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Title: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 10, 2021, 07:08:32 AM
Was directed towards this

https://youtu.be/4RHA7oH2jMk

Basically an Andrew Lawrence rant about England players taking the knee in ‘character’.

I don’t get it, is it meant to be satire, if so, who’s it satirising. Is it actually what AL thinks but disguised within a character?

To me it seems lime he’s taken Stewart Lee’s ‘I don’t want people to laugh just yo agree the fuck out of it’ as some kind of advice on how to make ‘comedy’ to an extreme.

I don’t get it, well I do, there seems to be a new wave of ‘anti woke’ comedy which if that’s what you want - fine but at least try make it funny or creative, Im no fan of Jonathan Pie but at least its got some kind of creativity behind it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: SpiderChrist on June 10, 2021, 07:24:54 AM
Not giving that wanker any clicks.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 10, 2021, 07:31:19 AM
I wonder what radicalised him
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on June 10, 2021, 10:06:04 AM
Not giving that wanker any clicks.
This. I'm mildly curious just how shitty and racist he is, but there's no way I'm watching it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Oz Oz Alice on June 10, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
Jesus look at this cunt's eyes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on June 10, 2021, 10:09:26 AM
Similar energy in the MDE thread

Some things do seem to be labelled as comedy, then it's just someone getting really cross about something. Seems to me this is more common in new right wing stuff
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on June 10, 2021, 10:09:31 AM
Not interested.

(sorry I know that's a bit of a rude response to a thread)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ASFTSN on June 10, 2021, 10:12:20 AM
Ignore me
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Egyptian Feast on June 10, 2021, 10:15:25 AM
His face makes me think of milk and really bothers me. Total danger.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 10, 2021, 10:20:57 AM
I'm not clicking either but I do have a low-key fascination with squeaky voiced professional victim Andrew Lawrence. Partly because one day I found out I was blocked by him on Twitter, which was unusual to me because I don't go around offending people on social media or even interacting with anyone remotely famous - he'd clearly seen my name somewhere and manually blocked me (I'm not on any blocklists either, I checked).

But mostly because he is, in a way, a pioneer of of the heading rightward in order to find a more fertile ground in which to grow a loyal audience (as opposed to becoming politically lazy because you're rich already). Obviously this has come at expense of any ambitions he had of being a good comedian in the vein of his heroes, so it has been interesting to me to see exactly what kind of pandering he will do next. These online "characters" (bias confirmations with a funny voice) have been going a while and they do great business with exactly the kind of person who will be front row for his next tour in Middle England art centres.

And yet other people have performed The Lawrence (named jointly for Andrew and Fox) much more successfully, and AL seems like such a bad fit amongst them. He's a professional contrarian and all of his work has been about outsider status - sexually, politically, personally - and I can't help but frame his move as a way of cementing an eternal link between himself and his muse. It's much easier than thinking he just became a massive twat.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 10, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
For the non-clickers, he's playing "Keith Cuntabout", which is what he imagines a working class person sounds like. Lairy cunt who loves "a drink, a bit of banter and a tear-up."

Mentions that noone thinks racism is good, but these days the only people who actually face prejudice are white working class males... Sorry, "blokes."

He really does say that, the thick, useless, pandering cunt.

Then he goes off on one about BLM being an "anarcho- Communist collective"  who are supposedly using anti-racism as a Trojan horse to defund the police and dismantle capitalism, and that's why everyone is booing - noone would do so if the kneeling was simply a stand against racism.

Finally he insists that inequality doesn't actually exist, because everyone dies, and that therefore makes us all equal. Not sure how that really fits in with the bit where he said that working class white blokes are experiencing discrimination and prejudice on a mass global scale.

I'll paste in some of the comments in a bit, so you can see the sort of scumbags he's desperate to sell tickets to.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 10, 2021, 10:48:00 AM
For the non-clickers, he's playing "Keith Cuntabout", which is what he imagines a working class person sounds like. Lairy cunt who loves "a drink, a bit of banter and a tear-up."

Mentions that noone thinks racism is good, but these days the only people who actually face prejudice are white working class males... Sorry, "blokes."

He really does say that, the thick, useless, pandering cunt.

Then he goes off on one about BLM being an "anarcho- Communist collective"  who are supposedly using anti-racism as a Trojan horse to defund the police and dismantle capitalism, and that's why everyone is booing - noone would do so if the kneeling was simply a stand against racism.

Finally he insists that inequality doesn't actually exist, because everyone dies, and that therefore makes us all equal. Not sure how that really fits in with the bit where he said that working class white blokes are experiencing discrimination and prejudice on a mass global scale.

I'll paste in some of the comments in a bit, so you can see the sort of scumbags he's desperate to sell tickets to.

I only managed abut 30 seconds of it to be honest, it sounds worse than I thought.

I'm still baffled as to where the comedy or creativity is, Im also quite saddened but the amount of people think he's 'bang on' and 'telling it how it is'

Don't know why but this comment made me laugh

"My mouthful of tea just came out of my nose. How can anyone disagree with Keith?"
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 10, 2021, 10:53:41 AM
I'm still baffled as to where the comedy or creativity is, Im also quite saddened but the amount of people think he's 'bang on' and 'telling it how it is'

I just came back and was gonna add this as an edit to the above:

I've watched this probably three or four times now, having to rewind some bits to make sure the above post accurately captured what he was saying, and I just had the sudden realisation that there isn't a single joke in there. M

Your OP is spot on, especially the Stewart Lee quote. I guess the "white working class bloke" bit might arguably have a joke-like construction, and is blatantly there so people are prompted to cheer and applaud.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on June 10, 2021, 11:45:46 AM
Lawrence had a pretty rough 2010s. Obviously didn't want to just be a fringe outsider type comic, the kind he could've been very good at but would've likely required a job to keep paying the bills on top of it, so he made some fairly awkward failed moves to be a mainstream. The problem is that he's just such an oddly spoken creepy presence that that failed hugely on any kind of artistic level and he didn't manage to establish himself enough to make it into a long term thing. Pivoting to being an anti-woke is a much better fit but I still get the impression he's incapable of keeping his instincts or disdain for his audience out of the way. Not gonna watch the video regardless though.


On the whole just a terrible fit for professional comedy. Don't get the impression he enjoys a minute of it, not that sure I ever did.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Steven88 on June 10, 2021, 11:53:05 AM
I thought this squeaky cum stain was putting a voice on when he was in Ideal, I couldn't listen to him for 30 seconds never mind a full stand up set.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 10, 2021, 11:57:41 AM
"Keith Cuntabout!"  FFS!

EDIT: I've just found more of his films

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrbyXzNd6Sk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzETy26bzdI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJYBxdJCWyI

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 10, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
Remember reading him whining about how being a jobbing comic is hard, lots of driving to gigs and struggling to pay the mortgage, which only made me think that if youy successful enough as a stand up to not only obtain a mortgage but continue to pay it, you're doing better than many.

They repeated one of his pre-heelturn series on Radio 4 and I found his singing physically painful. And I say that as someone who really likes the Inflatable Clams
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Gurke and Hare on June 10, 2021, 01:30:59 PM
For the non-clickers, he's playing "Keith Cuntabout", which is what he imagines a working class person sounds like. Lairy cunt who loves "a drink, a bit of banter and a tear-up."

Mentions that noone thinks racism is good, but these days the only people who actually face prejudice are white working class males... Sorry, "blokes."

He really does say that, the thick, useless, pandering cunt.

Then he goes off on one about BLM being an "anarcho- Communist collective"  who are supposedly using anti-racism as a Trojan horse to defund the police and dismantle capitalism, and that's why everyone is booing - noone would do so if the kneeling was simply a stand against racism.

Finally he insists that inequality doesn't actually exist, because everyone dies, and that therefore makes us all equal. Not sure how that really fits in with the bit where he said that working class white blokes are experiencing discrimination and prejudice on a mass global scale.

So fucking cowardly to adopt a character to say this in the voice of. And pointless too, since everyone can still see it's him saying it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: An tSaoi on June 10, 2021, 01:50:11 PM
I was trying to work out what's so odd about him. I think it's because he has red hair but brown eyes. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

Edit: One of his characters is called "Johnny Smugface". Piss poor.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 10, 2021, 01:50:17 PM
The character video thing seems to have taken off on Twitter, and it's mostly young posher comedians punching sideways if not down.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 10, 2021, 01:51:20 PM
I was trying to work out what's so odd about him. I think it's because he has red hair but brown eyes. I don't think I've ever seen that before.

Went to primary school with a girl who looked like that, but she was incredibly pretty. On the other hand, as far as I know, woke PC culture hasn't ruined her career.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 10, 2021, 01:53:51 PM
The character video thing seems to have taken off on Twitter, and it's mostly young posher comedians punching sideways if not down.

I must admit I have found the Fergus Craig ones quite amusing.

Im not sure where Andrew Lawrence is punching to be honest, its such a mess of a 'performance'
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: An tSaoi on June 10, 2021, 01:55:34 PM
Went to primary school with a girl who looked like that, but she was incredibly pretty. On the other hand, as far as I know, woke PC culture hasn't ruined her career.

So that's two brown-eyed redheads. Are there any more?

By internet racist logic, I think having brown eyes makes him non-white.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on June 10, 2021, 02:05:30 PM
Very odd. Keith Cuntabout isn't even a good comedy name, like something from one of those terrible Viz clones.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on June 10, 2021, 02:12:45 PM
Remember reading him whining about how being a jobbing comic is hard, lots of driving to gigs and struggling to pay the mortgage, which only made me think that if youy successful enough as a stand up to not only obtain a mortgage but continue to pay it, you're doing better than many.

They repeated one of his pre-heelturn series on Radio 4 and I found his singing physically painful. And I say that as someone who really likes the Inflatable Clams


It's funny because probably around the time Lawrence was "struggling" Stewart Lee decided that going for mass popularity wasn't going to work but if he could be loved by 5000 people rather than liked by 5000000 then he had a pretty good model for financial stability. It seems that Lawrence has learned all the wrong lessons from that
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr_Simnock on June 10, 2021, 02:15:14 PM
Very odd. Keith Cuntabout isn't even a good comedy name, like something from one of those terrible Viz clones.

It's worse than that, it's like something from HS Art
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 10, 2021, 03:18:20 PM
So that's two brown-eyed redheads. Are there any more?

By internet racist logic, I think having brown eyes makes him non-white.
I used to work with a horrible racist cunt who said people with brown eyes had 'black blood'. I found out he died of skin cancer a few years ago. His precious white skin killed him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Gurke and Hare on June 10, 2021, 03:20:38 PM
What colour are readheads' eyes normally? I pretty much never notice people's eye colour, it always surprises me when people are described in terms of it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Leej88 on June 10, 2021, 03:24:08 PM
Molly Ringwald has brown eyes and red hair.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 10, 2021, 03:25:36 PM
Most of the redheads I've known have had light brown eyes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 10, 2021, 03:31:33 PM
Maybe it's a contrast thing in his case - redheaded women will use mascara etc. to add definition to their features (I'm a fake redhead with small, dark blue eyes and basically have to draw them back in to not look weird on camera). So they just look like two little currants on top of a bun.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on June 10, 2021, 03:40:30 PM
He looks like what would happen if Laurence Fox was possessed by Pazuzu.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on June 10, 2021, 10:43:29 PM
It's worse than that, it's like something from HS Art

Oh come on, man's a cunt but that's a bit much
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ProvanFan on June 10, 2021, 11:34:36 PM
I don't think his hair has much to do with it, it's just his eyes are terrifying.

Liked him in Brotherly Love though.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pcsjwgm on June 11, 2021, 03:24:31 AM
I've watched this probably three or four times now, having to rewind some bits to make sure the above post accurately captured what he was saying, and I just had the sudden realisation that there isn't a single joke in there. M

Made me think of this piece from Spiked (obviously praising Lawrence) that I read a while ago, which made me laugh when I first read it.
Quote
It is this sentiment that has made stand-up Andrew Lawrence the butt of performers-bar jokes. Last year, Lawrence was savaged by his colleagues when he published a long and scathing Facebook comment that took aim at the ‘liberal back-slapping’ on TV panel shows: ‘Aging, balding, fat men, ethnic comedians and women-posing-as-comedians, sit congratulating themselves on how enlightened they are about the fact that UKIP are ridiculous and pathetic.’ He was quickly dismissed as ‘bitter’ and ‘self-delusional’ and more or less kicked out of the comedy fraternity.

This year, in response, he’s brought his new show, Uncensored, to the Fringe; it’s his most uncompromising and politically charged yet. Pledging ‘absolutely no concessions made to political correctness’, he goes after the comedy establishment – reserving special bile for Stewart Lee – before taking on the burning issues that PC crusaders keep us from discussing, from immigration to Rochdale.

The show is a little low on the gags, but that’s not the point. It’s like a public exorcism, a release of all the pent-up fury this right-wing comedian has had to keep a lid on during his years on the circuit. But there are those who seem unconvinced by Lawrence’s tirade against the censoriousness of PC. Comics will point out that the fact that he’s still performing Uncensored as planned proves that, for all his caterwauling, he can say what he wants. He may have lost some friends, but not his liberties.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2015/08/21/the-biggest-threat-to-comedy-self-censorship/
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 11, 2021, 08:50:57 AM
What did he say about Stewart Lee?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Utter Shit on June 11, 2021, 09:58:02 AM
Lawrence's career trajectory marks him out to me as a chancer who will happily take on whatever persona he thinks will make him a few bob.

He started off as an outsider doing weird poetry and stories that got him a bit of exposure. Then a few years later he ended up on Radio 4 doing pretty bland, safe Radio 4 comedy. That dried up and he leaned the other way into this anti-woke nonsense. He's a comedy grifter, basically.

Also, the titles of his Radio 4 shows sum up his career quite nicely.

What To Do If You're Not Like Everybody Else
How Did We End Up Like This?
Shipwrecked
There Is No Escape


Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Leej88 on June 11, 2021, 10:02:07 AM
Plus a guest spot on Ideal.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on June 11, 2021, 11:36:04 AM
Lawrence's career trajectory marks him out to me as a chancer who will happily take on whatever persona he thinks will make him a few bob.

I must've mentioned this before, but I enjoyed his airbrushed-to-fuck posters for his 2013 Edinburgh fringe show when he was clearly trying to appeal to fans of your t-shirt comedians.

(https://www.chortle.co.uk/images/photos/small/al_andrew_lawrence_no_escape.jpg)

People paying a tenner must've been disappointed when they turned up expecting a Russell Howard or a Russell Kane and got this weasel:

(https://files.list.co.uk/images/2012/12/13/andrew-lawrence-shhh-LST094.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on June 11, 2021, 11:43:03 AM
I must've mentioned this before, but I enjoyed his airbrushed-to-fuck posters for his 2013 Edinburgh fringe show when he was clearly trying to appeal to fans of your t-shirt comedians.

(https://www.chortle.co.uk/images/photos/small/al_andrew_lawrence_no_escape.jpg)

People paying a tenner must've been disappointed when they turned up expecting a Russell Howard or a Russell Kane and got this weasel:

(https://files.list.co.uk/images/2012/12/13/andrew-lawrence-shhh-LST094.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/gHjJ88Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wet Blanket on June 11, 2021, 11:47:37 AM
Lawrence's career trajectory marks him out to me as a chancer who will happily take on whatever persona he thinks will make him a few bob.

He started off as an outsider doing weird poetry and stories that got him a bit of exposure. Then a few years later he ended up on Radio 4 doing pretty bland, safe Radio 4 comedy. That dried up and he leaned the other way into this anti-woke nonsense. He's a comedy grifter, basically.

Also, the titles of his Radio 4 shows sum up his career quite nicely.

What To Do If You're Not Like Everybody Else
How Did We End Up Like This?
Shipwrecked
There Is No Escape

I suspect he thinks he's on to a good grift but if he'd had any nouse he could have skewed towards the right without going full white-van-man and joined the other two sorta-Tory comics, Geoff Norcott and that Brighton guy with the little eyes as the acceptable face of conservative comedy. He already had the Radio 4 profile and everything. Instead he's just pained himself into the corner of angry has-beens on Twitter with Lee Hurst.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 11, 2021, 11:49:50 AM
Lawrence's career trajectory marks him out to me as a chancer who will happily take on whatever persona he thinks will make him a few bob.

He started off as an outsider doing weird poetry and stories that got him a bit of exposure. Then a few years later he ended up on Radio 4 doing pretty bland, safe Radio 4 comedy. That dried up and he leaned the other way into this anti-woke nonsense. He's a comedy grifter, basically.


I'm not sure whether it's that calculated. For all intents and purposes, Andrew Lawrence was a successful stand-up who'd made the transition from the circuit to Radio 4 and briefly on TV. Many comedians take a while to find their voice and try out different styles and attitudes, this doesn't necessarily make them careerist dilettantes. Nor sellouts because they've found a way to become more accessible to put some food on the table.

Somewhere along the line, Lawrence began to feel excluded for whatever reason. So, after all these years of driving to a thousand gigs, wanking alone in Travelodges, and dying many times on stage to get this far, only to not become a regular on Mock The Week or Taskmaster? Bastards! He's clearly become curdled by this rejection and decided 'the lefties' are to blame, even though plenty of liberal comics of all stripes have not had a sniff either (probably because they're not represented by the big comedy agencies)  I'm not convinced the likes of Lawrence, Lee Hurst, etc wake up one morning and set out to be 'anti-woke grifters' any more than I believe Josie Long and friends are grifting for the 'woke dollar'.

The truth is, that's showbusiness. Everything about it is appeeeealing, but it's always been a cruel, fickle, arbitrary, unimaginative cunt, irrespective of what you look like and how you vote.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on June 11, 2021, 11:55:47 AM
I was trying to work out what's so odd about him. I think it's because he has red hair but brown eyes. I don't think I've ever seen that before.
I thought you needed 2 blue-eyed parents to get blue eyes and 2 red-haired parents to get red hair but according to Wikipedia, eye colour is MUCH MORE COMPLICATED (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_color): "The genetics of eye color are so complex that almost any parent-child combination of eye colors can occur." Just in case you're about to throw your wife and child out onto the street (or vice versa).
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 11, 2021, 12:00:56 PM
Brundle: Yeah I could see that, I just think it's dumb as hell to blame lefties when they have such little power and influence, but the right never admits that.

Just being on Twitter and Facebook ends up making a lot of people waaaaay more polarised in their attitudes and opinions, too.

Made me think of this piece from Spiked (obviously praising Lawrence) that I read a while ago, which made me laugh when I first read it.https://www.spiked-online.com/2015/08/21/the-biggest-threat-to-comedy-self-censorship/

Lol, good old Spiked.
To be fair, I tried watching his new clip where he does Joe Boden, and there were actually jokes in it, but they were all of the "oooh I'm senile and forget words" variety. Hit bits just seem like the longest two minutes in the world. Partly I think the material is at fault, but I may also have to keep away from that bloody YouTube "Shorts" tiktok thing. Watching millions of short clips of lions, tigers and Sheena Malwani laughing at her husband isn't doing my dire attention span and hyperactivity much good, I feel.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 11, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
He looks sort of albiro-ish.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on June 11, 2021, 12:07:34 PM
What To Do If You're Not Like Everybody Else
How Did We End Up Like This?
Shipwrecked
There Is No Escape
they all sound like live shows where on the tour poster he's shrugging with a quizzical gurn
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on June 11, 2021, 12:37:18 PM
Brundle: Yeah I could see that, I just think it's dumb as hell to blame lefties when they have such little power and influence, but the right never admits that.

Just being on Twitter and Facebook ends up making a lot of people waaaaay more polarised in their attitudes and opinions, too.

