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Title: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 07, 2021, 06:32:12 PM
The following countries are on the green list, where people can travel to and not have to quarantine:

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Portugal
Israel
Singapore
Australia
New Zealand
Brunei
Iceland
Gibraltar
Falkland Islands
Faroe Islands
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
St Helena, Tristan de Cunha, Ascension Island

Of course Australia, Singapore and New Zealand have their borders closed at the moments.

COVID tests will be required before and after travel to those on the green list. I expect Portugal will be the main beneficiary of being on the green list. Perhaps there will be a resurge in Falklands Island tourism among gammons (I'd be interested to visit if it wasn't so environmentally damaging).

Meanwhile, Turkey, Maldives and Nepal go on the red list from 0400 BST Wednesday.

More information on the rules can be found here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-52544307

I haven't been anywhere outside of England or Wales for a decade and doubt I'll be going anywhere aside from hopefully Scotland, NI and ROI in the next decade.

Anyone got any overseas holiday planned from 17th May and will they be affected by which countries are on the green list and which aren't? Given how quickly things could change booking a holiday abroad must feel a bit uncertain still.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: bgmnts on May 07, 2021, 06:34:13 PM
Finally I can go to the South Sandwich Islands!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: BlodwynPig on May 07, 2021, 06:39:10 PM
Finally I can go to the South Sandwich Islands!

Damn, I'm headed to the North Sandwiches, or else we could have had a ...(looks it up)...CaB South Atlantic meet.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on May 07, 2021, 06:57:31 PM
Barring their hitting the red list (which they’re bound to now, the universe is specifically configured to fuck with me), I’m going to Greece this summer. Have squirrelled away ten days extra leave in case we have to isolate at home on return. I need a break, I’ve had it with this fucking country and its population of racist morons, and just want to be somewhere else for a while.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on May 07, 2021, 06:58:25 PM
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Ireland has retained its “supergreen” status, with no significant checks for incoming travellers to the UK thanks to its membership of the Common Travel Area.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fishfinger on May 07, 2021, 07:00:03 PM
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Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 07, 2021, 07:10:47 PM
I wouldn't even visit a friend by a train at the moment let along get a fucking flight. Cunts are mad.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: DrGreggles on May 07, 2021, 07:14:52 PM
BUT I WANNA GO 'MERICA!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: flotemysost on May 08, 2021, 10:28:54 AM
One of my flatmates (who is a key worker and can't afford to take time off to quarantine) is hoping to be able to see her family for the first time in over a year, so that's nice.

I'm not gonna be booking any holidays abroad any time soon though. TAP fights to Portugal are about 500 quid either way at the  moment anyway, unsurprisingly.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on May 08, 2021, 11:09:04 AM
I cannat be fooked with it either for the time being. Maybe late autumn if there's good news continent-wide. The expense and hassle is definitely winning out over the positives of being there.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on May 08, 2021, 12:09:50 PM
We’ve booked everything. Did so months ago. With free cancellation of course. We haven’t paid for the place we stay at yet, just a deposit, but the owners know us and will let that deposit roll over to next year. Does that sound reckless or insensitive? But we figured, it would either be sorted out by then or it wouldn’t. We had to do something to make ourselves feel like we had some say in our destiny, rather than just another year in limbo. And if it happens, it’ll be nice to put one over on the cunts who a) will go on holiday regardless of what the situation is by then, and fuck everybody else; and b) can afford to pay the inflated prices that are now being charged.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: BlodwynPig on May 08, 2021, 12:23:16 PM
I cannat be fooked with it either for the time being. Maybe late autumn if there's good news continent-wide. The expense and hassle is definitely winning out over the positives of being there.

I'm booked for a trip around Central Europe in autumn if you want to join me ;) It's just me and the lads, Otto, Brandt, Vaslev and Dirk.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 08, 2021, 02:58:12 PM
Written off for another year, too much mither.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: seepage on May 08, 2021, 05:29:40 PM
Funchal in November, but as as Portugal's on the green list, bound to be overbooked and I'll get shunted off to a different hotel in the chain that's miles from the centre, as is the custom.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on May 08, 2021, 05:52:04 PM
Didn’t realize this was on the cards. Will St Boris and chums be updating this list regularly? I’m assuming it is based on vaccine rates and local caseload?

Would be nice to have family visit soon if we can.

Edit: yeah ostensibly determined by vaccines and case numbers per the BBC article.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Dex Sawash on May 08, 2021, 06:24:02 PM
May drive up to Virginia this afternoon or tomorrow
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 08, 2021, 11:41:07 PM
May drive up to Virginia this afternoon or tomorrow

Check out Mr Big Balls
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on May 09, 2021, 06:40:01 PM
SAGE and other scientists concerned about UK international travel plans: https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2021/may/09/traffic-light-travel-plan-will-let-new-covid-variants-into-uk-scientists-warn
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Pinball on May 10, 2021, 11:17:04 PM
If stupid people want to catch Covid, go for it.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Blinder Data on May 17, 2021, 01:04:18 PM
People are flying out on summer holidays today.

Good for them! I'm so happy that normal life is returning.

*FAST FOWARD TO OCTOBER 2021*

Daily Mail: "Cases rising as new Torremolinos variant means UK's COVID death toll reaches grim milestone"

My goodness! Who could've seen this coming...?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: BlodwynPig on May 17, 2021, 03:46:51 PM
People are flying out on summer holidays today.

Good for them! I'm so happy that normal life is returning.

*FAST FOWARD TO OCTOBER 2021*

Daily Mail: "Cases rising as new Torremolinos variant means UK's COVID death toll reaches grim milestone"

My goodness! Who could've seen this coming...?

Blight Back in Blighty!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: shiftwork2 on May 17, 2021, 06:53:49 PM
AL GRAVE more like.

Would be nice though, had half an eye on a Lisbon city break but it's just too much bleedin' mither.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 03, 2021, 03:46:26 PM
Portugal now on amber list.

The following countries are going to be added to the red list:

Afghanistan
Bahrain
Costa Rica
Egypt
Sudan
Trinidad and Tobago
Sri Lanka
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 03, 2021, 03:53:04 PM
Bang goes my weekend in the Sudan :(
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Bleeding Kansas on June 03, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
What about South Sudan?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on June 03, 2021, 04:15:10 PM
South Sudan is on the amber list.

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Portugal is currently on the green list, but the BBC understands it will move to the amber list from Tuesday 8 June.

Portugal has declared a "situation of calamity" until at least 13 June

We'll see a rush of UK holidaymakers trying to get back before the 8th June now. I suppose the hope is that if they give five days rather than two there won't be so many people travelling at once.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Bleeding Kansas on June 03, 2021, 04:35:30 PM
Bang goes my weekend in the Sudan :(
South Sudan is on the amber list..

Problem Solved
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 03, 2021, 05:21:17 PM
South Sudan is on the amber list.

We'll see a rush of UK holidaymakers trying to get back before the 8th June now. I suppose the hope is that if they give five days rather than two there won't be so many people travelling at once.

Best bung them on quarantine ships from what im hearing. Its another fuckdown, unfortunately
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: jobotic on June 03, 2021, 05:36:57 PM
FFS. Another feeling of panic then.

Why is there another fuckdown? because the variant is too strong for the vaccines?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: bgmnts on June 03, 2021, 06:16:00 PM
Can't believe we're banned from Trinidad AND Tobago.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 03, 2021, 06:47:43 PM
FFS. Another feeling of panic then.

Why is there another fuckdown? because the variant is too strong for the vaccines?

If you've been vaccinated twice, things are looking ok with respect to antibodies - sharp jump up towards 80-100% - better if you are Pfizer and female.

Hospitalisations occurring more in the young (i.e. unvaccinated).

R number > 1 with significant confidence, doubling time < week in some instances. Delta variant to blame. Can't say more on that...

Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Chedney Honks on June 03, 2021, 07:07:21 PM
I actually have a holiday to Portugal booked for the winter which was bumped from last year. Should be fine by then. Just gonna roll it if not possible.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: bgmnts on June 03, 2021, 07:12:49 PM
I'm actually going to be recreating Dante Alighieri's trek up Mount Purgatorio in a few months so I hope all travel bans are gone by then.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Kankurette on June 03, 2021, 07:32:03 PM
I cannat be fooked with it either for the time being. Maybe late autumn if there's good news continent-wide. The expense and hassle is definitely winning out over the positives of being there.
Me neither. I'm not going abroad until next year at least, now that Primavera's been cancelled again. And fucking Brexit just complicates things.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Blue Jam on June 09, 2021, 09:36:13 AM
You could always go on a cruise of the UK, on a ship which usually sleeps 6,000 but currently has a limit of 900 and feels like a ghost ship. Except you can't even do that now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57406705

Pure deso.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: steveh on June 09, 2021, 09:57:55 AM
Walking across Hampstead Heath yesterday there was a woman ahead of me who was having a long phone conversation about how because of lockdown they'd had to move all their holidays for the year to the autumn so now she had Dubai, St Lucia and The Maldives one after the other and she really didn't know how she was going to manage it all. Tough life innit.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 21, 2021, 08:07:43 PM
Has there been any update on this? It looks like direct family of Canadian citizens can enter the country without quarantine as of July 5th as long as they’ve been vaxxed to high heaven and test negative before and after their flight under a family reunion exemption.

I haven’t seen anything from the UK gov though, thought they’d be desperate for a bit of the old travel.

The UK gov website says you “should not” travel to an amber/red country, but is that the same as “we’ll stop you or you’ll get in shit if you try it”? Or like “we advise against it” but the advice of a load of old etonians can be safely discarded.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on June 21, 2021, 08:09:14 PM
Yes, it's an absolute farce.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on June 21, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
Not as much of a farce as the nearest international airport being a 13hr drive away, I assure you.

My mum works as a school librarian and once September rolls around, we’re stuck waiting until Christmas so I’m a bit more willing to try and make travel happen before then. We’re all vaccinated and willing to do whatever the relevant governments want us to, but it’s not clear exactly what those requirements are.

On the Canadian end, they’d have to fly to Montréal then on here, and go through federal and provincial border checks (both of which change on a weekly basis it seems like). I can work out the logistics of that without too much hassle (probably just an extra connecting flight and another covid test or two), but I don’t understand the UK regulations and I’m wondering if they’ve filtered through to popular reporting as a result you lot have a clearer picture of it all.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 15, 2021, 09:01:21 AM
The travel industry aren't happy about the government moving the Baleric islands onto the amber list from Monday. However Shapps has said that case rates have doubled since the islands were added to the green watchlist. I don't usually defend the government but it seems entirely logical to move the Baleric islands to the amber list. Whether they should do it earlier is another question.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mippy on July 22, 2021, 12:33:56 PM
Have a trip to Chicago booked for October, which is looking increasingly unlikely. Especially as AZ isn't one of the vaccines approved by the FDA.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on July 22, 2021, 09:14:08 PM
We’ve bitten the bullet and cancelled our holiday in Greece. And have made alternative arrangements. It can be intermittently useful having a spouse who has family in the Channel Islands… 👍
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: imitationleather on July 22, 2021, 09:28:38 PM
One of my mates has just moved to Rome and he keeps sending me WhatsApp videos of him in bars eating cheap as shit meat skewers.

Let me in, Italy. I wanna do that too!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 22, 2021, 10:45:01 PM
Mater and pater have booked their flights to Canada.

Smell ya later, plague island[1]!
 1. from Monday onwards
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 22, 2021, 11:29:16 PM
You could always go on a cruise of the UK, on a ship which usually sleeps 6,000 but currently has a limit of 900 and feels like a ghost ship. Except you can't even do that now:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-57406705

Pure deso.

Cruise ships do seem inherently awful but by far I'd have to say the most outputting thing about them is the fact they'd be full of people who want to go on cruise ships.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: idunnosomename on July 23, 2021, 12:04:29 AM
I'm actually going to be recreating Dante Alighieri's trek up Mount Purgatorio in a few months so I hope all travel bans are gone by then.
dont you have to go up lucifer's bum to get there? not really in the spirit of social distancing that
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on July 23, 2021, 08:02:49 AM
As far as I can tell, with regards to travelling to Poland, you just need proof of being double-jabbed. To get back onto Plague Island you need to have a test within 3 days of your return flight, then another within 3 days of your arrival back here.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 23, 2021, 12:58:04 PM
As far as I can tell, with regards to travelling to Poland, you just need proof of being double-jabbed. To get back onto Plague Island you need to have a test within 3 days of your return flight, then another within 3 days of your arrival back here.

Same for Canada. One test 72hrs before you leave and another 72hrs before you return, and proof of vaccine status.

I’m not saying it’s easy (Poland may have additional restrictions - Canada does so that’s just half of the requirements) and it’s a lot of hoops to jump through, but it is much more feasible now than even a few months ago. If you think it’ll be beneficial, I think it’s fine to go.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on July 23, 2021, 03:37:02 PM
As far as I can tell, with regards to travelling to Poland, you just need proof of being double-jabbed. To get back onto Plague Island you need to have a test within 3 days of your return flight, then another within 3 days of your arrival back here.

That's also my understanding for amber list countries, assuming you were double jabbed in the UK, otherwise you have to quarantine as well. It's ridiculous how the UK is still unable to recognise the standard vaccination certificate used throughout the EU, while most EU countries will accept UK vaccination certificates (whether they should or not is another issue).
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 30, 2021, 10:07:18 AM
Given the majority of France's Beta coronavirus cases are coming from the island of La Reunion, why isn't La Reunion on the UK's red list? At the moment it is on the amber list.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 02, 2021, 08:14:22 AM
Went to book getting 2-day test for our return. Most clock in at around £75 per test, you really have to dig through a lot of crap (On-site tests are just as expensive) to find the few that are relatively affordable. £25 is the cheapest we have found.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 02, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
Went to book getting 2-day test for our return. Most clock in at around £75 per test, you really have to dig through a lot of crap (On-site tests are just as expensive) to find the few that are relatively affordable. £25 is the cheapest we have found.

What place did you end up booking with? Have to book some for my folks when they get back.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 02, 2021, 02:26:20 PM
What place did you end up booking with? Have to book some for my folks when they get back.

I'll check later and get back to you as girlfriend did it on her computer. You pre-order them so they get sent so they (should) arrive within 2 days of landing back in the UK. Complete the test and then send it back (website was unclear as to whether you pay for the postage or not) via an approved COVID post office (or something like that). Seems like most POs are OK for it.

Some of the links were for places on Harley Street etc, with some clocking in at £175 per person. Ridiculous.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on August 02, 2021, 02:52:22 PM
That would be helpful, the going rate for the day-2 home test seems to be about 70 quid, which seems a little steep. The prices on the gov.uk website seem to be completely wrong.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 02, 2021, 04:15:46 PM
I'll check later and get back to you as girlfriend did it on her computer. You pre-order them so they get sent so they (should) arrive within 2 days of landing back in the UK. Complete the test and then send it back (website was unclear as to whether you pay for the postage or not) via an approved COVID post office (or something like that). Seems like most POs are OK for it.

Some of the links were for places on Harley Street etc, with some clocking in at £175 per person. Ridiculous.

Yeah that’s what I’ve been seeing as well.

On this end we just gave up and spent 2x £150 to get it done because there are far fewer private providers in my bit of Canada (healthcare system provides walk-in same day PCR tests free, no questions asked, results back in an hour or two so why would anyone go private?!), but I haven’t a clue on the UK side.

That service sounds perfect if you manage to find the name and I’ll give them a go.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 02, 2021, 07:00:53 PM
It seems to be the same here, the list of testing companies is ranked by ascending price, and yet the notionally cheapest will turn out to be unavailable or no test slots until September or you have to attend in person but their one site in the country isn’t anywhere near you.

I said to MrsMoth today that I’m yet to have any moment of “Drat, it looks like we could have gone to Greece after all” - and she agreed…
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on August 02, 2021, 09:26:33 PM
It seems to be the same here, the list of testing companies is ranked by ascending price, and yet the notionally cheapest will turn out to be unavailable or no test slots until September or you have to attend in person but their one site in the country isn’t anywhere near you.

