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Title: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ham Bap on August 18, 2021, 11:02:53 AM
https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1427933473277423623?s=20

Comedian Sean Lock – best known for panel shows '8 Out Of 10 Cats' and '8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown' as well as sitcom '15 Storeys High' – has died from cancer at the age of 58
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Post by: shiftwork2 on August 18, 2021, 11:04:38 AM
What?  Ah fucking hell.
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Post by: madhair60 on August 18, 2021, 11:05:46 AM
Gone Lock, there we go - there's one
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Post by: Jockice on August 18, 2021, 11:05:58 AM
What the fuck? I didn't know anything about him being ill. That's proper upsetting.
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Post by: Small Potatoes on August 18, 2021, 11:07:11 AM
Fucks sake. What horrible news. 15 Storeys High is such an amazing piece of work.
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Post by: Utter Shit on August 18, 2021, 11:07:44 AM
Very sad, he was always good value on 8OO10C/DC and 15 Storeys High and 15 Minutes of Misery were fantastic.

Sadly I'm not *that* surprised to hear this news. There was a period a couple of years ago where he was clearly not well...his voice became quite weak and he got really gaunt. He seemed a lot better in his more recent appearances so I'd assumed he had come through whatever that was.
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Post by: Butchers Blind on August 18, 2021, 11:10:12 AM
Fuck! Had no idea he was ill. Time for another 15SH rewatch.
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Post by: beanheadmcginty on August 18, 2021, 11:11:14 AM
Lockdown
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Post by: bgmnts on August 18, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
Holy shit I had no idea he was 58!

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Post by: Mr Trumpet on August 18, 2021, 11:11:51 AM
Very sad to hear. Was always an excellent guest on those comedy interview type shows (Room 101 etc).
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Post by: kalowski on August 18, 2021, 11:12:51 AM
Didn't he have skin cancer when he was young? What a shame this is.
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Post by: Uncle TechTip on August 18, 2021, 11:13:35 AM
Best stand up I've seen. This is upsetting. 15SH was a masterpiece, cruelly unloved now. Thanks and goodbye Sean.
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Post by: mippy on August 18, 2021, 11:13:41 AM
I don't remember even hearing he was ill! Goddamn.
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Post by: ImmaculateClump on August 18, 2021, 11:13:47 AM
Aw man, he ended up coasting on panel shows but it wasn't his fault. A huge talent, loved 15 storeys and his standup.
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Post by: selectivememory on August 18, 2021, 11:13:54 AM
Oh my god. I remember when people here were talking about him not looking well a while back, but I didn't really watch the kind of shows he was on in recent years so it kind of slipped my mind that he might actually be sick.

Great stand up comic though, and 15 Storeys High is an incredible sitcom, one of the best in the last couple of decades. RIP
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Post by: Beagle 2 on August 18, 2021, 11:14:04 AM
Very sad news. 15 Storeys High will always be a masterpiece.
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Post by: icehaven on August 18, 2021, 11:14:29 AM
Bloody hell, how awful and sad. Remember his "I'm not bitter" thing about Newman and Baddiel and he probably ended up being on TV more than both of them.
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Post by: jobotic on August 18, 2021, 11:14:33 AM
Very sad, he was always good value on 8OO10C/DC and 15 Storeys High and 15 Minutes of Misery were fantastic.

Sadly I'm not *that* surprised to hear this news. There was a period a couple of years ago where he was clearly not well...his voice became quite weak and he got really gaunt. He seemed a lot better in his more recent appearances so I'd assumed he had come through whatever that was.

That's what I thought. He'd been ill but he was better. I saw him do stand up a couple of years ago and he seemed fine. He was a lot funnier than I thought he'd be (he was very funny but I'd seen on him an that Apollo shite and he was dreadful - not on the television he was much better).

15 Storeys High and Minutes of Misery were, of course, brilliant.
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Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 18, 2021, 11:15:13 AM
Oh my god. Truly stunned by this news. I knew he seemed unwell from his recent TV appearances, but this is still very sudden.

