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Title: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 05, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
Not sure whether to post this here or Oscillations, but it IS about the 'rona. What's happening with live music now? I've got tickets booked for the Manics later this year and a couple of Space gigs, and as I've said elsewhere, Space did one in Liverpool (no, I didn't go, I forgot it was on) where their singer got in trouble with security for hi-fiving the front row and security had to keep telling fans to get away from the stage. But most of the gigs I've booked tickets for have been moved to autumn/winter. Are they going ahead from 19th July? Is it going to be large venues only or smaller ones first?
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: bomb_dog on July 06, 2021, 07:33:22 AM
At this stage, fuck knows.
I gambled a month or so ago and got a ticket to see AA Williams for a seated show in Bristol in September, and even though I’m double jabbed I’m already thinking it’s a bad idea, even if I went masked up.

September is a very long way away at the moment. Just hold tight and stay safe for the moment, I think.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: DrGreggles on July 06, 2021, 09:26:43 AM
I have so many tickets for gigs that have been cancelled, rescheduled and cancelled again.
Some have been refunded, some re-rescheduled, and some still pending updates.
I've totally lost track of them, so I'm bound to miss one at some point.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: checkoutgirl on July 06, 2021, 09:48:54 AM
I got a ticket for an American ambient musician called William Basinski in a church in Mount St Dublin in November. I've never heard anything he's done and only been jabbed once but it's in a church and it's 4 months away and it's only 20 quid so fingers crossed. I think people are crying out for a gig, any gig, anywhere by almost anyone and might go a bit mental when they get there.

Even out and about town I find myself getting very anxious and put on my mask when I see more than a few people around me and that's outdoors. Fuck knows how I'll get on indoors at a gig. I definitely fear people now and I feel it might take years for that to go away. All people are now dangerous disease carriers to me for the foreseeable future.

Bit sad.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 06, 2021, 10:10:50 AM

Live music is what I've missed the most for the last 16 months. I had tickets for Sparks, Goldfrapp, Echo And The Bunnymen, Marc Almond - All cancelled and postponed until 2022 (I bet Almond's been cancelled the dirty old bollocks - I BET HE FUCKING HAS!).

There's been live music events in my town over the last two months, but they're all obviously seated and limited numbers. A friend gave me tickets to see a local band play their seated and socially distanced album launch show. The band were good but there was no sense of excitement - About 150 people, spread out on spaced out tables in a venue with a capacity of about 3000 standing. I've always fucking loathed seated gigs. There's no energy or atmosphere. The best gigs are when the audience is crammed shoulder to shoulder in a sweaty venue.

If seated gigs is the future of live mucic then I'm not going to bother going. It's like watching a cut for TV, family friendly version of Boogie Nights. If it means watching it with all the sex, drugs, swearing and violence removed, it's not Boogie Nights.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 06, 2021, 11:24:06 AM
I hate seated gigs too, Tori Amos excepted because she always does them so I'm kind of used to it (although you do get hardcore fans rushing the stage at the end). I've been to seated Space gigs and it's a weird experience - I think they got banned from the Epstein Theatre because they invited the audience onstage for Female of the Species (which they did at most of the venues on that tour) and barely anyone sat down. And one time I got up to dance at a Manics gig when I was in a seated area and the woman behind me poked me in the back and shouted at me to sit down. At least for the singles/well-known songs, most people in the seated bits stand up anyway, but I do find it limiting and I hate not being able to dance, especially if it's someone like Sleater-Kinney or the Manics.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SpiderChrist on July 06, 2021, 11:33:16 AM
Got a ticket for Gruff Rhys in October and one for GYBE! in January. Also supposed to be playing a gig at the end of October and there's talk of another possibly before that.

Can't say that my current state of mind means I'm looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: bgmnts on July 06, 2021, 11:35:03 AM
How do you feel not totally overwhelmed and swallowed up by a mass of people at any sort of event like a gig? Too many people yo.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: DrGreggles on July 06, 2021, 12:08:12 PM
Got a ticket for Gruff Rhys in October

Likewise. Looks like being my first one.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: checkoutgirl on July 06, 2021, 12:15:36 PM
Even if everything goes well I imagine social distancing is going to be here for years to come, whether government mandated or just personal safety, which doesn't fit well with live music. It certainly doesn't suit any guitar based music and that's leaving aside the general anxiety of catching the bug or trying to wear a mask and drink beer. It's shite all round.

I hope getting the second jab will mitigate some of these feelings of anxiety but I can't shake the thought of lying in hospital about to die and then asking myself if seeing Suggs on stage was worth a horrible, slow, painful death with no family around.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 06, 2021, 12:17:41 PM
How do you feel not totally overwhelmed and swallowed up by a mass of people at any sort of event like a gig? Too many people yo.

I used to when I was younger and actually blacked out on a few occasions at gigs and a festival and came to by the side of the stage with no memory of how I got there but it's all part of the experience. Got used to as I got older.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on July 07, 2021, 07:06:30 PM
I went to a socially distanced one in early June.

I had to self isolate for a week in mid June.

