke, well, he'll be somewhere in between those two extremes - and is nowhere near retirement age.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bernice on May 23, 2021, 01:38:27 AM
It's been a while, but I remember basically believing Langham's side of the story when I read about his case - the classic "I downloaded that child porn for research", though in his case I remember even the judge saying "yeah, that's basically believable, still a crime though".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 23, 2021, 05:26:41 AM
There's no  manual that guides the freshly exposed sex-pest thespian; no set of instructions on how to live your life now that the limelight's been switched off. But, for sure, your showbiz career is now OVER. You're fucked. So that's your 1st Step: Acceptance:

STEP 1: ACCEPTED that, for us, fame, fortune, adulation and celebrity were over, and only misery and obscurity lay ahead.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on May 23, 2021, 05:35:51 AM
STEP 2: Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to Gok, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the courage to carry that out.

(https://i2-prod.business-live.co.uk/incoming/article6391014.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/JS26361238.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 23, 2021, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
How in your face does penis exposure need to be for a UK tabloid to judge a man 'to be cancelled by the mob upon publication of our list'? Is reclining in one's home sans clothes acceptable, if by an accident you are exposed on a Zoom call? What if you do it deliberately 'for a laugh'? What if a hacker installs a RAT and views you via webcam, then blackmails you, ultimately contacting a UK tabloid? Would the UK tabloid agree to not ruin your life if you made a charitable donation of their choosing? Or just pay them off? It's really quite complicated, but I'm sure the UK tabloids will make a fine judge, jury and executioner, especially in non-criminal cases, and nothing could possibly go wrong, eh readers? ;-)

UK justice system 2021.

None of your whattabouts are things people are getting cancelled for tho? What about the things which people are actually getting accused of?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 23, 2021, 11:07:12 AM
Quote from: mrClaypole on May 21, 2021, 05:29:19 PM
Hugh fearnley whittingstall?.
I've heard he has wondering hands

Hans Feely-Annotsittinstill
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: holyzombiejesus on May 23, 2021, 11:37:54 AM
Huge Cuminhairwhileyoureasleep fearnley whittingstall
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 23, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Maybe I'm a prude but I don't think wanking into sleeping women's hair uninvited is okay behaviour.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 23, 2021, 12:53:07 PM
If they didn't want semen in their hair then they shouldn't have fallen asleep, should they?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: imitationleather on May 23, 2021, 12:55:20 PM
If you ask them beforehand and they are alright with it then why not? I don't find the idea that appealing but then there's loads of stuff I don't like doing, such as going outside and having a career and that.

It's the uninvited part that I think is a bit dubious.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jittlebags on May 23, 2021, 02:13:57 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on May 23, 2021, 11:07:12 AM
Hans Feely-Annotsittinstill

Phew Follicaly Jizzingem
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 23, 2021, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 23, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Maybe I'm a prude but I don't think wanking into sleeping women's hair uninvited is okay behaviour.

You know, TRESemmé's secret ingredient is jizz.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mister Six on May 23, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
TRESemmén.


Hidden in plain sight.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 23, 2021, 06:02:37 PM
There's Noe-l-aughs for Mr Clarke now, is there, eh readers!?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JarrowMonkey on May 23, 2021, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: imitationleather on May 23, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Maybe I'm a prude but I don't think wanking into sleeping women's hair uninvited is okay behaviour.

A Ken Dodd is hardly the height of romance now is it?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on May 23, 2021, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: Pinball on May 21, 2021, 04:11:36 PM
How in your face does penis exposure need to be for a UK tabloid to judge a man 'to be cancelled by the mob upon publication of our list'? Is reclining in one's home sans clothes acceptable, if by an accident you are exposed on a Zoom call? What if you do it deliberately 'for a laugh'? What if a hacker installs a RAT and views you via webcam, then blackmails you, ultimately contacting a UK tabloid? Would the UK tabloid agree to not ruin your life if you made a charitable donation of their choosing? Or just pay them off? It's really quite complicated, but I'm sure the UK tabloids will make a fine judge, jury and executioner, especially in non-criminal cases, and nothing could possibly go wrong, eh readers? ;-)

UK justice system 2021.
That's an awful lot of weird scenarios there.

How many women coming forward does it take for men to stop screaming about witch hunts?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thenoise on May 23, 2021, 06:20:27 PM
Well its a slippery slope isn't it - first they came for the men wanking over sleeping women's hair, next thing you know they are after me for wanking alone in my room to my own thoughts.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 23, 2021, 07:23:30 PM
Quote from: thenoise on May 23, 2021, 06:20:27 PM
Well its a slippery slope isn't it - first they came for the men wanking over sleeping women's hair, next thing you know they are after me for wanking alone in my room to my own thoughts.

You do that? Are you some sort of degenerate?

Quote from: Mister Six on May 23, 2021, 04:21:49 PM
TRESemmén.


Hidden in plain sight.

Daresn't ask what they put in the conditioner.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thenoise on May 23, 2021, 07:42:15 PM
Um no I mean, hypothetically, of course.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blumf on May 23, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: thenoise on May 23, 2021, 07:42:15 PM
Um no I mean, hypothetically, of course.

Wanking for a friend
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 23, 2021, 10:20:22 PM
Quote from: Kankurette on May 23, 2021, 06:07:34 PM
That's an awful lot of weird scenarios there.

How many women coming forward does it take for men to stop screaming about witch hunts?
Maybe because this is a weird comedy forum?

If I think about spunking in your hair but don't do it, but write the thought in my sex diary, which is then discovered and posted on twatter by a concerned member of the sisterhood, am I then a sex pest who should have my life destroyed, even though I didn't spunk on you and only thought about it? A sort of Minority Report with spunk and social media.

It's all so complicated.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on May 23, 2021, 11:06:57 PM
Noone is posting your wank diary mate

Not even substack
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 23, 2021, 11:15:21 PM
Dear diary,

Today I thought about wanking.

Yours sincerely,

James.

P.S. I am wanking while I write this.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: ProvanFan on May 23, 2021, 11:16:48 PM
If I wank do I not bleed?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pinball on May 23, 2021, 11:58:13 PM
I guess I just want my wank diary published, but it is not to be. Even the humourless easily triggered sisterhood aren't interested.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on May 24, 2021, 12:10:55 AM
Quote from: Pinball on May 23, 2021, 10:20:22 PM
It's all so complicated.

You sound complicated.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Bernice on May 24, 2021, 12:15:11 AM
Quote from: Pinball on May 23, 2021, 10:20:22 PM
Maybe because this is a weird comedy forum?

If I think about spunking in your hair but don't do it, but write the thought in my sex diary, which is then discovered and posted on twatter by a concerned member of the sisterhood, am I then a sex pest who should have my life destroyed, even though I didn't spunk on you and only thought about it? A sort of Minority Report with spunk and social media.

It's all so complicated.

Is there a real-life analogue that has seen this neurotic worry become a reality?

Quote from: imitationleather on May 23, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Maybe I'm a prude but I don't think wanking into sleeping women's hair uninvited is okay behaviour.

And maybe I'm afraid of the way I love you.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on May 24, 2021, 01:11:45 AM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 01, 2021, 12:16:51 PM
(https://mongolcult.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/rik-matey.jpg?w=736)

My dad had the Young Ones books, and I have a fairly strong memory of this page having the title "Matey? More like Wanky.."

Quote from: H-O-W-L on May 01, 2021, 06:37:53 PM
Indeed.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAVuUXMHWLc)

Stephen Merchant sounded genuinely upset by it, didn't he.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 24, 2021, 01:30:45 AM
Quote from: Antiseptic Poetry on May 24, 2021, 01:11:45 AM
Matey? More like Wanky

Yeah, that's it, stayed with me too since it was published, used to amuse me when at people houses as an adolescent and there was a bottle in the bathroom - probably still would TBH.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on May 24, 2021, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: Better Midlands on May 24, 2021, 01:30:45 AM
Yeah, that's it, stayed with me too since it was published, used to amuse me when at people houses as an adolescent and there was a bottle in the bathroom - probably still would TBH.

Found the full thing:

(https://i.imgur.com/sVQ48Wr.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on May 24, 2021, 02:51:14 PM
Ha, I could have sworn it was "matey, more like wanky" when you wrote it, Mandela in full effect there - perhaps we've both misappropriated it from elsewhere in Mayal's canon. The "work up a lather" in inverted commas used to cause huge amounts of mirth amongst me and my friends too.

So juvenile.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on May 24, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Do they even still make Matey anymore?


Oh, yes, and they cater for all types now!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51D%2BYfgNKaL._AC_SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on May 24, 2021, 08:58:58 PM
Quote from: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on May 24, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Oh, yes, and they cater for all types now!

(https://i.imgur.com/p9S732j.png)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on May 24, 2021, 09:02:47 PM
Quote from: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on May 24, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
Do they even still make Matey anymore?


Oh, yes, and they cater for all types now!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51D%2BYfgNKaL._AC_SX425_.jpg)

That'll be cancelled once someone finds that old advert for it from the 70s, the one showing nudey children at bathtime.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Bumlord on May 25, 2021, 05:52:47 PM
'someone'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on May 25, 2021, 09:43:22 PM
I'd forgotten "Rick, from TV's famous 'Whoops, my bottom's farted'". That might be the funniest thing in print.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on July 18, 2021, 07:34:27 AM
Apparently John Barrowman's trying for his comeback, interview in the (OMG) the Daily mail,

Quote

So does he regret the way he behaved? 'You can't wind the clock back,' he says.

'They were different times, which is why I wouldn't do now what I did then. I've acknowledged that by the way my behaviour has changed. The trouble is that certain cancel culture enthusiasts are not allowing me to acknowledge it. I've always believed that the reason I was put on this planet was to bring joy to people, make them laugh. How I do that has evolved over the years. I'm still using humour, just in a different way than might have been the case ten or 20 years ago.'

Now, he says, he wants to move on, both personally and professionally.

Long way to say 'no.'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 18, 2021, 07:44:59 AM
Quote from: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on July 18, 2021, 07:34:27 AM
Apparently John Barrowman's trying for his comeback, interview in the (OMG) the Daily mail,

Long way to say 'no.'