I said to MrsMoth today that I’m yet to have any moment of “Drat, it looks like we could have gone to Greece after all” - and she agreed…

I found that most of the tests priced less than £40 were simply not available or actually priced at 70+ when you get to the website. The cheapest available test I could find was around £40, so I decided to order one of them, then at the last stage of the checkout they added another £10 shipping and £10 VAT. Wankers. I still ordered it though because I'd already typed all my details in, and assumed all the others providers would probably just do the same.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on August 02, 2021, 10:39:06 PM
Cheapest I could find a month ago were Randox with an easyjet discount code
https://www.easyjet.com/en/covid-19-travel-hub/covid-19-testing-providers
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 03, 2021, 01:34:18 PM
Sorry, I forgot to ask my girlfriend last night, but i have just messaged her so she will look (we need to book ours as well) when she gets home from work.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 03, 2021, 06:48:45 PM
Scrap this, the £29 quid test had 1.5 out of stars with 86% of 519 reviews giving it the worst review. They all seem to be total dogshit regardless of price. Best so far seems to be Nomad Travel at £35. Only 9 reviews to base it off though.

What happens if you don't take the test?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 03, 2021, 07:14:21 PM
They fine you 500 quid a go I think!

Will keep looking but it’s good to have some names to start out with. Thanks!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 03, 2021, 07:44:01 PM
We went with HASU Diagnostics as they had the best reviews £48 for Amber day 2 only test at home with £8 delivery. Think it's free to return it, but who knows as all these sites are pretty opaque with contradictory statements on different pages.

We also looked at:
Randox (Shit)
Nomad Travel (probably 2nd best and cheaper than above)
(something) 440... (Shit)
Breathe Assured (Shit, because it's actually Randox)
Expert-Medicals (Total AIDS, this is the 519 reviewed 86% AIDS)

Basically, you know when you see that Matt Hancock has given his mate 576 million quid?, Well, it's probably these jokers.

Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 03, 2021, 09:51:17 PM
Oh nice one, appreciate the heads up. We’re a few weeks away from needing it, but good to know.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: thelittlemango on August 03, 2021, 11:06:17 PM
If you go on the NHS website and click to say you've been in contact with someone who has had symptoms you can get free PCR tests and results within a day of postage, is that not allowed somehow?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 04, 2021, 12:36:02 AM
Though I guess you could possibly get away with it, in theory you’re meant to isolate for a certain amount of time after the contact regardless of what the test comes back as. I think - the rules are so complicated and seem to change all the time anyway. So you could find yourself with some tricky questions to answer. As I say, chances are you might get away with it because they don’t seem to be that joined up, but Sod’s law you’d be the one who’d get done for one minor transgression while all the cunts who flaunt the rules swan by unmolested…
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 04, 2021, 07:58:32 AM
Oh nice one, appreciate the heads up. We’re a few weeks away from needing it, but good to know.

We're away next Wednesday and back the following Wednesday, so I should be able to let you know if HASU Diagnostics are any good before you need to book anything.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on August 04, 2021, 10:09:02 AM
I'm meant to travel to Spain for a research thing in early September, and apparently they will accept the NHS's 'covid passport', but fuck me, is it an exercise in frustration trying to get one when you haven't got a Smart phone.

Just to see what's involved in good time, I've been trying to generate one this morning -- Spain requires that the NHS 'passport' matches the way your name appears on your UK passport; this is something I want to check now, as I think with the NHS, I'm just registered as FirstName Surname, whereas my UK passport is FirstName MiddleName Surname.

Just trying to get to the NHS passport is frustrating the heck out of me -- fair enough they want to be very careful about confirming your identity, but so far I've had to enter my log in name and password twice, provide them with a number they sent to me by text; they've wanted a photo ID scanned in (passport, driving licence), and I gave up when I got to the page asking me to make a video of me reciting a series of numbers (this PC hasn't got a camera/mic on it, so I'd have to get out my laptop for all that).

I really do'nt want to have to buy a Smartphone just to do this :(  (I rarely phone anyone and rarely text -- I've just got a pay-as-you-go phone, so a Smartphone would be a monthly expense I don't need, and would languish in a drawer most of the time).

Thing is, I generated one of these Covd passports off the NHS site a couple of weeks ago, no probs -- entered in my details and NHS number, and got back a file with a QR code to print out. I guess they've upped security and double checking ID since then.

The main thing is, I need to check to make sure whatever the NHS cranks out matches the name on my passport, because if it doesn't, I'll have to contact the GP ? I guess? No idea -- I registered with a GP only because I had to for the vaccines. This is stressing me out way more than it should, I think.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on August 04, 2021, 10:20:18 AM
Different standards, I believe.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on August 04, 2021, 12:06:44 PM
We went with HASU Diagnostics as they had the best reviews £48 for Amber day 2 only test at home with £8 delivery. Think it's free to return it, but who knows as all these sites are pretty opaque with contradictory statements on different pages.

We also looked at:
Randox (Shit)
Nomad Travel (probably 2nd best and cheaper than above)
(something) 440... (Shit)
Breathe Assured (Shit, because it's actually Randox)
Expert-Medicals (Total AIDS, this is the 519 reviewed 86% AIDS)

Basically, you know when you see that Matt Hancock has given his mate 576 million quid?, Well, it's probably these jokers.

I ordered my test kit from "Brunswick Hygiene". I didn't think to check for reviews but I wish I had, because their reviews are terrible, with mentions of delayed results and non-existent customer service. Some people also complained that they don't analyse the tests themselves, instead they act as a kind of broker with the tests being sent to different labs around the UK, but this is actually very clear from their website if people would bother to read it. My experience so far is mixed, I didn't like being stung with an extra £20 for shipping and VAT at the last stage of the lengthy checkout process, but they did dispatch the kit really quickly, and it arrived at my mum's house the next morning. I'm not bothered if there are delays getting the results back, I would have cared under the old test-to-release scheme, but now that the quarantine requirement has been lifted I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on August 04, 2021, 12:07:26 PM
double post
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 04, 2021, 12:11:14 PM
Due to Ireland's rules relaxing - no test or quarantine for double jabbed people - I'm thinking of heading to Dublin in early September, hopefully that will be in a low point in infections before schools go back.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 05, 2021, 10:52:24 AM
We're away next Wednesday and back the following Wednesday, so I should be able to let you know if HASU Diagnostics are any good before you need to book anything.

Further update. We ordered the tests on Tuesday evening and they arrived today. I thought we were supposed to message them 2 days prior to returning to the UK, but clearly not. You have enter details of flights back to the UK when you order them, so it's not like they don't have the correct information.

Anyway, got them, so when we get back we'll do them and send them, then it's not our problem anymore.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: bgmnts on August 05, 2021, 01:07:03 PM
Listening to these cunts whinging about their holibobs possibly being inconvenienced does make me realise that despite how fucked we all generally are, our way of life is mostly cushy as fuck.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fr.Bigley on August 05, 2021, 01:10:16 PM
Literally just done day two test after being in the nordics, I paid 99 quid for 2 and day 8 which isn't that bad. Kit arrived on time and has a tracking number in real time. Mines currently half way to its destination.

Have to quarantine now. 10 days off work..awful.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 05, 2021, 03:04:11 PM
If you go on the NHS website and click to say you've been in contact with someone who has had symptoms you can get free PCR tests and results within a day of postage, is that not allowed somehow?

Some of the testing centres handing out lateral flows will chuck in a PCR while you're there; I saw no mention of it online but I turned up they just said 'the current recommendations are everyone who comes here should have one but you don't have to'. The official guff online made it seem like they were rationing them.

I guess it might vary by centre and location but it might be worth a punt.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Kankurette on August 05, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Listening to these cunts whinging about their holibobs possibly being inconvenienced does make me realise that despite how fucked we all generally are, our way of life is mostly cushy as fuck.
Tbh I'm not going on holiday outside the UK until I know it's safe and I don't have to quarantine. Even if it means missing Primavera 2022.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 06, 2021, 12:37:29 PM
Listening to these cunts whinging about their holibobs possibly being inconvenienced does make me realise that despite how fucked we all generally are, our way of life is mostly cushy as fuck.