:sadface:
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Pinball on July 07, 2021, 11:23:42 PM
Watch it from space. It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on July 08, 2021, 12:41:56 AM
How do you feel not totally overwhelmed and swallowed up by a mass of people at any sort of event like a gig? Too many people yo.

As a shortarse I've definitely had moments of feeling a bit claustrophobic - when you're in a tightly packed crowd and everyone's at least a head taller than you there's nothing remotely approaching fresh air, just a fug of armpits and stale Carling, plus there's the simple fact that you can't see shit. I also once got picked up by a stranger and unceremoniously passed over his head to crowdsurf, which was fun until someone dropped me about 10 seconds later. However if there's a choice between standing or seated tickets the majority of the time I'll go for standing, being in crowds/large groups of people don't bother me in itself and right now I miss it like fuck.

I've had a few booked gigs roll over multiple times now, nothing until next summer as it stands, so god knows. My brother's band recently announced a European tour early next year, I'm stoked for them but, I hate to say it, that feels pretty fucking ambitious right now. I miss live music so so much and I'm heartbroken that it's yet another area the future of which is being compromised largely by the utter incompetency and sheer disdain being dished out by them odious cunts in charge.

Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 09, 2021, 03:41:24 PM

Two venues in my town have cancelled gigs scheduled for July due to staff members testing positive for COVID. Which is dispiriting as fuck.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 15, 2021, 01:39:08 AM
I’m going to see Bob Vylan at the end of the month. I’m sure this will bite me in the arse.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Dirty Boy on July 15, 2021, 04:56:11 PM
I'd almost forgotten i was meant to be seeing Faith No More last year. It's set for next June now, but we'll probably all be dead by then. Typical.

I’m going to see Bob Vylan at the end of the month. I’m sure this will bite me in the arse.
He might, he's looking a bit feral.
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Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: boki on July 15, 2021, 05:05:59 PM
I’m going to see Bob Vylan at the end of the month. I’m sure this will bite me in the arse.
I'm going to the Leicester gig next month.  I await your lurgy with unabated breath.

I'm also booked to go and see Mike Vennart and chums play Black Sabbath's Paranoid album in full in a pub in Todmorden the weekend after that, so it really is imperative that I don't die[1]
 1. most likely of kidney failure the way this summer's going
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: canadagoose on July 15, 2021, 05:49:37 PM
I'm going to see Marina and the Pet Shop Boys next year. It'll be weird, everyone being distanced. I wish they had seats though, I'm going to have to bring a stick to lean on.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on July 15, 2021, 05:57:16 PM
I'd almost forgotten i was meant to be seeing Faith No More last year. It's set for next June now, but we'll probably all be dead by then. Typical.

Same. I was 30 when I booked tickets, at a minimum I'll be 33 (and possibly also dead) if/when it goes ahead. Any event booked that far back now occupies a weird Schrödinger's Cat-like limbo in my head, I can see the rescheduled dates but I don't really believe it's going to happen. Especially anything involving acts from outside the UK.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: WhoMe on July 15, 2021, 08:54:13 PM
I got a ticket for an American ambient musician called William Basinski in a church in Mount St Dublin in November.

For what it's worth, William Basinski was one of the last gigs I went to pre-Covid. It was a church called the Round Chapel in Hackney, and it was bloody magic. If you're 50/50 by the time it comes around, I don't think you'd regret seeing him.
Channel One vs Iration Steppas is the night before my second jab in August. Going to go masked up but if it feels off prob won't stick around. Just happy to give Channel One some money really. 
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: WhoMe on July 15, 2021, 08:56:41 PM
Double post..
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on July 15, 2021, 10:04:28 PM
For what it's worth, William Basinski was one of the last gigs I went to pre-Covid. It was a church called the Round Chapel in Hackney, and it was bloody magic.

Ah, that was the site of my last pre-COVID gig too (aside from a couple I volunteered at), different gig though (Colin Stetson). It's a lovely venue.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: non capisco on July 15, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
My first gig since Carly Rae Jepsen in February 2020 will be going to see my friend Paul Mosley next month. His stuff's quite gentle and folky but I'm still gonna take loads of pingers and start a mosh pit. 
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: non capisco on July 15, 2021, 10:13:15 PM
I'm not really going to do that, Paul, if you're reading this.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: non capisco on July 15, 2021, 10:14:45 PM
I might though.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: boki on July 16, 2021, 04:29:53 PM
I think you should.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on July 18, 2021, 01:39:18 PM
See Jeff Mills playing Fabric in September, was gonna see him just before the pandemic so I'm def still interested but with the numbers atm... seems unlikely I'll go.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: scarecrow on July 21, 2021, 04:29:29 PM
Nick Cave has just announced a full capacity UK theatre tour in September, like some kind of cunt.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on July 21, 2021, 08:32:20 PM
There's some bits that have rolled over and might actually happen now but I don't really want to go to them and quite likely may not. Especially if covid passports get implemented in some sort of dodgy electronic privacy-invading way.