It's a politician's answer.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on July 18, 2021, 08:01:43 AM
" I've always believed that the reason I was put on this planet was to bring joy to people, make them laugh."

What about Pride, John? Mmm? Who's bringin' the people Pride?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/Db0WNHeX4AElroT.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: olliebean on July 18, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
"They were different times" has always been a bullshit excuse. It doesn't mean "It was acceptable behaviour back then," it means "You could get away with it back then."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on July 18, 2021, 10:41:15 AM
Quote from: Phoenix Lazarus on July 18, 2021, 07:44:59 AM
It's a politician's answer.

It's a David Brent answer
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on July 18, 2021, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: olliebean on July 18, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
"They were different times" has always been a bullshit excuse. It doesn't mean "It was acceptable behaviour back then," it means "You could get away with it back then."

And, also, we're talking about 2005 and the few years after that. Not the 1970s.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Neomod on July 18, 2021, 11:36:35 AM
Can't stand Barrowman. The sort of prick who imposes his ebullient[nb]with a hint of darkness[/nb] personality on the group as he conciously ignores their wearied expressions.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: ajsmith2 on July 18, 2021, 11:51:09 AM
Quote from: John Barrowman on July 18, 2021, 07:34:27 AM
'You can't wind the cock back
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Better Midlands on July 18, 2021, 11:55:08 AM
Quote from: Alberon on July 18, 2021, 11:25:05 AM
And, also, we're talking about 2005 and the few years after that. Not the 1970s.

In this exciting, fast paced ever & changing world we live in yesterday morning counts as "different times" now.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 12:03:25 PM
Quote from: John BarrowmanAs Captain Jack Harkness I was the star of Torchwood, so I felt it was down to me to lead the company and keep them entertained,' he explains. 'When I was doing a nude scene or a love scene it was clear in the script I'd be naked and everyone would have known about that at least 48 hours in advance. So I'd be waiting in my trailer wearing just a robe with a sock over my "parts". Then, if I were standing waiting to film a scene where I needed to be nude and someone came into view, I'd make a joke to put them and myself at ease. My actions were simply designed to defuse any potential awkwardness among the cast and crew.

'I've never been someone who's embarrassed about his body so it didn't bother me if anyone saw me naked,' he adds. 'The motivation for what I'd call my "tomfoolery" was to maintain a jokey atmosphere. There was absolutely nothing sexual about my actions and nor have I ever been accused of that.' Whether this sort of behaviour would defuse any awkwardness, or actually foster it, is debatable.

If what happened had taken place in the changing rooms after a rugby match it would be regarded as no more than a prank,' he continues. 'On the other hand, it's never going to happen in an accountant's office or a supermarket. But my job is not a regular nine-to-five, we're a family working long hours and in close proximity to each other.' Again, one has to bear in mind that a rugby changing room would be an all-male environment. There were many women in the cast and crew of the TV shows.

Just a bit of bants, calm down everyone. And besides, I felt duty-bound to do it, just like all leading men are known for flashing the cast and crew on all film and TV sets, they all pressured me into it because they love it really. Also if there hadn't been any women there it would have been alright, men are totally cool with sexual harassment.

Quote from: John BarrowmanThis scandal has clearly not left John unscathed. 'It was upsetting my mental health,' he tells me. 'My husband Scott suggested I talk to somebody. I won't discuss what I've said in therapy sessions – that's a matter of doctor/patient confidentiality – but I don't mind admitting it's helped me a great deal.

'It's made me aware that despite how much cancel culture may talk about respecting people's mental health, too often they don't respect the mental health of the people they're trying to cancel. So I needed to understand what was happening, which is why I went to speak to somebody.'

Oh boo fucking hoo. Me Me Me Me Me. Something a bit sociopathic about this, no?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on July 18, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
Yeah I think it's the negative side of mental health being so talked about now. It's an impervious shield for so much shitty behaviour.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 18, 2021, 12:27:24 PM
John Barrowman is an anagram of Man Horn Jab Row, which would have made a good Sun headline when the story broke.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 18, 2021, 12:50:35 PM
Haven't we all tried to ease tensions in the workplace by getting our cock out?  Should change his name to Gary Barrowman.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 18, 2021, 12:52:52 PM
Quote from: Neomod on July 18, 2021, 11:36:35 AM
Can't stand Barrowman. The sort of prick who imposes his ebullient[nb]with a hint of darkness[/nb] personality on the group

The sort of personality who imposes his ebullient prick on the group.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 12:53:46 PM
Love Torchwood: Children of Earth but I wonder if watching it now would feel a bit icky. Especially the bit where he gets his arse out.

Quote from: bgmnts on July 18, 2021, 12:16:37 PM
Yeah I think it's the negative side of mental health being so talked about now. It's an impervious shield for so much shitty behaviour.

Yes, and the kind of people who deny mental illness is real seem quite content with it being used as an excuse for bad behaviour when it's someone on "their" side. Although with the Mail interview it's been refreshing to see most of the commenters not buying it and calling him out.

"I'm in therapy" does also seem like a standard line wrong 'uns use when they get caught and are trying to convince people they're being magically reformed. Isn't Clarke "in therapy" too?

The "I've never been embarrassed about my body" stuff is bollocks too, it says "It's not my problem, other people are just too prudish and need to get over it". Just because someone is comfortable with their own nudity doesn't mean everyone else has to be comfortable looking at them nude.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 18, 2021, 01:00:10 PM
He makes it sound like they were filming full cast orgy scenes, like in Sense8 or something, all the cast were nervous, so he was just pratting about to lighten the mood. In Doctor Who, he's only ever naked in one short scene with the Trinny and Susannah robots. Closed set, no other actors involved besides the puppeteers. What possible reason could he have for showing his cock to Camille Coduri who didn't have any scenes with him in series 1 and only a few short scenes in series 4 where he doesn't appear nude at all.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 01:03:07 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 18, 2021, 01:00:10 PM
He makes it sound like they were filming full cast orgy scenes, like in Sense8 or something, all the cast were nervous, so he was just pratting about to lighten the mood.

Thing is, there is actually such a thing as an "Intimacy Coordinator" to fulfil that role:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-48401926

I doubt their methods to help put actors at ease including getting their genitals out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dayraven on July 18, 2021, 01:07:17 PM
QuoteThing is, there is actually such a thing as an "Intimacy Coordinator" to fulfil that role
Though that is a job that's only been established fairly recently — the link itself is talking about the BBC first using one for a 2019 show.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 01:11:28 PM
Quote from: Dayraven on July 18, 2021, 01:07:17 PM
Though that is a job that's only been established fairly recently — the link itself is talking about the BBC first using one for a 2019 show.

Yes, I think people are using them now because there's a real need for arse-covering ensuring vulnerable people aren't exploited. My point was they don't use "bants" to lighten rhe mood and I doubt that was ever an effective method.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on July 18, 2021, 01:33:21 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 01:03:07 PM
Thing is, there is actually such a thing as an "Intimacy Coordinator" to fulfil that role:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-48401926

I doubt their methods to help put actors at ease including getting their genitals out.

I think I read once that Paul Verhoeven got his kit off in solidarity while directing a sex scene in one of his films. Whether it actually helped calm the nerves of the actors involved wasn't mentioned.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 18, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 01:03:07 PM
Thing is, there is actually such a thing as an "Intimacy Coordinator" to fulfil that role:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/entertainment-arts-48401926

I doubt their methods to help put actors at ease including getting their genitals out.

In which case, I respectfully rescind my application for the role.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Neomod on July 18, 2021, 01:41:40 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 18, 2021, 01:00:10 PM
One short scene with the Trinny and Susannah robots.

S E X  P E S T

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Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: An tSaoi on July 18, 2021, 02:21:14 PM
Quote from: mothman on July 18, 2021, 01:33:21 PM
I think I read once that Paul Verhoeven got his kit off in solidarity while directing a sex scene in one of his films.

Shower scene in Starship Troopers. The camerman too I think.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: H-O-W-L on July 18, 2021, 02:21:26 PM
Quote from: mothman on July 18, 2021, 01:33:21 PM
I think I read once that Paul Verhoeven got his kit off in solidarity while directing a sex scene in one of his films. Whether it actually helped calm the nerves of the actors involved wasn't mentioned.

It wasn't a sex scene, it was the shower scene in Starship Troopers, basically a fuckload of actors in a co-ed shower. Apparently the cast challenged him to do it in solidarity.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 18, 2021, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on July 18, 2021, 07:34:27 AM
Apparently John Barrowman's trying for his comeback, interview in the (OMG) the Daily mail,

Long way to say 'no.'
They've all got 'comebacks' by the time Barrowman's finished.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 18, 2021, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: olliebean on July 18, 2021, 10:38:59 AM
"They were different times" has always been a bullshit excuse. It doesn't mean "It was acceptable behaviour back then," it means "You could get away with it back then."

Well, Barrowman did get away with it and subsequently was very publically outed as a tedious exhibitionist 'who doesn't know where to draw the line' by Noel Clarke at a Sci-Fi convention in 2015. Why wasn't he supposedly 'cancelled' back then?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: olliebean on July 18, 2021, 03:40:15 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 18, 2021, 02:50:36 PM
Well, Barrowman did get away with it and subsequently was very publically outed as a tedious exhibitionist 'who doesn't know where to draw the line' by Noel Clarke at a Sci-Fi convention in 2015. Why wasn't he supposedly 'cancelled' back then?

They were different times.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jobotic on July 18, 2021, 04:44:21 PM
So I wiped my bell end across the window of your elderly mother's rest home day room.

I'm not ashamed of my body. What's she got to hide?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jamiefairlie on July 18, 2021, 04:46:42 PM
Deliberately showing your cock to non-consenting people is surely indecent exposure and he should be prosecuted appropriately.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on July 18, 2021, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: An tSaoi on July 18, 2021, 02:21:14 PM
Shower scene in Starship Troopers. The camerman too I think.
Quote from: H-O-W-L on July 18, 2021, 02:21:26 PM
It wasn't a sex scene, it was the shower scene in Starship Troopers, basically a fuckload of actors in a co-ed shower. Apparently the cast challenged him to do it in solidarity.

Well there you go.

Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 18, 2021, 02:50:36 PM
Well, Barrowman did get away with it and subsequently was very publically outed as a tedious exhibitionist 'who doesn't know where to draw the line' by Noel Clarke at a Sci-Fi convention in 2015. Why wasn't he supposedly 'cancelled' back then?

Yes, why did nothing come of a black man accusing a white man of doing something wrong? ;-)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on July 18, 2021, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: Neomod on July 18, 2021, 11:36:35 AM
Can't stand Barrowman. The sort of prick who imposes his ebullient[nb]with a hint of darkness[/nb] personality on the group as he conciously ignores their wearied expressions.

It sounds like Noel Furlong but with cocks out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk_-E2eBrrQ
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Hat FM on July 19, 2021, 12:27:30 PM
Is this was ten years ago Noel Clarke would be back on tv in less than a year on a reality show telling his fellow z-listers that he is 'a changed man'. will this no longer be the case. we'll soon (in the next two years) find out.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 19, 2021, 12:52:38 PM
If he's lucky, a non-recurring role in Hollyoaks.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on July 19, 2021, 03:45:45 PM
I'm not sure there's any crime which fits THAT punishment!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on July 19, 2021, 03:47:30 PM
Celebrity Love Island.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Hat FM on July 19, 2021, 05:22:32 PM
Love to see him getting dressed down by that posh twat while being introduced on celeb pointless.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on July 19, 2021, 08:45:43 PM
It's interesting, isn't it? Do "cancelled" people actually stay cancelled, or can they eventually worm their way back in somehow?

I mean, Kevin Spacey is currently filming his first film in years. The sheer gall of it, yet there's seemingly still some arseholes in the biz who'll work with him

And of course Louis CK is still trying his hardest to get back. It's mad, but they're trying
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Taking Clarke as an example if he kept his head down for a year or so and then could give a convincing display of contrition and change he might be able to resurrect some of his career.

Barrowman should still be keeping his head down for the next few months and just hope he hasn't been edited out of the next Doctor Who series.

Some people have no chance. The widespread revulsion at Spacey getting any sort of work shows he'll probably never work consistently again.

I am interested in what some permanently cancelled people do with the rest of their lives. What is Joss Whedon going to do? Or the even younger Max Landis?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 19, 2021, 09:06:51 PM
Maybe Bill Baggs could use them. Colonel John and Nicky vs. the Raleks.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on July 19, 2021, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Taking Clarke as an example if he kept his head down for a year or so and then could give a convincing display of contrition and change he might be able to resurrect some of his career.

Barrowman should still be keeping his head down for the next few months and just hope he hasn't been edited out of the next Doctor Who series.

Some people have no chance. The widespread revulsion at Spacey getting any sort of work shows he'll probably never work consistently again.

I am interested in what some permanently cancelled people do with the rest of their lives. What is Joss Whedon going to do? Or the even younger Max Landis?

Chris Langham?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 09:12:13 PM
Yes! He's done one or two minor pieces of acting, but what does he do the majority of his time?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on July 19, 2021, 10:41:11 PM
Quote from: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 09:12:13 PM
Yes! He's done one or two minor pieces of acting, but what does he do the majority of his time?

I saw him at the National Theatre (in the audience, not in the play) about 10 years ago, so going to the theatre is obviously something he does.

Would Chris Langham have made enough money in his career not to have to worry about working again? I suppose there's always residuals from The Muppet Show.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 20, 2021, 12:48:17 AM
Quote from: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 08:54:07 PM

I am interested in what some permanently cancelled people do with the rest of their lives. What is Joss Whedon going to do? Or the even younger Max Landis?

For a lot of these people, they lay low for a bit and later just work behind the scenes in the TV/ movie industry. For some minor disgraced TV stars, they can slip back into obscurity very quickly and start their lives again. Most people don't know or care in the real world anyway. 
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on July 20, 2021, 06:48:18 AM
Has there ever been a celeb who professed a sexual desire for children but never acted on that desire, and still had a career? A non-active nonce?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 20, 2021, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: steve98 on July 20, 2021, 06:48:18 AM
Has there ever been a celeb who professed a sexual desire for children but never acted on that desire, and still had a career? A non-active nonce?

Pete Townshend and his near miss with his "book"?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: willbo on July 20, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Germaine Greer arguably
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on July 20, 2021, 08:52:34 AM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on July 19, 2021, 08:45:43 PM
It's interesting, isn't it? Do "cancelled" people actually stay cancelled, or can they eventually worm their way back in somehow?

I mean, Kevin Spacey is currently filming his first film in years. The sheer gall of it, yet there's seemingly still some arseholes in the biz who'll work with him

And of course Louis CK is still trying his hardest to get back. It's mad, but they're trying

Wasn't Judi Dench defending Spacey at one point?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Paul Calf on July 20, 2021, 09:11:29 AM
The ever-fragrant Hatie:

QuoteIn the video, Ms Hopkins said she planned to "lie in wait" for workers to deliver food to her room so she could open the door "naked with no face mask".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57883692

She's being deported, but surely she should be prosecuted as a sex offender?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: daf on July 20, 2021, 09:21:06 AM
Quote from: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Barrowman should still be keeping his head down for the next few months and just hope he hasn't been edited out of the next Doctor Who series.

I'd be amazed if he's still in it - he's already been removed from the Time Fracture (https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/john-barrowman-doctor-who-time-fracture-accusations-newsupdate/) experience, and also a Big Finish Torchwood (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57114481) story was pulled.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: willbo on July 20, 2021, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: daf on July 20, 2021, 09:21:06 AM
I'd be amazed if he's still in it - he's already been removed from the Time Fracture (https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/john-barrowman-doctor-who-time-fracture-accusations-newsupdate/) experience, and also a Big Finish Torchwood (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57114481) story was pulled.

not the only thing of his being "pulled" from what I heard (oo er)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on July 20, 2021, 09:59:20 AM
Quote from: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 08:54:07 PM
Taking Clarke as an example if he kept his head down for a year or so and then could give a convincing display of contrition and change he might be able to resurrect some of his career.

That would involve having some acting skills. lol.

Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Hat FM on July 20, 2021, 10:53:46 AM
maybe clarke will have made amends in time to make retirementhood?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on July 20, 2021, 12:24:02 PM
Maybe all the cancelled actors can get together and make their own show? Filmed on a phone. On YouTube.

I think it was Gary Old-man who tried to defend Spacey. Beggars belief
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 20, 2021, 08:56:12 PM
Quote from: steve98 on July 20, 2021, 06:48:18 AM
Has there ever been a celeb who professed a sexual desire for children but never acted on that desire, and still had a career? A non-active nonce?

A snippet of Danny Baker's review of Ed 'Stewpot' Stewart's autobiography.

Naturally, every page is soaked in this vile trite bilge. (Notably though, for an ex-pirate radio DJ and BBC pop picker throughout the most tumultuous times in youth culture not a single mention of any meetings with pop stars at all) However, it is in his love life that we are given the most pause.

"I met my wife when she was 13, in 1970..." P.146 (He was 34 at this point)

"...my wife started on my stomach – and nothing else! – when she was 13..." P.147

"I arrived (at her parents) at 7 pm and was greeted at the door by what I can only describe as a 13-year-old apparition! She was simply stunning." (P147)

"...(the following year, so 14 now) I travelled to Italy to see her. I had just split from Eve Graham of The New Seekers and so, as the song goes, I was "Free Again"! P153

He marries the poor girl when she is 17. Elsewhere –

"We played a charity football match at a girls' school in Lingfield. After the match, we visited some of the boarders, who were mostly epileptic. The pupils had just reached puberty and the girls wouldn't let us out of the dormitory. We had to be rescued by the staff!"     (P 177)


Jesus.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on July 20, 2021, 09:13:57 PM
Bleauurrrgghhh!

And here he is with said girlfriend. I think she's the one smiling

https://i.prcdn.co/img?regionKey=jjOY2lJLmM3xXhnGRWy3ng%3D%3D
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 20, 2021, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on July 18, 2021, 12:53:46 PM


Yes, and the kind of people who deny mental illness is real seem quite content with it being used as an excuse for bad behaviour when it's someone on "their" side. Although with the Mail interview it's been refreshing to see most of the commenters not buying it and calling him out.

"I'm in therapy" does also seem like a standard line wrong 'uns use when they get caught and are trying to convince people they're being magically reformed. Isn't Clarke "in therapy" too?


I thought that Barrowman quote (basically the one about people should be careful of his mental health) was questionable too.  Of course we should be considerate of everybody's mental health, but calling someone to account for bad behaviour doesn't equate to an attack.  I wonder if he had an in-depth view of the mental state of all the cast and crew he got his penis out in front of...can see that there would be a large number of reasons why that might upset someone.  Or is it only the mental health of the famous that JB thinks is important?

Looked at my old Popbitch emails, this from 2017: John Barrowman's big party trick? Cutting birthday cakes with his cock.

That's just plain unhygienic.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 20, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
And this from another Popbitch email:

Those who have had the pleasure of Barrowman's intimate company tell us that he is forever getting his pecker out and flashing it about. But it's not just the odd bit of willy-waving. He has it do party tricks too.

There was the time he used his erection to cut a birthday cake, for example (not into particularly neat slices, it must be said). Or the time he had it do a rather graphic impression of Spider-Man onto his breakfast bar for the amusement of friends.


The Spider-Man bit baffles me.  The only thing I can think of is really really unhygienic...surely not...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mister Six on July 20, 2021, 10:27:06 PM
I think so. :(
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: olliebean on July 20, 2021, 10:28:48 PM
What an utterly unpleasant man he has turned out to be.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 20, 2021, 10:29:05 PM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 20, 2021, 10:09:09 PM
I thought that Barrowman quote (basically the one about people should be careful of his mental health) was questionable too.  Of course we should be considerate of everybody's mental health, but calling someone to account for bad behaviour doesn't equate to an attack.  I wonder if he had an in-depth view of the mental state of all the cast and crew he got his penis out in front of...can see that there would be a large number of reasons why that might upset someone.  Or is it only the mental health of the famous that JB thinks is important?

Looked at my old Popbitch emails, this from 2017: John Barrowman's big party trick? Cutting birthday cakes with his cock.