I suppose the only thing worth conceding is that due to restrictions being eased, general activity is already at such a level where infection is rife, and spreading internationally regardless of restrictions, so you could equally go 'aw diddums' at people who want to go clubbing or go to a gig or a football match.

But it's a classic case of moving the goalposts because if Covid was to vanish overnight it would become 'well you shouldn't go abroad anyway cos environment'.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: bgmnts on August 06, 2021, 12:42:55 PM
so you could equally go 'aw diddums' at people who want to go clubbing or go to a gig or a football match

Most definitely.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 12, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
Travelled yesterday and all fine. Only difference was the queue at passport control taking 3 times as long cos some people seemingly not bringing docs or knowing how to use the Internet. Flight full to brim with lots of arse holes nit wearing masks correctly, much to exasperation of cabin staff, including one who when told off put the mask over his eyes instead.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: buttgammon on August 12, 2021, 09:42:06 AM
Travelled yesterday and all fine. Only difference was the queue at passport control taking 3 times as long cos some people seemingly not bringing docs or knowing how to use the Internet. Flight full to brim with lots of arse holes nit wearing masks correctly, much to exasperation of cabin staff, including one who when told off put the mask over his eyes instead.

Glad you made it but wow, that is some level of stupidity.

I'm fully vaccinated and now considering going home for the first time since the end of 2019. I'm lucky to get a choice between flying or getting the ferry and it just feels much safer to travel by ferry the way things are. Perhaps it's my imagination, but despite it being a longer journey, I get the feeling I'd be less at the mercy of other people and their idiotic behaviour. It would also mean not having to travel through England, which has to be a good thing at the moment. At least Wales acknowledges that the virus still exists.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 12, 2021, 10:22:48 AM
My mate made the opposite journey (Poland to UK) the same day and said that he could have got through UK COVID checks with a picture of his dick as long as it was printed on A4 paper given the amount of attention shown to it.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 12, 2021, 10:25:53 AM
Glad you made it but wow, that is some level of stupidity.

I'm fully vaccinated and now considering going home for the first time since the end of 2019. I'm lucky to get a choice between flying or getting the ferry and it just feels much safer to travel by ferry the way things are. Perhaps it's my imagination, but despite it being a longer journey, I get the feeling I'd be less at the mercy of other people and their idiotic behaviour. It would also mean not having to travel through England, which has to be a good thing at the moment. At least Wales acknowledges that the virus still exists.

Ferry would be best. More space and can go outside. Safer than having a plane full of people trying to hotbox it with COVID 19.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fr.Bigley on August 12, 2021, 10:28:28 AM
Went through Helsinki last week. A dream. Super on it, speedy, clean, efficient and to top it off had an embraer 190 practically to ourselves. Wonderful experience. Manchester airport on the other hand....
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 12, 2021, 04:53:45 PM
Ferry would be best. More space and can go outside. Safer than having a plane full of people trying to hotbox it with COVID 19.

Fingers crossed then, I’m on a ferry on Saturday…
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 12, 2021, 06:28:25 PM
Can't justify paying so much for tests so going to just go to Ireland over and over until another country (and the UK) drops that requirement).
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 12, 2021, 11:27:52 PM
Condor Ferries’ COVID information provision fucking sucks. Nothing in the booking emails, when normally you can’t avoid all the caveats and changes to procedures. But Condor? Noooo. Like the books of magic in Dr. Strange, they put the warnings at the end. I had to actively go looking to find the regs for entering the Channel Islands. And then fill in the same online form, with just shy of a dozen steps, for each member of the family. Started saying “Dormammu, I’ve come to bargain” each time I clicked Next, until MrsMoth told me to stop.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 14, 2021, 11:33:34 PM
A fairly efficient system, rolling off the ferry this evening. Get asked if we’d prefer-registered a test, we said yes, got sent to one queue. That then splits into three (those cars that hadn’t registered online in advance get sent off in a different direction, didn’t see what happens there). They then scanned our QR codes, gave us a hastily-hand-labelled test each, then we’re gradually filtered back into one lane where testers took our tests off us, administered them, then off we went. They were even trained to administer tests to difficult people like our autistic younger daughter. Probably only 20mins, 30 max from tiling off the ferry to exiting the port.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: beanheadmcginty on August 15, 2021, 02:09:39 PM
Returned to London from Amsterdam yesterday on the Eurostar. First time in 10 months. I'd forgotten how many homeless people we have here. The only paperwork I got checked was my passport (twice, by the Dutch and British border guards in the Dam). No one asked about my covid status. Saw some other people with new blue (black) Britisgh passports in the queue, which made me weirdly angry. Also forgot how bad the phone reception is in this country. I don't regret emigrating.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: the science eel on August 17, 2021, 09:14:18 AM
Travelled yesterday and all fine. Only difference was the queue at passport control taking 3 times as long cos some people seemingly not bringing docs or knowing how to use the Internet. Flight full to brim with lots of arse holes nit wearing masks correctly, much to exasperation of cabin staff, including one who when told off put the mask over his eyes instead.

Fuck's sake. Where were you going to/from? I've a flight booked to Bucharest at the end of September and although Romania's a green list country and it should be relatively quiet then, I'm a bit worried about the airport malarkey at both ends.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 17, 2021, 10:46:11 AM
Poland. Leaving tomorrow so had our tests done yesterday. Received the negative results though they managed to get my name wrong, get my date of birth wrong and get my passport number wrong even though they were transcribing it from my passport.

I am dreading Luton airport tomorrow.

*Edited cos was in a rush and this tablet is shit.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: peanutbutter on August 17, 2021, 12:37:57 PM
Had to show a locator form heading to ireland before and after the flight, they only glanced at it both times, didn't look at the covid doc at all.
Didn't have to show anything at all going back to the UK.


Was meant to be visiting a friend in Ukraine next month but the PCR test shit is a massive put off. Families must be getting absolutely gouged by it  all atm.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 17, 2021, 12:41:24 PM
I’d say the extra testing and travel costs are running about £500 per person. It’s a bit of a cash grab, but I understand.

My parents are flying back today, got their tests back inside 24hrs here so hopefully should be fine.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on August 17, 2021, 12:47:19 PM
I'm assuming that the best bet for "test to return" is to buy video-chat-certifiable LFDs in the UK ahead of time, because then you're not so much at the mercy of anyone else's turnaround times or arguing the toss with a Border Force Special about what the foreign terms for specificity and sensitivity are.

Anyone able to disabuse me of this?

(For impending death-related reasons, althought not my own death, I must travel to Germany and back in September.)
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on August 18, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
I'm assuming that they can't so going with the "ordering an LFD from some British bastards and spending £20 to confirm to them by video chat that I'm not lying".

Enjoying various countries half-arsed translation efforts: Germany telling me that I've visited "a(n) high-risk" and France inviting me to complete a "statement of honour".
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: monkfromhavana on August 18, 2021, 09:36:11 PM
OK, got back from Poland today. Can't quite work out exactly how all of this shit is being monitored.

On leaving the UK, we had to do fuck all at the airport, but had all of our docs checked at the Polish end on arrival.

Coming back, we had all of our docs checked in Poland, but the UK was just your basic "stand in the passport machine" stuff. Not a single COVID related document checked. Are we basically just relying on other countries to do the work? Poland has always been a bit weird in this regard though. Even before Brexit it was the only country I have ever visited where you have to queue and go through passport control when you're leaving the country as well as entering.

Anyway, the machine didn't work for me, I'm pretty sure because I was simultaneously trying to look after two bags, take off and hold my mask, take off and hold my glasses, put the passport in the right way round without my specs on and, most importantly, clutch onto my totally redundant print offs of proof of vaccine, proof of test 2 days prior to departure, locator forms and proof of having a test booked at home. It did allow me to view the new border control checks on Johnny (sorry, "Janusz") foreigner following Brexit. It amounted to one bored looking guy scanning the ID and asking them "what's the reason for your visit?" before waving them through.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: mothman on August 27, 2021, 08:06:13 PM
After the impressive show the States of Jersey put on, testing arrivals as we came off the boat, was interested to see what the U.K. return would be like.