I've also managed to book something that has clashed with a rollover because I'm an idiot.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: The Mollusk on July 22, 2021, 08:37:29 AM
Nick Cave has just announced a full capacity UK theatre tour in September, like some kind of cunt.

Both your comment and the tour announcement made me laugh. Considering the Bad Seeds shows from last year got rescheduled (twice, I think?) and then cancelled, giving the very valid reason that it was unreasonable to keep moving the date when they have to continually pay to book so many staff for such a big event, I find it baffling that they think something of this scale will go ahead without issue.

I’ve got tickets for Black Midi in November, it’s a seated gig but the way things are going there’s every chance it’ll be rescheduled. It’s worth having tickets though since I’m ready to get back into gigs as soon as things are safe enough.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Dusty Substance on July 24, 2021, 04:04:45 PM
even if I went masked up.

Each to their own but I can not begin to imagine wearing a mask at a proper gig. Perhaps if it was a seated show but then I fucking hate seated gigs.

The idea of standing in a sweaty crowded venue while wearing a mask, having to remove it every time I swig from my overly priced drink is horrifying.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 24, 2021, 09:13:40 PM
The gig I'm going to is going to be in a small venue and it's going to be hot as balls. I somehow don't think people will be masked up.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: imitationleather on July 25, 2021, 12:09:36 PM
I'm going to a nightclub on 7th August.

It had to happen eventually.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Pink Gregory on July 25, 2021, 01:18:00 PM
I'd wear a mask at all future shows if it be could guaranteed to block the one inevitable dropped gut that ruins the whole experience.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 31, 2021, 02:39:05 AM
Holy fucking balls have I missed gigs. It was short, but worth it and I bumped into a couple of friends I hadn’t seen in ages after.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: The Mollusk on July 31, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
I was meant to be getting reacquainted with my sorely missed companion THE GIG next week - watching a fucking oompah band at a German beer hall - but my mate who I was going with has dropped out so I can’t be arsed now. Not exactly the sort of gig you’d ever think “yeah fuck it I’ll go on my own, it’s still live music!” when you’re crammed in on those big long bench tables surrounding by knobheads drinking steins. Also it’s an oompah band. There’s zero novelty to seeing that on your own. Next gig’s in October, two death metal bands at Camden Underworld which is MUCH more like it.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: imitationleather on July 31, 2021, 07:33:59 PM
Get yourself up to Newcastle on Friday, mate. We're going clubbing.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on July 31, 2021, 07:56:15 PM
I booked a ticket for Beabadoobee today, she's doing the Ritz (as in the Manchester club-turned-gig venue with the wobbly dancefloor). Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on August 01, 2021, 11:50:48 AM
Two mdma related deaths in the last week, one in Bristol and one in London. Meant to have been a whole bunch of overdoses and one especially strong set of pills in Bristol doing the rounds too, but even without that you'd have to imagine there'd be a lot of people getting dosages horrifically wrong at the moment.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SpiderChrist on August 01, 2021, 02:20:34 PM
A mate of mine posted footage from a gig he was at last night. Everyone leaping about, pissed up, no masks. I think they're all fucking mad. He's off to see Bob Vylan in a week or so, too.

I mean, I understand that people want and need to play gigs, and that punters want and need to go to gigs. I get it. But it all makes me incredibly anxious I have to confess. And I see acts like The Meffs and Bob Vylan announcing gigs and I'm thinking "what the fuck?".
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on August 01, 2021, 02:40:41 PM
People weren't wearing masks at the Bob Vylan gig I went to. True confessions time: for me, it's a calculated risk. And it's the same reason why I did the clinical trials. I see myself as expendable. I work from home and barely leave the house, so at least if I get the plague I won't be putting colleagues in danger. Plus I'm double jabbed.

I am going to take a COVID test before I visit my parents though. I'm fine so far, but you never know.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: DrGreggles on August 01, 2021, 03:03:11 PM
Went to Mischief Movie Night yesterday for their 'trilogy' day at Riverside Studios in Hammersmith.
It was fantastic - so good to see something live again.
Reduced capacity, everyone masked-up, test before entering - all felt very safe.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: mrpupkin on August 04, 2021, 11:20:18 AM
Two mdma related deaths in the last week, one in Bristol and one in London. Meant to have been a whole bunch of overdoses and one especially strong set of pills in Bristol doing the rounds too, but even without that you'd have to imagine there'd be a lot of people getting dosages horrifically wrong at the moment.