That's just plain unhygienic.
Cheesecake ?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mr. logic on July 20, 2021, 11:17:29 PM
Barrowman sounds like he is an absolute cunt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 21, 2021, 12:21:40 AM
I thought he was a cunt before everyone else got into thinking he's a cunt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 01:47:06 AM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 20, 2021, 10:17:38 PM
And this from another Popbitch email:

Those who have had the pleasure of Barrowman's intimate company tell us that he is forever getting his pecker out and flashing it about. But it's not just the odd bit of willy-waving. He has it do party tricks too.

There was the time he used his erection to cut a birthday cake, for example (not into particularly neat slices, it must be said). Or the time he had it do a rather graphic impression of Spider-Man onto his breakfast bar for the amusement of friends.


The Spider-Man bit baffles me.  The only thing I can think of is really really unhygienic...surely not...

Gangster and actor, John Bindon would laugh in Barrowman's face and then perform his party trick of hanging five half-pint tankards on the girth of his massive erect penis. Now that's clarse!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 21, 2021, 02:23:52 AM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 01:47:06 AM
Gangster and actor, John Bindon would laugh in Barrowman's face and then perform his party trick of hanging five half-pint tankards on the girth of his massive erect penis. Now that's clarse!

When Princess Margaret told you to do something you did it.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 21, 2021, 03:49:20 AM
Quote from: steve98 on July 20, 2021, 06:48:18 AM
Has there ever been a celeb who professed a sexual desire for children but never acted on that desire, and still had a career? A non-active nonce?

I'm not calling him a nonce, but there's that horrifying passage from one of Giles Coren's Times articles regarding his 3yo daughter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6wXLupWUAEY3L2?format=jpg&name=medium)

(from https://twitter.com/SloaneFragment/status/1417533475075280899)

Also, in the light of the above, this: https://twitter.com/DNicoros/status/1417536622757883907

Didn't Rod Liddle come out with something pretty iffy too?

Neither of these people fall into the exact question being asked, but they're sort of adjacent to it, if only by appearance.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: steve98 on July 21, 2021, 07:17:13 AM
Good answers on my Non-Active Celeb Nonce question, thanks. But what about this: You find yourself on a desert island, and bored, you resolve to have a wank to pass the time, but frustratingly you're unable to climax, due to not having any wanking materials.

Then, one day, an image of a female washes up in the surf, you rush over to it, all excited, and to your surprise find it's
Spoiler alert
Greta the climate-change child-woman
[close]
- what do you do? Be honest.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 07:50:20 AM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on July 21, 2021, 03:49:20 AM
I'm not calling him a nonce, but there's that horrifying passage from one of Giles Coren's Times articles regarding his 3yo daughter:


Giles Coren is a strange man.  He had an article a few years ago about giving up masturbating, which had many unpleasant paragraphs including these ones:

I thought having kids might kill it off for me. I thought the risk of being busted mid-shuffle by someone who might actually be fucked up by the sight of it for life might be enough to shut me down.

Nah.

The thing is, you see, that when I turn on the hot tap in the shower it steams up the door in a trice so if I'm hard at it when a kid comes in shouting, "Daddy! Mummy says it's breakfast!" I have plenty of scope to spin round, get it all out of sight, get the cold on and be out in 10 seconds as if nothing had happened.

It's pathetic. I'm pathetic. To get my eldest to school on time I have to get us out of the house by 8:30am on weekdays. But even when breakfast is running late and I'm still in my pyjamas and unshowered at 8:20am and shouting to my wife to get the kid dressed while I belt upstairs to have a shower, I find myself thinking, as soon as I am alone on the top floor of the house: "I've got 10 minutes. Plenty of time for a wank".

And not just a wank. Because then I think, "I could probably even do three minutes on Brazzers if the iPad is charged".


And when his kids are old enough to google their dad's name, they're not going to find any of that creepy at all, are they?

PS Giles, if you sold that Jaguar you keep moaning about getting nicked, you might be able to afford a lock for your bathroom door.  I hear they're available for a modest price.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: SpiderChrist on July 21, 2021, 08:17:11 AM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 20, 2021, 08:56:12 PM
A snippet of Danny Baker's review of Ed 'Stewpot' Stewart's autobiography.

Naturally, every page is soaked in this vile trite bilge. (Notably though, for an ex-pirate radio DJ and BBC pop picker throughout the most tumultuous times in youth culture not a single mention of any meetings with pop stars at all) However, it is in his love life that we are given the most pause.

"I met my wife when she was 13, in 1970..." P.146 (He was 34 at this point)

"...my wife started on my stomach – and nothing else! – when she was 13..." P.147

"I arrived (at her parents) at 7 pm and was greeted at the door by what I can only describe as a 13-year-old apparition! She was simply stunning." (P147)

"...(the following year, so 14 now) I travelled to Italy to see her. I had just split from Eve Graham of The New Seekers and so, as the song goes, I was "Free Again"! P153

He marries the poor girl when she is 17. Elsewhere –

"We played a charity football match at a girls' school in Lingfield. After the match, we visited some of the boarders, who were mostly epileptic. The pupils had just reached puberty and the girls wouldn't let us out of the dormitory. We had to be rescued by the staff!"     (P 177)


Jesus.

Ed Stewpot Stewart's Junior Choice.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on July 21, 2021, 08:24:39 AM
"Her plump little lips". Oof, no no no
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Giggling Bean on July 21, 2021, 09:33:10 AM
There's loads of people shouting out on social media that it was years ago and is massively unfair to dredge it up. Yes he was reprimanded on the set of Doctor Who but by all accounts he was back to whipping it out on his subsequent jobs. There's one video from a comic con panel in which he was very proud to detail how he broke into an actresses trailer on a film set. He then sent her photos of him, totally naked, in various spots around her trailer. It was all treated like larks and being a naughty schoolboy. It made for uncomfortable viewing and damns him by his own words.

It seems like he's just gone back to old habits on every subsequent job he's had because it's a new cast and crew to unveil his repertoire to. It doesn't sound like he learnt anything from the Dr Who incident.

For the record I liked Captain Jack and am ambivalent at best about Barrowman. I can still watch Eccleston/Tennant era Who despite these allegations. It's just annoying to hear Barrowman whine after a consistent pattern of waving his cock about over the years.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Gurke and Hare on July 21, 2021, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: Ambient Sheep on July 21, 2021, 03:49:20 AM
Didn't Rod Liddle come out with something pretty iffy too?

Said he didn't become a teacher because he'd have probably tried to shag the kids, or something along those lines.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: steve98 on July 21, 2021, 07:17:13 AM
Good answers on my Non-Active Celeb Nonce question, thanks. But what about this: You find yourself on a desert island, and bored, you resolve to have a wank to pass the time, but frustratingly you're unable to climax, due to not having any wanking materials.

Then, one day, an image of a female washes up in the surf, you rush over to it, all excited, and to your surprise find it's
Spoiler alert
Greta the climate-change child-woman
[close]
- what do you do? Be honest.

Steve, are you putting yourself forward as a possible answer to the Non-Active CaB Nonce question?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Zetetic on July 21, 2021, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on July 21, 2021, 09:39:18 AM
Said he didn't become a teacher because he'd have probably tried to shag the kids, or something along those lines.
"could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids", to be clear.

Not just finding something about teenagers attractive or something about the fetishisation of youth and its imagery playing on his mind, or even deciding that on balance his desires and urges might pose an unacceptable risk, but being thoroughly unable to imagine himself not attempting to fuck "kids".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 10:39:15 AM
Quote from: The Giggling Bean on July 21, 2021, 09:33:10 AM
There's loads of people shouting out on social media that it was years ago and is massively unfair to dredge it up. Yes he was reprimanded on the set of Doctor Who but by all accounts he was back to whipping it out on his subsequent jobs. There's one video from a comic con panel in which he was very proud to detail how he broke into an actresses trailer on a film set. He then sent her photos of him, totally naked, in various spots around her trailer. It was all treated like larks and being a naughty schoolboy. It made for uncomfortable viewing and damns him by his own words.

It seems like he's just gone back to old habits on every subsequent job he's had because it's a new cast and crew to unveil his repertoire to. It doesn't sound like he learnt anything from the Dr Who incident.

For the record I liked Captain Jack and am ambivalent at best about Barrowman. I can still watch Eccleston/Tennant era Who despite these allegations. It's just annoying to hear Barrowman whine after a consistent pattern of waving his cock about over the years.

I don't think Barrowman is some sort of sex pest at all, he just appears to be a completely immature, vain exhibitionist who has been allowed to let his antics get out of control because he's been indulged and pampered for far too long.  I've known people like him all my life. They don't have any hang-ups about their naked flesh or any shame. The 'moony' mob. I was never confident (or boorish?) enough to do 'a moony' or carry a conversation in a swimming pool/ gym changing room, completely starkers, drying my balls with a towel two feet in front of another person's face a'la Les Dennis in Extras. Some blokes don't see waving one's bits about as 'indiscreet', 'pervy' or 'problematic', it's just a hoot, it's a Carry On...and it's to make uptight people like me blush. 

This is what makes him laugh. His favourite Monty Python moment is probably Terry Jones sat naked at an upright piano. It almost certainly made some of his colleagues laugh too. Nobody complained at the time. As far as I know, nobody has retrospectively complained.  Does this make what he did right? No. It was inappropriate and extremely unprofessional, but I don't think he should be crucified. I find some of the online attacks on him as dubious as using one's penis to cut a cake. I'd be nervous about marzipan burn.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 21, 2021, 10:45:48 AM
Quote from: steve98 on July 21, 2021, 07:17:13 AM
Good answers on my Non-Active Celeb Nonce question, thanks. But what about this: You find yourself on a desert island, and bored, you resolve to have a wank to pass the time, but frustratingly you're unable to climax, due to not having any wanking materials.

Then, one day, an image of a female washes up in the surf, you rush over to it, all excited, and to your surprise find it's
Spoiler alert
Greta the climate-change child-woman
[close]
- what do you do? Be honest.