Absolutely. Nothing. No testing. No checks at all. The boat had originated in France for fuck’s sake. At least it was significantly emptier this time, whereas our outbound sailing was packed.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 27, 2021, 08:09:09 PM
After the impressive show the States of Jersey put on, testing arrivals as we came off the boat, was interested to see what the U.K. return would be like.

Absolutely. Nothing. No testing. No checks at all. The boat had originated in France for fuck’s sake. At least it was significantly emptier this time, whereas our outbound sailing was packed.

My parents said the same. Nobody checked any of their documents - people were separated into green/amber/red arrival lines, then all three lines merged into the same line to walk past a bored looking security guard who just nods at people and that was it. Great stuff.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on August 27, 2021, 08:57:16 PM
I'm assuming that the best bet for "test to return" is to buy video-chat-certifiable LFDs in the UK ahead of time, because then you're not so much at the mercy of anyone else's turnaround times or arguing the toss with a Border Force Special about what the foreign terms for specificity and sensitivity are.

Anyone able to disabuse me of this?

(For impending death-related reasons, althought not my own death, I must travel to Germany and back in September.)

You could most likely get an antigen 'Schnelltest' done in Germany for not much money. I've heard some Brits were able to get them for free, since the government foots the bill for each German resident tested, and some test centres don't seem to care who is/isn't a German resident. Antigen test certificates are acceptable for returning to the UK, as long as the result is also in English. Most cities will have Schnelltest centres available in various locations, some require online appointments, some are walk-ins. I actually got my test done at Dresden airport before flying back to the UK a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 27, 2021, 09:27:22 PM
^some airlines will reimburse you for the cost of a test as well if you keep a look out
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 04, 2021, 08:44:26 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/uk-inbound-tourism-industry-brexit-b1913693.html
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 07:48:23 AM
Any info about how to get the antigen test in Spain would be super appreciated!

I'm off there from Tuesday (the 7th), and I have a tidy bundle of QR codes and that: my covid passport, my paperwork to get into Spain, the details about my Day 2 PCR once I get back to the UK. But am clueless about how to get the 'at least 2 days before you return' test -- I've been all over Google, and it's just bringing up the Day 2/8 booking info back here in the UK. I'm probably stressing out more than I need to be, as the EU countries seem to be a lot more organised and civilised about the process. Even the UK gov't site is confusing as f*&^ in this regard (which doesn't surprise me).

I'm not going specifically to Alicente, but that's the airport I'm using, and that's the general area I'll be staying in, for about a week.

Now to contact AMEX to find out why they have blocked my card (and to ask them why their 24/7 telephone number actually only works M-F, 8-6pm...)

Thanks for any info about the tests <3
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on September 06, 2021, 08:23:15 AM
Yeah it's a nightmare this stuff.  Unless the rules change you just need an antigen test which is one of the easiest, you get the results in about 15 mins and it costs around €30.  Looks like you can get it done at the airport but if I were you I'd phone them and see if you need to book an appointment or something, or find out what the wait times are likely to be.  Also search around for discount codes, the airline you're using probably gives one, but if not check the others.  When we got my daughter's done in June we just used the Easyjet codes even though she didn't fly with them.

https://eurofins-megalab.com/en/eurofins-megalab-is-carrying-out-testing-for-covid-in-12-spanish-airports/
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on September 06, 2021, 08:37:33 AM
You could most likely get an antigen 'Schnelltest' done in Germany for not much money. I've heard some Brits were able to get them for free, since the government foots the bill for each German resident tested, and some test centres don't seem to care who is/isn't a German resident. Antigen test certificates are acceptable for returning to the UK, as long as the result is also in English. Most cities will have Schnelltest centres available in various locations, some require online appointments, some are walk-ins. I actually got my test done at Dresden airport before flying back to the UK a couple of weeks ago.
I've no idea how I missed this, but thank you nugget - at an absolute minimum, your response will be a source of calm if something goes wrong with our plan A (in a trip that is likely to otherwise be extremely stressful at times).
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on September 06, 2021, 08:39:28 AM
Any info about how to get the antigen test in Spain would be super appreciated!

One option is always to buy a test before you leave the UK (e.g. from Chronomics) - they deliver this to your UK address, you take it with you, do it a day or two before flying, and verify it over video chat to get a certificate.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 09:09:06 AM
One option is always to buy a test before you leave the UK (e.g. from Chronomics) - they deliver this to your UK address, you take it with you, do it a day or two before flying, and verify it over video chat to get a certificate.

It wouldn't get here in time -- I've got to fly out tomorrow, unfortunately. That would have been a fab option, but where I'm going won't have reliable wifi (it's fieldwork rather than being holed up in a cosy hotel).
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Yeah it's a nightmare this stuff.  Unless the rules change you just need an antigen test which is one of the easiest, you get the results in about 15 mins and it costs around €30.  Looks like you can get it done at the airport but if I were you I'd phone them and see if you need to book an appointment or something, or find out what the wait times are likely to be.  Also search around for discount codes, the airline you're using probably gives one, but if not check the others.  When we got my daughter's done in June we just used the Easyjet codes even though she didn't fly with them.

https://eurofins-megalab.com/en/eurofins-megalab-is-carrying-out-testing-for-covid-in-12-spanish-airports/


I'm flying on BA -- they're usless at the moment, as their intel is only that I need to make arrangements to get a test done before I leave Spain -- they also require that I fill out forms and upload docs to prove that I've had the vaccination, &c.

Is the antigen test the lateral flow test? We have a ton of those at home already (through Mr Attila's work doling them out). I'd be happy as a clam to do that -- apologies for so many questions, but then how do you demonstrate that you took it, and you're in the clear? Waving a negative testing swab around doesn't seem to be the answer....

Is this the one that gets uploaded to the NHS covid app, or to the NHS app (I have only the latter on my tablet).

Apologies so many questions -- I've not been this stressed out since I applied for the various visa/citizenship applications, where one wrongly transposed letter or a name not exactly the same on two documents would cost you the application (and extortionate fee).

I found a couple of hospitals near Alicente airport that offer RAT PCR tests -- for €100+, of course.

I'm stressing to the point of calling the whole trip off, to be honest :(


Gah, this is some terrible coding! I can't get the quotes and my replies separated.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on September 06, 2021, 09:36:17 AM
Understood re timescales - apologies for the red herring.

Some "antigen" tests will be "lateral flow devices" (LFDs/LFTs). Unfortunately you cannot use the NHS LFTs for the reason you hit upon - they won't provide you with an appropriate certificate.

(Based on nugget's response to my question about - although about Germany - I'm guessing that getting appropriately tested somewhere in Spain won't prove impossible, although it'll be a lot easier to get an answer from someone actually there.)
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 10:56:23 AM
No worries -- all the advice here has been much appreciated!

I've talked to the friends I'm staying with, and they're fine with ferrying me to one of the hospitals locally that's offering appts for RAT tests -- it's an extortionate cost, but needs must.

I shouldn't be stressing out about this so much, but I've not been this frazzled since all of the paperwork to move over here -- it's bringing back a lot of feelings/stresses from that time! (It also doesn't help that it's the week before the week before our classes begin, and colleagues have been bombarding me all morning with emails and requests for meetings/solving issues this week.)

Anyway, off to book my test in Spain -- I got the intel from a site for Dutch tourists, of all things! (and the links check out, having double checked, of course). And, huzzah, the difference in fees between EU nationals and everyone else is sadly quite high.

ETA -- huzzah! Booked in for my test, and it's at a proper hospital, and for only £35. Results in an hour for a PCR test, and a really easy to navigate website - when I started to fill in my details, the site detected 'daft tourist mode' and walked me right through the process. Loads of times available, too. It's the big chain of IMed hospitals in Spain, if anyone's going out there -- the docs even include a photo map of where to park, where the covid testing spot is, etc, with big red arrows.

The main stress-factor here was simply finding the info I needed -- the UK sites, including BA and the gov't websites, only say, 'You need to book a test in Spain' without any info on where/how/what. As mentioned above, I got the info from a well-organised site for Dutch tourists in Spain, with testing centres that are close to all of the major airports in the country, when they're open, the websites to make bookings, &c.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Dex Sawash on September 06, 2021, 12:00:48 PM
Have you googled el jabbo de espana?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 12:06:28 PM
Have you googled el jabbo de espana?