He was always a consistently hilarious presence on panel shows. Given how repetitive they are and how many he'd done, it's an achievement that can't be understated. Truly talented.
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Post by: Jerzy Bondov on August 18, 2021, 11:16:07 AM
Really sad news. I rewatched 15 Storeys High earlier this year and loved it more than ever. You know what I really liked TV Heaven Telly Hell - basically Room 101 except just TV. As with Room 101, the Johnny Vegas episode was especially good.

I think he was pretty happy to do panel shows rather than work his arse off on one of the best British sitcoms of the 2000s and have no cunt watch it.
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Post by: AsparagusTrevor on August 18, 2021, 11:17:45 AM
Holy shit, didn't expect this. Very sad. As others have said, 15 Storeys High was a masterpiece, and he always managed to elevate 8 Out of 10 Cats (especially the genius that was Carrot in a Box), plus I liked what I saw of his standup.

R.I.P.
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Post by: Angrew Lloyg Wegger on August 18, 2021, 11:18:13 AM
Ah fuck. Like many others on here I loved 15 Storeys High, probably my favourite British sitcom ever and I'm eternally grateful for CaB for pointing me towards it. Just brilliantly inventive and funny. I've also enjoyed his stand-up and various panel show appearances but always hoped he'd be able to find another vehicle for his talents. RIP
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Post by: MojoJojo on August 18, 2021, 11:19:38 AM
Damn. I actually bought 15SH a couple of weeks ago as I've never seen it, just heard the radio version. I had to get it on dvd as it's not available streaming anywhere.
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Post by: notjosh on August 18, 2021, 11:20:07 AM
Completely surprised and absolute gutted about this. I was literally walking around the office yesterday thinking about bits from 15 Minutes of Misery and laughing to myself. Wish I'd seen him live now.

In case anyone hasn't heard them, here are his two radio series and the (fantastic) live CD he released in 2003:
https://mega.nz/folder/HbB12a6C#2OibfbEmSDBM1-AAcSoKMw

Just a naturally hilarious man who made even the most mundane panel shows worth watching. I love his two 'carrot in a box' matches against Jon Richardson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E
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Post by: Sgt. Duckie on August 18, 2021, 11:20:20 AM
🕯
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Post by: Wet Blanket on August 18, 2021, 11:20:25 AM
Knocked a bit sideways by this news. Like others have said, it was clear he'd been under the weather but it seemed like he'd made a full recovery. 15 Storeys High due a rewatch I reckon.
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Post by: The Lurker on August 18, 2021, 11:20:49 AM
Oh man. So sad. 15 Storey's High is an absolute masterpiece and still makes me chuckle whenever I think about it. Totally forgot about TV Heaven, Telly Hell too which also gold.

Edit: Saw him live a few years ago for free. Brilliant stand up. His bit where he revealed himself as The Riddler was fucking brilliant.
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Post by: The Ombudsman on August 18, 2021, 11:21:38 AM
Quite shocked by this. He was on my list of people to see when things got back to normal. Tremendously sad and a great loss.
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Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 18, 2021, 11:24:26 AM
Sean of the Dead
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Post by: Utter Shit on August 18, 2021, 11:25:19 AM
Really sad news. I rewatched 15 Storeys High earlier this year and loved it more than ever. You know what I really liked TV Heaven Telly Hell - basically Room 101 except just TV. As with Room 101, the Johnny Vegas episode was especially good.

Oh God yeah that was great. He had so much leeway to go in whatever direction he wanted. There was an episode with Jimmy Carr that ends with Sean Lock wearing a pair of shorts with his balls hanging out and the two of them pissing themselves laughing, it's so joyous.

Speaking of Room 101, his appearance where he talks about his time working on a building site is great too, and also includes a story about an acquiantance standing before a judge with a truly fantastic line.
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Post by: Spiteface on August 18, 2021, 11:27:07 AM
Very sad, he was always good value on 8OO10C/DC and 15 Storeys High and 15 Minutes of Misery were fantastic.

Sadly I'm not *that* surprised to hear this news. There was a period a couple of years ago where he was clearly not well...his voice became quite weak and he got really gaunt. He seemed a lot better in his more recent appearances so I'd assumed he had come through whatever that was.