Lol, good old Spiked.
To be fair, I tried watching his new clip where he does Joe Boden, and there were actually jokes in it, but they were all of the "oooh I'm senile and forget words" variety. Hit bits just seem like the longest two minutes in the world. Partly I think the material is at fault, but I may also have to keep away from that bloody YouTube "Shorts" tiktok thing. Watching millions of short clips of lions, tigers and Sheena Malwani laughing at her husband isn't doing my dire attention span and hyperactivity much good, I feel.
Ah yes, ye olde liberal establishment bullshit, even though the Tories have been in power for over a decade and this is one of the most right-wing governments I've lived under since Thatcher.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 11, 2021, 01:44:00 PM
TBF, if big posters of me were going up all over Edinburgh I'd get them airbrushed ro fuck too.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 11, 2021, 01:47:17 PM
there's a lot of threads about right wing bogeymen in our midst these days and you can usually find people clinging on to the old days or the fact that some of it is still good/"apolitical" or that yeah it is unacceptable but there's good bits but NEVER in Andrew Lawrence threads, everyone seems to agree that he is shit and was never really good enough to merit any kind of saving from ignominy.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on June 12, 2021, 01:10:51 AM
there's a lot of threads about right wing bogeymen in our midst these days and you can usually find people clinging on to the old days or the fact that some of it is still good/"apolitical" or that yeah it is unacceptable but there's good bits but NEVER in Andrew Lawrence threads, everyone seems to agree that he is shit and was never really good enough to merit any kind of saving from ignominy.
I think some people liked the weirdness of his stuff way back when, I remember giving him a few tries and not getting it at all. Having a quick trawl through the internet for old shows and I'm seeing a LOT of 3 star reviews.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on June 12, 2021, 09:02:57 AM
lions, tigers and Sheena Malwani laughing at her husband

Surreal image
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on June 12, 2021, 12:10:46 PM
there's a lot of threads about right wing bogeymen in our midst these days and you can usually find people clinging on to the old days or the fact that some of it is still good/"apolitical" or that yeah it is unacceptable but there's good bits but NEVER in Andrew Lawrence threads, everyone seems to agree that he is shit and was never really good enough to merit any kind of saving from ignominy.
I think some people liked the weirdness of his stuff way back when, I remember giving him a few tries and not getting it at all. Having a quick trawl through the internet for old shows and I'm seeing a LOT of 3 star reviews.

Milk Run was one of the things he did that people liked (me included). It's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSagYgc84c

What did he say about Stewart Lee?

'Sell-out', 'rancid fucking impostor', and 'smug, elitist Oxbridge' Stewart Lee, according to three different reviewers.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 13, 2021, 01:30:35 PM
He's just posted this on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6CRdiduCs8
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bomb_dog on June 13, 2021, 01:38:36 PM
I feel somewhat happier knowing I won’t click this and get myself wound up by whatever he’s trying to monetise unjustified anger about in this one.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 13, 2021, 01:41:29 PM
Milk Run was one of the things he did that people liked (me included). It's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSagYgc84c


Monkey Dust meets Jam? but a bit too try-hard.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 13, 2021, 01:44:09 PM
He's just posted this on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6CRdiduCs8

Lovely selection of RACIST CUNTS in the comments.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on June 13, 2021, 08:13:15 PM
Monkey Dust meets Jam? but a bit too try-hard.

In a manner he was a bit unfortunate with the timing of his career. The Monkey Dust type stuff he was probably effortlessly okay at churning out was pretty much at its peak around the time he emerged, and he got loads of "best newcomer" style accolades to back it up. Would've probably been a much healthier life to never have had the notion that being a comedian could be a valid career choice.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 13, 2021, 08:20:16 PM
I feel somewhat happier knowing I won’t click this and get myself wound up by whatever he’s trying to monetise unjustified anger about in this one.

Ill summarise, calls Biden and Trudeau nonces, goes on a rant about Sterling being picked, which clearly hasn’t aged very well as I believe Sterling scored Englands winning goal - ooopsie.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chrispmartha on June 13, 2021, 08:23:00 PM
Lovely selection of RACIST CUNTS in the comments.

Wow! You’re not wrong.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 13, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
Would've probably been a much healthier life to never have had the notion that being a comedian could be a valid career choice.

He doesn't seem like someone who is naturally funny, to say the least.[1]
 1. Yeah, I know: look who's talking!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on June 13, 2021, 09:19:11 PM
He doesn't seem like someone who is naturally funny, to say the least.[1]
 1. Yeah, I know: look who's talking!
That's what I mean, he got a bit more encouragement than he perhaps warranted based on just being a bit of a weird guy in the right way at the right time.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 13, 2021, 09:24:29 PM
I enjoyed that Milk Run clip posted upthread in a knock-off Blue Jam meets Vic Reeves House Arrest way. Shame for the lad, you hate to see it, etc.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 13, 2021, 10:47:09 PM
I enjoyed that Milk Run clip posted upthread in a knock-off Blue Jam meets Vic Reeves House Arrest way. Shame for the lad, you hate to see it, etc.

I liked the music better than the bits with him speaking.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 14, 2021, 07:14:37 AM
Yes, it was just nasty. The payoff limp. I cringed. 4/10 for the attempt
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 14, 2021, 09:01:01 AM
hah I didn't get to the end, I liked the prose style in the bit I listened to
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 14, 2021, 01:48:52 PM
Lovely selection of RACIST CUNTS in the comments.
"Croatia, a team made up entirely of people actually from that Country, not taking a knee and have arguably the best football strip in the world, that's my team in 2021 as an Englishman."
The Croatian team is mostly ethnic Croats ? I wonder how that happened.

"Should start a chant to free Derek Chauvin"
As if to prove their point

"Nothing compares to the England teams of Italia ‘90 through to France’98. There was passion, tenacity, blood and a roller coaster of emotions!!"
And they won fuck-all.

"Sold your freedom for a game of football and a pint, get your papers out papers out now or of to the transition with you (Yes master we Oby)"
What ?

"Are there any indigenous anglo boys in the english side? Genuine question."
You could look at the team sheet, or maybe measure their skulls.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on June 14, 2021, 02:13:59 PM
That's what I mean, he got a bit more encouragement than he perhaps warranted based on just being a bit of a weird guy in the right way at the right time.

I saw one of his Edinburgh shows at the point where the industry still bought him as a potential panel show star, he clearly had talent doing silly accents & observational material with an aggressive edge. But it also looked like he didn’t enjoy it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 14, 2021, 02:19:30 PM
Lol @ indigenous anglos

better not be any celt, saxon, norman or viking in *my* team
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: TheGingerAlien on June 14, 2021, 02:32:01 PM
So that's two brown-eyed redheads. Are there any more?

By internet racist logic, I think having brown eyes makes him non-white.

Stick me on the list too, thanks.  Creepy-eyed ginge, reporting for ridicule. Same as it ever was. “Redhead girls are fit though!”  YAWN.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on June 14, 2021, 02:41:32 PM
There seems to be a big thing about English as an ethnicity at the moment. It is basically a way of denigrating black or asian English nationals when they can't tell them to go back where they came from. Technically English is an ethnicity but it is basically pointless as you would need to trace your family tree back dozens of generations to prove you were of that ethnicity, and the only people who care about it are racist cunts
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on June 14, 2021, 03:01:36 PM
"Croatia, a team made up entirely of people actually from that Country, not taking a knee and have arguably the best football strip in the world, that's my team in 2021 as an Englishman."
The Croatian team is mostly ethnic Croats ? I wonder how that happened.

"Should start a chant to free Derek Chauvin"
As if to prove their point

"Nothing compares to the England teams of Italia ‘90 through to France’98. There was passion, tenacity, blood and a roller coaster of emotions!!"
And they won fuck-all.

"Sold your freedom for a game of football and a pint, get your papers out papers out now or of to the transition with you (Yes master we Oby)"
What ?

"Are there any indigenous anglo boys in the english side? Genuine question."
You could look at the team sheet, or maybe measure their skulls.
Football fans and their constant obsession with PASHUN make me stabby. As if the current England team are soulless robots, as if people weren't having ALL OF THE FEELZ about England last WC. Likewise the racism. What do they do when, as happened against Croatia, a black player scores? Does he suddenly become white?

Also, did they forget John Barnes, Ian Wright, Andy Cole, Sol Campbell and all the other black players of the '90s? Or when Graham Taylor stood up for Barnes when fans were abusing him?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 14, 2021, 03:14:26 PM
Also, did they forget John Barnes, Ian Wright, Andy Cole, Sol Campbell and all the other black players of the '90s? Or when Graham Taylor stood up for Barnes when fans were abusing him?
"The Boys of '66 were all white. Coincidence? I'll let you make up your own mind!"
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 14, 2021, 03:46:20 PM
"The Boys of '66 were all white. Coincidence? I'll let you make up your own mind!"
Beat a 10 man Argentina after a dubious red card for Argentina's Rattin in the quarter final.
England's third goal in the final wasn't a goal, and the 'they think it's all over' clincher was scored after the West German team had stopped bothering to play. (Play should have been stopped as fans were reportedly on the playing field.)
Fucking cheats.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on June 14, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
England also got owned by a fat Argentinian midget in the '80s.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on June 14, 2021, 03:55:33 PM
"Nothing compares to the England teams of Italia ‘90 through to France’98. There was passion, tenacity, blood and a roller coaster of emotions!!"

i.e. when I was young enough to give a shit and hadn't become a soulless husk from years of petty hatred and envy
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 14, 2021, 04:41:15 PM
Everyone forgets that period when England qualified for nothing, but I suppose they were all pretending to be Irish and there are absolutely no black people in Ireland at all, so they get to keep their 'indigenous' credentials.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 14, 2021, 05:19:51 PM
There seems to be a big thing about English as an ethnicity at the moment. It is basically a way of denigrating black or asian English nationals when they can't tell them to go back where they came from. Technically English is an ethnicity but it is basically pointless as you would need to trace your family tree back dozens of generations to prove you were of that ethnicity, and the only people who care about it are racist cunts
A bunch of ethnic English find out they aren't. https://www.thedossier.info/video/100-percent-english.htm
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 14, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
A bunch of ethnic English find out they aren't. https://www.thedossier.info/video/100-percent-english.htm

Looks interesting, will try to watch that later. Funnily enough, I'm just reading up about the Spanish Armada in Ireland at the minute - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Armada_in_Ireland think it will likely explain my dark eyes and hair. The locals would always speak Spanish to my Granny when she went on holiday.

Anyway yeah, still wouldn't change the mind of racists if they knew this stuff, they'd just handwave it away somehow.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on June 14, 2021, 05:32:21 PM
His most popular video is this rant on the Indian COVID variant - 142k views, 2.7k comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrE-h-Kveo

Comments are a shitshow of conspiracy theorists who are watching and agreeing with no sense of irony. It's Al's Pub landlord x100. Top three comments:

"A genuinely deadly pandemic wouldn't require a 24/7 Govt and corporate media fear mongering campaign to make you believe it's real.🙄"
"I feel like im in an abusive relationship with the government."
"Well said."
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 14, 2021, 06:11:17 PM
"6uild 6ack 6etter they’ve noticed we’ve seen the 666, so now it’s 6uild 6ack 9reener, they’ve turned the last 6 upside down hoping they’ve fooled us."
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: imitationleather on June 14, 2021, 06:35:29 PM
I really miss the team England took to USA '94.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 14, 2021, 07:39:51 PM
I really miss the team England took to USA '94.
Probably just say that enough of the Irish squad (and the manager) were born in England to count.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 14, 2021, 09:18:15 PM
Milk Run was one of the things he did that people liked (me included). It's on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSagYgc84c


I really like that song Terminally Ambivalent to You, near the start of of part two of that.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Benjaminos on June 14, 2021, 11:50:09 PM
His most popular video is this rant on the Indian COVID variant - 142k views, 2.7k comments:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrE-h-Kveo

I'm genuinely confused by these videos. Is the joke just 'haha, this is what a cunt would say'? I'm guessing so, given the name of the 'character', but how does that jibe with his audience presumably being the kind of anti-woke free speech nutters who (presumably) actually share quite a large proportion of those views?

If it's not that, then there are literally no jokes in the video? I don't get it.

Edit: Oh, I see I've just basically rephrased the OP. Not just me then, ok.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on June 15, 2021, 12:36:55 AM
I think Jonathan Pie is the same sort of thing and maybe to blame.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on June 15, 2021, 08:23:51 AM
I’m reminded by this that Lawrence filmed a set for series 2 of the Alternative Comedy Experience that was never used. In the finished show the comics set was intercut with footage of the comedian being interviewed by Stewart Lee, a real shame we’ll never see whatever was shot of Lee interviewing Lawrence, as it’s a good bet it was awkward as fuck.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on June 15, 2021, 09:50:16 AM

Anyway yeah, still wouldn't change the mind of racists if they knew this stuff, they'd just handwave it away somehow.

Yeah the ethnic English thing has just come about so that they can be racist to English-born non-white people without being 100% overtly racist. If it wasn't that it would be something about English "mentality" or "spirit" or some other bullshit
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 15, 2021, 09:56:27 AM
He posted this just an hour ago under a character I've not seen before, Dr Gideon Micropenis, as a 'satire' against woke academics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnwUtR6tm4
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 09:58:57 AM
He posted this just an hour ago under a character I've not seen before, Dr Gideon Micropenis, as a 'satire' against woke academics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmnwUtR6tm4

this one is on his rolodex of characters, definitely seen something before. In fact I played it to a couple of fellow academics and we all had to put cold creams on each other's rumps after being roasted so hard.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Utter Shit on June 15, 2021, 10:12:38 AM
The problem is, as shit as this stuff all is, if you look at the views on Youtube it's clearly a path that works for him.

He's not getting big numbers or anything, but at a rough estimate I'd say he's probably getting five times' more views on Youtube than he was when he was doing his earlier stuff. Around 250k views in the past week alone. The one he released yesterday has been more viewed more in 24 hours than most of his videos have got in years.

He can knock any old shit out as long as it panders to that crowd, because they're not watching him demanding he be funny, just that he say things they agree with. Whether that transfers to ticket sales I don't know.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 15, 2021, 10:13:45 AM
Pandering hackery.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on June 15, 2021, 10:26:05 AM
I mean if you don't mind pandering to people who are so overtly racist they think there shouldn't be any black people in the English football team.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on June 15, 2021, 10:28:09 AM
He can knock any old shit out as long as it panders to that crowd, because they're not watching him demanding he be funny, just that he say things they agree with. Whether that transfers to ticket sales I don't know.

I think it keeps him at about the same level, funnily enough. He played the Bromsgrove Artrix pre-lockdown, tickets were still available but by no means empty. He's on the Middle England arts centres route with Henning Wehn and Geoff Norcross.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 10:47:15 AM
I think Jonathan Pie is the same sort of thing and maybe to blame.

He's definitely been an influence on Lawrence but he doesn't seem nearly as extreme.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on June 15, 2021, 11:23:38 AM
The problem is, as shit as this stuff all is, if you look at the views on Youtube it's clearly a path that works for him.

He's not getting big numbers or anything, but at a rough estimate I'd say he's probably getting five times' more views on Youtube than he was when he was doing his earlier stuff. Around 250k views in the past week alone. The one he released yesterday has been more viewed more in 24 hours than most of his videos have got in years.
Allegedly you can make about £2-£8 per 1000 Youtube views (https://www.onefamily.com/talking-finance/finance/how-much-do-youtubers-make/) (big stars get paid the higher end, and it probably depends on your demographics) so that's £500+ per week. I guess it's better than the dole?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on June 15, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
I think Jonathan Pie is the same sort of thing and maybe to blame.

Yes! He's the right wing Pie. Telling it 'like it is' through a character with a silly name and calling it comedy.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 11:44:57 AM
Isn't Pie the right wing Pie?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on June 15, 2021, 01:28:12 PM
He's actually onto a winner with these character videos. 1m views in the past 30 days and 200 new subscribers per day. Possibly earning $4k per month

https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UC876yBInncBfsiknqMdHvuA

Look at the stats for his channel before May, it was dead.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 01:33:51 PM
Isn't Pie the right wing Pie?

From the several videos I've watched of Pie, he seems to take a pop at the Government as much as the Left. I could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Thursday on June 15, 2021, 01:52:26 PM
Isn't Pie the right wing Pie?

He's the centrist dad/common sense/I'm a labour voter but the left have gone too "woke" pie.

So yeah he is right-wing but he wouldn't think of himself as right-wing.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Harry Badger on June 15, 2021, 01:53:40 PM

Comments are a shitshow of conspiracy theorists who are watching and agreeing with no sense of irony. It's Al's Pub landlord x100.


Funny you should mention him. There was a doc on Sky a few years back following Lawrence's fall from grace. One scene had him watching a video of his own show, with Al Murray sitting beside him. Murray was cackling along with it for a while, before Lawrence made a joke that was a little bit dicey. All of a sudden, Murray switched to 'serious, disapproving look' as though he couldn't be seen to be laughing at it. Mind, he also commiserated Lawrence, saying 'if you're taking flak, you're over the target'.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on June 15, 2021, 01:54:21 PM
He's the centrist dad/common sense/I'm a labour voter but the left have gone too "woke" pie.
Ah, yes - the "something must be done about this, but only if it doesn't affect my cosy lifestyle" stance?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 02:40:13 PM
He's the centrist dad/common sense/I'm a labour voter but the left have gone too "woke" pie.

So yeah he is right-wing but he wouldn't think of himself as right-wing.

.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 02:50:34 PM
.

I thought Thursday's description was bang on, and nailed it in a way I couldn't describe. A lot of other posters would be better placed to answer your post, but the way I feel is basically that the actual left has been redefined as the "far left."

There are an awful lot of bigots who will add "...and I'm left wing!" to the end of their rants, while clearly being nothing of the sort.

Edit: sorry, I started replying before you edited.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ASFTSN on June 15, 2021, 04:04:54 PM
Do people watch this bloke's stuff and laugh together? I know it's a cheap stereotype, but I can't picture it, it just seems like humour to eject a puff of air through your nostrils to. Alone.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 04:07:31 PM
I thought Thursday's description was bang on, and nailed it in a way I couldn't describe. A lot of other posters would be better placed to answer your post, but the way I feel is basically that the actual left has been redefined as the "far left."

There are an awful lot of bigots who will add "...and I'm left wing!" to the end of their rants, while clearly being nothing of the sort.

Edit: sorry, I started replying before you edited.

I deleted my post, Barry, because I define right-wing very differently from how some people do today, so I'm on a hiding to nothing to add anything here.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 04:33:12 PM
Yeah I'd be interested to hear how you would define it?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 04:54:44 PM
Andrew Lawrence?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 05:25:47 PM
Right-wing. Fair play if you don't want to tho, was just curious as to the disparity.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on June 15, 2021, 05:54:07 PM
[just gonna remove this pointless racism to avoid having to read the reports later -BAdmin]
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 05:59:39 PM
Impenetrable.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on June 15, 2021, 06:09:13 PM
Right-wing. Fair play if you don't want to tho, was just curious as to the disparity.

Cheers. I prefer to have these conversations over a pint.

Anyway, tell us a joke ffs Andrew!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on June 15, 2021, 06:18:20 PM
I was quoting from the most recently posted Andrew Lawrence video. Was also going to write a comment underneath about how the unfunny little snot is no better than Roy " Chubby" Brown with comments like that, the context in which it's made , in common with his other videos, is extremely ambiguous as to whether he's hilariously and very cleverly satirising those somewhat unpleasant views, or are actually his own beliefs which he is able to get out there with impressive comedy voices,  and delightedly wanks off to the approving comments he gets from the racists and reactionaries what take those comments at 100% face value. I just thought I'd let the actual quote speak for itself, but that seems to have been an unwise move.

He was good in " Ideal", though.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 06:24:25 PM
Sorry, I didn't recognise that as I haven't seen it, and it looked very bad out of context. Thanks for explaining.