Now, see, this is the straight-to-the-point advice I could use :D


(As an aside, when I was filling out address details, one of the drop down boxes was, 'What type of street is your residence on?' with like 20 different choices. Not the name of the street, that was a different box. The choices here were about the actual type of street -- residential, dirt road, public highway, &c.)
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: beanheadmcginty on September 06, 2021, 12:44:36 PM
Anybody baffled by all the various rules when travelling, I can't recommend this website enough. Much clearer than any official government shite. Made my recent trip back to the UK much easier to sort out:
http://Www.covid19-testing.org
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 02:22:55 PM
That is an excellent site -- I've bookmarked it for future ref.

You're not kidding that the gov't site is confusing shite; it presents contradicting info within a single sentence. It's one reason I shelled out for a lawyer when doing visa stuff; the gov't site just led around and around in circles, which was nerve-wracking when trying to sort out documents that you didn't dare mess up.

My next 'challenge' is what to do after I arrive at Alicente, for 7 hours -- BA cancelled my afternoon flight and put me on an early morning one, which means my colleague won't be arriving until much later in the evening. I can't get to her place on my own (and she has the keys, anyway). Inside the terminal (I've never been in this airport) sounds great - lounges, decent seating, &c -- but through arrivals they just figure you'll be on your way. Whee. My first day finally travelling after 18 months, and I get to channel my inner Tom Hanks (and even his character got to live IN the terminal).
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 06, 2021, 02:49:10 PM
Now, see, this is the straight-to-the-point advice I could use :D


(As an aside, when I was filling out address details, one of the drop down boxes was, 'What type of street is your residence on?' with like 20 different choices. Not the name of the street, that was a different box. The choices here were about the actual type of street -- residential, dirt road, public highway, &c.)

When requesting my postal ballot for delivery, I had the option of inputting my street address or (if I lived in one of three rural provinces) inputting my map coordinates. Presumably they fire your ballot at your house via space laser or something.

Great news onnthe booking the test though - that seems to be a complete pain for everyone. It was a nightmare here too
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 06, 2021, 02:57:11 PM
I know it sounds daft, but it was a huge relief to find a site and make the booking at last.

Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 06, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
I know it sounds daft, but it was a huge relief to find a site and make the booking at last.

Not daft at all! My parents went slightly mad until I booked it for them.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on September 07, 2021, 09:46:59 AM
I've no idea how I missed this, but thank you nugget - at an absolute minimum, your response will be a source of calm if something goes wrong with our plan A (in a trip that is likely to otherwise be extremely stressful at times).

I'm glad if my response is helpful in any way. The pre-departure test was probably the most difficult part of my trip to the UK, even as a German resident, so I understand why this may be stressing people out. The 'difficulty', for me, was entirely down to the UK government's stipulation that the test results have to be presented in English (French and Spanish are acceptable, but not German), which is the main reason I got the test at the airport rather than somewhere more local, where I couldn't be certain that the test result would be available in English. I actually booked the test 3 weeks in advance, although this was completely unnecessary, and it seemed like I was the only one who had bothered to do this. The only real advantage of booking ahead (other than peace of mind) is that it saved a few minutes at the check-in desk, since the girl could just scan my QR code instead of having to type in all my information herself. I received the test result by email about 30 minutes after arriving at the airport. Honestly, if I was to travel to the UK again any time soon, I'd just book an antigen test at the airport a couple of hours ahead of my departure time.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 07, 2021, 01:30:42 PM
Trip report so far (I'm stuck at Alicante for the next 6 hours waiting for my friends as they're flying in from Greece and have only tiny wings): for all of the stress of getting the paperwork sorted, it made things really really easy (as nugget notes above).

I got to Heathrow stupid early before my flight, because of all the stuff in the papers about huge queues and delays, and make sure with all the new checks you're in time. I thought, Yep, when I saw the huge check in queue, but when I got to the first checkpoint lady, she was asking everyone ahead of me if they were checked in. Nope -- because without the covid vaccine doc and whatever health docs your destination need loaded up as part of your BA check in, you can't get a boarding pass to print out at home. So they had to go join that big queue and sort it at the counter. I would have disintegrated in a ball of stressed out molecules had I had to do all there here at the airport.

Instead, I got waved over to the baggage drop, then took about 5 mins to get through security.

Once in Spain, off plane (they are making people wait and leave the plane in called rows, and BA at least will tell you to arse-grab some seat if you leap up before your row is called. No, not me, but some red faced older dude -- I'm old, but I was the youngest one on the flight by about 270 years, I think).

Through a set of e-gates, which for once recognised me with my glasses on. Passport check -- two bored guards who barely stopped their convo to stamp my passport (fuck Brexit) and throw said passport back at me. Then another check-point person asking if I had my health certificate. Yes? Cool -- over to this table, get the QR code scanned, and then off you fuck to baggage claim -- past another enormous queue of people having to do their health docs onsite.

So far it's been all right -- stressing out is no fun, but in the end it's been so, so worth it to have my little wallet of papers and QR codes.

Fingers crossed that the reverse is equally all right -- quite happy to have my appt for the PCR test, and sussed out where they have the testing centres in the airport, too, so that could have been an option.

Not gonna lie, almost felt a bit teary crossing into T5 for the first time in almost two years, sniffoo.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on September 07, 2021, 02:27:03 PM
I got to Heathrow stupid early before my flight, because of all the stuff in the papers about huge queues and delays, and make sure with all the new checks you're in time. I thought, Yep, when I saw the huge check in queue, but when I got to the first checkpoint lady, she was asking everyone ahead of me if they were checked in. Nope -- because without the covid vaccine doc and whatever health docs your destination need loaded up as part of your BA check in, you can't get a boarding pass to print out at home. So they had to go join that big queue and sort it at the counter. I would have disintegrated in a ball of stressed out molecules had I had to do all there here at the airport.

I flew with Lufthansa from Heathrow and it was a bit different, but also relatively painless. I checked in online the day before and got my boarding pass, but I had luggage to drop off, so I had to go to the check-in desk anyway. There was no queue, and the check-in guy asked to see my vaccine certificate and German passenger locator form. He gave me a new, printed boarding pass, and obviously made a note in their system that my documents were in order. At the boarding gate, the crew read out a massive list of names about 20 mins before boarding, asking them to come to the gate with their documents for inspection. I'm assuming these were all people who had checked in online and didn't drop off luggage at the check in desk, suckers. Arriving in Germany, there were just the usual passport checks at the airport.

Flying into Heathrow was much less organised, surprisingly. All the checking was done at the gate, and the airline/airport staff made a right mess out of it, resulting in a massive argument with a group of (understandably) very pissed off and confused passengers, which ultimately required police intervention and delayed the departure by about 45 mins.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 07, 2021, 02:42:29 PM
Flying out of here -- I will be really stupid early, as my friends' flight is two hours before mine, so obviously, if they're bringing me to the airport, I'll be along, too.

I feel a little better about being stuck here (currently deep into Hour Two of Alicante Roosting) because my friends are stuck in Barcelona for almost as long, waiting for their connecting flight down here. I'm also clearly not the only one stuck here -- there's a young woman sat near me who was here when I rocked up, and clearly well bunkered down, and now sat wit a 1000 yard stare on her face.

There is someone nearby who's just started up some construction work with a drill that might send me over the swings a la Herbert Lom/Inspector Dreyfuss in a bit, but we'll see...
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 13, 2021, 11:05:10 AM
Field report -- starting the process now to get my paperwork sorted for the UK return...what a shambles.

I started my home locator form for the UK last week as much as a could to generate a link -- supposedly I could click and continue once I had my PCR test and all that guff sorted. Nope. Click on the link, 'Page not found.'

Tried to sign in using the details. Unconfirmed user.

Tried to create a new account with a different email. Didn't like my phone number. Attempted to restart that application. Sorry, there is already an account registered with that email.

Went to a 3rd email address to start the process again. We'll sent you a text on the number you've provided to confirm your identity. Text never came, even after 2 or 3 requests to resend. So that's three emails I can no longer use for the application because theyre already registered. Even though they refuse to accept my log in details because I'm 'unconfirmed.'