Same dodgy blue teslas in both cases, Bristol and Tottenham. Stay the F away
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on August 04, 2021, 12:25:25 PM
had the literal best time at a punk all dayer the other day baybeyyy. mandatory covid tests too which is a nice bit of reassurance re: getting smacked about a bit
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 04, 2021, 12:36:09 PM
Got ticket for Arab Strap at the Barrowlands, I don't think it's safe but may have chanced it but parents up (70/nearly 70) a few days later so that's that down the swannie.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on August 04, 2021, 12:52:39 PM
Same dodgy blue teslas in both cases, Bristol and Tottenham. Stay the F away
Was the Tottenham death confirmed to be them too? Seems fairly likely that after a year and a half of nothing there's gonna be a pretty sudden burst of overdoses from people prematurely double dropping (this is presumably why Fabric doesn't let 19 year olds in too?). Not sure on the validity of it but I remember reading last year that some key chemical for making mdma was banned in China and it means the quality of pills are gonna take a nose dive for a couple of year

True confessions time: for me, it's a calculated risk. And it's the same reason why I did the clinical trials. I see myself as expendable. I work from home and barely leave the house, so at least if I get the plague I won't be putting colleagues in danger. Plus I'm double jabbed.
That's fair enough imo, I'm in a similar situation and I struggle to see any issue. My winter bubble was probably a bigger risk personalliy (most people in the house in customer facing roles and me unvaccinated), and the wedding I had to go to last autumn was definitely worse than any gig I'd go to now.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on August 04, 2021, 07:03:37 PM
People weren't wearing masks at the Bob Vylan gig I went to. True confessions time: for me, it's a calculated risk. And it's the same reason why I did the clinical trials. I see myself as expendable. I work from home and barely leave the house, so at least if I get the plague I won't be putting colleagues in danger. Plus I'm double jabbed.

I am going to take a COVID test before I visit my parents though. I'm fine so far, but you never know.

That's completely fair (except for the bit about being expendable!). I went to a family event recently which included some older folk, and even though everyone there was double jabbed (as I am now), I took daily lateral flows and sacked off any socialising/going into the office etc. for the week or so running up to it (obviously I appreciate I have the privilege of being able to do so as I can work from home). To an extent, anything is a calculated risk, it sounds like you're being sensible about it.

Got a few relatives hoping to go along to see my brother's band play later in the year - the thought of being at an indoor gig at all, let alone with my not-young parents in tow, is sort of incomprehensible right now... but we'll see.

I was looking at the social media updates for this year's Lollapalooza (which required attendees to either provide proof of vaccination or show a negative test) and enjoying all the wtf Perry man you used to be cool, guess they even get the good ones in the end #sheeple #scamdemic comments underneath. Though I think a lot of them were disgruntled about the lineup too.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: chveik on August 04, 2021, 07:34:39 PM
I was looking at the social media updates for this year's Lollapalooza (which required attendees to either provide proof of vaccination or show a negative test) and enjoying all the wtf Perry man you used to be cool, guess they even get the good ones in the end #sheeple #scamdemic comments underneath. Though I think a lot of them were disgruntled about the lineup too.

and yet

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/02/lollapalooza-covid-cases-music-festival-experts

doesn't seem worth it given the line-up

there are very few bands for which i'd risk getting the vid
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on August 04, 2021, 07:46:51 PM
Hmm, yeah proof of a negative test 72 hours beforehand does seem a bit pointless if you're free to do whatever the fuck you want in the intervening 72 hours.

A few of the UK pilot music events did PCR 24 hours before, then lateral flow on the morning of the event starting, regardless of vaccine status (obviously meaning no staggered arrival at the campsite over the few days before the music starts - everyone has to arrive on the day it starts), which seems a bit safer, though I guess you could still pick something up on public transport en route... ahhh, I dunno.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on August 07, 2021, 10:03:54 AM
Just diversifying this thread to include other forms of live performance - last night I saw the excellent Operation Mincemeat (a musical about the eponymous grisly WWII mission - it initially opened in March 2020, but obviously had to close after a couple of weeks). It was amazing seeing theatre again, and I can't imagine how it must feel for the cast, band, FOH staff etc. but realistically I'm not sure how smaller theatres (especially basement/pub-type venues) will be able to open in a COVID-safe way re: ventilation, distancing, etc. - I suspect all of them are having to make some tough calls re: "calculated risk".

I'm in an amateur group which is due to be putting on a show later in the year, in the sweatiest and pokiest of pub venues conceivable, so dead soon I expect.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SweetPomPom on August 07, 2021, 10:21:09 AM
Have Gorillaz tix for Wednesday at the full capacity 20k O2...
Just getting in already feels like a nightmare.
Been to a couple of socially distanced and pilot things already but since 19th no mask rules are being enforced and very few are wearing them once in.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on August 07, 2021, 10:39:52 AM
A two-day covers band outdoor festival a week or so ago. It's outdoors, right, so it's safe. Fiancee did a COVID test afterwards after getting a gastrointestinal bug and she didn't have it. We're then going to the Macclesfield festival later this month. Apparently it's family-friendly. I should be as resilient as the vax is going to make me by that point, with it being well over a fortnight since I got vaxxed.

No indoor events until September, when I'm seeing Dua Lipe, Winterfylleth and Billie Marten - 3 bands! I'm not sure I would've bought a ticket for all three unless I was craving gigs. A lot to see, especially when you'll have a 23-month-old.

If I'm not going to get out now, when I'm double-vaxxed, then when am I going to get out? COVID might never go away.  Anyway the wee'un will definitely give us COVID before any gig does.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on August 16, 2021, 04:58:10 PM
Tickets for two shows in December, remarkably wishful thinking on my end that they'll go ahead okay tbh.