This is my thought, too. I remember there were a few episodes of 8 out of 10 Cats Does Countdown where I noticed he sounded off. Then there was the time he looked like Walter White which looking back, he did look gaunt as you say. Then he did more episodes and seemed okay again. But it's often hard to tell when 8 out of 10 cats does Countdown was new or a repeat, unless it was one of the last ones that was all social distancing and stuff, that will date every programme made in 2020/2022.

Gutted to hear he's gone.
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Post by: bgmnts on August 18, 2021, 11:27:40 AM
Really sad news. I rewatched 15 Storeys High earlier this year and loved it more than ever. You know what I really liked TV Heaven Telly Hell - basically Room 101 except just TV. As with Room 101, the Johnny Vegas episode was especially good.

Yes that was a great series and the Johnny Vegas episode is amazing. Especially at the end when Lock starts corpsing at Vegas' insanity.
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Post by: frajer on August 18, 2021, 11:28:34 AM
Fuck.

Was clearing out my DVDs a year or so ago and this prompted a rewatch of 15 Storeys High (obviously kept that one from the charity shop pile!) Such a bloody good series with such a strong comedic style and tone all of its own. Will be getting watched again sharpish.
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Post by: tinglingoxbow on August 18, 2021, 11:29:03 AM
RIP. A very sad loss, a very talented man.
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Post by: Shit Good Nose on August 18, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
Fucking hell, even knowing there was something clearly wrong a few years ago he wouldn't have been high on the death list.

Never was a fan of his standup, but 15 Storeys is one of the greatest comedy things ever.  I think a complete rewatch is in order.
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Post by: selectivememory on August 18, 2021, 11:30:04 AM
For purely selfish reasons I'm gutted we'll never see him on Taskmaster. He would have been great.

In case anyone hasn't heard them, here are his two radio series and the (fantastic) live CD he released in 2003:
https://mega.nz/folder/HbB12a6C#2OibfbEmSDBM1-AAcSoKMw

Just a naturally hilarious man who made even the most mundane panel shows worth watching. I love his two 'carrot in a box' matches against Jon Richardson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E

That carrot in a box thing is amazing. And cheers for the radio series. Never listened to them so I'll check those out later.
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Post by: buttgammon on August 18, 2021, 11:32:19 AM
So sad to hear this. 15 Storeys High is one of my favourite comedies of all time - that combination of the weird and the bleak is something I've never seen more perfectly executed in anything else.

I saw him live a couple of years ago. He'd looked and sounded ill on TV around that time but seemed healthy when I saw him, which was a relief. Sadly, it mustn't have lasted.
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Post by: Petey Pate on August 18, 2021, 11:33:58 AM
The most recent thing I heard him on was a 2019 podcast that ended with him talking with the host about eating bats, which felt eerily prescient when listening to it during the pandemic.

One thing I've not seen any articles mention yet is his association with the experimental British filmmaker Andrew Kötting.  Here's a short film that Lock co-wrote and appears in.

https://vimeo.com/55217668
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Post by: derek stitt on August 18, 2021, 11:34:04 AM
This news leaves a taste in the mouth as if I have just had a horrible burger. Such sad news an effortlessly funny man.
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Post by: turnstyle on August 18, 2021, 11:35:12 AM
Fucks sake.

Genuinely gutted.

Saw him about a decade ago doing some WIP stuff and it was fucking brilliant. Despite playing to a tiny room of people who had paid what, a fiver, to see a WIP show, he was incredible. Lots of ad libbing and going off on tangents.

Although I didn't watch many panel shows these days, you could always count on Lock for a damn good laugh and an element of dark chaos.

Hughes, Lock....quick, someone check on Sean Walsh (actually, don't).
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Post by: gmoney on August 18, 2021, 11:35:55 AM
Oh wow. That's a horrible shock. I absolutely loved 15 Storeys High and I used to have a copy of his first live album that I listened to again and again. He's timing on that is utterly sublime.
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Post by: Spiteface on August 18, 2021, 11:37:12 AM
Fucks sake.

Genuinely gutted.