Apologies again.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on June 15, 2021, 06:27:26 PM
Yeah, no worries Barry. Really can't blame you for not bothering to look at the video, quite the sensible option, really.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on June 15, 2021, 06:35:31 PM
Spiked's Jonathan Pie? Wasn't he co-created by whoever does Titania McGrath (which I thought was Andrew Lawrence)?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on June 15, 2021, 06:41:16 PM
Yeah, that's Andrew Doyle though.

Yeah, no worries Barry. Really can't blame you for not bothering to look at the video, quite the sensible option, really.

Well I had to go and watch it now, didn't I :-D

Bloody hell, what a piece of shit. You almost think he's gonna surprise you, there, when he blames the government for their reluctance to put India on the red list...

..Then he blames it on inclusiveness and globalism! Is he fucking stupid, or does he really just knowingly pander to cunts? That's what really intrigues me. Is he another pillock who's been radicalised by Twitter, or is he just saying shit he knows is bollocks to flog tickets and appeal to hateful pricks?

India wasn't put on the red list for ages because of his fucking fans - all the tedious, little Englander racists who voted for Brexit now leave the UK absolutely gasping for a fucking trade deal with India, which is going to end up with Modi asking for - tada - more free movement rather than less.

So fucking slap that right up ye, cunts.

("Delta variant" is the video being discussed.)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on June 15, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
Spiked's Jonathan Pie? Wasn't he co-created by whoever does Titania McGrath (which I thought was Andrew Lawrence)?
Andrew Doyle. I made that mistake too initially!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on June 15, 2021, 07:38:27 PM
Andrew Doyle. I made that mistake too initially!

Yeah, the Andrew Doyle who now has his own show on GB News.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on June 16, 2021, 12:11:16 AM
The problem is, as shit as this stuff all is, if you look at the views on Youtube it's clearly a path that works for him.

He's not getting big numbers or anything, but at a rough estimate I'd say he's probably getting five times' more views on Youtube than he was when he was doing his earlier stuff. Around 250k views in the past week alone. The one he released yesterday has been more viewed more in 24 hours than most of his videos have got in years.

He can knock any old shit out as long as it panders to that crowd, because they're not watching him demanding he be funny, just that he say things they agree with. Whether that transfers to ticket sales I don't know.

Is it really a problem, ultimately who cares? He’s burned his bridges with the mainstream, you’re not going to have to see him on telly or anything. Yes it’s ironic he’s claiming to be the voice of the dispossessed working class when his audience is middle age and middle class, but there’s a lot of that in comedy (say, Josie Long or Mark Thomas slamming public schools when they probably know a significant chunk of their Edinburgh audiences went to public school)

I don’t think Lawrence is as offensive as say, Jimmy Carr, punching down when he’s as establishment as it gets and is playing to thousands every night. 
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 16, 2021, 07:02:06 AM
Andy Lawrence on being banned by the BBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qEpy8doW70
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on June 16, 2021, 07:20:55 AM
But the middle aged and middle class are the ones that think that they *are* disposessed. 
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on June 16, 2021, 04:22:15 PM
It's not that he's offensive.

It's that his offensiveness is extremely unfunny.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 16, 2021, 10:01:03 PM
Hark at the comments on his latest video.  They're all saying the Conservatives are thinly-disguised lefties.  Also, Lawrence uses a character to blow his own trumpet as himself, Andy Lawrence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhSYpfXd27w
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: McFlymo on June 16, 2021, 11:37:58 PM
What a useless prick.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on June 17, 2021, 12:32:31 AM
Hark at the comments on his latest video.  They're all saying the Conservatives are thinly-disguised lefties.  Also, Lawrence uses a character to blow his own trumpet as himself, Andy Lawrence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhSYpfXd27w

This is literally the same rant he did as Kevin Countabout, regarding Boris delaying "freedom day". Except this time he's begging people to buy his stand-up tickets.

Also on his Twitter, 2 our of 3 posts are him begging for people to support him and buy tickets. I'm guessing his current tour isn't selling too well.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mobius on June 17, 2021, 12:57:38 AM
Damn I just went to Andrew Lawrence's twitter, and he's blocked me :(
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 17, 2021, 01:23:48 AM
"Spot on, Andrew - laughed my arse off. Thanks"
Laughed his arse off at that ? A bloke pretending to be his own agent, having a moan. Hilarious.
They fucking love 'spot on' don't they ?

"The lynchings have to begin.The time for TALK, has loooong passed!!"




Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: C_Larence on June 17, 2021, 06:03:38 AM
I wonder if I’ll ever be as happy as Andrew Lawrence must have been when he found out about sunglasses.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 17, 2021, 07:09:48 AM
"Spot on, Andrew - laughed my arse off. Thanks"
Laughed his arse off at that ? A bloke pretending to be his own agent, having a moan. Hilarious.
They fucking love 'spot on' don't they ?

"The lynchings have to begin.The time for TALK, has loooong passed!!"

Precis!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on June 17, 2021, 08:35:08 AM
This is literally the same rant he did as Kevin Countabout

Remember that Channel Four show, Cuntdown?

Back to Lawrence, I see he's asking for Paypal donations.

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1405224880862289920
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on June 17, 2021, 08:57:24 AM
Remember that Channel Four show, Cuntdown?



Yes

Thwump

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5Ld8A1Z2BkI/T-iWM8vRLZI/AAAAAAAAJkQ/DFEdt5afBtE/s801/wimblemong2.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on June 17, 2021, 02:10:19 PM

Back to Lawrence, I see he's asking for Paypal donations.

https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1405224880862289920

That’s not exactly uncommon though. Heck, this very day I gave Tom Walker AUS$13.37 to put on a wig. I was pleased with my purchase.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on June 30, 2021, 02:03:33 PM
I've noticed a lot of the "I ain't supporting the snowflake/kneeling/non-white/PC England team" replies in Lawrence's Keef Cuntabout tweet have been deleted. Seems like the racist cunts are back on the 'It's coming home !' bandwagon.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on June 30, 2021, 02:11:02 PM
lol he begs for money under every shitty little video he does. What a turd
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 02, 2021, 05:33:55 PM
Andrew Lawrence, in character as a 'woke' professor, satirising a position on Bill Cosby that I've not seen any evidence even exists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN07FnwU2s
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on July 02, 2021, 06:23:55 PM
I can't click on the link for some reason. It's because he's a disgusting turd, and a disgrace to comedy.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Jittlebags on July 03, 2021, 12:46:40 AM
Liked the Turkey Dinosaur bit in There Is No Escape.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 03, 2021, 01:14:40 AM
I've noticed a lot of the "I ain't supporting the snowflake/kneeling/non-white/PC England team" replies in Lawrence's Keef Cuntabout tweet have been deleted. Seems like the racist cunts are back on the 'It's coming home !' bandwagon.
Until we get knocked out by Ukraine, then they’ll be right back to calling Sterling a gorilla.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on July 12, 2021, 12:14:19 PM
What an appalling cunt: https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1414496398867931136
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 12:19:33 PM
Dead-eyed cunt
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 12, 2021, 12:27:29 PM
Wow. Such banter.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 12, 2021, 12:31:19 PM
looking in the replies, a theatre already pulled one of his shows.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on July 12, 2021, 12:33:00 PM
He makes a very convincing pissholes-in-the-snow-eyed racist, doesn't he? Full commitment to the act every minute of his life.

Would hope he gets banned for this, but presumably that's what he's angling for anyway.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Petey Pate on July 12, 2021, 12:45:46 PM
What was the tweet? His account seems to have been deleted.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 12, 2021, 12:46:53 PM
that was quick, it was up literally 3 minutes ago.

it said something like 'just saying, the players that scored penalties last night were white' and then he quote tweeted himself with something awful and double downish
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 12, 2021, 12:48:45 PM
now quite a few of his shows have been pulled

clearly this represents something of a breakthrough for him
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 12, 2021, 12:50:38 PM

The first tweet was:
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All I'm saying is, the white guys scored

Then he quote tweeted that with:
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I can see this has offended a lot of people, and I'm sorry that black guys are bad at penalties

The fucking cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on July 12, 2021, 12:52:22 PM
So he's not got any pretentions of not being a racist now, does he not?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 12:53:11 PM
Think he might have just deleted it himself. The comments under his video about how all leftists are glad to see Bill Cosby out of jail because of racism had mostly 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 replies, but these football ones were getting mostly people telling him to fuck off. Thin-skinned grifting little prick.

Thing is, he's objectively not funny. He doesn't have any jokes or let anything land. He just takes a strawman position and rants nonstop. I cant even finish one of his videos and they're barely a minute. That's partly because his eyes drill into my soul though
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 12:54:14 PM
Think he might have just deleted it himself. The comments under his video about how all leftists are glad to see Bill Cosby out of jail because of racism had mostly 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 replies, but these football ones were getting mostly people telling him to fuck off. Thin-skinned grifting little prick.

Thing is, he's objectively not funny. He doesn't have any jokes or let anything land. He just takes a strawman position and rants nonstop. I cant even finish one of his videos and they're barely a minute. That's partly because his eyes drill into my soul though
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Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 12, 2021, 12:54:33 PM
So he's not got any pretentions of not being a racist now, does he not?

Exactly. Total, blatant racism. Makes the cast of The Comedians seem woke by comparison.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 01:09:52 PM
actually because this football racism is such a top story, twitter have been actively culling accounts so they might have legitimately booted this nasty unfunny cunt off
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: SpiderChrist on July 12, 2021, 01:19:36 PM
Fuck me what an absolute cunt
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 12, 2021, 01:23:38 PM
Does the BBC still pay him?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: studpuppet on July 12, 2021, 01:27:43 PM
https://twitter.com/john3ners/status/1414553145334710278 (https://twitter.com/john3ners/status/1414553145334710278)

As someone says in replies, the irony of having your show cancelled in a place called Whitehaven.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: lankyguy95 on July 12, 2021, 01:28:06 PM
Seriously though, unreal. The posts of a 13 year old who's going through a brief edgy phase. Not a guy who's fucking 41 years old.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: canadagoose on July 12, 2021, 01:31:56 PM
Is he going to try and paint Whitehaven as "woke" now? Isn't it a working-class industrial town in Northern England? He's going to have to contort himself into some position to claim that.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
Funnily enough, lee hurst is keeping away from football racisms for tedious baldness about vaccines and masks

You can click through Andrew's tour links and a lot have "no tickets available".

you can still book at Guildford and Maidstone, lol. and Leicester Square, appropriately.

i'm sure his promoter will just pull the whole tour after this though (perhaps they have and venues are reacting to it?). it'd be like a unite-the-right rally if any went ahead. the guy has publicly participated in a headline racism scandal, he's fucked himself for good
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: RicoMNKN on July 12, 2021, 02:18:08 PM
I wonder if it was intended as ironic racism, and he's genuinely unaware that his 'anti-woke' position makes such jokes unworkable, when no one would have any faith that he doesn't actually mean it.

I mean, it seems a little blunt, even for him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on July 12, 2021, 02:30:53 PM
Does the BBC still pay him?

He burned his bridges with the mainstream years ago. Insulted Dara Ó Briain and it was clear in the fallout he was never getting on any tv panel or stand up show again.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 12, 2021, 02:37:42 PM
Is he going to try and paint Whitehaven as "woke" now? Isn't it a working-class industrial town in Northern England? He's going to have to contort himself into some position to claim that.
Speaking from a fair bit of first-hand experience of the place, I think trying to say Whitehaven is 'woke' might cause some sort of fracture in reality that could mean the end of everything.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 12, 2021, 02:43:00 PM
If this is true, it explains a lot : https://twitter.com/stabiloFFC/status/1414360765721681921
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 03:00:06 PM
If this is true, it explains a lot : https://twitter.com/stabiloFFC/status/1414360765721681921

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Seen that racist tweet by failed comedian Andrew Lawrence despite him blocking me. Worth pointing out that we went to the same very mixed-race school in south west London and that Andrew once shat himself in class and cried for two hours while everyone laughed at him.



Can we at least try to copy in stuff like that tweet that got Lawrence to delete his account? That was blatantly going to be removed.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 12, 2021, 03:13:04 PM
I went to Whitehaven once and the local pizza shop did a pizza with baked beans on it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thr0b on July 12, 2021, 03:16:47 PM
I went to Whitehaven once and the local pizza shop did a pizza with baked beans on it.

Apparently a common thing.

Local pizza place in Wrexham didn't offer that as an option, but when requested they said they'd do it if we paid an extra quid as they'd buy a can from the corner shop next door.

Wasn't for me.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JamesTC on July 12, 2021, 03:24:16 PM
I tried a baked beans pizza once. Most of the places round my way do it. It isn't very nice. It went everywhere.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 12, 2021, 03:27:45 PM
I tried a haggis pizza once while watching Shark Attack 3: Megalodon. An overwhelmingy unpleasant experience.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on July 12, 2021, 03:38:57 PM
Hopefully he can get deradicalised
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: holyzombiejesus on July 12, 2021, 03:39:23 PM
For reference...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqWRWEAMPw0A?format=jpg&name=large) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqZOWQAA_a-X?format=jpg&name=large) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqbFXEAMDu79?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 03:53:34 PM
Thanks!

"Equality, diversity, shit penalties"

God he's a hack.

Is he going to cry about so-called "cancel culture", after he's deleted his own account?[1] Of course he fucking is.
 1. "Bottlers"
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Josef K on July 12, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
Clicked through every show on the cunt's tour page and either the page can't be found or they're no longer on sale.

Wonder if he's even too toxic for Comedy Unleashed now
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 12, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
He's been dropped by his management. Haha.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6447/andrew-lawrence-football-tweets/ (https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6447/andrew-lawrence-football-tweets/)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 12, 2021, 04:20:18 PM
I went to Whitehaven once and the local pizza shop did a pizza with baked beans on it.
I'm always a bit surprised when someone says they've been there, and have to stop myself given an automatic response of "why?". I mean, I have the excuse of my parents living there, but I struggle to think why anybody else would bother.

Presumably Lawrence himself was just desperate for any possible gigs - maybe the recent Tory turn up there encouraged him to think he might find his "people" too. What a shame he pissed on his own chips.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: holyzombiejesus on July 12, 2021, 04:23:26 PM
Feel really down today and not even about the result last night. As much as I hate empty patriotism, I believed that the English football team's progress in the Euros would possibly change minds or at least get wankers to appreciate the positives of our multi-cultural country. I thought that possibly the decrease in the booing of the team taking the knee might mean that people had begun to accept it, perhaps even accept the reasons behind it. But no, all that was happening was a few more coins were added to the bounty, the pressure increased until there were scapegoats, and poisonous witless dickheads like this could unleash their 'payback'.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: drummersaredeaf on July 12, 2021, 04:35:43 PM
Don't back doon, double doon:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CROQrcSFchx/
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 12, 2021, 04:40:20 PM
Chat shit get banged cancelled
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 12, 2021, 04:41:57 PM
I'm always a bit surprised when someone says they've been there, and have to stop myself given an automatic response of "why?". I mean, I have the excuse of my parents living there, but I struggle to think why anybody else would bother.

Presumably Lawrence himself was just desperate for any possible gigs - maybe the recent Tory turn up there encouraged him to think he might find his "people" too. What a shame he pissed on his own chips.

I also only went there because your parents did
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 12, 2021, 04:42:47 PM
Don't back doon, double doon:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CROQrcSFchx/

Not on insta what is it
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on July 12, 2021, 04:43:39 PM
Not on insta what is it

A load of witless satire written and performed by a racist cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 12, 2021, 04:48:03 PM
Sweet redownloading insta now
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 12, 2021, 04:49:16 PM
I'm always a bit surprised when someone says they've been there, and have to stop myself given an automatic response of "why?". I mean, I have the excuse of my parents living there, but I struggle to think why anybody else would bother.

Presumably Lawrence himself was just desperate for any possible gigs - maybe the recent Tory turn up there encouraged him to think he might find his "people" too. What a shame he pissed on his own chips.

I had a friend who worked at Sellafield - we went up to visit and generally hang out around the Lake District. Whitehaven itself didn't seem that bad - there was a nice harbour and a few nice parks - but I can see I'd have hated it if I'd grown up there, far from the bright lights of Kendal.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 04:56:10 PM
He's been dropped by his management. Haha.

https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6447/andrew-lawrence-football-tweets/ (https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6447/andrew-lawrence-football-tweets/)

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Robin Ince tweeted: "I know some will cry 'cancelled', but I think it is impressive to see @cheshamcomedy cancelling a performer who stirred up racism after last night's game." He added: "(the performer is one of those free speech warriors who blocks you first, then badmouths you so you can't reply).

"He was a very interesting act, lots of TV work and all that too, but the bitterness seemed to have gushed in. Trouble is, it turned out he was like plenty of other people. An interesting comedian whose dark, onstage bitterness was just a prelude to full blossoming hate.

Great analysis from Robin Ince, he's a good bloke.

It is a particularly fucking witless time to do racist comedy, and yeah, as zombiejesus says, all these booing cunts should be eating their words and appreciating what that football team actually achieved.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Rainbow Moses on July 12, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
For reference...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqWRWEAMPw0A?format=jpg&name=large) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqZOWQAA_a-X?format=jpg&name=large) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6GCqbFXEAMDu79?format=jpg&name=large)

Ah yes, it's all that equality and diversity that made England shit at penalties. Not like England to lose penalty shootouts.

At least one thing Southgate can take from this is that people have temporarily forgotten that Euro 96 ever happened.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on July 12, 2021, 05:04:11 PM
Presumably Lawrence himself was just desperate for any possible gigs - maybe the recent Tory turn up there encouraged him to think he might find his "people" too. What a shame he pissed on his own chips.

Yeah. Highly suspect he knows he can’t make much headway based on his act alone so a lot of this was an angle to get a rep as Britain’s foremost outspoken comedian, getting banned by Twitter, Insta etc. to make a name with the “he tells it like it is and the snowflakes can’t handle it” crowd.

But he’s completely misjudged the general consensus. Before it got removed there were a lot of replies from his fans saying they normally like his stuff (fuck knows why) but this was too far.

Dimwitted racist says racist sludge from behind a gossamer-thin veil of irony and gets correctly shut down.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: wrec on July 12, 2021, 05:06:41 PM
Seems like a spectacularly misjudged time to go full racist as a career move, and not sure if the usual "I got cancelled for having the wrong opinion 😢" route is going to be available for him
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chveik on July 12, 2021, 05:06:56 PM
I went to Whitehaven once and the local pizza shop did a pizza with baked beans on it.

PIZZA BEAN

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sRuuOffv3zU/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 12, 2021, 05:08:21 PM
Yeah. Highly suspect he knows he can’t make much headway based on his act alone so a lot of this was an angle to get a rep as Britain’s foremost outspoken comedian, getting banned by Twitter, Insta etc. to make a name with the “he tells it like it is and the snowflakes can’t handle it” crowd.

But he’s completely misjudged the general consensus. Before it got removed there were a lot of replies from his fans saying they normally like his stuff (fuck knows why) but this was too far.

Dimwitted racist says racist sludge from behind a gossamer-thin veil of irony and gets correctly shut down.
It's something you see a lot with these 'alt-right' types, be it in comedy or other media platforms - the need to keep pushing things further and further* until eventually even their core audience goes "woah, too much" and move on to the next contender.

*I'm assuming this is in part to stay relevant/ahead of the rest, but perhaps also a kind of thrill at the number of responses, both positive and negative.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 12, 2021, 05:08:26 PM
Shame wetherspoons don't do stand up nights
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: drummersaredeaf on July 12, 2021, 05:08:30 PM
I don't know about anything gossamer thin you know
That insta video I posted is worse than his tweets in many ways. Posing as a professor of assorted things such as race baiting and saying the penalties were missed because there were too many oppressive white faces in the crowd and the keeper didn't kneel. Typical of his usual output where he's fabricating a position that isn't even close to existing.

Geezer's a cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Rainbow Moses on July 12, 2021, 05:11:39 PM
If this is true, it explains a lot : https://twitter.com/stabiloFFC/status/1414360765721681921

Quote
Seen that racist tweet by failed comedian Andrew Lawrence despite him blocking me. Worth pointing out that we went to the same very mixed-race school in south west London and that Andrew once shat himself in class and cried for two hours while everyone laughed at him.