This is fine as she is 18 now.  Please make sure the picture is of 18 year old Greta before wanking off though.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Giggling Bean on July 21, 2021, 11:32:44 AM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 10:39:15 AM
I don't think Barrowman is some sort of sex pest at all, he just appears to be a completely immature, vain exhibitionist who has been allowed to let his antics get out of control because he's been indulged and pampered for far too long.  I've known people like him all my life. They don't have any hang-ups about their naked flesh or any shame. The 'moony' mob. I was never confident (or boorish?) enough to do 'a moony' or carry a conversation in a swimming pool/ gym changing room, completely starkers, drying my balls with a towel two feet in front of another person's face a'la Les Dennis in Extras. Some blokes don't see waving one's bits about as 'indiscreet', 'pervy' or 'problematic', it's just a hoot, it's a Carry On...and it's to make uptight people like me blush. 

This is what makes him laugh. His favourite Monty Python moment is probably Terry Jones sat naked at an upright piano. It almost certainly made some of his colleagues laugh too. Nobody complained at the time. As far as I know, nobody has retrospectively complained.  Does this make what he did right? No. It was inappropriate and extremely unprofessional, but I don't think he should be crucified. I find some of the online attacks on him as dubious as using one's penis to cut a cake. I'd be nervous about marzipan burn.

I completely agree with you. I wasn't suggesting he's a sex pest, more the sort of person who does it to get a shock/rise out of you. He probably meant no harm by it and just thought it was immature fun. Unfortunately what has come out from this is that it made some of the younger/newer crew members uncomfortable. This points out the imbalance of power in the TV industry. One of the crew spoke out saying you couldn't complain because you'd never work again. I'm sure I heard a story about Barrowman getting a runner sacked from Torchwood because they said they wanted to work on Doctor Who.

I'm sure as a natural showman with an extensive theatre background nudity is no concern for him. Unfortunately, despite being spoken to, he just continued this behaviour on other shoots after Dr Who. The consequences of his actions are catching up with him. It was a silly thing to do but is it enough for him to lose his work and be removed from Dr Who history? I don't think so but maybe it's best not to whip it out in public.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: wooders1978 on July 21, 2021, 11:35:04 AM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on July 21, 2021, 08:24:39 AM
"Her plump little lips". Oof, no no no

That bit was very disturbing, as was to describe the holiday, not as romantic, which you could sort of understand, but *sexy* - mein got
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: chveik on July 21, 2021, 11:40:39 AM
in what world a serial exhibitionnist isn't a sex pest? people can go in jail for it
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 12:02:58 PM
Quote from: chveik on July 21, 2021, 11:40:39 AM
in what world a serial exhibitionnist isn't a sex pest? people can go in jail for it

Yes, but it's context.  I've just come back from the park and a man was sunbathing in his swimming trunks. Nobody bats an eyelid, but if the same man lay down on the grass in his underpants on a day of grey skies, the police might be called. In France, it is illegal for a man to be shirtless in a public place that isn't the beach/ pool/ etc.

Barrowman thought he was among friends and colleagues and misguidedly believed he was always getting away with his brand of hi-jinx. It's highly unlikely he was going to prance around in the nip in Waitrose or whip out his old man on The Graham Norton Show.

There are many stories of showbiz types larking about like this. George Melly used to strip naked at parties to do his 'man, woman, dog' party trick. It would make me squirm but I wouldn't think he was getting his jollies from it. Allegedly, a certain former actress from Coronation Street (who shall remain nameless) used to occasionally walk on set with her tits out or lift her skirt up with no underwear to get a laugh, much to the fury of the senior members of the cast.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on July 21, 2021, 12:08:58 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 10:39:15 AM
I'd be nervous about marzipan burn.

It's ok, it wouldn't say anything about your sexuality.

Edit: Oh, bu r n not bu m.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Jockice on July 21, 2021, 12:21:57 PM
I do find that sort of person (and I've met a few) quite irritating though. Like streakers going 'I just want to give people a laugh.' No you don't. You just want to show your genitals off At least be honest about it. Or those who decide to tell me about their (apparent) sex lives because they assume I don't have/have never had one and think I'm going to be overawed or jealous. I'm not. I'm just not interested.

Having said all that, I very nearly went skinny-dipping in the hotel pool on the last night of a holiday to Greece in the late 90s after a drunken bet with another (female) guest. I didn't chicken out but in the end it just didn't happen. Neither of us ended up doing it. It would have been possibly the most-out-of character thing I'd have done in my life. So part of me wishes I had done it. But put it this way, I'd shared a room with a male friend for a week on that holiday (and have been on others with him) and he's never seen me naked. Not many people have.

I mean, it's within the normal range of averages but it's certainly nothing to write home about. Which is why my family were surprised when my postcards from Kos on that trip contained a description of my penis.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Kankurette on July 21, 2021, 12:42:08 PM
Quote from: Jockice on July 21, 2021, 12:21:57 PM
I do find that sort of person (and I've met a few) quite irritating though. Like streakers going 'I just want to give people a laugh.' No you don't. You just want to show your genitals off At least be honest about it. Or those who decide to tell me about their (apparent) sex lives because they assume I don't have/have never had one and think I'm going to be overawed or jealous. I'm not. I'm just not interested.

Having said all that, I very nearly went skinny-dipping in the hotel pool on the last night of a holiday to Greece in the late 90s after a drunken bet with another (female) guest. I didn't chicken out but in the end it just didn't happen. Neither of us ended up doing it. It would have been possibly the most-out-of character thing I'd have done in my life. So part of me wishes I had done it. But put it this way, I'd shared a room with a male friend for a week on that holiday (and have been on others with him) and he's never seen me naked. Not many people have.

I mean, it's within the normal range of averages but it's certainly nothing to write home about. Which is why my family were surprised when my postcards from Kos on that trip contained a description of my penis.
I find it annoying as well. I have a huge complex about sex in no small part because a couple of friends who used to brag about their sex lives. One of them came out as demisexual, which is pretty hilarious considering they've shagged more people than I ever will. They used to make a big deal about how kinky and queer and poly they were and how I was an uptight prude for not letting my boyfriend fuck other women or not doing him up the bum.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 21, 2021, 12:59:52 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 12:02:58 PM
Allegedly, a certain former actress from Coronation Street (who shall remain nameless) used to occasionally walk on set with her tits out or lift her skirt up with no underwear to get a laugh, much to the fury of the senior members of the cast.

"Who wants a bite of my hotpot!" roared a belligerent Betty Driver.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 01:08:00 PM
John Barrowman might have been warned off his 'exuberant' behaviour if he'd read Kenneth Williams' diary:

13/5/68 'At the studios today, to brighten things up, I hid my cock between my legs and impersonated a vagina for Angela Douglas. She sunk her head in her hands and moaned "Oh! God – how horrible" and didn't find it amusing at all. This is where she lacks graciousness.'

Love the way that he presents her as being the one with the problem...
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dex Sawash on July 21, 2021, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 12:02:58 PM
'man, woman, dog' party trick.

Google not helping with this
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: Dex Sawash on July 21, 2021, 01:55:07 PM
Google not helping with this

<butler-style polite cough>: Allow me, sir.

From a Daily Mail article:

Our neighbour George Melly's favourite party trick is what he calls 'Man, Woman and Bulldog'. He takes all his clothes off, stands in the middle of the room and tells everyone he's a 'Man'.

Melly pushes all his bits between his legs and, squeezing them together, shouts: 'Woman!' Finally, he turns around, bends over and barks: 'Bulldog!'
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:25 PM
<butler-style polite cough>: Allow me, sir.

From a Daily Mail article:

Our neighbour George Melly's favourite party trick is what he calls 'Man, Woman and Bulldog'. He takes all his clothes off, stands in the middle of the room and tells everyone he's a 'Man'.

Melly pushes all his bits between his legs and, squeezing them together, shouts: 'Woman!' Finally, he turns around, bends over and barks: 'Bulldog!'

It wasn't really worth it, was it?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mardukas on July 21, 2021, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:25 PM
<butler-style polite cough>: Allow me, sir.

From a Daily Mail article:

Our neighbour George Melly's favourite party trick is what he calls 'Man, Woman and Bulldog'. He takes all his clothes off, stands in the middle of the room and tells everyone he's a 'Man'.

Melly pushes all his bits between his legs and, squeezing them together, shouts: 'Woman!' Finally, he turns around, bends over and barks: 'Bulldog!'

When he lost he sex drive late in life he said it was "like being unchained from a lunatic".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Uncle TechTip on July 21, 2021, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: Brundle-Fly on July 21, 2021, 12:02:58 PM
or whip out his old man on The Graham Norton Show. .


I bet he would if he was encouraged. Don't worry, it won't make the cut... Clink (of copper's handcuffs)

Jizzing on a salad bar hood sounds utterly implausible. Someone would have reported that, surely. Cutting a cake with your penis sounds half believable, but still just as likely didn't happen. It's popbitch. Anyway, just getting it out is enough. I can't see any excuse except "we did it before".

Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on July 21, 2021, 03:33:20 PM

Jizzing on a salad bar hood sounds utterly implausible. Someone would have reported that, surely.

Probably the strangest thing I've ever been pedantic about, but it was his own breakfast bar.  Apparently.  By which I presume they mean the sticking out thing in a kitchen, rather than a rectangular snack with oats in.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Uncle TechTip on July 21, 2021, 04:12:01 PM
Ah right, i did have to read it a couple of times, evidently i still didn't get it. Who would find that funny though except Legend Garys?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: Uncle TechTip on July 21, 2021, 04:12:01 PM
Ah right, i did have to read it a couple of times, evidently i still didn't get it. Who would find that funny though except Legend Garys?

I wasn't even absolutely sure what it meant until other posters on here confirmed my suspicions.  Because that's just horrible, and I quite agree, who would find that remotely amusing?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Neomod on July 21, 2021, 04:43:52 PM
To be honest I'm surprised Barrowman hasn't been lamped at least once for this shit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Custard on July 21, 2021, 04:59:44 PM
And why was he that excited at breakfast?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Pauline Walnuts on July 21, 2021, 05:25:40 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on July 21, 2021, 04:59:44 PM
And why was he that excited at breakfast?

Lots of Sausages, and big juicy melon for the vegetarians.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 21, 2021, 06:26:24 PM
Quote from: Neomod on July 21, 2021, 04:43:52 PM
To be honest I'm surprised Barrowman hasn't been lamped at least once for this shit.