Saw him about a decade ago doing some WIP stuff and it was fucking brilliant. Despite playing to a tiny room of people who had paid what, a fiver, to see a WIP show, he was incredible. Lots of ad libbing and going off on tangents.

Although I didn't watch many panel shows these days, you could always count on Lock for a damn good laugh and an element of dark chaos.

Hughes, Lock....quick, someone check on Sean Walsh (actually, don't).

Walsh stuck an extra 'n' on the end. He doesn't count.
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Post by: Tony Tony Tony on August 18, 2021, 11:38:36 AM
Sad news indeed.

Obligatory nonecdote coming up….

My ex wife almost ran Lock over whilst he was on a zebra crossing in (I think) Highbury. Happily she didn’t so we can console ourselves with the thought that at least he got a few more years.
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Post by: Norton Canes on August 18, 2021, 11:39:11 AM
The R.I.P. of the Lock

(actually blinking back tears)
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Post by: beanheadmcginty on August 18, 2021, 11:40:27 AM
Deadlock
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Post by: Alberon on August 18, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
I was reading about Sean Hughes this morning and at first I thought this was a bumped thread from his death.

But, no, this isn't that great a surprise. He'd clearly been very ill in the past few years, but obviously hadn't wanted to broadcast that fact.

Looking at it I don't think any '8 out of ten cats does countdown' has been broadcast that has been recorded this year. There were three or four broadcast early this year, but they must have been recorded in 2020 unless the turnaround was very fast.

I only got to see 15 Stories High the other year and it is criminally underrated and I've seen and enjoyed his stand-up. Absolutely gutting that he's gone.
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Post by: Blumf on August 18, 2021, 11:42:23 AM
Damn it! Such a sharp funny fucker.

To my mind, 15SH is the last truly great British sitcom.
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Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 18, 2021, 11:43:14 AM
Fuck, that's proper awful news.
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Post by: Pink Gregory on August 18, 2021, 11:45:52 AM
well this is no good at all

Only got onto the radio version of 15 Storeys High this year and I am likewise baffled that it's not better known
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Post by: paruses on August 18, 2021, 11:47:02 AM
Terrible but not that surprising as a lot of others have said. Really quite sad about this.

Anyone remember that really fractious travel show he did with Jon Richardson? Would love to see that again. It was made off the back of 8oo10c being suddenly really big.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on August 18, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Shit.  Fucking shit.
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Post by: idunnosomename on August 18, 2021, 11:53:46 AM
Lawn Shock (that it's having Sean Lock buried under it, because it didn't even know he was unwell. the lawn is very sad about it too.)
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Post by: Chollis on August 18, 2021, 11:55:17 AM
Sean Crock
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Post by: Twit 2 on August 18, 2021, 11:55:57 AM
Didn't he have skin cancer when he was young? What a shame this is.

Pretty sure he was a smoker, so that could have got him.
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Post by: beanheadmcginty on August 18, 2021, 11:56:03 AM
Shit out of Lock
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Post by: Petey Pate on August 18, 2021, 11:56:31 AM
Anyone remember that really fractious travel show he did with Jon Richardson? Would love to see that again. It was made off the back of 8oo10c being suddenly really big.

I heard about it but never saw it.  Apparently Richardson spent most of his time whinging while Lock was game for doing everything and was much more friendly with the locals.
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Post by: robhug on August 18, 2021, 11:58:16 AM
on the off chance its hasn't been said already 58 is no age
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Post by: Ornlu on August 18, 2021, 11:58:19 AM
Alright fine, I promise I'll now finally watch 15 Storeys High. It's getting some real high praise here, entirely deserved it seems.

The Lock/Spikey era of 8O10C was some pretty formative comedy in my younger years. And his stand-up was sublime. Seemed like such a naturally funny person, with his deadpan cadence and jerky physicality.

"I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, SOME WWWWANKER!"

RIP fella. Time for a crafty one.
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Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 18, 2021, 12:00:54 PM
Shit! I was listening to a bit of 15 Minutes of Misery just the other day.