God, don't make me feel sympathy for the cunt. Wouldn't be surprised if the bitterness came from being bullied at school.

And if this stabiloFFC guy was one of the kids sticking the knife in then he can fuck off and all.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Thursday on July 12, 2021, 05:11:54 PM
Putting Baked Beans on a Pizza is a very good reason to hate The English.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 05:12:28 PM
Seems like a spectacularly misjudged time to go full racist as a career move, and not sure if the usual "I got cancelled for having the wrong opinion 😢" route is going to be available for him

I'd imagine those feckless cunts from Triggernometry will have him on to cry about the "woke left" anyway.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on July 12, 2021, 05:19:07 PM
I wonder how well his tour was actually doing. Doing alright (not great) on twitter/youtube/tiktok isn't something that necessarily translates into any kind of ticket sales. If little or none of the online money was going to his management and his ticket sales were in the toilet what incentive would there be for them to stick with him.


He's always seemed like he wouldn't be able to maintain the grift, his contempt for absolutely everyone (especially his current audience) is far too high. Figured he could post whatever and his cabal of cunts would lap it up at the very least.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 12, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
The "Rashford should have spent less time feeding kids and more time practising penalties" thing is such a basic level joke that every racist cunt on Twitter thought of it. And it doesn't even work because up until last night he was a stone cold penalty machine
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on July 12, 2021, 05:53:23 PM
I wonder how well his tour was actually doing. Doing alright (not great) on twitter/youtube/tiktok isn't something that necessarily translates into any kind of ticket sales. If little or none of the online money was going to his management and his ticket sales were in the toilet what incentive would there be for them to stick with him.


He's always seemed like he wouldn't be able to maintain the grift, his contempt for absolutely everyone (especially his current audience) is far too high. Figured he could post whatever and his cabal of cunts would lap it up at the very least.

He always drew fairly well at the Edinburgh Fringe, even after he started doing anti immigration material he was in a 300 seat room full of middle aged J. Clarkson types, though who knows how that translates to a club tour.

A shame, I remember the first time I saw him- this was in the days when he still had hope of being a BBC1 featured comedian- I really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 12, 2021, 05:57:38 PM
This doesn't in the slightest let him off for being a cunt, but like Lawrence Fox and Graham Linehan, he seems to have legitmately gone a bit mad.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 12, 2021, 05:57:55 PM


God, don't make me feel sympathy for the cunt. Wouldn't be surprised if the bitterness came from being bullied at school.

And if this stabiloFFC guy was one of the kids sticking the knife in then he can fuck off and all.

Also - what’s a “mixed-race school”? Isn’t that just… a school?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Josef K on July 12, 2021, 05:59:43 PM
My favourite thing about his 'characters' is the names he gives them - Keith Cuntabout (working class geeza), Sebastian Fat-salary (BBC Director), Terry Slimebag (sleazy showbiz manager), Johnny Smugface (smug BBC presenter).

It's like he's thought 'hmm, think these characters might go over my audience's heads, I'll name them with the subtlety of a Star Wars prequel villain and have them repeat the name at the start of every video
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Josef K on July 12, 2021, 06:00:58 PM
Also - what’s a “mixed-race school”? Isn’t that just… a school?

It's a race school that teaches both boys and girls
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 12, 2021, 06:01:18 PM


God, don't make me feel sympathy for the cunt. Wouldn't be surprised if the bitterness came from being bullied at school.

And if this stabiloFFC guy was one of the kids sticking the knife in then he can fuck off and all.
I think his current fanbase are exactly the kind of bully cunts that would have been taking the piss out of him for soiling his kecks in class.
Perhaps his whole schtick is just a way to finally gain acceptance from the type of wankers who traumatised him when he was young. Now he's an anti-immigrant (son of an immigrant) bully (bullied at school) and a hero to those type of dickheads.
He'd have probably been one of those snide obnoxious little pricks who always seem to hang around with the 'hard lads' at school if he hadn't shat his fucking pants.
StabiloFFC is sticking in the knife, but he was probably one of the few who felt sorry for him when it happened and now feels cheated.

That being said, didn't happen did it ? Andrew lawrence is just racism's Glinner. He knows he's wrong. He's knows he's fucked himself, but he can't back down.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 12, 2021, 06:03:33 PM
This doesn't in the slightest let him off for being a cunt, but like Lawrence Fox and Graham Linehan, he seems to have legitmately gone a bit mad.

No he hasn’t. None of them have. They’re just cunts. And no offence but yes you are letting him off. It’s a cop-out.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 12, 2021, 06:07:07 PM
The "Rashford should have spent less time feeding kids and more time practising penalties" thing is such a basic level joke that every racist cunt on Twitter thought of it. And it doesn't even work because up until last night he was a stone cold penalty machine
It doesn’t even make sense. It’s not like he was missing United training to go and personally deliver food to some kids.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on July 12, 2021, 06:28:23 PM
This doesn't in the slightest let him off for being a cunt, but like Lawrence Fox and Graham Linehan, he seems to have legitmately gone a bit mad.

Michael Legge speculated about that a few years back, after an in real life run in with him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on July 12, 2021, 06:33:21 PM
Fox probably briefly went a bit mad after his drastically more successful wife divorced him and found himself very handsomely rewarded for it with a ton of attention. He's now just quite an effective shameless grifter cunt.

Glinner has always been mad and it was just a matter of time of him completely falling apart. Hard to feel sympathy for someone being such a cunt but there's certainly nothing very rewarding about it all for him.

Lawrence is just a really bitter cunt who (rightfully) figured he could make some money playing into the grift. The one thing about his whole shitty grift is though, regardless of it all being quite unfunny, he's definitely trying very hard to make it work. Relentlessly uploading new content and trying to create characters and shit, but it's gotta be impossible to develop anything when your fanbase is so wildly undiscerning.
Fox, and most these guys, usually are quite toothless and seemingly content with looking like absolute morons; as shite as the stuff of his I've seen has been, I get the impression Lawrence isn't able to help himself from trying to be the one who tests the limits of the room, his ego isn't able to let him, and that's got no long term viability cos it'll inevitably and repeatedly lead to situations like this.



This isn't gonna kill him, he might even get a bit of a bump from it, but it won't last and he'll fuck up again. A born loser if ever there was one.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 12, 2021, 06:36:04 PM
It doesn’t even make sense. It’s not like he was missing United training to go and personally deliver food to some kids.
There's elements in the United support that use his campaigning as a stick to beat him with - "should be concentrating on his game... it's a distraction... he's a footballer, not a politician", that kind of stuff - the truth is more that he's struggled with fitness for about 18 months now since picking up a back injury in a cup game vs Wolves, but still.

They'd also probably fall under the demographic that Lawrence would see as a potential audience.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 12, 2021, 07:46:56 PM
My favourite thing about his 'characters' is the names he gives them - Keith Cuntabout (working class geeza), Sebastian Fat-salary (BBC Director), Terry Slimebag (sleazy showbiz manager), Johnny Smugface (smug BBC presenter).


Not to forget Professor Gideon Micropenis, the woke academic.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 12, 2021, 07:48:02 PM
There's elements in the United support that use his campaigning as a stick to beat him with - "should be concentrating on his game... it's a distraction... he's a footballer, not a politician", that kind of stuff - the truth is more that he's struggled with fitness for about 18 months now since picking up a back injury in a cup game vs Wolves, but still.

They'd also probably fall under the demographic that Lawrence would see as a potential audience.
I wonder how they felt about Fergie's political beliefs.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 12, 2021, 07:48:21 PM
My favourite thing about his 'characters' is the names he gives them - Keith Cuntabout (working class geeza), Sebastian Fat-salary (BBC Director), Terry Slimebag (sleazy showbiz manager), Johnny Smugface (smug BBC presenter).

It's like he's thought 'hmm, think these characters might go over my audience's heads, I'll name them with the subtlety of a Star Wars prequel villain and have them repeat the name at the start of every video

In that case, now he's fucked his career, if he learns some cartoonistry skills Andy could be Britain's answer to Ben Garrisson?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Culture Bunker on July 12, 2021, 07:56:10 PM
I wonder how they felt about Fergie's political beliefs.
Eh, Fergie was hypocritical to say the least in terms of his politics but he also won numerous trophies. If Rashford had scored that sitter in the Europa final, they'd maybe be more inclined to zip it, but his recent form has enabled plenty of have it in for him.

Kind of makes me wonder if Andrew Lawrence had benefited from a stroke of good fortune years back and enjoyed a high profile career, whether his political opinions would be very different or whether perceived injustices have triggered him down this path (or whether it's pure grift).
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 12, 2021, 08:03:08 PM
https://www.comedy.co.uk/people/news/6447/andrew-lawrence-football-tweets/

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Lawrence previously attracted condemnation for his social media posts seven years ago, in which he wrote of the "unmitigated disaster of immigration"

That was seven years ago, so to be fair he has been consistent in his anti-wokeness for a fair while now.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 12, 2021, 08:14:15 PM
actually because this football racism is such a top story, twitter have been actively culling accounts so they might have legitimately booted this nasty unfunny cunt off

Not accountable elsewhere though (ok his shows got pulled). But should be jail time, imho, not just locked out of Twitter.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 08:16:41 PM
Ugh, no. No no no.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 12, 2021, 08:18:15 PM
Ugh, no. No no no.

No jail time for racism?

I can see that from the point of view that jail does not rehabilitate.

Community service for 10 years then.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 08:19:16 PM
No jail time for jokes. We're not going back to the days of Lenny Bruce, thanks.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 12, 2021, 08:24:05 PM
No jail time for jokes. We're not going back to the days of Lenny Bruce, thanks.

a) no jokes

b) racism

c) hyperbole

d) jokes on you
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 12, 2021, 08:44:26 PM
Oh, okay.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 12, 2021, 08:53:20 PM
There's some really funny comments on Twitter about him tonight.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Andrew%20Lawrence%22&src=trend_click&pt=1414590484010389506&vertical=trends
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 12, 2021, 09:27:53 PM
Oh, okay.

Knew you’d understand ;)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Chollis on July 12, 2021, 09:32:29 PM
Yeah. Highly suspect he knows he can’t make much headway based on his act alone so a lot of this was an angle to get a rep as Britain’s foremost outspoken comedian, getting banned by Twitter, Insta etc. to make a name with the “he tells it like it is and the snowflakes can’t handle it” crowd.

But he’s completely misjudged the general consensus. Before it got removed there were a lot of replies from his fans saying they normally like his stuff (fuck knows why) but this was too far.

yeah, it's great. he was really in quite a good position, he'd found his niche and was getting a lot more popular in recent months, if he could just continue to gently coax those numbers up and up. but no, he's gone that little bit too far Clive and completely torpedoed any chance of success. LOVE IT
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 12, 2021, 09:34:49 PM
a) no jokes

b) racism

c) hyperbole

d) jokes on you

Eh?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 12, 2021, 09:38:46 PM
yeah, it's great. he was really in quite a good position, he'd found his niche and was getting a lot more popular in recent months, if he could just continue to gently coax those numbers up and up. but no, he's gone that little bit too far Clive and completely torpedoed any chance of success. LOVE IT

Doing 'a Milo'?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chveik on July 12, 2021, 09:39:18 PM
sounds like self-sabotage to me
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 12, 2021, 10:01:16 PM
No jail time for racism?

I can see that from the point of view that jail does not rehabilitate.

Community service for 10 years then.

We need to reserve jail time for the really serious crimes, like rape or murder or, if you’re Kankurette, “breathing”
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 12, 2021, 10:02:26 PM
We need to reserve jail time for the really serious crimes, like rape or murder or, if you’re Kankurette, “breathing”
I'm going to phone the police now. I just breathed three times.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 12, 2021, 11:18:00 PM
Also - what’s a “mixed-race school”? Isn’t that just… a school?

Depends when and where you grew up, my secondary school in the late eighties / early nineties in Surrey had only one black pupil when I was there, which is why their production of To Kill A Mockingbird was deeply, deeply offensive.*





*Not a joke, search "To Kill A Mockingbird" and "Woodhatch School" if you want to see it on youtube.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chveik on July 12, 2021, 11:19:33 PM
were you in blackface smbh?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on July 13, 2021, 01:48:36 AM
Eh, Fergie was hypocritical to say the least in terms of his politics but he also won numerous trophies. If Rashford had scored that sitter in the Europa final, they'd maybe be more inclined to zip it, but his recent form has enabled plenty of have it in for him.

Kind of makes me wonder if Andrew Lawrence had benefited from a stroke of good fortune years back and enjoyed a high profile career, whether his political opinions would be very different or whether perceived injustices have triggered him down this path (or whether it's pure grift).

I remember watching him on the last day of the 2014 Edinburgh Fringe, said this here at the time:

‘He claimed he was quitting stand up because the UK scene is "toxic and corrupt". It was quite a bleak show, with him ranting that he could never be a mainstream success no matter how talented he is as he isn't a Cambridge Footlights type of comic (presumably public school & painfully middle class) and those are the ones the industry pushes to success. He said he had wasted his life chasing an unachievable dream, and he lives in a shithole London neighbourhood where there are shootings on his street etc as a result.

Of course I have no idea how much of it was real and how much was just part of the show, but there weren't many jokes in his set!’
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on July 13, 2021, 02:09:47 AM
Kind of makes me wonder if Andrew Lawrence had benefited from a stroke of good fortune years back and enjoyed a high profile career, whether his political opinions would be very different or whether perceived injustices have triggered him down this path (or whether it's pure grift).
The issue is he had a stroke of good fortune right at the start of his career. Had he been toiling about for a few years it could've led to a sustainable career as he'd have the experience to make his weirder stuff work with different crowds but instead he had to tried and become a generic hack when that initial wave dried up a few years in and he was stuck as an established declining act rather than anything remotely exciting or even intriguing.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone talking about Andrew Lawrence cite his best output as being anything beyond the Milk Run BBC stuff or standup shows at the time.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bronzy on July 13, 2021, 04:00:36 AM
These days, if you say black people can’t take penalties, you get arrested and thrown in jail.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 13, 2021, 07:03:36 AM
Eh?

It was out and out racism, not even a joke.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 13, 2021, 07:04:34 AM
We need to reserve jail time for the really serious crimes, like rape or murder or, if you’re Kankurette, “breathing”

Prick off, dick pig
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on July 13, 2021, 10:30:50 AM
were you in blackface smbh?

Thankfully not, I was the opposing lawyer (and I'm really terrible in it, our drama teacher gave us no advice on how to get in to character at all!), but a friend played Tom Robinson and the blackface make up is really awful.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ajsmith2 on July 13, 2021, 10:56:57 AM
Unfortunately 'I now lack the arsedness/imagination to make even the most perfunctory attempt to couch my shitey politics in a comedic structure' is received with 'funny how the comedians are now the real politicians and the politicians are now the comedians eh?' style accolades from his fanbase.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 13, 2021, 11:00:07 AM
ELLO IM KEEF CUNTABOUT AND IM A FUCKIN CUNT

Edit love the impression at the end of this
https://twitter.com/TheIDSmiths/status/1414901804270239745?s=19

Andrew! You're supposed to structure it as a joke! Then it's got plausible deniability! That was just unambiguous racism!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 13, 2021, 02:10:47 PM
I remember watching him on the last day of the 2014 Edinburgh Fringe, said this here at the time:

‘He claimed he was quitting stand up because the UK scene is "toxic and corrupt". It was quite a bleak show, with him ranting that he could never be a mainstream success no matter how talented he is as he isn't a Cambridge Footlights type of comic (presumably public school & painfully middle class) and those are the ones the industry pushes to success. He said he had wasted his life chasing an unachievable dream, and he lives in a shithole London neighbourhood where there are shootings on his street etc as a result.

Of course I have no idea how much of it was real and how much was just part of the show, but there weren't many jokes in his set!’

See...I could see how you could take that theme and turn it into something actually funny, the unachievableness of dreams, being out of place etc. Or you could take those feelings, decide it's because the world is no longer designed for average middle class straight white male comedians, and swing the other way into "edginess".
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Antiseptic Poetry on July 13, 2021, 02:25:13 PM
Jim Davidson jumping in.

https://youtu.be/gywWAVnn0xI
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Alberon on July 13, 2021, 02:33:15 PM
Cunts of a feather, eh?

Can’t be bothered to watch Davidson’s video. Did he do it in his Chalky voice?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: SteveDave on July 13, 2021, 03:11:36 PM

*Not a joke, search "To Kill A Mockingbird" and "Woodhatch School" if you want to see it on youtube.

Lawks a-mercy!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 13, 2021, 03:23:16 PM
Some real charmers commenting below Jim's video, including Ray Purchase who likens the event to a skit in Family Guy where Brian was "cancelled".

Davidson laying into Sage and claiming "there is a lot we aren't being told" around 3m in.



Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Egyptian Feast on July 13, 2021, 04:45:38 PM
The Concorde Club have been receiving some particularly nasty threats (https://twitter.com/CarolMaps/status/1414958608199168007?s=19) since they cancelled Lawrence's booking. The email received claims staff will be "assaulted randomly, most likely a hammer in the back of the head as they leave at night" amongst other horrors.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on July 13, 2021, 04:54:41 PM
That’s just Lawrence’s latest character Charlie “Hammers” Nailz dishing out the lols.

But no that is fucking abhorrent and terrifying and I hope the police can trace it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 13, 2021, 04:57:02 PM
Obviously you can't blame Lawrence for that, but it is exactly the sort of audience he's been deliberately trying to cultivate and pander to.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 13, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
Fucking terrifying. Hope they report any other threats they get/got as well. Solidarity with the Concord Club.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 13, 2021, 05:10:03 PM
Stating the obvious but if you have Facebook you can like them here: https://www.facebook.com/TheConcordeClub
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 13, 2021, 05:16:07 PM
I know this is probably just some random cunt who feels like being a cunt, but what are they hoping to achieve with this? Is the NF still a thing? The detailed campaign strategy makes me wonder.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 13, 2021, 05:25:24 PM
but a friend played Tom Robinson

Did he sing '2-4-6-8 Motorway' and 'Glad to be Gay'?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 13, 2021, 05:30:46 PM
Obviously you can't blame Lawrence for that, but it is exactly the sort of audience he's been deliberately trying to cultivate and pander to.

Yes you can.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 13, 2021, 05:33:17 PM
Yes you can.

yeah deffo. Said his gigs would basically be white power rallies.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 13, 2021, 05:44:20 PM
Yes you can.

Wouldn’t have happened if cunt was in jail

;))))
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 13, 2021, 05:44:55 PM
Yes you can.
Especially if he wrote it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: king_tubby on July 13, 2021, 05:47:00 PM
https://twitter.com/Peter_Henley/status/1414968865042403334

Text of threatening email sent to one of the venues that cancelled.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 13, 2021, 05:50:50 PM
'Your health and safety record will be challenged constantly' made me laugh, I will say.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 13, 2021, 05:51:59 PM
https://twitter.com/Peter_Henley/status/1414968865042403334

Text of threatening email sent to one of the venues that cancelled.

Starts with a bang, before petering out with the

Goodbye,
Gordon

Gordon of course being the nom de plume of a certain Andrew Lawrence
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 13, 2021, 05:54:06 PM
Yes you can.