Created a 4th email address and got all the way down to 'when will your flight get into the UK?' and was told, nope, you're two hours early to complete this form, so you have to come back and do the form within 48 hours of arrival. Click here to generate a link so you can get back to the form.

Well, yeah, that's what I thought I could do originally, only to be told page not found.

So I have generated a fifth email address on gmail now, so that when I'm within my 48 hours (I'm erring on the side of caution), I can get the paperwork that, for Spain, took me 10 minutes to sort. The UK one will want me to upload proof that I've had a neg pCR result (yep) and that I've sorted my Day 2 PCR test (yep) -- so I HAVE all of the supporting docs 'n' that, but fuck me, what a pain in the arse.

Did a belt and braces PCR test this morning, and the nurse had a good laugh when she checked my passport -- have a birthday, get a PCR test!

The gov't forms all say, 'Oh, you can have all of your docs with the QR codes on your phone or you can bring printouts.' I have a tablet, but not a smartphone, but I'm printing everything out -- I don't dare risk not being able to find stuff when I'm in the airport or whatever.

Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on September 13, 2021, 12:25:48 PM
I waited until it was within the 48-hour window before doing mine, and it worked fine. Also never had to upload proof of anything, just had to type in an order reference number for the day-2 test, for which I'm pretty sure I could have just typed in any string of random numbers.

Definitely a good idea to print everything out, it'll make it easier for people to check (nobody actually used the QR codes and checked everything manually), and it doesn't matter if your phone/tablet craps out.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 13, 2021, 12:30:44 PM
Another shout for printing everything out. One thing fewer that can go wrong (not that anything will go wrong, just a source of potential stress removed).

You can’t be denied entry to the UK (it’s one of the rights of citizenship) so worst, worst case scenario is a 500 quid fine that isn’t exactly great news but it’s not like you’ll be left to wander international airports forever like Tom Hanks if you don’t give them the paper in the right order.

Anecdotally, they check absolutely nothing and wave you in[1]
 1. which I can believe - the last time I went through Heathrow nobody stamped our (Canadian) passports so technically I don’t think we ever entered the country. I asked the guy to stamp my son’s (first trip to the motherland and all that) and he said “oh no I don’t have a stamp, I usually do the bags but they called me up to handle overflow. This was midweek in an industry that knows exactly how many passengers it will have to deal with day to day. The idea of them having the manpower of resources to even slightly enforce this is laughable.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 13, 2021, 12:56:49 PM
Ah, cool, nugget & FWB -- yeah, i'm now inside the 48 hours window, and I've got a fresh gmail (and my covid Day 2 code), so fingers crossed I can faff off to a quiet corner and sort that.

We have a printer here at the house where I'm staying, although of course it's being an arse-pain at the moment (apparently it hasn't been used in a while, so it keeps insisting there is no battery in it when there is) -- but yep, I'm all about the printouts. I've got a dedicated plastic file folder with all the get-into-Spain, so will add the get-out-of-Spain docs.

Meanwhile, the people I'm staying with (who have been haw hawing all my stressing and paperwork) have now realised that they need to have the pre-travel covid tests, and are running around trying to get them booked this afternoon in between other stuff they have to do, all in a state of panic.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 13, 2021, 02:10:58 PM
Gah, what a palaver. Got my passenger locator sorted -- with luck we can get this printer to work, but I have both pDFs available here on my laptop.

The form wanted me to upload my covid vaccine paperwork, and first time, said the official pdf was 'too small.' So I took a photo of it -- nope, can't read it. Just bring it along for scanning. aaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggghhhhhhhhh.

Then my bro wants me to come out to the USA around January -- I'm like, let me get this adventure sorted before I even think about the next one...
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on September 14, 2021, 12:47:58 PM
Flying to the UK with my 13 year old son on Friday to see the ‘rents for the first time in two years. I’m really, really tempted to just shove some random letters in the covid test box of the passenger locator form. We are arriving late on Friday night and returning less than 48 hours later so don’t see what the point is in forking out £100[1] for the day 2 tests. We’ll be back in Spain long before we get the results
 1. cheapest I can see for two pcr tests
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Fr.Bigley on September 14, 2021, 12:58:36 PM
It's a piece of piss boys, I did it in July/August when the tests were enforced fully and everything went smoothly, they're also dripping isolation for double jabbed soon too and a free lateral flow on return. All is returning to normal slowly. 
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 16, 2021, 07:03:59 AM
& the finale for closure -- BA wouldn't allow me to check in online; turns out, no one on my flight was allowed to check in online, and were told we had to do so at the airport. This led to enormous queues of people who had to check in on the one hand, and people who did not have the required paperwork on the other (or who did have the docs, but on their phones/tablets, and ended up with the BA folks not accepting them on the phones/tablets, or the people trying to shuffle through their files to find whatever doc the BA check in person wanted.) Deffo if you can, print everything out.

I was super lucky to be staying with someone who had a home office, so I had everything printed out; the check in person had a shuffle through them, but the key thing she wanted was the passenger locator form. Some of the other people in the queue also said that they'd had a right faff getting that form sorted, burning through several emails addresses because once you start the form on one email address, you have to see it through completion. Otherwise, you can't return to the form, and you can't log back in on that email, because you'll get an error message either saying 'page not found' or that that email is already registered to 'an unconfirmed user.' Add in the site constantly crashing, and you end up with a bit of a mess.

Fortunately, my stuff passed muster, so a quick check and done. Everyone keeps saying, 'Oh, they don't even look at your paperwork in the UK' -- that's because it's expected that it's done at the foreign end before you get on the flight. So thinking that you don't have to do it because they don't look at the paperwork at Heathrow is misleading -- as the couple ahead of me in the queue found out. They hadn't bothered to do the passenger locator form because they'd heard that no one checks them in the UK; the BA check in person told them they weren't getting on the plane without it. Christ knows how they sorted it -- it's 5 pages long, and as above, it's not the easier or quickest thing to fill out.

Anyway, back in England now, got to do the Day 2 PCR thing tomorrow, and then on to the fresh new hell of a new semester at a university that has dropped all social distancing, masks, and hygiene practices because the gov't has said it's ok, covid doesn't exist any more now. So all live lectures, seminars, and tutorials; no working/teaching from home permitted. Huzzah!
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Theremin on September 16, 2021, 09:07:49 AM
Is there a simple explanation anywhere of what actually has to done to visit the UK at this point?

I was hoping to pop over from NL, but the constantly changing regulations have me pretty baffled.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on September 16, 2021, 10:16:25 AM
It depends slightly on which country of the UK you're travelling to from outside the UK, but here is a reasonable starting point if you're travelling to the worst one (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/travel-abroad-from-england-during-coronavirus-covid-19?step-by-step-nav=8c0c7b83-5e0b-4bed-9121-1c394e2f96f3#what-you-need-to-do-to-return-to-england).

Before you fly, you need:
 - A pre-flight negative test from the 72 hours prior to departure that meets certain standards.
 - To complete a passenger locator form]complete a passenger locator form (https://www.gov.uk/provide-journey-contact-details-before-travel-uk) in the 48 hours prior to departure.

After you arrive, you will need:
 - A test on day 2 from a private supplier, at your own cost. Which suppliers are acceptable depends on the country in the UK that you're travelling to

You may also then need, if you're travelling from an "Amber list" country (which I believe the Netherlands currently is):
- A test on day 8, with the same conditions as the day 2 test.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: beanheadmcginty on September 16, 2021, 10:36:12 AM
Is there a simple explanation anywhere of what actually has to done to visit the UK at this point?

I was hoping to pop over from NL, but the constantly changing regulations have me pretty baffled.

I popped back to the UK from NL a couple of weeks ago and had no problems getting there or back (I went on the Eurostar). I did the following:

- A week before travel I ordered a Day 2 PCR test to be delivered to my mate's house in London, it arrived there within a couple of days. Cost £50. Use this site to find one, it is really easy to use and not trying to rip you off: https://www.covid19-testing.org/travel-testing
 
- Got a free antigen test done at one of the local clinics we have in Amsterdam less than 24 hours before setting off. Got the results emailed to me within an hour. They were in English.