Homophobic attack that, innit.

Was reminded of this earlier:

https://youtu.be/w1XOfHax6Q8

Barrowman says he came up with the line on the fly because the woman he was acting opposite was so wooden and he was desperate to get her to react with emotion to anything. Firstly, of course she's wooden. It's a straight-to-video horror movie, not an RSC production. Also, you're no Ian McKellen yourself, mate.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dex Sawash on July 21, 2021, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:25 PM
<butler-style polite cough>: Allow me, sir.

From a Daily Mail article:

Our neighbour George Melly's favourite party trick is what he calls 'Man, Woman and Bulldog'. He takes all his clothes off, stands in the middle of the room and tells everyone he's a 'Man'.

Melly pushes all his bits between his legs and, squeezing them together, shouts: 'Woman!' Finally, he turns around, bends over and barks: 'Bulldog!'


will be a great day if I could now just get a diagram of The Last Chicken at Sainsburys.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Dog on July 21, 2021, 08:20:23 PM
Quote from: Shameless Custard on July 21, 2021, 04:59:44 PM
And why was he that excited at breakfast?

Probably his mum got him a Kellogg's variety pack.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Neomod on July 21, 2021, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 21, 2021, 06:26:24 PM
Homophobic attack that, innit.

Not really, no. He'd be lamped for being a sex pest.

Unless you are saying sex pestery is an inherent trait in the gay community?

and what if the guy/girl who lamped him was gay?

Hmmmmm
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 21, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 21, 2021, 06:26:24 PM
Homophobic attack that, innit.

Was reminded of this earlier:

https://youtu.be/w1XOfHax6Q8

Barrowman says he came up with the line on the fly because the woman he was acting opposite was so wooden and he was desperate to get her to react with emotion to anything. Firstly, of course she's wooden. It's a straight-to-video horror movie, not an RSC production. Also, you're no Ian McKellen yourself, mate.

Always hated that anecdote
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on July 22, 2021, 12:21:16 AM
Quote from: Neomod on July 21, 2021, 09:43:35 PM
Not really, no. He'd be lamped for being a sex pest.

Unless you are saying sex pestery is an inherent trait in the gay community?

and what if the guy/girl who lamped him was gay?

Hmmmmm

No, I'm saying that he'd accuse the puncher of homophobia because it's all just a bit of zany gay bantz in his head.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Johnny Yesno on July 22, 2021, 01:55:20 AM
Quote from: The Dog on July 21, 2021, 08:20:23 PM
Probably his mum got him a Kellogg's variety pack.

Case solved. Lock the thread.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Neomod on July 22, 2021, 06:11:03 AM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 22, 2021, 12:21:16 AM
No, I'm saying that he'd accuse the puncher of homophobia because it's all just a bit of zany gay bantz in his head.

Ahh, yeah. No doubt.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 22, 2021, 11:41:31 AM
Quote from: Mardukas on July 21, 2021, 02:51:35 PM
When he lost he sex drive late in life he said it was "like being unchained from a lunatic".

Quote from: The Guardian... Hooked!, his book about fishing, where he described landing a trout, then lying down in the undergrowth and masturbating into a large dock leaf.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/jul/08/jazz.urban
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: willbo on July 22, 2021, 12:11:21 PM
Quote from: rectorofstiffkey on July 21, 2021, 02:25:52 PM
It wasn't really worth it, was it?

you mean human civilisation?
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on July 22, 2021, 12:44:34 PM
Quote from: willbo on July 22, 2021, 12:11:21 PM
you mean human civilisation?

Well, I was talking specifically about spending a small amount of time searching the internet to find that 'Man, Woman, and Bulldog' was pretty much what you would think it might be.  But now you mention it...

(and while I'm here, George Melly was so enamored of this party trick that his company was called 'Man, Woman and Bulldog Limited'.  He must have loved doing it to a frankly weird extent)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 23, 2021, 02:00:36 PM
Quote from: Zetetic on July 21, 2021, 10:04:19 AM
Quote from: Gurke and Hare on July 21, 2021, 09:39:18 AM
Said he didn't become a teacher because he'd have probably tried to shag the kids, or something along those lines.
"could not remotely conceive of not trying to shag the kids", to be clear.

Not just finding something about teenagers attractive or something about the fetishisation of youth and its imagery playing on his mind, or even deciding that on balance his desires and urges might pose an unacceptable risk, but being thoroughly unable to imagine himself not attempting to fuck "kids".

Yes, that was it.  Thanks, you two.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on July 24, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
Everyone's favourite critic is not happy with the film he's just sat through..

https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman/status/1418816301405978632?s=19 (https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman/status/1418816301405978632?s=19)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 24, 2021, 04:33:35 PM
Lovely reply from our own Louis Barfe in there.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: mothman on July 24, 2021, 04:56:20 PM
Barrowman went off on one on Twitter about hating M. Night Shyamalan's new film Old (tagging the director in the process) and getting a refund from the cinema, with hilarious consequences.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: St_Eddie on July 24, 2021, 05:43:45 PM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on July 24, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
Everyone's favourite critic is not happy with the film he's just sat through..

https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman/status/1418816301405978632?s=19 (https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman/status/1418816301405978632?s=19)

I've asked for (and received) a refund from a cinema once in my entire life.  It was for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy movie adaptation.  The difference is that I walked out and requested the refund 20 minutes into the movie, when it was clear that I was not going to enjoy it one bit because it was actively making me angry.  Whereas twat face here (who surely is very well off financially, it should be noted) sat through the ENTIRE movie and then demanded a refund simply because he didn't like the movie, as though that's the cinema's fault.  What a total cunt.  That's like ordering a three course meal at a restaurant, eating the lot, even the after dinner mints and then refusing to pay because you claim to have not enjoyed the food.

Also, I haven't commentated on Barrowman's sexual antics yet but it really fuck's me off.  The stupid little cunt.  Just the thought of him stood there, getting his cock out and forcing everyone to look at it.  "Ooohhhh, it's really important that you look at my cock.  LOOK AT MY COCK!  What's your problem?!  Just look at my cock!  It is vital that you all look at my cock!"

Fuck off, Barrowman.  I hope you die in a ditch, you vile little cretinous and entitled piece of shit.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mr Trumpet on July 24, 2021, 06:01:37 PM
I don't think I'd demand a refund for anything simply because I didn't like it. If it wasn't as advertised or had something seriously wrong with it maybe. But it's a Shyamalan film, you know you're taking a gamble on quality.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on July 24, 2021, 06:08:32 PM
I've walked out of a couple of films but never asked for a refund. The closest I've come to that was when we went to a live stream of an RSC production of The Tempest  (https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2016/nov/18/the-tempest-review-simon-russell-beale-rsc)at the Festival Theatre in Embra, and that was only because the live link went down about five minutes from. the end, right in the middle of Simon Russell Beale delivering Prospero's big final speech, and even then we happily accepted some tickets to another screening rather than a refund.

You cheap-ass pervy bastard, Barrowman.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on July 24, 2021, 06:14:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/prDb52w.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Shit Good Nose on July 24, 2021, 07:10:57 PM
Quote from: Huxleys Babkins on July 21, 2021, 06:26:24 PM
Homophobic attack that, innit.

Was reminded of this earlier:

https://youtu.be/w1XOfHax6Q8

Barrowman says he came up with the line on the fly because the woman he was acting opposite was so wooden and he was desperate to get her to react with emotion to anything. Firstly, of course she's wooden. It's a straight-to-video horror movie, not an RSC production. Also, you're no Ian McKellen yourself, mate.

Quote from: PlanktonSideburns on July 21, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
Always hated that anecdote

(Ignoring everything else being mentioned about Barrowman in this thread...)  Not quite right - admittedly I've never seen the Ross interview, but he's never said she was wooden, he said she wasn't giving any reactions in that particular scene so the director, David Worth, told Barrowman to try to make her laugh to loosen her up, so he just came up with that line, not expecting it to be kept, but because she didn't react to that either, Worth put it in the film.  Corroborated by both Worth and Jenny Mcshane who, as I've mentioned on here several times in the past, was a member of the Empire magazine forum for a while (along with other notable members Ricco Ross and Mark Rolston from Aliens, and Neil Marshall [who left just prior to filming The Descent]).  Shark Attack 3 was the Empire forum's own obsession and that scene was talked about a LOT, and Mcshane confirmed Barrowman's and Worth's version of events.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Malcy on March 27, 2022, 04:38:07 PM
Police have dropped the investigation as the testimonies of the women involved 'would not meet the threshold for a criminal investigation'.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/03/27/noel-clarke-police-wont-investigate-after-sexual-harassment-claims-16352359/
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on March 27, 2022, 04:44:44 PM
QuoteA spokesman told the publication: 'We have updated the complainants. If any further allegations related to those already assessed are reported then it will be thoroughly considered.'

Brass neck of that. Yeah we didn't believe the first 22 complaints, but we'll have a good old ponder if there's a #23.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on March 27, 2022, 06:30:12 PM
My guess is that while he may be a creep (by his own admission) nothing he's accused of doing actually constituted criminal activity- ie, he may be guilty of sexual harassment but not a crime like sexual assault, voyeurism, flashing etc. Sounds like this could be more of a civil matter- and of course the complainants could still bring a civil case against him.

...but thinking about this I'm now wondering how the hell John Barrowman got off so lightly. I'm no legal expert but I'm pretty sure waving your genitals at people who don't want to look at them is a specific criminal offence.

EDIT: Just looked up the details and it seems Clarke actually was accused of voyeurism, flashing, coercion, and what could be a revenge porn offence... fucking hell.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on May 28, 2022, 11:50:20 PM
'I'm not a predator' says predator.

Apologies for the Daily Heil link, but it's the only place it appeared. In the quote below he claims to have considered suicide.

QuoteClarke, 46, a married father-of-four, is accused of being a sexual predator and a bully. Allegations – made by more than 20 women and spanning a 15-year period – include claims of unwanted touching or groping, sexually inappropriate behaviour and comments on set, the covert filming of a naked audition and the sharing of explicit pictures without consent.