No, you can't. If he'd used his social networking clout to inspire people to make threats like that, he'd have some responsibility, but he's not to blame for random, violent manaics staging hate campaigns against comedy clubs.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 13, 2021, 05:54:35 PM
https://twitter.com/Peter_Henley/status/1414968865042403334

Text of threatening email sent to one of the venues that cancelled.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6L6rl-WYAMgz4N?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 13, 2021, 05:56:45 PM
They took the link to it down on their clients index but his page is still up.

http://www.rbmcomedy.com/rbm/client.php?section_id=85

And hes barely updated his website since he really started to go off the rails in 2014

Where's his mates telling him to just pack it in? His mum? Thats a good looking CV and a high profile UK comedy agency and hes fucking tanked the lot.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Goldentony on July 13, 2021, 06:04:24 PM
Where's his mates

here's your first mistake with this
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 13, 2021, 06:05:22 PM
They took the link to it down on their clients index but his page is still up.

http://www.rbmcomedy.com/rbm/client.php?section_id=85

Quote
For 2018's Fringe, Andrew appeared as never before! His new show Clean was a wholesome affair, fun for all the family and packed with jokes.

"Andrew Lawrence, star of Live at The Apollo and Michael McIntyre’s Roadshow and UK comedy’s foremost contrarian takes a break from all the controversy in this new show. No politics. No religion. No smut. No swearing. Just great jokes and good clean fun."

It says he 'appeared as never before' - and never again, it would now appear.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 13, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
They took the link to it down on their clients index but his page is still up.

http://www.rbmcomedy.com/rbm/client.php?section_id=85

And hes barely updated his website since he really started to go off the rails in 2014

Where's his mates telling him to just pack it in? His mum? Thats a good looking CV and a high profile UK comedy agency and hes fucking tanked the lot.

Wasn't there some thing about him leaving his wife for a much younger woman and then it all falling apart? Have Googled but somewhat hampered by the fact that there's a former child star with the same name.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BritishHobo on July 13, 2021, 06:21:00 PM
I know it's most likely an empty threat written by a fevered internet user who wouldn't have bothered going to a comedy club anyway, but the logic is baffling. I'm sure if faeces did suddenly start being reported as appearing in the food of this previously-safe venue, they would probably just point to the e-mail that says "we'll start saying there's poo in your food".
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 13, 2021, 06:28:27 PM
He looks like some character from a horror film, doesn't he?

(https://i.ibb.co/MPVyC4N/andrewlawrence.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 13, 2021, 06:56:14 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6L6rl-WYAMgz4N?format=jpg&name=large)

Is it wrong that “Goodbye, Gordon” really made me laugh

And the way it’s all centred like a wedding invitation or something
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: monkfromhavana on July 13, 2021, 07:08:20 PM
Is it wrong that “Goodbye, Gordon” really made me laugh

And the way it’s all centred like a wedding invitation or something

More like a menu for me, I expected to see a price after every section.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: franticplanet on July 13, 2021, 07:11:13 PM
That "Goodbye, Gordon" will put the shits up anyone who's seen Session 9.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Earnest Sexpot on July 13, 2021, 11:25:45 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6L6rl-WYAMgz4N?format=jpg&name=large)

I'm not making any legitimate allegations, but after seeing his stuff pop up on trending over the past year, and doing a bit of a dive into his stuff in the wake of his much-deserved fall from grace, I think there's a non-0% chance he could have wrote this himself, it mirrors patterns in his delivery and has a few shades of this rant beginning at 1:45 here:

https://youtu.be/xyMSn85etu4

Genuinely despise the man, watching his videos feels like being locked in a room with a serial killer, dead eyes, rage flowing with laser focus over incoherent statements, doesn't even have the decency to work in any jokes. It's been said many times in this thread, but he's got the weakest 'satire excuse' veneer I've ever seen, the degree to which his characters deviate from his own views is that he uses an accent when playing them, that's it, the inevitable boiling over into pure rage in each of his vids is the cherry on the whole horrible experience
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mobius on July 13, 2021, 11:32:52 PM
I liked him in Ideal when his only dialogue was "Ignore me!" - good advice from the man himself.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 13, 2021, 11:33:58 PM
He does give off fucking horrid vibes. Just the worst of the worst. But then to be fair he's just an angry young white lad who has successfully been duped into having that anger misdirected at the same old fucking targets. Lacking any sort of empathy or critical thinking.

I suppose he is about half the population.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 13, 2021, 11:39:12 PM
I'm not making any legitimate allegations, but after seeing his stuff pop up on trending over the past year, and doing a bit of a dive into his stuff in the wake of his much-deserved fall from grace, I think there's a non-0% chance he could have wrote this himself, it mirrors patterns in his delivery and has a few shades of this rant beginning at 1:45 here:

https://youtu.be/xyMSn85etu4

Genuinely despise the man, watching his videos feels like being locked in a room with a serial killer, dead eyes, rage flowing with laser focus over incoherent statements, doesn't even have the decency to work in any jokes. It's been said many times in this thread, but he's got the weakest 'satire excuse' veneer I've ever seen, the degree to which his characters deviate from his own views is that he uses an accent when playing them, that's it, the inevitable boiling over into pure rage in each of his vids is the cherry on the whole horrible experience

Is that his voice or is that what he thinks working-class men sound like? Andy Parsons
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 13, 2021, 11:41:50 PM
I agree it mirrors his relentless and slightly disconnected patter. I mean still reckon he may have legitmately gone right off the deep end. he should be in asylum before he hurts someone
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: imitationleather on July 13, 2021, 11:45:19 PM
It's hard to imagine the kind of person where it's Andrew Lawrence having a gig cancelled that crosses the red line for them and gets them sending out death threats.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Joe Oakes on July 13, 2021, 11:46:39 PM
I agree it mirrors his relentless and slightly disconnected patter. I mean still reckon he may have legitmately gone right off the deep end. he should be in asylum before he hurts someone

Bloodly asylum-seekers.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Earnest Sexpot on July 13, 2021, 11:51:18 PM
Is that his voice or is that what he thinks working-class men sound like? Andy Parsons

It's his working-class voice, he has a few others, none of them shed that 'get me out of this room' sensation though

Imagine being a hardcore right-winger and having to support this guy despite him having the worst vibes of any human being on earth, surely on a human level you've got to register that he comes across as a dead-eyed strangler and decide there are other hills to die on
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 14, 2021, 12:00:47 AM
Blimey, and I thought the left were supposed to hate the white working-class.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Thursday on July 14, 2021, 12:11:47 AM
Yeah honestly, my first thought was "did he write it himself?" Not saying he did, but it wouldn't be at all surprising.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wacky Homemade Badges on July 14, 2021, 12:21:35 AM
Wasn't there some thing about him leaving his wife for a much younger woman and then it all falling apart? Have Googled but somewhat hampered by the fact that there's a former child star with the same name.

Not wife but long term girlfriend the same sort of age as him. She broke up with him, he rebounded with 18 year old iirc.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 14, 2021, 12:45:27 AM
I don't think even this will finish Andrew Lawrence; there's clearly still a market for racist comedy, and plenty of ways of taking money directly from fans now.

The Spectator and/or Spiked will probably have some defense of the useless prick up before long.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 14, 2021, 01:04:57 AM
The employment of the gerund in the opening line, "I am contacting you about your becoming cowardly scum..." shows an impressive command of grammar that's unusual in a threatening message.

That obviously doesn't mean the author is Andrew Lawrence, educated at exclusive Tiffin Grammar and St Andrew's University. Maybe he just has very well-educated fans.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 14, 2021, 01:12:53 AM
This doesn't in the slightest let him off for being a cunt, but like Lawrence Fox and Graham Linehan, he seems to have legitmately gone a bit mad.

I sort of thought that as well, and here’s why: I forget who (Doc Brown?) talked with Rich about Lawrence on RHLSTP, but it really humanized him to me.

Something about being a comedian and spending hours driving around from venue to venue on your own, and starting to have discussions (that become arguments) with yourself, and not really believing what you’re arguing because you’re on your own and just doing it because you’ve gone a bit mad and you’re bored.

…but as social media advances, the border erodes between “something you might half dream up and not really mean as you drive up the M6 for 5 hours” vs “something you tweet out to thousands and thousands of people in a way that anyone can see” but shorn of context or delivery which might make it look worse, so maybe he’s an ok guy but a bit of a pillock who doesn’t have his irony meter set correctly. Maybe he’s just a twat, whatever, I’ve thought nothing about him before or since because he’s a fringe comedian on the circuit.

Those tweets are entirely indefensible though - he’s not being an ironic comedian, he’s “being” a cunt. Be a cunt on Twitter and you get banned and lose commercial opportunities. Frankly that’s a good thing - fuck him, and anyone who likes him.

I’m delighted his career is going down the tubes, and I don’t think he has the luxury of saying “oh I’ve gone a bit mad”, I just think he’s a prick.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 14, 2021, 01:13:08 AM
I don't think even this will finish Andrew Lawrence; there's clearly still a market for racist comedy, and plenty of ways of taking money directly from fans now.

The Spectator and/or Spiked will probably have some defense of the useless prick up before long.
Nah, he's done. The pricks agreeing with him and telling him he's fucking hilarious aren't gonna stick with him. They don't really like him, they just agree with him. He's no use to them now he's got no proper platform. Same thing happened with Milo.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 14, 2021, 01:16:34 AM
Here's a bit from his 2017 book, A Glossary of PC Tossery:

Quote from: Satire's Andrew Lawrence
Black people:
Why are you categorising? They are not 'Black' people. They are just people. Ordinary people just trying to live their lives, just trying to get through each day. Just like you and me, trying to cope with everything the world throws at them.
We are all the same. We are all one. One love. One life. One world. They are not 'Black' people, they are HUMAN BEINGS. They just want to be treated like everybody else, and once they are, maybe they'll stop stealing.

Four years ago, and no different to the unnuanced stuff he's doing now.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 14, 2021, 01:26:35 AM
You've basically seen this already, but here's the uncensored version, with the Concorde Club's reaction, and a suggestion by the poster that you should follow the Concorde Club to show support:

https://twitter.com/CarolMaps/status/1414958608199168007

Gordon is a moron.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 14, 2021, 01:30:52 AM
a suggestion by the poster that you should follow the Concorde Club to show support
Fuck that. There's human faeces in their food.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JCR on July 14, 2021, 04:21:43 AM
Not wife but long term girlfriend the same sort of age as him. She broke up with him, he rebounded with 18 year old iirc.

Yeah, that was in the 2014 show, his girlfriend and management both dumped him on the same week, the latter because they thought he had gone as far as he was ever going to. (Though presumably he was already rubbing people the wrong way by that point, that was after he filmed material for the Comedy Central Alternative Comedy Experience series that wasn’t used.)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 14, 2021, 06:07:35 AM
He seems to have stopped uoloading videos to YouTube channel after making nearly daily new offerings for some time.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 14, 2021, 07:08:48 AM
The employment of the gerund in the opening line, "I am contacting you about your becoming cowardly scum..." shows an impressive command of grammar that's unusual in a threatening message.

That obviously doesn't mean the author is Andrew Lawrence, educated at exclusive Tiffin Grammar and St Andrew's University. Maybe he just has very well-educated fans.

Excellent point, well spotted.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 14, 2021, 07:10:00 AM
It's hard to imagine the kind of person where it's Andrew Lawrence having a gig cancelled that crosses the red line for them and gets them sending out death threats.

Andrew Lawrence may do this, non?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 14, 2021, 07:11:07 AM
Yeah honestly, my first thought was "did he write it himself?" Not saying he did, but it wouldn't be at all surprising.

I wouldnt be surprised if he had a character called Gordon
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 14, 2021, 07:50:40 AM
Here's a bit from his 2017 book, A Glossary of PC Tossery:

Four years ago, and no different to the unnuanced stuff he's doing now.

Who published that?

(I want them cancelled)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 14, 2021, 08:28:47 AM
You've basically seen this already, but here's the uncensored version, with the Concorde Club's reaction, and a suggestion by the poster that you should follow the Concorde Club to show support:
https://twitter.com/CarolMaps/status/1414958608199168007

It’s fun that the activists are encouraging people to like and support a venue whose twitter avatar is Jethro, who has been doing the same racist, sexist and homophobic material since Andrew Lawrence’s parents were foetuses.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Cuellar on July 14, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
It's hard to imagine the kind of person where it's Andrew Lawrence having a gig cancelled that crosses the red line for them and gets them sending out death threats.

Agreed. I don't think there's anyone, possibly even including Andrew Lawrence himself, that is that invested in Andrew Lawrence's career.

The 'threat' also seems to be a 'joke' (on par with the 'black people can't take penalties' one). To go from 'you will be attacked with hammers, stabbed' to 'we will throw dyes around. We will complain about your food'.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 14, 2021, 09:21:39 AM
It’s fun that the activists are encouraging people to like and support a venue whose twitter avatar is Jethro, who has been doing the same racist, sexist and homophobic material since Andrew Lawrence’s parents were foetuses.

Yeah I think "the activists" are suggesting doing that in support of them because of the threats of violence, not because they love their right-on woke comedy line-up.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wacky Homemade Badges on July 14, 2021, 09:41:44 AM
Yeah, that was in the 2014 show, his girlfriend and management both dumped him on the same week, the latter because they thought he had gone as far as he was ever going to. (Though presumably he was already rubbing people the wrong way by that point, that was after he filmed material for the Comedy Central Alternative Comedy Experience series that wasn’t used.)

AFAIK that agent dumped him because he was repeatedly nasty to people that worked there. Bawling at people down the phone, that sort of thing. Tho yeah, he could prob have got away with it if he was making them more money.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bernice on July 14, 2021, 09:50:50 AM
Yeah I think "the activists" are suggesting doing in support of them because of the threats of violence, not because they love their right-on woke comedy line-up, you tedious cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: DrGreggles on July 14, 2021, 09:51:51 AM
I saw Andrew Lawrence in Edinburgh probably about 10 years ago.
He was pretty good and was generating some of that famous Fringe buzz.

Not sure how it turned out like this.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: toetoe on July 14, 2021, 10:00:02 AM
I wouldnt be surprised if he had a character called Gordon

Gordon Deatthreat
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ambient Sheep on July 14, 2021, 10:02:54 AM
It’s fun that the activists are encouraging people to like and support a venue whose twitter avatar is Jethro, who has been doing the same racist, sexist and homophobic material since Andrew Lawrence’s parents were foetuses.

Ah.  Didn't know that as I'd barely heard of him.

Promptly unfollowed.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 14, 2021, 10:08:46 AM
Hang on, so psycho fan isn’t doing this against a woke comedy club at all, but one who puts Jethro on? Well that makes even less sense doesn’t it?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 14, 2021, 10:14:26 AM
Nah, he's done. The pricks agreeing with him and telling him he's fucking hilarious aren't gonna stick with him. They don't really like him, they just agree with him. He's no use to them now he's got no proper platform. Same thing happened with Milo.

He's deactivated his account, rather than Twitter suspending him. Not uncommon for people do to this when they're getting hassle over something - as long as you reactivate within 30 days, your account is still there.  It's entirely likely he'll be back once this has died down.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 14, 2021, 10:21:18 AM
as I've mentioned upthread, Lawrence has pretty much been treading the same boards as Geoff Norcott and to a certain extent Henning Wehn. I am sure there are others. There is a circuit out there for right-of-centre comedians who once appeared on Radio 4, always has been, always will be.

The thing is, the meat and drink of that circuit is actually largely "apolitical" acts and light stuff like Gyles Brandreth, Crissy Rock, tribute acts, late night Radio 3 folk singers, and guys who used to be in that band 35 years ago. That touring scene does not contain actual thoroughgoing out-and-proud racists. Like the literary theorist William Empson might have said, the Middle England sophisticated racist does not like to have too much racism in their artistic diet. His shows have been pulled and he's lost his agent* too. I don't think Andrew Lawrence or his fans are going to be this country's comedic equivalent of Dischord and DIY culture.

Like someone like Ariel Pink (who, if you don't follow music, detonated his own safe position in alternative music by coming out hard for Trump), Lawrence is just an eternal misfit. You, as an online angryperson, can performatively say "I'm going to buy everything Lawrence/Pink has ever done!" to own the libs. But comes a time when you have to listen to this stuff and it just isn't for everyone, and then their star will fade.

In Lawrence's case, it's because he isn't very good. That's the sad truth. He's a winnit clinging onto the arse of alternative culture because he hasn't even got the courage of his convictions to go out and do something else. He'll probably have to now. This was not a brilliant calculated move to win over the racist pound, just like his 2014 pivot to UKIP wasn't either. It was pure self-sabotage.

Just hope someone is looking after him, because internet hate adrenaline withdrawal is real.

* I know someone going out with an RBM act and apparently they were on the phone all day saying lose Lawrence or I walk.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: holyzombiejesus on July 14, 2021, 10:53:56 AM
as I've mentioned upthread, Lawrence has pretty much been treading the same boards as Geoff Norcott and to a certain extent Henning Wehn. I am sure there are others. There is a circuit out there for right-of-centre comedians who once appeared on Radio 4, always has been, always will be.

I've seen this mentioned about Wehn before (think it was in a Stewart Lee article) and I don't get it. I've never seen him do anything that could be described as right wing/ right of centre. Where does it come from?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: king_tubby on July 14, 2021, 11:04:08 AM
I saw him 10 years ago and he was skating on thin ice, chucked a few racial slurs in to his act that weren't well received by the audience.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 14, 2021, 11:19:19 AM
Who published that?

(I want them cancelled)

"Independently published" (I realise that was possibly your point) https://www.amazon.co.uk/Glossary-PC-Tossery-Andrew-Lawrence/dp/1520706367/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1626257158&sr=8-1
Judging from the preview, it's the same sledgehammer style he uses for his one-man videos - ostensibly poking fun at "the metropolitan liberal elite" but just coming across as bitter intolerance.

You may be interested in Amazon's other suggestions.

(https://i.imgur.com/L5VG5o6.png)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Utterdrivel on July 14, 2021, 11:20:43 AM
Who published that?

(I want them cancelled)


Him, so you've got your wish.




Edit: ahh fuck sake
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dr beat on July 14, 2021, 11:31:14 AM
I've seen this mentioned about Wehn before (think it was in a Stewart Lee article) and I don't get it. I've never seen him do anything that could be described as right wing/ right of centre. Where does it come from?

I dunno about Wehn's more recent material, but I saw him at the Fringe 10 years ago.  His set was fine and all quite amiable until the last 10 minutes or so, when he started doing stuff along the lines of 'those East Germans, coming over to the West and taking our jobs etc'.  It didn't seem ironic either, or perhaps I was missing something.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 14, 2021, 11:34:22 AM
I saw him before that - maybe fifteen years ago and he was good fun. Think his into Covid denial now. Don't know if he's grifting - probably not as wasn't he on the Jimmy Carr Countdown thing and Just A Minute and that? Must mean it all man.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 14, 2021, 11:42:36 AM
I saw him really early on in his career, about 2002, when he was a bit more surreal - the one joke I remember well enough is that you can put two dots on the bottom of a white mug before your friend comes round, and then when he drinks from it he'll look like a pig. I've only caught him on panel shows etc since but assumed, with him being described as right of centre, that a lot of his stage act would be pandering to those stereotypes about the Geeeeeeermans for reactionary audiences.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: peanutbutter on July 14, 2021, 11:46:15 AM
He's just your standard libertarian weirdo comedian isn't he? More likely to have slightly mad views on things than be a cunt, certainly not politically committed enough for it to become his whole act but possibly not super comfortable with the perceived liberal excesses of London or w/e
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 14, 2021, 11:46:27 AM
He has been very vocal on Twitter about has anti-lockdown stance and how it is all a big fuss over nothing. I don't think he is grifting. He is just a bit of an arse
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: RicoMNKN on July 14, 2021, 11:50:21 AM
I clicked the preview of his book, and the font size and margin is so big that there's only about 100 words per page. 

Very Dame Sally Markham.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 14, 2021, 11:58:33 AM
he started doing stuff along the lines of 'those East Germans, coming over to the West and taking our jobs etc'.  It didn't seem ironic either, or perhaps I was missing something.

This seems the likeliest explanation.