Thinking of going to some show this weekend and likely gonna be at one of the Printworks reopening shows too.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: GoblinAhFuckScary on August 16, 2021, 05:04:17 PM
been asked to play a show next month

honestly i'm more worried about not having a good set at the moment
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Pink Gregory on August 18, 2021, 08:10:33 AM
Only one jab so far but I'm going to a little bookshop reading tonight.

Going to stay masked up but hopefully a seated event at a bookshop = little activity so hopefully that's a bit safer.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SpiderChrist on August 18, 2021, 12:01:04 PM
been asked to play a show next month

honestly i'm more worried about not having a good set at the moment

Yeah I'm supposed to be playing a gig at the end of October and I'm already fretting about a) tune selection and b) dying of the covid
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SteveDave on August 20, 2021, 01:41:25 PM
This week I've seen Liam Gallagher and Primal Scream at the O2 and Pete Astor and David Callahan at the Victoria in Dalston.

I thought I'd be nervous but I was more concerned about how many photos of themselves people take at gigs these days (in relation to the O2 one)

I checked into both places on the NHS app and have so far not been pinged.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on August 23, 2021, 06:23:47 PM
Was at a club at the weekend, like 6 solid hours in a big sweaty blob of a few hundred people.

At this stage I think I might just do one weekly until either the end of september or things close up again, theres enough stuff that grabs my interest on at the moment that it'd be doable
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: bgmnts on August 23, 2021, 06:31:15 PM
Did anyone get fucked up with the hippies at Green Man the other day?
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: finnquark on August 23, 2021, 09:30:20 PM
We Out Here had a comically low amount of hand sanitizer.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: sardines on August 24, 2021, 06:12:29 AM
Did anyone get fucked up with the hippies at Green Man the other day?

Didn't go but have been watching this and End of the Road with interest as they seem the 'respectable' types of festival where people would follow guidance.
Doesn't seem to be the case. A lot of talk about everyone being happy to feel "normal" . No obligatory mask wearing apart from staff,no distancing or attempts at creating extra space.

Surprised by how many are sold on this false promise of normality. I get claustrophobic just thinking about packed tents and moshing.

In a couple of weeks you have Wide Awake, End of the Road and Manchester Psych Fest effectively rotating line ups. Will be interesting to see how many acts make it to the Sunday as I assume they have to test daily.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: idunnosomename on August 29, 2021, 11:30:59 PM
been to a couple of local shows this weekend, surreal to be back. massively pissed blokes (always blokes) wanting to be all shakey-hands slap-back with the rest of the crowd and the performers bit concerning.

not really bothered personally, maybe i just never liked that shit anyway because im a miserable bastard. well ok I like shaking hands with the band after a cracking set but its stupid to do it now. all of the bands politely refused of course (or pretended not to notice)

also back to not washing hands. the last gig I went to 9th March 2020, every hairy old cunt was scrubbing them like Lady Macbeth
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on August 30, 2021, 12:15:54 AM
I still sanitise mine.

Does anyone know if bands are letting fans backstage? I ask cos Space always do.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: idunnosomename on August 30, 2021, 12:26:00 AM
it's totally up to the band themselves now so they could if they wanted to. gonna see Blaze Bayley in a few weeks, he's usually a great egg in that he has a free meet 'n' greet after the show where anyone can get pics with him or get anything he's ever sung on signed (iron maiden, wolfsbane) but he's said he's not going to do any this year, and just make sure there's plenty of signed stuff for sale instead. which i think is totally right. it's finally the right time to start getting back to normal, but there should still be some precautions. certainly not shaking hands with dozens of hairy blokes.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on August 30, 2021, 08:30:33 AM
I did refuse to shake hands, or was it hug?, off a certain rather obscure popstarette, because I felt like I had a cold coming on, and they were really grateful.

Suppose a professional singers just off the plane and probably won't appreciate getting a dose of good honest UK lurgi, never mind the 'Vid. Unless they're drunk or off their gourd on drugs, I guess.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on August 30, 2021, 08:43:44 AM
Also I went to a socially distanced one a few months ago. I got pinged. 😞

Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Pranet on August 30, 2021, 10:28:33 AM
Didn't go but have been watching this and End of the Road with interest as they seem the 'respectable' types of festival where people would follow guidance.
Doesn't seem to be the case. A lot of talk about everyone being happy to feel "normal" . No obligatory mask wearing apart from staff,no distancing or attempts at creating extra space.

Surprised by how many are sold on this false promise of normality. I get claustrophobic just thinking about packed tents and moshing.

In a couple of weeks you have Wide Awake, End of the Road and Manchester Psych Fest effectively rotating line ups. Will be interesting to see how many acts make it to the Sunday as I assume they have to test daily.

Been an End of the Road regular for a few years and when I saw there were plenty of tickets being resold- at a discount- I thought about it but nah, think I'll leave it and let other people be the guinea pigs.

I'm not that bothered about covid- I've been working through this, been to the pub a few times, used public transport- but spending four days with loads of other people, crowded coach there and back- I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet. I get irritated by other people by the end of festivals anyway.