Clarke, who grew up in a tough and impoverished part of West London, vehemently denies the claims. He has not, he says, been granted the presumption of innocence, let alone a fair hearing.

'Twenty years of work was gone in 24 hours,' he says, speaking for the first time about the allegations that destroyed his career. 'I lost everything. The company I built from the ground up, my TV shows, my movies, my book deals, the industry respect I had. In my heart and my head it has damaged me in a way I cannot articulate.'

In the past year, Clarke and his wife Iris, who have been together for two decades, have had a new baby they haven't dared tell anyone about. Financially the family has been left 'running on fumes'. Most seriously, at his lowest, Clarke was suicidal. He pocketed a folding hunting knife bought as a souvenir while filming Auf Wiedersehen, Pet in Arizona 20 years ago and planned to cut his own throat.

'I needed to do something unsurvivable,' he says today. 'I was reaching for a book and the knife fell out of my pocket. My one-year-old said, "Daddy, why have you got that?"

'I said, ''It's just to pick the dirt out of my nails..." And he said, 'Oh, OK," and somehow the ordinariness of that snapped me out of it. Up to that point, I had been waiting for the right moment to kill myself. I was out of here. Done. I didn't care about anything. My mind was destroyed.'

QuoteHe has been so traumatised he hasn't been able to watch TV for a year because he only sees people who have turned their backs on him.

He agreed to speak to The Mail on Sunday because there has been no day in court, no forum in which to publicly defend himself. He wants the film and TV industry to create a framework where 'women and vulnerable people are protected but which also protects people who may be thrown under the bus unjustly'.

Clarke makes a plea for the context of incidents and conversations to be considered and for women to 'differentiate between an evil guy and someone who might have made a mis-step'.

He also believes the entertainment industry needs to clean out its Augean stables in a calm and rational manner, saying: 'I am not trying to excuse evil men. But I think we are ALL here' – he means at this impasse – 'because of them.

'I'm not a predator. I have crossed the road to avoid walking behind women since I was 15 years old.'

He acknowledges that not all of his past behaviour has been beyond reproach, particularly when events of almost two decades ago are judged by the standards of today.

'I've been a regular dude, for sure, I flirt. Have I ever made a saucy comment? One hundred per cent. But not to the extent that it warranted the destruction of my life.

'I can't say I never talked about sex at work. We're adults in a workplace and people make jokes and have conversations with each other that cross the line. Sometimes you're with each other for six, seven months, away from home. I think sometimes these are just normal, or slightly inappropriate, conversations that people have. I was never involved in any conversation that I didn't believe was mutual, wasn't being reciprocated.

'Maybe I should have known better. But you know what, I didn't always know better.'

Clarke goes on to give specific rebuttals to some of the allegations.

He has apparently sued BAFTA and The Guardian for defamation. I can sort of see that this is his only hope. Even a full and abject apology wouldn't bring his career back. But I can't see the trial having the desired effect as there are too many separate allegations.

https://www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/features/186208/im-not-a-predator-doctor-who-star-noel-clarke-hits-back-at-allegations-in-explosive-first-interview
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: JamesTC on May 29, 2022, 12:47:42 AM
I don't understand why famous people waste their remaining money suing when their reputation is in tatters. He is probably well off, he could just live off his royalties and any money in the bank. Even if he has existing commitments like a mortgage, he could downsize his home and make do without needing to do much more work going forward.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on May 29, 2022, 12:55:10 AM
"He has been so traumatised he hasn't been able to watch TV for a year because he only sees people who have turned their backs on him."

FUCK YOU YOU DIDN'T STAND UP FOR JK ROWLING
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dex Sawash on May 29, 2022, 02:20:58 AM
Credible report of conversation with a 1 year old
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 02:31:45 AM
Quote from: Dex Sawash on May 29, 2022, 02:20:58 AMCredible report of conversation with a 1 year old

Yeah that stuck out to me as absolute cobblers. At that age you get a monosyllabic word or two, maybe, but it's basically incomprehensible.

The only part of his story I have personal experience of seems to be bullshit, but I'm sure he's telling the absolute truth about everything else.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 29, 2022, 02:46:09 AM
Yeah I'm sure it was all just a series of mis-steps, FFS.  What fucking context can you bring that changes unwanted contact and secretly filming people to 'actually it was fine to do what I did, actually'.

What a grade A fucking prick, he's not a sex pest, women just 'misunderstood his actions'.  Put him back in the cancelling machine for another 5 years.

EDIT
QuoteI have crossed the road to avoid walking behind women since I was 15 years old.'
What kind of fucking maniac thinks like this???
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Janie Jones on May 29, 2022, 08:36:30 AM
Quote from: Dex Sawash on May 29, 2022, 02:20:58 AMCredible report of conversation with a 1 year old


Quote from: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 02:31:45 AMYeah that stuck out to me as absolute cobblers.


The Daily Mail Online (which is different to the link posted above) says 'eleven year old' so I think 'one year old' is a mistake.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Zetetic on May 29, 2022, 09:44:43 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim link=msg=4931991EDIT What kind of fucking maniac thinks like this???
Lots of men, in some situations, I believe. Some of whom are sex pests, or worse, in other situations and some who aren't.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Martin Van Buren Stan on May 29, 2022, 09:57:55 AM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 29, 2022, 02:46:09 AMYeah I'm sure it was all just a series of mis-steps, FFS.  What fucking context can you bring that changes unwanted contact and secretly filming people to 'actually it was fine to do what I did, actually'.

What a grade A fucking prick, he's not a sex pest, women just 'misunderstood his actions'.  Put him back in the cancelling machine for another 5 years.

EDIT What kind of fucking maniac thinks like this???

Do you mean what kind of maniac thinks of crossing the road to avoid following a woman, or what kind of maniac thinks that's worth noting in an interview defending himself from abuse allegations?

I do the crossing the road thing myself, I thought it was pretty common
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on May 29, 2022, 10:18:49 AM
I do that, because I'm 6ft 1 and my legs are long so I'll catch up with with most woman rather quickly which can be rather awkward and potentially intimidating.

It's the Savile defence, though, isn't it? Doing good stuff to balance out the bad. No need to learn from your mistakes because you're already a good person.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 29, 2022, 11:34:35 AM
Maybe I'm not tall enough, but it's never crossed my mind.  Sounds mental.

EDIT:  To clarify, it doesn't matter if the person in front of me is male/female/whatever, I'm awkward enough it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Guppy on May 29, 2022, 11:40:03 AM
I do a lot of walking around at night like a loon, and if I find myself following a lone woman I'll sit on a wall and have a wee rest. Create a bit of distance.

I'm a big bloke but I'm also weedy and anxious, so I get nervous about blokes following me. It's gotta be even worse for women.

The alternative is to SPRINT at them so you can overtake quickly and they can relax. I always hear a gasp of relief when I thunder past them so I reckon I'm a top bloke.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sonny_Jim on May 29, 2022, 11:43:06 AM
I've done the whole pull a confused face, look at phone for a moment then stop for a bit routine, to get that personal space back.  Like a mini 20 second play about someone who forgot where they were going.  But it's always for my own anxiety, I've never done it because I think I'm scary to the other person.  Maybe it is me who is the real psychopath aaaaaahh
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: thelittlemango on May 29, 2022, 11:43:54 AM
I also do that, lots of friends have said it triggers them and makes them uneasy if walking down a street and they can see/hear a man walking behind them for a while or moving closer. Expecially if you're a quick walker, I cross the road so I can overtake without it feeling threatening to the other person, or if walking at the same pace so it doesn't seem like I'm following them so they don't feel uncomfortable.

Admittedly part of this is for selfish reasons as the overthinking about it makes me quite anxious.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 29, 2022, 12:29:39 PM
Thankfully i'm a short squat ball of fat and shame so I give off the absolute opposite of threat energy, so I would be able to walk around at night and pass a lone woman without getting maced.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on May 29, 2022, 12:53:25 PM
Quote from: Sonny_Jim on May 29, 2022, 11:34:35 AMMaybe I'm not tall enough, but it's never crossed my mind.  Sounds mental.

EDIT:  To clarify, it doesn't matter if the person in front of me is male/female/whatever, I'm awkward enough it doesn't matter.

We've had threads discussing the road crossing thing before, I think.

I've done it ever since a drunken walk home at university where a similarly drunk woman in front of me crossed the road, then a little while later crossed back, came up to me
Quote from: thelittlemango on May 29, 2022, 11:43:54 AMI also do that, lots of friends have said it triggers them and makes them uneasy if walking down a street and they can see/hear a man walking behind them for a while or moving closer. Expecially if you're a quick walker, I cross the road so I can overtake without it feeling threatening to the other person, or if walking at the same pace so it doesn't seem like I'm following them so they don't feel uncomfortable.

Admittedly part of this is for selfish reasons as the overthinking about it makes me quite anxious.

I've always crossed for the same reasons. Since COVID I've started doing it pretty much every time I walk past someone, whether it's the middle of the night or broad daylight. DONT MIND ME IM GOING TO NEITHER RAPE YOU NOR SNEEZE CORONAS INTO YOU
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on May 29, 2022, 12:58:44 PM
I won't link to it because it's in the thread about the phwoar thread, but we took a long rambling detour in that thread to avoid following a woman and while we were on that detour we talked about taking long rambling detours to avoid following a woman.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 01:17:10 PM
I also do the "person nearby alone walking home at night near me - create distance thing". If they aren't bothered then it makes no odds, if they are then it's a nice thing to do.

North America has lots of long streets on grid systems so if I'm going the same general direction as someone, I might walk behind them for 15-20 minutes. I can go half a block south then get on the next street in the grid and keep going my merry way and everyone's happy.

Bonus, I did this Friday night and made friends with a raccoon on a side street while pissed up. A victory.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 01:18:18 PM
Raccoon friend:

(https://i.imgur.com/3kilKZR.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 29, 2022, 01:25:01 PM
TRASH PANDA!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on May 29, 2022, 01:25:06 PM
Quote from: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 01:18:18 PMRaccoon friend:

(https://i.imgur.com/3kilKZR.jpg)

Good picture - it really shows just how pissed up he is. Wreckedoon.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 29, 2022, 01:28:00 PM
can confirm that men walking behind you at night is frightening regardless of their intention or character. can't read minds
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Alberon on May 29, 2022, 01:31:08 PM
I can get scared by a man walking behind me at night and I am a man.