He has been very vocal on Twitter about has anti-lockdown stance and how it is all a big fuss over nothing. I don't think he is grifting. He is just a bit of an arse

Or he's an intelligent, rational and affable human being who has come to a different conclusion about authoritarian state overreach.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 14, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
I dunno about Wehn's more recent material, but I saw him at the Fringe 10 years ago.  His set was fine and all quite amiable until the last 10 minutes or so, when he started doing stuff along the lines of 'those East Germans, coming over to the West and taking our jobs etc'.  It didn't seem ironic either, or perhaps I was missing something.

I saw him 2007 and 2009 and he did a similar routine both times (I think?), but I don’t remember it being serious? Looong time ago though, so he gets the benefit of the doubt on it from me.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 14, 2021, 12:43:54 PM
This seems the likeliest explanation.

Or he's an intelligent, rational and affable human being who has come to a different conclusion about authoritarian state overreach.

His posts show neither intelligence, rationality or affability
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 14, 2021, 12:44:59 PM
His posts show neither intelligence, rationality or affability

Well, it is Twitter.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 14, 2021, 12:46:15 PM
am not saying that Henning Wehn is some rabid right wing comedian, he's funny first and then if you unpack it there's a vaguely 'sensible centrist' thrust that is classic UK centre rightism. it's not really the point I'm making: Wehn will be fine because he hasn't crossed the Actual Racism Rubicon, nor has Norcott.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 14, 2021, 01:00:36 PM
I saw Norcott live not long ago and he started with some fairly trad yet edgy stuff and then dipped his toe in the water with a joke about identity politics that went down like a lead balloon so he back-tracked and carried on as before. Didn't really show the courage of his convictions
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Brundle-Fly on July 14, 2021, 01:54:09 PM

 You, as an online angryperson, can performatively say "I'm going to buy everything Lawrence/Pink has ever done!" to own the libs. .


It's true. I own all the Felt and Denim albums and think 'Get The Party Started' is a banger. How do like them apples, Mr Guardian reader?!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thelittlemango on July 14, 2021, 02:06:53 PM
I saw him 2007 and 2009 and he did a similar routine both times (I think?), but I don’t remember it being serious? Looong time ago though, so he gets the benefit of the doubt on it from me.

I think it's definitely not serious, there was also this documentary he did where he looked at East/West Germany in a fairly nuanced way: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0337m36
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barney Sloane on July 14, 2021, 02:24:06 PM
Speaking of documentaries, did anybody see that Sky Arts docu ‘The Outcast Comic’ from a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: The Ombudsman on July 14, 2021, 03:16:29 PM
Speaking of documentaries, did anybody see that Sky Arts docu ‘The Outcast Comic’ from a couple of years ago?

No, but sounds good. I'll have a look for it.

There is a US based one about road comics which I've been wanting to see. Road Dogs I think it's called.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: MojoJojo on July 14, 2021, 03:36:54 PM
  His set was fine and all quite amiable until the last 10 minutes or so, when he started doing stuff along the lines of 'those East Germans, coming over to the West and taking our jobs etc'.  It didn't seem ironic either, or perhaps I was missing something.

That's a bit odd, as he's talked about doing an east-west university exchange thing not long after the wall came down, and it seemed to have been a positive experience.

He has done some ironic racism on Radio 4, although all I've heard has been on the ridiculous end of that.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Earnest Sexpot on July 14, 2021, 04:48:11 PM
am not saying that Henning Wehn is some rabid right wing comedian, he's funny first and then if you unpack it there's a vaguely 'sensible centrist' thrust that is classic UK centre rightism. it's not really the point I'm making: Wehn will be fine because he hasn't crossed the Actual Racism Rubicon, nor has Norcott.

Did a wee snoop of his twitter after what people said in this thread, he's firmly against the racism recently levelled at England players, does seem to think going vegan and exercising prevents COVID, odd but fairly harmless, but did retweet some overtly transphobic stuff that explicitly described being trans as 'made-up nonsense', which is a shame but at this stage entirely unsurprising for someone in the UK comedy scene, wish our country didn't have such a pervasive transphobia problem
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 14, 2021, 05:06:11 PM
Did a wee snoop of his twitter after what people said in this thread, he's firmly against the racism recently levelled at England players, does seem to think going vegan and exercising prevents COVID, odd but fairly harmless, but did retweet some overtly transphobic stuff that explicitly described being trans as 'made-up nonsense', which is a shame but at this stage entirely unsurprising for someone in the UK comedy scene, wish our country didn't have such a pervasive transphobia problem

you (i) hate to see it (overt transphobia from someone i once respected).
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: j_u_d_a_s on July 14, 2021, 05:20:26 PM
Imagine being the sort of shut-in who continually blindly defends people he doesn't know from accusations of racism while affecting a whisp-thin air of unearned superiority...

There's a post on Wehn's timeline defending Nick "2 star review average" Dixon of "I lost a gig because I'm a white man" fame, that's a red card straight away.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Earnest Sexpot on July 14, 2021, 05:34:52 PM
you (i) hate to see it (overt transphobia from someone i once respected).

It's really disappointing, was watching a Would I Lie to You? rerun with him yesterday too and he was very funny, but stuff like this is pretty cut-and-dry

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1232319366060003328?s=19
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 14, 2021, 06:27:49 PM
I wonder if Lawrence is bricking it after this.

https://www.estateagenttoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2021/7/savills-agent-arrested-by-police-over-racist-tweet
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 14, 2021, 07:29:25 PM
It's really disappointing, was watching a Would I Lie to You? rerun with him yesterday too and he was very funny, but stuff like this is pretty cut-and-dry

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1232319366060003328?s=19
wow thats nasty. What the fuck provoked that. What a cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 14, 2021, 07:59:01 PM
Imagine being the sort of shut-in who continually blindly defends people he doesn't know from accusations of racism while affecting a whisp-thin air of unearned superiority...

You don’t have to imagine very hard do you? Except you’re not defending anyone, you prefer the blindly accusing bit, which of course morally is much better. Switch those round and your post points to an amusing self awareness problem.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dothestrand on July 14, 2021, 08:34:17 PM
I saw him 10 years ago and he was skating on thin ice, chucked a few racial slurs in to his act that weren't well received by the audience.

I saw him in a very white provincial town several years ago and his "fucking Greek" jokes were, I presumed, a send-up of the audience laughing along, unaware they're the target of the satire, just like Al Murray's shtick. Or maybe there was less than meets the eye. I'm never convinced that 'making fun of the audience by pandering to their prejudices' stuff works anyway.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 14, 2021, 08:53:49 PM
EDIT: Ignore
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mister Six on July 14, 2021, 08:59:20 PM
I get what people are saying about his act, but nobody deserves to be stabbed to death at a bus stop like that

You joke, but the first few million times I saw Andrew Lawrence threads I genuinely thought Stephen Lawrence had unexpectedly survived, unexpectedly become a stand-up comedian and - most unexpectedly of all - turned out to be a massive racist twat.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mr. logic on July 14, 2021, 09:02:41 PM
Probably not that hilarious to joke about a racist murder, lads.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 14, 2021, 09:05:33 PM
Yeah, sorry. I don’t normally do edgy jokes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mister Six on July 14, 2021, 09:16:22 PM
Aye, fair. I did confuse him for Stephen Lawrence the first few times I saw the thread title, though that's more of a comment on me being a dunce than anything else.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 14, 2021, 09:19:00 PM
Aye, fair. I did confuse him for Stephen Lawrence the first few times I saw the thread title, though that's more of a comment on me being a dunce than anything else.

Bizarre statement. Dunce? Nah. Normal.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 14, 2021, 09:25:59 PM
Probably not that hilarious to joke about a racist murder, lads.

It's not about a racist murder, it's about a name confusion.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: j_u_d_a_s on July 14, 2021, 09:30:16 PM
You don’t have to imagine very hard do you? Except you’re not defending anyone, you prefer the blindly accusing bit, which of course morally is much better. Switch those round and your post points to an amusing self awareness problem.

Gosh you're sensitive, how do you even know I was talking about you? In any case, wasn't defending anyone. If we're doing the self-awareness thing then it may help to actually read the post you're replying to.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: imitationleather on July 14, 2021, 10:42:05 PM
I dunno if I confused him with Stephen Lawrence, but I did think it was a weirdly bland and forgettable name for a comedian. Could never place who he was as a result and it would definitely take a few posts whenever I came in this thread before I remembered he was that mad shit racist twitter comedian.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 14, 2021, 11:03:12 PM
So what actually has Andrew Lawrence actually said that was racist actually?

No? Can't hear you. Nothing to say?

Case closed you Rik from the Young Oneses.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 14, 2021, 11:14:36 PM
racist actually?


Richard Curtis considers woke rewrite
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: who cares on July 14, 2021, 11:22:46 PM
I remember watching him on the last day of the 2014 Edinburgh Fringe, said this here at the time:

‘He claimed he was quitting stand up because the UK scene is "toxic and corrupt". It was quite a bleak show, with him ranting that he could never be a mainstream success no matter how talented he is as he isn't a Cambridge Footlights type of comic (presumably public school & painfully middle class) and those are the ones the industry pushes to success. He said he had wasted his life chasing an unachievable dream, and he lives in a shithole London neighbourhood where there are shootings on his street etc as a result.

Of course I have no idea how much of it was real and how much was just part of the show, but there weren't many jokes in his set!’

I saw him live, and there was a similar section at the end; at the point at which Lee Evans might perform a mawkish song, Lawrence went into a bitter, joke-free rant about how he was (as he saw it) being overtaken by lesser talents because they happened to be women or minorities. The thrust of it being that he'd worked his way up from nothing, won Young Comedian of the Year (or something), gigged around the country for years, and yet was losing work due to diversity quotients. I didn't know that someone could get so angry about not being invited onto Mock the Week.

I think Lawrence, for whatever reason wants to be, or at least be seen as a bête noire. I see similarities with Morrissey- someone who once eloquently spoke about alienation, later alienating others, including his own fans.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 15, 2021, 09:55:36 AM
I dunno if I confused him with Stephen Lawrence, but I did think it was a weirdly bland and forgettable name for a comedian. Could never place who he was as a result and it would definitely take a few posts whenever I came in this thread before I remembered he was that mad shit racist twitter comedian.
First time I saw Andrew Lawrence he was on the same bill as Andrew Maxwell, who was much better. Luckily while the names are equally dull, their accents are easily distinguishable. I think Lawrence has been struggling for a gimmick ever since. Like when Russell Kane went through a phase of different hairstyles to distinguish himself from the other Russells.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Trumpet on July 15, 2021, 09:57:08 AM
Who's the guy who used to collaborate with Richard Herring? Had a column in the Radio Times. I keep thinking of him when I see this thread title.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: gmoney on July 15, 2021, 09:57:44 AM
Andrew Collings.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 15, 2021, 09:58:51 AM
Like when Russell Kane went through a phase of different hairstyles to distinguish himself from the other Russells.

I thought he did that by calling himself Nick Grimshaw.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 15, 2021, 10:00:04 AM
I saw him live, and there was a similar section at the end; at the point at which Lee Evans might perform a mawkish song, Lawrence went into a bitter, joke-free rant about how he was (as he saw it) being overtaken by lesser talents because they happened to be women or minorities. The thrust of it being that he'd worked his way up from nothing, won Young Comedian of the Year (or something), gigged around the country for years, and yet was losing work due to diversity quotients. I didn't know that someone could get so angry about not being invited onto Mock the Week.

Feels like he, in wrestling parlance, worked himself into a shoot in delivering this pre-planned bit 24 times in a month and then again at selected civic centres across the country for 3 months more.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: gilbertharding on July 15, 2021, 10:37:19 AM
It's really disappointing, was watching a Would I Lie to You? rerun with him yesterday too and he was very funny, but stuff like this is pretty cut-and-dry

https://twitter.com/henningwehn/status/1232319366060003328?s=19

It is.

But the BBC does seem to have collectively decided that what the public wants is drag queens. All the time. He couldn't have meant that, could he?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: imitationleather on July 15, 2021, 10:57:49 AM
First time I saw Andrew Lawrence he was on the same bill as Andrew Maxwell, who was much better. Luckily while the names are equally dull, their accents are easily distinguishable. I think Lawrence has been struggling for a gimmick ever since. Like when Russell Kane went through a phase of different hairstyles to distinguish himself from the other Russells.

Aha, yes. It's Andrew Maxwell that I'd been confusing him with for years as well! I'd been wondering why that nice-seeming Irish comic had become a massive racist.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: tinglingoxbow on July 15, 2021, 11:22:42 AM
I sort of thought that as well, and here’s why: I forget who (Doc Brown?) talked with Rich about Lawrence on RHLSTP, but it really humanized him to me.

Based off this comment I went back and listened to that interview again, and while it was a great listen (Doc Brown is really a very intelligent and charming person), he doesn't mention Lawrence in it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 15, 2021, 11:28:53 AM
Based off this comment I went back and listened to that interview again, and while it was a great listen (Doc Brown is really a very intelligent and charming person), he doesn't mention Lawrence in it.

DB really comes across as a nice chap, that might be why I’m mis-remembering him as helping to humanize the struggles of AL. I stand corrected, even if I can’t remember who it was!

Edit: think it was Dane Baptiste, I should get some credit for the right initials.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 15, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
Baptiste, as I recall, talks about a Sky Arts documentary called The Outcast Comic - about Andrew Lawrence - from 2016. It's kind of a hagiography of being an outsider comic, which is what Lawrence sort of wants, to be considered an outsider and loved for it, until he can't stand the love because he can't stand himself, and tries a whole new way of being an outsider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3mKs2Fr5k (trailer here)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mobius on July 15, 2021, 12:05:13 PM
https://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2021/07/14/48814/andrew_lawrence%3A_ive_been_stitched_up_by_the_woke_stasi

Crying on his patreon
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 15, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
the conversation between Baptiste & Herring on Lawrence begins at 27.37: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWkwHMFV74
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 15, 2021, 12:30:17 PM
Oh right, so racism is black people's fault? Got it
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 15, 2021, 01:08:31 PM
Have white working class people been discriminated in the workplace in the past decade? I have no idea.

Although, presumably, if the racist outbursts (that have been around much longer than the past decade but for sake of argument) are expected and acceptable to Lawrence as a response to a decade of discrimination in just the workplace, surely he'd be fine with minorities in this country full on rioting  and overthrowing governments or something, because they've been discriminated properly for a very long time.

Good to know where the cunt stands on this.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: drummersaredeaf on July 15, 2021, 01:50:07 PM
Talk of quotas is pervasive, but not based in reality. I taught a class on equality diversity and discrimination in work earlier this year (basic level stuff), and a number of students cited quotas as a positive thing and I had to tell them that they simply don't exist. There was a high profile case in a police force (Cheshire?) where the process was adapted in order to allow a number of non white candidates further in the process than they should have gotten by merit, and one of the whites that missed out rinsed the force at tribunal for exactly that reason. There can be attempts to recruit more from underrepresented groups (women in STEM for example), and where two candidates are otherwise equal there can be an argument that diversity is a valid justification for 'positive discrimination', but any talk of organisations having formal systems to keep whitey out is just not true. Informally, the opposite is very easily achieved though. I know of a number of decent sized businesses where the people running the recruitment are actively marking down those that they don't want to work there - because the recruitment is mostly run by front line managers.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 15, 2021, 02:15:02 PM
Talk of quotas is pervasive, but not based in reality. I taught a class on equality diversity and discrimination in work earlier this year (basic level stuff), and a number of students cited quotas as a positive thing and I had to tell them that they simply don't exist. There was a high profile case in a police force (Cheshire?) where the process was adapted in order to allow a number of non white candidates further in the process than they should have gotten by merit, and one of the whites that missed out rinsed the force at tribunal for exactly that reason. There can be attempts to recruit more from underrepresented groups (women in STEM for example), and where two candidates are otherwise equal there can be an argument that diversity is a valid justification for 'positive discrimination', but any talk of organisations having formal systems to keep whitey out is just not true. Informally, the opposite is very easily achieved though. I know of a number of decent sized businesses where the people running the recruitment are actively marking down those that they don't want to work there - because the recruitment is mostly run by front line managers.

yeah I don't think Lawrence cares about that



Happy he went with "woke stasi". These people just copy and paste from each other don't they?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 15, 2021, 02:37:31 PM
I wish the woke stasi paid well cos I'm fucking broke
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 15, 2021, 06:24:31 PM
Same with the PC brigade.

One could argue that white working class people are discriminated against by unscrupulous bosses who exploit their employees, but I don’t think that’s the angle Lawrence is looking for.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 15, 2021, 06:33:46 PM
Same with the PC brigade.

One could argue that white working class people are discriminated against by unscrupulous bosses who exploit their employees, but I don’t think that’s the angle Lawrence is looking for.

That's a big gap in the logic I dont understand with these grifters; why bring the working class into it? The enemy of the working class are surely the classes above them, not the same working class people with a different skin pigmentation.

It's so fucking stupid I can't even pretend to understand it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 15, 2021, 06:39:49 PM
"The enemy of the working class are all those evil people who earn roughly the same as them but have degrees and do a professional job and who have got a problem with proper salt-of-the-earth tradesmen shouting about birds and tits and Muslims into their cups of builders' tea,"

says the person with a degree and a professional job but who coincidentally doesn't like feminists and Muslims and who definitely isn't disparaging the working class.

The whole bunch of people who are not working in professional jobs or in trades and are earning significantly less money don't even bare thinking about, obv
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 15, 2021, 07:14:45 PM
"The enemy of the working class are all those evil people who earn roughly the same as them but have degrees and do a professional job and who have got a problem with proper salt-of-the-earth tradesmen shouting about birds and tits and Muslims into their cups of builders' tea,"

says the person with a degree and a professional job

Is that Lawrence you're talking about there?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 15, 2021, 07:19:20 PM
It is scapegoating the people at the bottom so the people at the top can get away with exploiting people. It is a classic tactic, and bitter old cunts like him fall for it every time. Like blaming dole scroungers for lack of government funds or left wing campaigners for the Tories getting into power. If people are fighting with each they won't have the time or energy to fight the real villains
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 15, 2021, 08:43:13 PM
That's a big gap in the logic I dont understand with these grifters; why bring the working class into it? The enemy of the working class are surely the classes above them, not the same working class people with a different skin pigmentation.

It's so fucking stupid I can't even pretend to understand it.
I agree (and Trenter has made some very good posts about this subject). Black and white working-class people have more in common with EACH OTHER than with Boris Johnson.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 15, 2021, 10:35:10 PM
Is that Lawrence you're talking about there?

I'm not saying anything specifically about Lawrence. Maybe some of his audience. Or a general trend in thought.

Briefly perusing his Wikipedia page and he is much more middle class than me, which is saying something.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 15, 2021, 11:12:58 PM
Sounds like a certain other right-wing dildo called Lawrence who claims he’s down with working-class men.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 15, 2021, 11:30:25 PM
Sounds like a certain other right-wing dildo called Lawrence who claims he’s down with working-class men.
Thank you! I was hoping someone would mention the elephant in the room  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQWoTgSJ84
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ProvanFan on July 15, 2021, 11:49:11 PM
Evil eyes
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Captain Z on July 16, 2021, 12:51:48 AM
Andrew Lawrence
Andrew Neil
Laurence Fox

Anyone know what Neil "Dr" Fox's views are these days?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 16, 2021, 02:06:12 AM
Basil Brush is keeping very quiet these days. Questions must be asked.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 16, 2021, 05:59:36 AM
Basil Brush is keeping very quiet these days. Questions must be asked.