Also, lots of stories about there being problems with the number of toilets at festivals and after a couple of days of drinking and eating festival food my arse gets excitable so I don't want to risk EOTR having problems as well.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on August 30, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
it's totally up to the band themselves now so they could if they wanted to. gonna see Blaze Bayley in a few weeks, he's usually a great egg in that he has a free meet 'n' greet after the show where anyone can get pics with him or get anything he's ever sung on signed (iron maiden, wolfsbane) but he's said he's not going to do any this year, and just make sure there's plenty of signed stuff for sale instead. which i think is totally right. it's finally the right time to start getting back to normal, but there should still be some precautions. certainly not shaking hands with dozens of hairy blokes.
Space are doing a meet 'n' greet at a record store, so I assume they're not arsed about COVID. Tommy got bollocked by security staff in Liverpool for shaking hands with fans.

On a smaller level, one of my mates is in a band called Weimar and they've cancelled their Manchester gigs for COVID reasons. I was looking forward to seeing them but my mate is pretty cagey about doing anything gig-related right now, so I understand.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: holyzombiejesus on August 30, 2021, 03:10:43 PM
The venue down the road has just announced a secret(ish) Stereolab show for Friday so I think that will be my first gig in about 2 years. Don't think they're asking for masks and it's quite a small room so it's quite risky but I think the locals are generally behaving themselves (the anti-lockdown preacher woman in the market square constantly gets heckled and most shops are still asking for masks to be worn) so it's probably just about worth the risk.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Inspector Norse on September 02, 2021, 09:49:45 PM
Just been to see Dungen under a motorway bridge (https://live.staticflickr.com/2873/9158672023_068d8ba4bc_z.jpg). We all had to sit down, even afterwarda when the frontman was DJing. Felt good after 18 gig-free months.
No unnecessary contact apart from a disabled girl who asked for a hand onto the bench next to mine which I could hardly refuse, although I kept bumping into people I knew and hadn’t seen for ages, and we weren’t sure how we were supposed to greet one another.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: jobotic on September 02, 2021, 10:10:24 PM
The venue down the road has just announced a secret(ish) Stereolab show for Friday so I think that will be my first gig in about 2 years. Don't think they're asking for masks and it's quite a small room so it's quite risky but I think the locals are generally behaving themselves (the anti-lockdown preacher woman in the market square constantly gets heckled and most shops are still asking for masks to be worn) so it's probably just about worth the risk.

I'm a bit jealous after seeing them at a pre-tour tiny gig in Ramsgate a couple of years ago. They were fantastic, as good as back in the day - but we were packed into a tiny sweaty ventilation free room and I don't think I could do that at the moment.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on September 08, 2021, 09:33:47 PM
I missed Beabadoobee last night due to having a rotten cold/sore throat, and because the trial people told me to stay home and then do some PCR tests so the trial company can pick them up. I'm supposed to be going to Hull on Friday around midday to see Space, and I'm going with mates, so I hope to fuck I get my results before then because it's going to be just a tad awkward if we're on a motorway and I get a call going 'oh hay thar Kankurette, looks like you have the 'rona.' I don't think I do because I did a lateral flow test and it was negative, but better safe than sorry, I guess. And then I have to do a spit test on Saturday.

Every time I get a cold I have to report the symptoms just in case it actually is you-know-what. It's a pain.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: WhoMe on September 09, 2021, 08:11:25 PM
Bought a couple of tix for King Hannah on the 27th October, so that's a new lockdown all but confirmed for mid-October some time. Cheers.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on September 11, 2021, 04:56:15 PM
My test was negative, so that’s a relief.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SweetPomPom on September 11, 2021, 05:28:08 PM
Feels like anywhere thats big and corporate is asking for LFTs or jabs and anywhere arts councilly or charity funded is saying don't bother about that, we trust you. Barely seen any masks at either.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on September 12, 2021, 04:09:56 PM
Apparently when Space played in Scotland, the audience had masks on but nobody did in the Adelphi. Which, as natives of Hull will know, is tiny. I wonder if anyone's going to get the 'rona. One of my mates went backstage after the gig so I assume Space aren't arsed.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: bomb_dog on September 12, 2021, 04:50:08 PM
Saw A.A.Williams last Sunday in Bristol, lateral flow ‘proof’ (ie whatever people told the government their result was), and masks except in your seat made it about as sensible as you could get in a reduced-risk way. Great gig, even though the support act had to cry off as they or their family had caught the ‘vid.

Only about 60 people there though I think but if this covid passport thing isn’t going to roll then I don’t think I’ll be seeing other bands in more sweatier cramped circumstances until the numbers significantly drop, vaccine-d up or not.

Someone at work got it last week and they’ve spent most of the week exhausted and useless, stuck at home. Could have been worse but I don’t fancy a dose.