- Filled in the UK passenger locator form the morning before I set off. Didn't have to upload anything like Attila. Just had to put in the code number of the day 2 PCR test I had on order.

- Sailed through both Amsterdam and St Pancras rail stations with nobody checking anything except my passport.

- Did the day 2 PCR test at my mate's house, got drunk and forgot to post it until a day late.

- Received a negative result by email a couple of days later. No one mentioned that it was late.

- Had fun in the UK for a couple of weeks

- Day before returning to Amsterdam discovered that NL require a negative antigen test. Quickly booked myself into a dodgy clinic in Dalston and got that done. £60 and results emailed within the hour.

- Eurostar back to Amsterdam. Once again, nobody checked any paperwork except my passport at either end. I even offered to show my EU vaccination app thing and NL residency card and the border guard said "don't worry, I trust you".
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Theremin on September 16, 2021, 11:16:59 AM
Thanks all!

Genuinely tempted by the Eurostar now.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 16, 2021, 11:37:32 AM
piss boys
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Zetetic on September 17, 2021, 10:25:18 AM
Enjoying how much German bureaucracy makes me realise how much worse British bureaucracy could be.

Just had an email from a local government office that makes two completely contradictory claims in the body of the email and a PDF attachment, neither of which are relevant to anyone that exists.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on September 17, 2021, 10:31:51 AM
PCR tests could be on the way out thankfully

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58591550 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58591550)
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 17, 2021, 05:36:20 PM
PCR tests could be on the way out thankfully

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58591550 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58591550)

Seems to be so. :)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/17/amber-list-covid-travel-rules-england-traffic-light-system
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: imitationleather on September 17, 2021, 05:43:23 PM
If I manage to get through this entire pandemic without sticking a swab into my skull I'll be one happy cunt.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 17, 2021, 05:59:40 PM
If I manage to get through this entire pandemic without sticking a swab into my skull I'll be one happy cunt.

People here go for tests for fun. Get on our level.

Even the nipper has had two.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Better Midlands on September 21, 2021, 09:26:34 PM
I popped back to the UK from NL a couple of weeks ago and had no problems getting there or back (I went on the Eurostar). I did the following:

- A week before travel I ordered a Day 2 PCR test to be delivered to my mate's house in London, it arrived there within a couple of days. Cost £50. Use this site to find one, it is really easy to use and not trying to rip you off: https://www.covid19-testing.org/travel-testing
 
- Got a free antigen test done at one of the local clinics we have in Amsterdam less than 24 hours before setting off. Got the results emailed to me within an hour. They were in English.

- Filled in the UK passenger locator form the morning before I set off. Didn't have to upload anything like Attila. Just had to put in the code number of the day 2 PCR test I had on order.

- Sailed through both Amsterdam and St Pancras rail stations with nobody checking anything except my passport.

- Did the day 2 PCR test at my mate's house, got drunk and forgot to post it until a day late.

- Received a negative result by email a couple of days later. No one mentioned that it was late.

- Had fun in the UK for a couple of weeks

- Day before returning to Amsterdam discovered that NL require a negative antigen test. Quickly booked myself into a dodgy clinic in Dalston and got that done. £60 and results emailed within the hour.

- Eurostar back to Amsterdam. Once again, nobody checked any paperwork except my passport at either end. I even offered to show my EU vaccination app thing and NL residency card and the border guard said "don't worry, I trust you".

@beanheadmcginty or @theremin do either of you know what would be required covid wise for someone flying ams - gatwick on Friday night returning on sunday night?
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 22, 2021, 07:21:38 AM
When are the PCR test requirements being scrapped? Online fraudster Grant Shapps unhelpfully tweeted 'later in October', which is fucking unhelpful, the news reported that then it went quiet.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on September 22, 2021, 07:50:40 AM
4th October. The day after my trip to the UK
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Attila on September 22, 2021, 08:46:02 AM
Apparently someone on my flight back from Spain had covid, as the NHS/passenger locator people contacted me to tell me I'd been in proximity of someone who'd tested positive and to isolate immediately.

Filled in my forms, had another PCR test (neg), so I don't need to isolate -- but my phone has completely blown up with texts and calls from contract tracers. I've had to switch it off -- I've had maybe 20 calls in the past 24 hours, throughout the day and a couple in the middle of the night. I did speak to one of them, telling them that I'd done the NHS forms online, I don't have to isolate, please stop calling and texting me.

Good times.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 22, 2021, 11:24:18 AM
When are the PCR test requirements being scrapped? Online fraudster Grant Shapps unhelpfully tweeted 'later in October', which is fucking unhelpful, the news reported that then it went quiet.

From that Guardian news item I linked above:

Quote
From 4 October, fully vaccinated travellers will no longer need to take a test before departing for England.

From the end of October, while people will still need to take a test within two days of returning, this can be a cheaper lateral flow test rather than a PCR.

Also remember that this is all for fully-vaxed people and green-list counties. If anyone reading this thinks that doesn't apply to them, go and get yourself properly vaxxed and forget about going to red-list countries for now.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: katzenjammer on September 22, 2021, 11:55:08 AM
Oh thanks, and sorry for misleading people earlier. I’m betting I’m not the only one that got that wrong. Still trying to wring those last few quid out of the PCR racket
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 22, 2021, 12:20:29 PM
Oh thanks, and sorry for misleading people earlier. I’m betting I’m not the only one that got that wrong. Still trying to wring those last few quid out of the PCR racket

Oh, it's totally confusing. All of it, never mind keeping abreast of the changes. The government web pages about this are abject piss.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 22, 2021, 12:34:29 PM
Has anyone here applied for a Pass Sanitaire yet? It's essentially France's covid passport and tourists from beyond the EU need to have it. I'd like to hear about the process of getting one, and other people following this thread might find it useful too.

Without a Pass Sanitaire, it seems you won't be allowed into public buildings or even into shops and restaurants, so you'd probably have very shit time without one.

It's good that all of this stuff is communicated loudly in media and/or at the point of paying for passage to France, isn't it? Jeez.

(I bet other EU countries have their equivalent too).

The UK's government's advice about it appears in the last paragraph of the "Travel in France" section of the Foreign Travel to France page (https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/coronavirus) and in bewilderingly complex and contradictory detail in the "Public Spaces and Services" section beneath that paragraph. At several points it says we can consult the French government for more information (i.e. any information really) but of course that is all in French, which Google Translate doesn't do a particularly sophisticated job of translating. No idea why gov.uk can't provide coherent information about this simple and very important thing.

Anyway, yeah, any shareable experiences concerning this would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: nugget on September 22, 2021, 02:42:15 PM
To be fair, I've found the instructions on the gov.uk website to be pretty clear if you can find the right page. All the info is there:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england)

Regarding Pass Sanitaire, it seems you can download their app and upload your NHS vaccination proof:

https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-and-vaccination-in-the-UK (https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-and-vaccination-in-the-UK)

(https://uk.ambafrance.org/local/cache-vignettes/L945xH669/5dba10c38d6d0aa2-5fc63.png?1629463531)
Title: Re: International travel rules announced
Post by: Mobbd on September 22, 2021, 05:38:26 PM
Regarding Pass Sanitaire, it seems you can download their app and upload your NHS vaccination proof:

https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-and-vaccination-in-the-UK (https://uk.ambafrance.org/Health-pass-and-vaccination-in-the-UK)

That is very helpful, nugget. Thank you.

I've downloaded the app and used it to scan my NHS Scotland QR codes. It worked! And I was presented with a new QR code for presenting to venues in France.

The app in the both Apple app store and Goodle Play is called TousAntiCovid and the icon on my phone reads as AntiCovid. All of the text inside the app is English by default (presumably it can detect the language of my phone). After getting it "activated" (it needs access to your bluetooth and for you to allow push notifications), I was able to scan my NHS QR codes. It then gave me a new QR code on a brightly-lit screen to be presented to venue staff. It even has a little note about what to tell them if it doesn't scan the first time(they have to reset their scanner). Obviously, I'll be happier when I've used it at the door of a real place but this all feels positive.