With that plummy voice, he's almost certainly a Tory or UKIP supporter.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: imitationleather on July 16, 2021, 09:44:44 AM
(https://dch81km8r5tow.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lawrence_Huck_JDM-1.jpg)

Only listened to it once (as it were pure shite), but the last Go-Kart Mozart album seemed to contain some very questionable views. So there's another Lawrence #cancelled forever.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 16, 2021, 09:58:57 AM
That's all very well but why bring Dot Cotton into this
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 16, 2021, 10:53:47 AM
With that plummy voice, he's almost certainly a Tory or UKIP supporter.
"Please don't hunt me! I'm one of the good ones!"
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BeardFaceMan on July 16, 2021, 11:33:57 AM
Baptiste, as I recall, talks about a Sky Arts documentary called The Outcast Comic - about Andrew Lawrence - from 2016. It's kind of a hagiography of being an outsider comic, which is what Lawrence sort of wants, to be considered an outsider and loved for it, until he can't stand the love because he can't stand himself, and tries a whole new way of being an outsider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj3mKs2Fr5k (trailer here)

That looks interesting, is it available to watch anywhere?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: who cares on July 16, 2021, 12:39:45 PM
I watched it with NowTV a few years back; I don't currently have the service to check but I expect it's still available.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 16, 2021, 03:33:57 PM
I watched it with NowTV a few years back; I don't currently have the service to check but I expect it's still available.

Their Search function is hopeless, but I've trawled alphabetically through Arts, Comedy and Documentaries sections and it's not there.

I like the way the trailer makes it seem like it's about someone who became a serial killer https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59aeyj
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Earnest Sexpot on July 16, 2021, 04:28:53 PM
Their Search function is hopeless, but I've trawled alphabetically through Arts, Comedy and Documentaries sections and it's not there.

I like the way the trailer makes it seem like it's about someone who became a serial killer https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59aeyj

There's a four-minute chunk of it here at the start of the director's showreel

https://vimeo.com/264429832/
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 16, 2021, 05:30:48 PM
There's a four-minute chunk of it here at the start of the director's showreel

https://vimeo.com/264429832/

Now it seems mild stuff compared to his recent misjudgments.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 16, 2021, 06:00:34 PM
Does Lawrence have an autobiography published?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 17, 2021, 04:21:29 PM
What an utter shithead. 
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: petrilTanaka on July 17, 2021, 05:18:08 PM
(https://dch81km8r5tow.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lawrence_Huck_JDM-1.jpg)

Only listened to it once (as it were pure shite), but the last Go-Kart Mozart album seemed to contain some very questionable views. So there's another Lawrence #cancelled forever.

Paul Whitehouse has let himself go
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 17, 2021, 05:18:55 PM
'...cups of builders' tea...'

Oh, lah-di-dah, Mr Cuntabout!

It's MUGS. You fail Working Class Forever.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Utter Shit on July 17, 2021, 05:39:56 PM
What an utter shithead. 

He's a fan of mine is he?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 17, 2021, 06:06:56 PM
'...cups of builders' tea...'

Oh, lah-di-dah, Mr Cuntabout!

It's MUGS. You fail Working Class Forever.

Nobody's ever offered me a mugga
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 17, 2021, 06:10:34 PM
Quite right too, they steal things.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 17, 2021, 06:54:23 PM
Do working class people say mug of tea? I've always said cup of tea or cuppa. Can you drink a cup of tea out of a cup that isn't a mug though? That would be strange.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 17, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
'...cups of builders' tea...'


Builders have their own brand, do they?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 17, 2021, 07:05:21 PM
Only posh people drink out of cups (or people trying to be posh). Good, honest, bluff, hearty salt-of-the-fucking-Earth types drink unpretentious MUGS of BUILDERS' TEA
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on July 17, 2021, 07:14:54 PM
Think I’ve always had cups of tea but mugs of coffee. An astonishing realization, you’ll agree.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 17, 2021, 07:28:45 PM
CUP OF TEA, TEDDY?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: non capisco on July 17, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Typical attempt at a southern working class accent employing a rhotasicism as if we all sound like Pete Beale. I may have been born in the Medway muck but I can still pronounce the letter 'r', mate. 

Gone right off this guy!!!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 17, 2021, 07:54:45 PM
Understand the idiom of your own language:

Builders 2
CABlads 0
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 17, 2021, 11:22:46 PM
Can you drink a cup of tea out of a cup that isn't a mug though? That would be strange.

A China cup?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pavlov`s Dog`s Dad`s Dead on July 17, 2021, 11:24:45 PM
A China cup?
A succulent China cup?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 17, 2021, 11:28:52 PM
Typical attempt at a southern working class accent employing a rhotasicism as if we all sound like Pete Beale. I may have been born in the Medway muck but I can still pronounce the letter 'r', mate. 

Gone right off this guy!!!

I live in it and I can still pwonahnce me "r"s an' all. Oh fack. Pawline!!!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 18, 2021, 11:58:15 AM
Typical attempt at a southern working class accent employing a rhotasicism as if we all sound like Pete Beale. I may have been born in the Medway muck but I can still pronounce the letter 'r', mate. 

Gone right off this guy!!!

According to what I've just read, 'rhotacism' means emphasised use of the 'r' sound, whereas you seem to saying it means minimised or excluded use of it.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: non capisco on July 18, 2021, 11:59:46 AM
I thought it meant like a Jonathan Woss thing but I may be wrong. You know what I mean anyway.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 18, 2021, 12:18:47 PM
It's arguably a bit of both, as rhotacism relates to non-standard pronunciation of the letter r. That would include pronouncing r as w, and I think that's how it's generally used now, although I suppose someone who theatrically rolls the letter r is also using it.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 18, 2021, 12:21:17 PM
This is the finest example of it anyway  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmemb7LmzEo
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 18, 2021, 01:06:54 PM
I've always thought "builders' tea" was a middle class affectation anyway, like they're a bit apologetic for not having acquired the taste for lapsang or whatever. The assumption is that they have a box of Tetleys at the back of the cupboard which they keep only for the tradesmen whom they regularly hire. Or which they secretly drink all the time because it's much tastier than the posh stuff anyway.

Proper working class people call it "tea". Not a lot to be confused about when you only have one brand in the house.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on July 18, 2021, 01:17:12 PM
Recently it seems to mean 'very strong tea' with more than two sugars. I grew up on the dole and the tea was always weak shit, so fuck knows.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 18, 2021, 04:20:28 PM
There's a Lionel Fanthorpe story where one of his characters goes on about the only three kinds of tea worth drinking: railwayman's tea, sergeant-major's tea, and trawlerman's tea. Builders don't even get a look-in, parvenu, petit bourgeois bastards.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: pigamus on July 18, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
Recently it seems to mean 'very strong tea' with more than two sugars. I grew up on the dole and the tea was always weak shit, so fuck knows.

Yeah, the colour of bricks with ten sugars, basically.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 18, 2021, 04:34:03 PM
There's a Lionel Fanthorpe story where one of his characters goes on about the only three kinds of tea worth drinking: railwayman's tea, sergeant-major's tea, and trawlerman's tea. Builders don't even get a look-in, parvenu, petit bourgeois bastards.

I wonder how each of the three types of tea differed.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on July 18, 2021, 05:05:09 PM
I wonder how each of the three types of tea differed.

I looked it up, from The Golden Chalice, "railwayman's tea" is very strong, and "trawlerman's" even stronger:

(https://i.imgur.com/NhGClKO.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1vZGxKT.png)

Elsewhere "sergeant major's tea" is described as strong sweet tea, and as American military slang for tea with rum.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 18, 2021, 05:13:34 PM
Thank you, that's really interesting. I can imagine trawlermen (and trawlerwomen) would want very strong tea, it sounds quite full on.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 18, 2021, 10:12:33 PM
According to what I've just read, 'rhotacism' means emphasised use of the 'r' sound, whereas you seem to saying it means minimised or excluded use of it.

I find it difficult to explain but I think Pete Beale did actually do it. It's not a Jonathan Ross sound (despite my crap attempt to do it).

Hang on I know - Chris Bell's Fishing Report
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on July 19, 2021, 02:30:01 AM
Thank you, that's really interesting. I can imagine trawlermen (and trawlerwomen) would want very strong tea, it sounds quite full on.

You're welcome; and thanks to Catalogue Trousers for bringing it up. Looking it up also brought up an instance of B.S. Johnson writing about a trawlerman's tea (meaning a meal of fish) in his book Trawl, which is a novel I've meant to read for a while and might also interest you while you're thinking about trawlerpeople.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 19, 2021, 10:17:00 AM
Only posh people drink out of cups (or people trying to be posh). Good, honest, bluff, hearty salt-of-the-fucking-Earth types drink unpretentious MUGS of BUILDERS' TEA
I've worked in a series of professional jobs and they've only ever had Tetley or PG Tips in the kitchen. And mugs, obviously. Does that make me honorary working class?[1]
 1. When not bringing in my own stuff from the Chinese supermarket.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: gib on July 19, 2021, 11:04:00 AM
I've always thought "builders' tea" was a middle class affectation anyway

totally
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 19, 2021, 03:29:22 PM
Recently it seems to mean 'very strong tea' with more than two sugars. I grew up on the dole and the tea was always weak shit, so fuck knows.

3 mugs to a teabag in my childhood home. My grandparents would hang them on the washing line to reuse.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Cuellar on July 19, 2021, 03:31:40 PM
What the hell is the difference between a mug and a cup
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mardukas on July 19, 2021, 03:33:03 PM
What the hell is the difference between a mug and a cup
A mug requires the use of the little finger.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: MojoJojo on July 19, 2021, 03:35:45 PM
A cup has a saucer.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 19, 2021, 03:40:16 PM
What the hell is the difference between a mug and a cup

All mugs are cups but not all cups are mugs.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 19, 2021, 04:19:39 PM
I feel like a cup is more cup-shaped.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Gurke and Hare on July 19, 2021, 04:56:26 PM
A mug doesn't come with 2 girls.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: petrilTanaka on July 19, 2021, 05:43:24 PM
nobody really wants to win the league cup
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Thursday on July 19, 2021, 07:51:38 PM
What the hell is the difference between a mug and a cup

There's none, it's just a few cunts on here that pretend anyone cares.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bernice on July 19, 2021, 07:54:05 PM
A mug doesn't come with 2 girls.

Only a mug would pass up the opportunity!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bronzy on July 19, 2021, 07:57:36 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/67656097.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: chveik on July 19, 2021, 08:01:06 PM
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81ueRrksHaL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 19, 2021, 08:14:08 PM
Quote
You're welcome; and thanks to Catalogue Trousers for bringing it up.

And thanks to you for digging up not only the book, but that wonderful extended passage, Smeraldina! I only remembered the 'three types of tea' bit (and the reference to 'Boy George') from Neil Gaiman and Kim Newman's wonderful anthology of quotes from various SF/Fantasy/Horror novels and films, Ghastly Beyond Belief, which I bought when it first came out but sadly lost some years later. It currently goes online for about 25-30 quid, but I had the great good fortune to find a near-mint replacement for 50p in the Lions charity shop in Thornbury.

I've always seen a mug as a solidly-made, cylindrical container for tea (or other beverages): drop it on the floor and it probably won't break unless you do so from a great height. A cup is more elegantly crafted, thinner and thus more prone to breakages, and altogether more poncy-pose (as Ben Elton once said) than a solid, unpretentious, salt-of-the-Earth mug.

And it's also gratifying to see that this thread has mutated into being about dangerously strong tea and how it's best drunk, rather than poisonous bullshit from a desperate has-been.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Kankurette on July 19, 2021, 08:31:52 PM
I have Taylor's of Yorkshire in my house, if only cos my stepdad is a tea man and that's the one he likes. I'm a coffee woman myself though, soz.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Alberon on July 19, 2021, 09:01:36 PM
I love how the original topic of this thread quickly became so boring it’s been nothing but tea the last few pages.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on July 19, 2021, 09:49:11 PM
I suppose of the standard British tea Yorkshires are the best but a nice cup of Glengettie doesn't go amiss.

The best teas are your mildness ones though; Lapsing, Darjeeling, Russian Caravan, Assam etc
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 19, 2021, 10:07:55 PM
All the teas…
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on July 19, 2021, 10:12:10 PM
I love how the original topic of this thread quickly became so boring it’s been nothing but tea the last few pages.

Not exactly triggered are we?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 19, 2021, 10:14:05 PM
Not exactly triggered are we?

Saltea!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 19, 2021, 10:28:26 PM
Cushtea!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: kalowski on July 19, 2021, 10:32:29 PM
What the hell is the difference between a mug and a cup
A cup doesn't go in a mugboard.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: who cares on July 19, 2021, 10:37:22 PM
There's none, it's just a few cunts on here that pretend anyone cares.

Not true. If you go for "elevenses" at Harrods, they don't serve you tea in a mug.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 20, 2021, 09:19:04 AM
Mugs are usually mix and match. Sometimes they have jokes on them, or something big and bold. Cups usually come in a set (including matching saucers) with a more po-faced design, plain or patterned or floral.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: amateur on July 20, 2021, 09:21:07 AM
Clipper is the best tea, anything else is just dishwater.

If anyone ever asks for sugar in their tea at my house they get one spoon, regardless of how much they ask for. They can never tell the difference.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on July 20, 2021, 09:21:10 AM
Mugs are basically cylindrical and cups are thinner at the bottom, as a rule
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 20, 2021, 09:23:41 AM
Cups are typically half the size of mugs. You don't get novelty sized cups (like those Sports Direct mugs), apart from those naff novelty flowerpot things. Nothing you actually drink tea from.

And mugs aren't used along with a teapot and milk jug.⁸
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Cuellar on July 20, 2021, 09:28:09 AM
Does anyone actually give a fuck what sort of receptacle they receive a hot drink in, though.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 20, 2021, 09:52:34 AM
Does anyone actually give a fuck what sort of receptacle they receive a hot drink in, though.

Since we're differentiating between cups and mugs, the typical china cup would be too small for me. My preferred cuppa is in the biggest 'mug' in the house.

Also you'd prefer to have a non-chipped receptacle with a handle.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on July 20, 2021, 11:50:12 AM
Does anyone actually give a fuck what sort of receptacle they receive a hot drink in, though.

Aspirational old people do.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on July 20, 2021, 12:36:06 PM
Does anyone actually give a fuck what sort of receptacle they receive a hot drink in, though.

(https://www.modip.ac.uk/sites/default/files/styles/artefact_carousel_full/public/images/artefacts/006853_4.jpg?itok=Ek4nPJmI)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: dissolute ocelot on July 20, 2021, 12:45:16 PM
What about those giant cups with saucers (https://www.nisbets.co.uk/olympia-cafe-cappuccino-cups-red-340ml/gk076?vatToggle=incvat&plaid=1&cm_mmc=PLA-_-1665275221-_-63901012986-_-GK076&cm_mmca1=go_1665275221_63901012986_321523756681_pla-854325726920_c_&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6NmHBhD2ARIsAI3hrM2ecsvyrBxzLPiPk27OQQ6I6RkKVPYuWehJP2C1wzBYOylMUaJBN2oaAvX2EALw_wcB) you get in Costa with a cappuccino or latte in them? Where do they sit on the socio-economic scale? Is it more working class to get your latte in a cardboard cup?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: amateur on July 20, 2021, 12:49:28 PM
Cups are in the biscuit aisle whilst mugs are technically a cake.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 20, 2021, 01:40:50 PM
Cups have been adopted as a generally recognised term for those bits in bras that do the actual boulder-holding. Mugs haven't.

Imagine being what is colloquially known as a tit-man and hearing some lusted-after siren declare to you in huskily-lustful tones, 'I'm a GG-mug'...it just wouldn't have the same impact.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Famous Mortimer on July 20, 2021, 02:08:15 PM
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51323013097_297c6700b9_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Jittlebags on July 20, 2021, 03:13:57 PM
From listening to the British Open I gather that a cup is something to do with a golf course, wehereas a mug is what Danny Dyer calls The Wall.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: mippy on July 20, 2021, 04:28:56 PM
Cups have been adopted as a generally recognised term for those bits in bras that do the actual boulder-holding. Mugs haven't.

Imagine being what is colloquially known as a tit-man and hearing some lusted-after siren declare to you in huskily-lustful tones, 'I'm a GG-mug'...it just wouldn't have the same impact.

The coupe glass was designed, apparently, after one of Marie Antoinette's royal lady lumps, so give it a few centuries.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 20, 2021, 05:15:20 PM
I bet Lawrence is grateful we've forgotten him.

EDIT: he's started posting on YouTube again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ReUHpql6b8
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 20, 2021, 06:34:17 PM
Oh, fine. Can we talk some more about tea, cups, and mugs? All far more interesting topics.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 20, 2021, 07:50:06 PM
I bet Lawrence is grateful we've forgotten him.

EDIT: he's started posting on YouTube again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ReUHpql6b8

Do you think I will be killed if I respond negatively to some of those comments?

Quote
Vase of Flowers
5 hours ago
Andrew is the funniest guy in Britain these days. And has been for ages.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 20, 2021, 07:54:21 PM
Funny haha or funny weird?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 20, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
Funny haha or funny weird?

I replied and also asked AL directly what tea he likes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Chedney Honks on July 20, 2021, 08:44:16 PM
I recommend Tie Guan Yin oolong tea for a mineral, buttery, orchid aroma and flavour.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 20, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
Quote
I replied and also asked AL directly what tea he likes.

Good on yer, Blodders.

I did watch that YouTube video out of a latent masochistic streak: what a pointless and mean-spirited (and, most importantly, NOT FUNNY) waste of 2 minutes. You do get the feeling that he's desperately wanting to say 'Harry is shite because he's married to a n**ger' but knows that'll get him booted off YouTube in a flash. So instead, he just settles for mocking a man forced to walk besides his Mum's coffin in the full glare of the World's media at the age of 12 for having mental health issues (oh, and being rich through no fault of his own).

The main problem that I have with Lawrence is that, despite the fervent protestations of his unquestioning acolytes, he's just not funny. Ever. And even his venom and spite is toothless and bland. Who but an undemanding moron could champion this?

Anyway. Enough of talking about such wastes of skin. Can I just say that I've always liked Lapsang Souchang? Even if, to me, it smells oddly like cooked bacon. And, to at least one friend of mine, like a dirty ashtray. Earl Grey is nice but a bit wimpy, really, so perfectly suited to Jean-Luc Picard. Chinese green/gunpowder tea is also good stuff, but, in the end, as long as you like the stuff, don't pay too much heed to the tea snobs. If you prefer Yorkshire Tea or PG Tips, fair play to you. Or even Ty-Phoo, but that's surprisingly decent, even if the only place that I know that sells it outside of websites is the Bristol Sweet Mart.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: amateur on July 20, 2021, 10:44:43 PM
Lady Grey is quite nice, packs a more citrus punch.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 20, 2021, 10:44:51 PM
Im getting a lot of likes for my mock support of AL, harking back to the old days of Manning and Chubby Brown in working mens clubs. Astonishing

I can well imagine its this sort of thing that could turn a man like AL to do it for real
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 20, 2021, 11:05:18 PM
Remember that if you do tell want to tell Andrew what a legend he is and how you're glad the snowflakes aren't keeping him silenced you must address him as "mate", "my old son" or most commonly "Sir".
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: SpiderChrist on July 21, 2021, 06:58:10 AM
There used to be a place near me that offered a choice of over a hundred different teas. Wonder if AL ever went there? Assam Gentleman was always my choice (black, one sugar). Sadly closed down during some pandemic or other.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 21, 2021, 07:04:00 AM
Oof, my comment has really brought out the scum. I feel unclean.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on July 21, 2021, 08:00:59 AM
I like how Lozzo's scathing, savagely satirical and impressively voiced ( The same voice he could use if he was doing a bit in character as Margaret Thatcher or Miss Jones from " Rising Damp") performance has got CABbers defending members of the Royal Family.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 21, 2021, 03:06:08 PM
He's less interesting than a decent cup, or mug, of tea. And less funny as well.

Mmmmmm. TEA.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: thenoise on July 22, 2021, 12:35:29 AM
I like how Lozzo's scathing, savagely satirical and impressively voiced ( The same voice he could use if he was doing a bit in character as Margaret Thatcher or Miss Jones from " Rising Damp") performance has got CABbers defending members of the Royal Family.