Sorry, musicians.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on September 12, 2021, 09:24:23 PM
I'm seeing the Manics next month and they've had to change their support because they were going to have the Anchoress, but she's dropped out. Apparently she's clinically vulnerable and gigging is too risky for her.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on September 13, 2021, 09:39:46 AM
Damn I thought I was going to loads of concerts this month but they've almost all been fucking postponed. Billie Marten on the 29th September and I hate to say it Billie but I was looking forwards to you the least
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SweetPomPom on September 14, 2021, 12:54:43 PM
The Furs have just cancelled their UK tour which was only a couple of weeks away. Saw A.A. Williams on Saturday supporting the Sisters at the Roundhouse. No checks or LFTs to get in and the first thing I've been to that had a hot, sweaty bouncy crowd. Waiting on PCR now..
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: non capisco on September 14, 2021, 01:00:52 PM
Went to the Wide Awake one-dayer in Brockwell Park a couple of weeks back, appear to have dodged the 'vid despite being caught up in the moment and throwing myself around the pit for Black Midi like someone who isn't in their 40s. I don't know if it's too good to be true and too early to say that the pandemic may have made gig attendees more inclined to live in the moment but one thing I immediately noticed was that no-one was doing the "filming the entire gig on their phone" carry-on. I really enjoyed Wide Awake, it was like Field Day but without all the knobheads.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on September 16, 2021, 11:26:19 PM
^ My flatmate went to that and a couple of days later I too was wide awake, thanks to her coughing through the night like a sea lion with emphysema. Negative PCR thankfully, so it just seems to be standard party lurgy.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SpiderChrist on September 17, 2021, 10:57:06 AM
Finally bit the bullet and fucked off the Gruff Rhys gig and a gig I was meant to be playing in October.

Mate of mine went to Maui Waui with his family (and quite a few gigs/pubs prior to that) and now he and his daughter have to isolate cos his missus got the covid.

Another friend is at Equinox this weekend and I think he's fucking mad and irresponsible, particularly as both his missus and his son have had covid and he has a heart condition.

Mate of mine bought me a ticket as a birthday present to see Public Service Broadcasting in November and I think that'll have to be off the cards too. Not too bothered about that, though, tbh.

I see so many FB posts of friends going to gigs and festies. They're all fucking mental. Had to sack off Facebook again because it's just doing my head in.

Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on September 17, 2021, 12:28:22 PM
If I can't go to a gig now despite being double vaxxed alongside the rest of the population, when can I go? Hospitalisation levels are much lower than they have been previously, and tbh my infirm grandad and my infirm grandfather in law have both since snuffed it anyway. Could be another year again before the Delta variant vaccine comes out if it ever does, and high vaccination rates for this variant might never happen. I'm just behaving like I did in 2019 except for occasionally feeling guilty when I see a customer service worker helping me whole wearing a mask indoors.

When will you guys feel safe to go out again? I am worried that people will never feel safe again. My dead dad was never diagnosed with any mental health problem but he was 'OCD' about germs, like he didn't touch door handles or light switches, and I don't think he would've ever felt safe outside again if he lived through COVID. Feels like a mild unease about germs would become crippling in COVID and I don't see how it could go back down to mild again
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: SpiderChrist on September 17, 2021, 01:10:13 PM
If I can't go to a gig now despite being double vaxxed alongside the rest of the population, when can I go?

You can go to a gig. Nobody is saying you can't. And double-vaxxed alongside the rest of the population? You sure about that?

Anyway - live your life, you be you etc. Like I give a fuck anymore.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on September 17, 2021, 01:44:14 PM
And double-vaxxed alongside the rest of the population? You sure about that?

80% of over-16s as of 10 days ago, don't know what it's at nowadays. Many aeons ago they said a 60% vaccination rate would be enough for herd immunity.

I'm sure some of the remaining % have some illness that prevents them from getting vaxxed and another larger % of the remainder have convinced themselves out of ever getting the vaccine anyway. I'd expect it's not going to get much better than this.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on September 30, 2021, 03:29:38 PM
Billie Marten at Manchester Academy last night. I really enjoyed it. I was on 2cb and bumping ket and the support wasn't right up my street so I wandered about listening to my mp3 player until Billie took the stage. She was better than I expected and just as good as the dingy heavy metal bands I might see in the same venue. Everyone there was so young. Had to download a COVID pass from the NHS website as well as my ticket, but security were far lazier than they used to be at the Academy in terms of trying to find drugs and weapons

The only thing is, when I see extreme metal bands and everyone is screaming along and convulsing, it feels like some great cathartic experience. Billie Marten with her soft voice and acoustic folk was not quite the same as this, although it was stupendous. I'm sure there'll be people crying at the end of Winterfylleth next month.