Still, even if he's telling the truth, Clarke listing some times he's wasn't a pest doesn't start to make up for all the times he was.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: touchingcloth on May 29, 2022, 01:25:06 PMGood picture - it really shows just how pissed up he is. Wreckedoon.

Cunt was plastered. An absolute disgrace.

(The raccoon wasn't much better.)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: touchingcloth on May 29, 2022, 01:36:26 PM
"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them, women are afraid that men will kill them."

Why don't women cross the road before they laugh at me?

Hath not a man eyes? Hath not a man hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions; fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases,
heal'd by the same means, warm'd and cool'd by the same winter and summer, as a woman is?

Cruelty, thy name is woman.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 29, 2022, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 29, 2022, 01:28:00 PMcan confirm that men walking behind you at night is frightening regardless of their intention or character. can't read minds

It's also frustrating to be told "Not All Men Are Like That" in a world where rape victims are also told they were naive and shouldn't have been so trusting. You just can't win here.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Malcy on May 29, 2022, 05:44:22 PM
I've also crossed a road rather than walk up behind a woman. Anyone really. More so late at night when the streets are empty. I think it's just a sign of the times and done to put someone at ease. I don't like it if it's me with someone walking behind me.

Even if i cross to pass them and then cross over again to get where I'm going it just seems like a good thing to do.

A month or two back I was walking the long road home and there was a fairly hammered woman not far in front of me so I was hanging back and slowing down etc and she ended up on her phone asking someone to collect her as I think she was quite wary despite being all over the pavement. Got a proper slowed down drive by stare by whoever picked her up and i just nodded as if to say "no need to panic".
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Blue Jam on May 29, 2022, 06:20:50 PM
Quote from: Malcy on May 29, 2022, 05:44:22 PMGot a proper slowed down drive by stare by whoever picked her up and i just nodded as if to say "no need to panic".

I once had a woman trying to sell me stolen DVDs and following me for a bit until I shouted words at her to the effect of "Get away from me". As I did a tall bloke happened to be passing and thought I was shouting at him and held his hands up in an "I mean no harm" gesture and went "Sorry!" and scarpered off.

The first case of internalised misandry I have experienced. I felt a bit bad about that tbh. Poor guy.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Malcy on May 29, 2022, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: Blue Jam on May 29, 2022, 06:20:50 PMI once had a woman trying to sell me stolen DVDs and following me for a bit until I shouted words at her to the effect of "Get away from me". As I did a tall bloke happened to be passing and thought I was shouting at him and held his hands up in an "I mean no harm" gesture and went "Sorry!" and scarpered off.

The first case of internalised misandry I have experienced. I felt a bit bad about that tbh. Poor guy.

Brilliant! But sad as well. Either that or you scared off a penitential attacker pre-emptively!
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Voltan (Man of Steel) on May 29, 2022, 07:08:00 PM
I'm another one who's crossed the road to avoid walking behind a lone female at night. In fact, as I posted in another thread a couple of years ago, to provide further "reassurance" I've made pretend phone calls in a sing-songy voice to try to present myself as the least threatening person around: "Hiya, only me! No, it's Voltan, you silly sausage! Ooh, what are we like!?" etc. It probably makes me sound like a maniac but that's not my intention.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Bumlord on May 29, 2022, 09:05:34 PM
I never walk behind lone women, especially at night. Sometimes I'll alter my route completely to avoid putting the shits up anyone. Again, thought this was the accepted way to behave.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Butchers Blind on May 29, 2022, 09:17:11 PM
Same here regarding crossing the road, and always shout a courteous, "You're ok, I'm not a rapist" to make them more at ease.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: Voltan (Man of Steel) on May 29, 2022, 07:08:00 PMI'm another one who's crossed the road to avoid walking behind a lone female at night. In fact, as I posted in another thread a couple of years ago, to provide further "reassurance" I've made pretend phone calls in a sing-songy voice to try to present myself as the least threatening person around: "Hiya, only me! No, it's Voltan, you silly sausage! Ooh, what are we like!?" etc. It probably makes me sound like a maniac but that's not my intention.

"Mom? Yeah... I think I'm being followed by Duncan Norvelle... no I'm not alright..."
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Brundle-Fly on May 29, 2022, 09:21:00 PM
I don't like it at night when you're walking behind a lone woman on the street where you live, and as you near them, you duck into your flat. I'm always worried they might have a quick glance behind and wonder why I've suddenly disappeared, so I noisily jingle keys and loudly shut the door which I suspect pisses off the neighbours no end.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: bgmnts on May 29, 2022, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 29, 2022, 12:29:39 PMThankfully i'm a short squat ball of fat and shame so I give off the absolute opposite of threat energy, so I would be able to walk around at night and pass a lone woman without getting maced.

I'm not even joking by the way, one night, two women asked me, a stranger they didnt know on their own in a pub, to look after their drinks while they went outside for a fag.

I'm such a lack of threat I could play up front for Arsenal.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 11:25:15 PM
I remember one evening where I kept dodging down side streets to avoid following a young woman walking down the street (we were both walking from a big collection of bars to the west of the city).

I kept crossing the road, taking shortcuts, switching to other streets etc until we both sort of realized she kept finding me which probably happened 6 times in 30 minutes, at which point we shared a laugh and kept walking. Turns out she lives about 6 doors down from me.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Mister Six on May 30, 2022, 03:15:26 AM
Quote from: bgmnts on May 29, 2022, 09:26:49 PMI'm not even joking by the way, one night, two women asked me, a stranger they didnt know on their own in a pub, to look after their drinks while they went outside for a fag.

I'm such a lack of threat I could play up front for Arsenal.

Aye, but if you're walking up behind a woman at night, she's not going to know how distinctly unthreatening you are, unless your footstep is some kind of jaunty jig.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: jamiefairlie on May 30, 2022, 04:33:51 AM
Quote from: Mister Six on May 30, 2022, 03:15:26 AMAye, but if you're walking up behind a woman at night, she's not going to know how distinctly unthreatening you are, unless your footstep is some kind of jaunty jig.

Even then he could be the infamous jaunty jig footstep killer of lore
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Bumlord on May 30, 2022, 08:03:32 AM
Quote from: Ferris on May 29, 2022, 11:25:15 PMI remember one evening where I kept dodging down side streets to avoid following a young woman walking down the street (we were both walking from a big collection of bars to the west of the city).

I kept crossing the road, taking shortcuts, switching to other streets etc until we both sort of realized she kept finding me which probably happened 6 times in 30 minutes, at which point we shared a laugh and kept walking. Turns out she lives about 6 doors down from me.

If you're not happily married now then this is a sad tale.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Twit 2 on May 30, 2022, 10:15:37 AM
Quote from: Butchers Blind on May 29, 2022, 09:17:11 PMSame here regarding crossing the road, and always shout a courteous, "You're ok, I'm not a rapist" to make them more at ease.

I have a friend who actually said this once.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Dr Rock on May 30, 2022, 10:19:53 AM
Hmm. Seems like something a rapist would say.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Lord Mandrake on May 30, 2022, 10:21:20 AM
Morris men never have to engage in this awkward social dance. Makes you think.   
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: The Guppy on May 30, 2022, 10:25:36 AM
Imagine a morris man plodding after you down a dark alley. Pure horror
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Lord Mandrake on May 30, 2022, 10:32:38 AM
Jangling away behind you? Perhaps he's dragging his stick against some railings, Surely a great comfort and reassuring presence.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Thomas on May 30, 2022, 10:44:26 AM
QuoteNorwegian film producer Synne Seltveit claims that Clarke slapped her buttocks during a night out in Glasgow in 2015 and then later sent her an explicit picture via Snapchat.

On her first allegation, Clarke responds with a clear denial: 'I never slapped her bottom and would never have done that.'

But his response to her second allegation is less definite. He claimed that they, along with others, engaged in 'banter' about sex that evening, and says: 'I don't recall sending anything. But if I did, it was in the context of the conversation that we all had. I now know that what I regarded as banter is far from appropriate – and it has taken this experience to understand that.'

A cynical reader might observe that the unprovable (a bum-slap lost to time) has been denied, but the potentially provable (a photo that might still exist) simply 'can't be recalled'.

Quote from: The Guppy on May 30, 2022, 10:25:36 AMImagine a morris man plodding after you down a dark alley. Pure horror

In 2015 I was startled to see a Morris man in full blackface on a bus in Derby.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Natnar on May 30, 2022, 10:45:52 AM
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/E0913G/black-face-border-style-morris-man-at-annual-sweeps-festival-rochester-E0913G.jpg)
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Attila on May 30, 2022, 10:55:54 AM
Quote from: The Guppy on May 30, 2022, 10:25:36 AMImagine a morris man plodding after you down a dark alley. Pure horror

Need a gif of Mark Heap as the Tin Man (complete with music) here.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Sherringford Hovis on May 30, 2022, 01:52:11 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 09:19:15 PM"Mom? Yeah... I think I'm being followed by Duncan Norvelle... no I'm not alright..."

Our Dunc prefers to be chased, not do the chasing - or is that the joke? There's so many subtle layers of nuance to this place now it's been going so long, I can't keep up.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYzIwYmRhZDAtZWUxMS00MmFjLWI3NjQtM2FiYWJiNzAxMjhiXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMDIzNDc0MA@@._V1_UY200_CR29,0,200,200_AL_.jpg)

Anyway, I'm worried about my Mum's cousin coz his name is Noel and he seems a nice chap, but nominative determinism is inevitable.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Voltan (Man of Steel) on May 30, 2022, 02:07:23 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 29, 2022, 09:19:15 PM"Mom? Yeah... I think I'm being followed by Duncan Norvelle... no I'm not alright..."

I think I probably give off more of an Alan Carr vibe.
Title: Re: I hear you're a pest now, Noel Clarke?
Post by: Fishfinger on May 30, 2022, 07:16:12 PM
Quote from: Thomas on May 30, 2022, 10:44:26 AMIn 2015 I was startled to see a Morris man in full blackface on a bus in Derby.

One's nightbus reflection is often a soulful moment.