Ha, yeah steady on CT. Let's not start pretending Harry is a real human being.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 24, 2021, 09:12:36 PM
 https://youtu.be/V0J5Hf_z8lw (https://youtu.be/V0J5Hf_z8lw)

Corker.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on July 24, 2021, 09:43:08 PM
https://youtu.be/V0J5Hf_z8lw (https://youtu.be/V0J5Hf_z8lw)

Corker.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU AT PM'S QUESTION TIME THEY WOULD ALL BE TERRIFIED !!!!

Going through  the comments under that Corker of a performance makes for interesting reading; and when I say " interesting", I mean " intensely depressing", of course.
Over 4000 likes, all of these comments extolling his comedy chops, his obvious intelligence, his satirical articulacy and perspicacity,, etc. and quite a few advising him to get a job with GB news and not let those lefty snowflake types get him down.I think it was McCarthy who once sang " They are many, we are few/ There's not much that we can do".
Mind you, his tour's been cancelled and he's been dropped by his management, so...
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 24, 2021, 10:11:35 PM
He seems very prescient about his likely future career options in the title of this recent one.  I have to laugh at his purported working-class bloke character quoting the classical Roman poet Juvenal at 0.55 to 1.02!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWEeyjF5MJU
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: sevendaughters on July 24, 2021, 10:14:24 PM
positive bot replies too, seen it before, depresso
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 24, 2021, 10:23:28 PM
Communism you say?

Fascism you and your ilk voted for gleefully, more like.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 24, 2021, 10:26:47 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWEeyjF5MJU

His eyes look so weird and dead in this one.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mike Upchat on July 25, 2021, 08:26:33 AM
His eyes look so weird and dead in this one.

It's so they match with his brain.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: SpiderChrist on July 25, 2021, 09:32:54 AM
Where’s the jokes, Lawrence? I stopped just over a minute in because there were no jokes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: rue the polywhirl on July 25, 2021, 12:06:22 PM
I’ve not really come across Build Back Better before. I think I prefer the Sir Mix-A-Lot strategy of Build Better Back to lift ourselves out of Covid-induced misery.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 25, 2021, 01:18:17 PM
Quote
I think it was McCarthy who once sang " They are many, we are few/ There's not much that we can do".

But then again, 'empty vessels make the most noise'. Not to mention, as someone else already has, that most of his ardent supporters are almost certainly bots.

'Gideon Micropenis...' Fuck's sake, man. Sort yourself out.

Anyway. Orange Pekoe tea. This frightfully posh-sounding brew is, in fact, a good honest cup - or mug - of tea. Full-flavoured and robust, it'll blow the cobwebs out of your beard in the morning and no mistake. And, I repeat, it's not some elitist lah-di-dah tea.

I mean, look. You can even get it from Tetley's now.

(https://i5.walmartimages.ca/images/Enlarge/6_r/ev1/999999-5717406216_rev1.jpg)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 25, 2021, 01:33:06 PM
HEYHO ITS ME BARRY FUCKSALOT A HIIIILARIOUS NEW COMEDY CHARACTER FROM THE CANCELLED COMEDIAN WITH WEIRDLY DILATED PUPILS
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 25, 2021, 01:38:37 PM
Quote
WEIRDLY DILATED PUPILS

Lmao, I hadn't considered til now that this may be down to what CM once called "showbiz flu."
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on July 25, 2021, 02:19:58 PM
Surely all kinds of tea are somewhat exotic to Britain because it doesn't grow in Europe
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Jock Macabre on July 25, 2021, 02:21:06 PM
It's like he's taken the Stewart Lee line "I'm not interested in laughs, I prefer applause" completely at face value and used that as an aspirational model for his career. He started out as a reasonably successful comedian, so presumably he has a reasonably tuned-in idea of what is funny, so these videos he does are particularly bizarre. He can't be watching these back and finding anything that, comedically, he is proud of. There's nothing there. He just points a camera toward the dullest wall in recorded history, puts on a daft working-class accent, which if I was a character in Mary Poppins I'd be profoundly offended by, adopts an insipid comedy name with a swear in so lol and blurts out all the ill informed, quasi-antiestablishment rhubarb he also thinks 'out of character'.
He must know it's absolute pap, right? He has to be acutely aware that this is the dying embers of his career, that the demographic he's snivvellingly pandering don't actually want jokes so much as dull-witted bile.

On a plus note, we never really had substantial response to those wee pricks who moan that comedy is too left-wing nowadays. Now there's plenty of documented examples of what a tedious joy vacuum modern right-wing 'comedy' is.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 25, 2021, 02:53:07 PM
It's like he's taken the Stewart Lee line "I'm not interested in laughs, I prefer applause" completely at face value and used that as an aspirational model for his career. He started out as a reasonably successful comedian, so presumably he has a reasonably tuned-in idea of what is funny, so these videos he does are particularly bizarre. He can't be watching these back and finding anything that, comedically, he is proud of. There's nothing there. He just points a camera toward the dullest wall in recorded history, puts on a daft working-class accent, which if I was a character in Mary Poppins I'd be profoundly offended by, adopts an insipid comedy name with a swear in so lol and blurts out all the ill informed, quasi-antiestablishment rhubarb he also thinks 'out of character'.
He must know it's absolute pap, right? He has to be acutely aware that this is the dying embers of his career, that the demographic he's snivvellingly pandering don't actually want jokes so much as dull-witted bile.

On a plus note, we never really had substantial response to those wee pricks who moan that comedy is too left-wing nowadays. Now there's plenty of documented examples of what a tedious joy vacuum modern right-wing 'comedy' is.

It's just 'a bit of ban-tah' as Keith Cuntabout unfailingly informs us on his every appearance.  I'm not so sure what Professor Gideon Micropenis's excuse is.  Higher-level academics aren't noted for their bantz.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JaDanketies on July 25, 2021, 02:59:58 PM
Reminds me of Pat Condell. I see Pat is now a COVID-denier like all good rationalists
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 25, 2021, 04:27:50 PM
Here's a new character by him: BBC Director of Marxist Cuntwaffle, Sebastian Fatsalary.  Makes a slight change from Cuntabout and Micropenis, at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IptKA8VUU
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on July 25, 2021, 04:37:54 PM
Just over 50k subscribers.

One of the comments below the video made me laugh

"Speaking as someone who has been both patronised and then ignored by the BBC over cancelling a popular tv drama series (that doesn't adhere to their woke dystopian ethos) this is spot on"

"What series?"

"Holby City"

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 25, 2021, 04:41:23 PM
Looking forward to CARL COCKWOMBLE next the woke oh i dont know... chef
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: BlodwynPig on July 25, 2021, 04:42:58 PM
Here's a new character by him: BBC Director of Marxist Cuntwaffle, Sebastian Fatsalary.  Makes a slight change from Cuntabout and Micropenis, at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IptKA8VUU

"at least" leaves the door open for an excuse for this sort of thing.

This one seems to indicate he's starting to flail and tire. Very low energy. Maybe on an amphetamine comedown.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Mr Banlon on July 25, 2021, 05:01:23 PM
Lmao, I hadn't considered til now that this may be down to what CM once called "showbiz flu."
I hope his come-downs are fucking unbearable.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 25, 2021, 05:53:50 PM
I hope they're fucking terminal. And that no one even makes him a nice cup of tea before he pops his clogs.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Thursday on July 25, 2021, 05:58:23 PM
HEYHO ITS ME BARRY FUCKSALOT A HIIIILARIOUS NEW COMEDY CHARACTER FROM THE CANCELLED COMEDIAN WITH WEIRDLY DILATED PUPILS

I was trying to work out what he reminded me of, and it's an angry version of this.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv88%2FLeaveMeAlone00%2Fmrburns.png)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 25, 2021, 08:39:44 PM
This is the place to come for all your links to Andrew Lawrence YouTube videos needs.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on July 25, 2021, 08:44:26 PM
This is the place to come for all your links to Andrew Lawrence YouTube videos needs.

Yeah, it's a comedy discussion forum.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on July 25, 2021, 08:52:31 PM
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Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on July 25, 2021, 09:07:14 PM
I was trying to work out what he reminded me of, and it's an angry version of this.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv88%2FLeaveMeAlone00%2Fmrburns.png)

i bring you LARRY WANKPUFFIN
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Tokyo van Ramming on July 25, 2021, 09:41:40 PM
This is the place to come for all your links to Andrew Lawrence YouTube videos needs.

I don't know how anyone gets more than a few seconds into this diarrhoea, but if you're the first here to witness, please spare the cunt a few views by ripping the videos and putting them on Dropbox or something.

Clicking on his channel makes my stomach poo in itself. I know it's a bit of work but I'm sure you'll agree it's for the greater good. Unless...
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on July 26, 2021, 12:05:49 AM
Is there a chance he could salvage a career as a Carrot Top tribute act?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on July 26, 2021, 12:44:23 PM
He'd need a sense of humour first.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Jake Thingray on July 26, 2021, 01:04:51 PM
Leaving his reactionary views out of it, Lawrence's silly names and pathetic "characters" in these really do put him on the same level as long-running CaB favourite Clare Harrison, latterly Clare Harrison McCartney.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ajsmith2 on July 26, 2021, 02:55:23 PM
His video reacting to Bill Cosby's release has to be among his most monumentally dumb. It's not a satire of anything real, as I can guarantee you there's no one in this or any other reality who has this take on it. Deep down AL must know this too, but ya gotta pump out the daily content and invent something to satirize when's there's no clearly defined right wing attack line (compare this to say, Ben Garrison who jumped the other way on this one, mentioining how lying feminists cancelled Cosby).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN07FnwU2s

On the other hand, FWIW, while no one here will be impressed by it as it's nothing special, by the same token few would be in disagreement with his Keir Starmer take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFN07FnwU2s
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on July 27, 2021, 08:30:08 PM
Someone posted this fifteen-year-old radio show of his earlier.  Having just listened again, I've found it's grown on me a little, though perhaps it's just the contrast with the naffness of his contemporary YouTube videos, plus I like the background and interlude music in the old show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDSagYgc84c
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on August 10, 2021, 07:39:33 PM
He's recently apologised for white male privilege.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FZLkda7mhA
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Excellent_Biscuits on August 10, 2021, 08:06:27 PM
Hahaha he tried to not do that weird over enunciating thing he does all the time but he couldn't do it.

Delete it Andrew. Start again.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lfbarfe on September 01, 2021, 12:10:46 AM
Here's a new character by him: BBC Director of Marxist Cuntwaffle, Sebastian Fatsalary.  Makes a slight change from Cuntabout and Micropenis, at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3IptKA8VUU

I'm watching these videos and laughing, but not for the intended reasons. They are all stupendously bad and desperate. What happened? When he started out, people said he was a good comic with decent technique. Where's it gone? Even if the material's shit, he can redeem himself with the delivery. But he doesn't.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 01, 2021, 10:19:35 AM
When the politics comes before the comedy, when it's the reason for the comedy, that's when you have problems.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on September 09, 2021, 06:50:56 PM
He's gone full-on BNP turn-'em-back-at-the-borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzOSf0gGKEI&list=UU876yBInncBfsiknqMdHvuA
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 09, 2021, 07:03:29 PM
Youtube really will host any old hateful shit, won't they? Reported it but not sure how much good just me reporting it will do.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 07:20:54 PM
Completely forgot about this cunt
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: bgmnts on September 09, 2021, 07:31:22 PM
Something about this lad, he just needs a kicking.

Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Indomitable Spirit on September 09, 2021, 07:52:43 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/3cD7qZ6/asasdasdsadd.png)

Quote from:  Dr Loomis
I met this... blank, pale, emotionless face, and... the blackest eyes - the Devil's eyes.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on September 09, 2021, 08:10:10 PM
Or, along similar lines... "And the thing about a shark is he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes..."
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Ballad of Ballard Berkley on September 09, 2021, 08:11:55 PM
It's not nice to make fun of people's physical appearance, I know, but Lawrence is a toxic puddle of shit, so fuck 'im.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: jobotic on September 09, 2021, 08:12:33 PM
He's gone full-on BNP turn-'em-back-at-the-borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzOSf0gGKEI&list=UU876yBInncBfsiknqMdHvuA

I won't be watching a second of this but I bet it's brave, hilarious, refreshing and bound to make the wokeratis angry. Well done Sir!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 08:18:39 PM
I still dont understand the conceit behind the character of "Keith Cuntabout". He seems to be a caricature of a "love me family ate foregners" yet that is precisely who he appeals to and everyone in the commments agrees with him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Barry Admin on September 09, 2021, 08:27:22 PM
The sheer lack of fucking effort is astounding. Still doing two minute bits standing in front of the same wall, absolutely no thought given to the presentation at all, ever.

That video has him doing "the French are lazy and smell" material. His commenters seem full fash:

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1Td25fz/IMG-20210909-202424.jpg)

Quote from: wiki
The Kalergi Plan (Italian: Piano Kalergi), or sometimes called the Coudenhove-Kalergi Conspiracy, is a far-right, anti-semitic, white nationalist conspiracy theory, which states that a plot to mix white Europeans with other races via immigration was constructed by Austrian-Japanese politician Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi and promoted in aristocratic European social circles
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on September 09, 2021, 09:44:36 PM
Has anybody ever seen Andrew and George Ezra together in the same room?

Either way, they're both cunts.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bernice on September 09, 2021, 09:56:34 PM
Hello it's me, Farty Nipplehead-Plopsley. I hate brown people and wops.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on September 09, 2021, 10:00:42 PM
Ello evvrybody it's me, Bring Back Apartheid Benny.

Same background, shirt and voice as every other video except the ones where he's a tweed-clad nerd.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on September 10, 2021, 04:53:59 AM
Has anybody ever seen Andrew and George Ezra together in the same room?

Either way, they're both cunts.

At least Ezra produces good music.  Has Lawrence ever done anything good?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on September 10, 2021, 04:56:07 AM
George Ezra

Who?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 10, 2021, 05:22:19 AM
The fact he didn’t give his Scottish ‘character’ a lazily on the nose name (or any name at all) irritates my OCD. May I suggest Haggis McShitey?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on September 10, 2021, 06:24:32 AM
^ wait, did he do a Scottish accent too? Lad showing some versatility, there.


He's still a horrible, toxic cunt, orbviously.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 10, 2021, 08:38:06 AM
^ wait, did he do a Scottish accent too? Lad showing some versatility, there.


He's still a horrible, toxic cunt, orbviously.

He did. Here ya go, Andrew, have another few views on stupid old me. https://youtu.be/K02de943q2U
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bernice on September 10, 2021, 09:24:37 AM
Awright me old muckers, Clitoris Butternut-Fucksley 'ere! We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: phantom_power on September 10, 2021, 10:02:36 AM
He looks like the mid-development phase of a clone in a bad sci-fi film
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on September 10, 2021, 10:27:11 AM
Morning me old fucksticks, it's me Andy Larry! I say things I believe in a different voice so if any libtards call me out, I can say it's satire. But we know the score don't we ;-) BOSH!
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on October 01, 2021, 10:51:33 PM
Here’s his classic comedy character Peter Pisspot from Twat Valley Police blaming equality and diversity training, BLM and the M25 protestors (among others) for Wayne Couzens: https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1443871716103671816

Despicable cunt.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: idunnosomename on October 01, 2021, 11:02:36 PM
why is this unfunny shark-eyed cunt back on twitter
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Bennett Brauer on October 01, 2021, 11:34:29 PM
Police Act 1996
c.16 Part V - Offences - Section 90

Impersonation, etc.

(1) Any person who with intent to deceive impersonates a member of a police force or special constable, or makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he is such a member or constable, shall be guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months or to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or to both, even if it's just a white shirt with two wonky imitation epaulettes and a piece of paper saying 'POLICE' stuck to the front and shaded in felt tip.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on October 02, 2021, 01:10:23 AM
Here’s his classic comedy character Peter Pisspot from Twat Valley Police blaming equality and diversity training, BLM and the M25 protestors (among others) for Wayne Couzens: https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1443871716103671816

Despicable cunt.

What is he hoping to achieve with this? Does he even know himself?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on October 02, 2021, 01:19:19 AM
I think he knows so many people hate him that he sees his own existence as an act of strength and defiance. “Think I’m going away do you? Not a chance you snowflaaaakes. In fact I’m going to be worse than ever!”

That and trying to squeeze Patreon money out of his hate-tank followers.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: keir on October 02, 2021, 01:48:36 AM
Here’s his classic comedy character Peter Pisspot from Twat Valley Police blaming equality and diversity training, BLM and the M25 protestors (among others) for Wayne Couzens: https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1443871716103671816

Despicable cunt.

I see he's blocked me, the snowflake. Can't remember if I goaded him or not, it's been a long time since I thought of him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Catalogue Trousers on October 02, 2021, 03:32:48 AM
At least Ezra produces good music.  Has Lawrence ever done anything good?

For Shotgun alone, Ezra deserves to be skinned and thrown in a salt mine. But yeah, his worth to the human race in comparison to Lawrence is almost infinite.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on October 02, 2021, 06:30:35 AM
He calls his lefty academic character Gideon Micropenis.  Wouldn't that be better as a name for a character who acts macho or is really sexist or arrogant about his alleged prowess with women?
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Cuellar on October 02, 2021, 03:17:26 PM
Oh who fucking cares
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Pink Gregory on October 02, 2021, 03:21:38 PM
It could be an effective satire of a news-obsessed right wing grifter standup doing 'topical' comedy except it's 100% genuine

Quite why anyone would go to him when you can just hear these opinions unvarnished on talksport is anyone's guess
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on October 02, 2021, 03:32:56 PM
Here’s his classic comedy character Peter Pisspot from Twat Valley Police blaming equality and diversity training, BLM and the M25 protestors (among others) for Wayne Couzens: https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1443871716103671816

Despicable cunt.

Wonder how low he will sink with his "comedy creations". There's probably a way to go if he can shout "It wasn't me, it was Keith Cunt/Peter Pisspot/John Fuckwit" when people criticise him.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: frajer on October 02, 2021, 03:40:52 PM
He calls his lefty academic character Gideon Micropenis.  Wouldn't that be better as a name for a character who acts macho or is really sexist or arrogant about his alleged prowess with women?

You’re not getting the subtleties. He’s a nerd with a small penis.

Imagine a well-endowed nerd. Or a jock with a chode. It just can’t be done. The comments section below the line would be pure bafflement. No, Lawrence has nailed this yet again.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: batwings on October 02, 2021, 04:48:42 PM
His weird black-eyed gaze reminds me of the CIA director in Nixon.

https://youtu.be/JWRVyaKnGcA?t=551 (https://youtu.be/JWRVyaKnGcA?t=551)
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Phoenix Lazarus on October 02, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
For Shotgun alone, Ezra deserves to be skinned and thrown in a salt mine.

That's a more subversive song that at first appears.  It seems to be just about being on a long drive or ride to some-or-other destination - but "we've got two in the front; two in the back" is about gang-rape.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Better Midlands on October 02, 2021, 07:32:31 PM
His weird black-eyed gaze

(https://i.imgur.com/Gxs0sVS.jpg)

He has no soul.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: JamesTC on October 02, 2021, 07:34:53 PM
He looks like somebody has photoshopped a babies face onto his.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: badaids on October 02, 2021, 07:38:39 PM
His weird black-eyed gaze reminds me of the CIA director in Nixon.

https://youtu.be/JWRVyaKnGcA?t=551 (https://youtu.be/JWRVyaKnGcA?t=551)

I'm not clicking on that it shit me up the first time I ever saw it, couldn't work out if I had imagined it or not.
Title: Re: Andrew Lawrence
Post by: Gurke and Hare on October 02, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
Wonder how low he will sink with his "comedy creations". There's probably a way to go if he can shout "It wasn't me, it was Keith Cunt/Peter Pisspot/John Fuckwit" when people criticise him.

I assume that's the idea, but it doesn't work does it? The obvious follow-up question is "So these aren't your actual views then?" and he can't say that they aren't because he has to sustain the grift.