Also went to Manchester Art Gallery yesterday and felt compelled to wear a mask by sheer force of peer pressure; got one from a Chinese corner store after noticing how good Chinese people were with masks. £10 in Boots and you had to buy 20!

also someone coughed right near me on Market Street
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on October 01, 2021, 09:55:17 AM
Bought two tickets to some all nighter Floating Points thing at Corsica Studios in a few weeks, currently have no one to go with but they were only a tenner.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on October 03, 2021, 01:33:42 AM
While I love the Manics, tonight’s gig really put me off going to larger venues.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Cerys on October 03, 2021, 11:05:33 AM
Sprog went to her first ever gig last weekend, and now I'm feeling like crap.  If she's infected me I will not be amused.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on October 03, 2021, 08:52:56 PM
To clarify what I said last night: the Manics themselves were fine, a few minor setlist quibbles aside. Getting in was not and it put a downer on the night. First the queue was massive, even when the support were on, because they were checking vaccine proof and pulling people who didn't have it out of the queue. I don't have a card, but I do have a letter explaining that I'm in a clinical trial for a COVID vaccine and have been double jabbed. When we got to the guy who was checking to see if we'd been jabbed, I showed him my letter and he got cunty at me and insisted on reading it, and I had to explain about the whole clinical trial thing. I'm not good at dealing with security staff shouting at me and ordering me to do stuff and I thought at first he wanted to see my ticket. Getting in was pretty stressful and I almost had a full-on meltdown. The Lightning Seeds was just as bad, though at least I didn't have to show the letter there. They didn't do it at Space because the Adelphi in Hull is tiny, it just seems to be the bigger venues but I just cannot be fucked having to go through all that again.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on October 03, 2021, 09:00:50 PM
I just cannot be fucked having to go through all that again.

Yeah my fiancee went to see Dirty Dancing yesterday (by herself) and the queue was around the block, they started late to get everyone in. Queuing for hours, in the rain, must've been shit. Smaller gigs might be a lot more tolerable than larger ones for the time-being.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Kankurette on October 03, 2021, 09:18:31 PM
The fact it was pissing it down certainly didn't help.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: peanutbutter on October 03, 2021, 09:22:30 PM
If the venue accepts lateral flow tests I'd say just do one of them before. I'd lose my mind a bit having to explain any out of the ordinary vaccine certification thing, it's the kind of situation my anxiety would just be misread as acting shady as fuck.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: JaDanketies on October 03, 2021, 09:32:03 PM
Dirty Dancing said they accepted lateral flow tests on the ticket, and my fiancée is only single jabbed so we asked at the box office, and they literally just accepted a temperature scan of the forehead. For the final showing of Dirty Dancing at The Palace Theatre in Manchester - where they put on The Book of Mormon and all the big theatre shows, sat down in a room with thousands of others for hours. A standing gig at a much smaller venue and they were much stricter.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: flotemysost on October 03, 2021, 10:36:42 PM
I've been to a few plays at smaller theatres this year and I have to say there wasn't much in the way of safeguarding, either when booking (well, there might have been some small print on the website about "if you're having symptoms, don't come") or on arrival. Wore a mask throughout the performances but most of the audience didn't, bloke behind me audibly guzzling a bag of crisps at one of them, like that was the only window in his whole fucking day where he could possibly fit that in.

And one of them was in a typically poky upstairs-room-of-a-pub venue which I'm also meant to be performing at next month, I'm looking forward to it but stockpiling the lateral flows for then.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: scarecrow on October 04, 2021, 11:05:54 AM
I've been to two things. The first was a poorly attended film screening event. Everyone went in with a drink, unmasked and stayed like this the whole time. One woman who didn't have a drink kept her mask on the whole time. After I'd finished my drink, I put the mask back on in solidarity with her. It felt mostly safe though as there were few people there and the venue seemed to be taking the situation seriously. Despite its modest size, the space was airy and well-ventilated.

On Saturday, I went to a small seated gig, where the majority of the audience wore masks, briefly unfastening one ear whenever they wanted to sip their drinks. It felt good to be around considerate people who were making an effort. Unfortunately, despite everyone else being so good, there were a handful of raging cunts who had their masks off the entire time, in a sort of 'Well, I am following the rules' fashion, despite the performer being about 70 and having directly asked everyone going to his gigs to mask throughout. Was especially annoyed to see a guy on the front row who had brought his disinterested girlfriend along. She sat stony faced and texted throughout, with a mask dangling from her elbow. At various points, she let out big open, industrial strength COVID-blast yawns. In this man's pursuit of company, he had tripled everyone else's risk. I guess acts are grateful for ticket sales, but think that if you're visibly disinterested at indoor events at this moment in time, you should probably just fuck off out of them, or at least mask up while you sulk. Still, I felt safe at the gig and it would be great if they all had the same level of compliance. Sadly, I'm sure this was a rarity and that the pint men will almost always triumph.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: Cerys on October 06, 2021, 04:38:11 PM
Sprog went to her first ever gig last weekend, and now I'm feeling like crap.  If she's infected me I will not be amused.

Well, somebody infected me with something, but it was not Covid-19.  I am therefore not not amused.
Title: Re: Gigs in the time of COVID
Post by: holdover on October 07, 2021, 11:02:39 PM
Saw Erasure at the Usher Hall in Edinburgh last night. Needed evidence of double vaccination to get in and the website claimed masks needed to be worn and social distancing observed.

Once we were in the main area everybody was maskless of course and in a happy singing mob.

This morning was hungover and regretful and I’m going to feel fucking stupid for the next 10 days or so I reckon.  Then maybe dead.