His croaky voice on Cats Does Countdown was worrying, but he sounded fine in subsequent series. I assume that they can film a whole series of in the span of about a week, so it wasn't necessarily a chronic condition.

nonecdote
I initially misread that as "nonce" and briefly felt even crummier.

My ex wife almost ran Lock over
Was he teaching you to swim at the time? (https://youtu.be/aImSYXhiDig?t=1244)
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Post by: samadriel on August 18, 2021, 12:02:53 PM
"I was beating a pig to death with a hammer the other day, and I thought to myself, 'I need a holiday'."

I fondly remember how 15SH brought together all my many housemates about a decade ago, it was great fun sharing the hilarity.
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Post by: dead-ced-dead on August 18, 2021, 12:05:37 PM
How awful. A really talented, funny, ubiquitous talent. A real loss.
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Post by: lankyguy95 on August 18, 2021, 12:05:43 PM
The afterlife? "I'll do that spinning on my cock."

Seriously though, this can get fucked. Very funny man with a unique comic voice. He did look ill a couple of years ago but this has still taken me by surprise.
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Post by: zomgmouse on August 18, 2021, 12:06:58 PM
Bloody hell, holy shit. Just stunned by this news. One of the effortless talents.

One thing I've not seen any articles mention yet is his association with the experimental British filmmaker Andrew Kötting.  Here's a short film that Lock co-wrote and appears in.

https://vimeo.com/55217668

Absolutely worth a watch.
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Post by: Steve Lampkins on August 18, 2021, 12:08:42 PM
Well shit. Though as said, not completely out of the blue.
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Post by: The Mollusk on August 18, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
Really fucking shocked and upset about this.
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Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 18, 2021, 12:12:59 PM
Shame so many people will know him for coasting on panel shows, although I guess most of those people aren't as down about them as we are.

Unfortunately one of the culprits of turning comedy into a televised witty pub chat with occasional parlour game elements. Low effort, unchallenging for the audience.

He possessed a great mind nevertheless and stripping out the schlock, he has a CV nearly all of us would envy. Seemed like a good genuine guy and it's a tragic, horribly hurtful and cruel age to die. RIP.
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Post by: checkoutgirl on August 18, 2021, 12:15:06 PM
And Jimmy Carr's still alive, there's no justice in this world.
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Post by: JamesTC on August 18, 2021, 12:17:30 PM
He said nothing about a Viking funeral but he certainly discourages it.
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Post by: Pseudopath on August 18, 2021, 12:19:57 PM
someone check on Sean Walsh (actually, don't)

Sadly, he died at my local comedy club last Thursday.
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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 18, 2021, 12:22:03 PM
Very sad to hear this, always seemed a good egg and was a great performer. I didn’t even know he was ill.
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Post by: selectivememory on August 18, 2021, 12:22:50 PM
Scrolling through the tributes on Twitter, I've just been reminded of this little aside in Stewart Lee's book, which I wasn't sure if he was joking or if it was an actual Sean Lock routine he was describing. I like to think it's real though:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9ETP8XXoAQZOyI?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Post by: NoOffenceLynn on August 18, 2021, 12:23:39 PM
on the off chance its hasn't been said already 58 is no age


Nah, you're right, it really is no age to go.

RIP Sean. And thanks for the lols.

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Post by: FerriswheelBueller on August 18, 2021, 12:26:04 PM
Scrolling through the tributes on Twitter, I've just been reminded of this little aside in Stewart Lee's book, which I wasn't sure if he was joking or if it was an actual Sean Lock routine he was describing. I like to think it's real though:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9ETP8XXoAQZOyI?format=jpg&name=medium)

First thing I thought of as well haha.
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Post by: pigamus on August 18, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
Really fucking shocked and upset about this.

Yeah, me too. Jesus. I always thought he was brilliant, I loved 15 Storeys High. Awful.
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Post by: The Mollusk on August 18, 2021, 12:44:06 PM
the schlock

Damn dude I didn’t know you were on nickname terms with him! Thoughts and prayers for you today.
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Post by: Tony Yeboah on August 18, 2021, 12:44:52 PM
The Daily Mail have taken a screencap of him looking gaunt in 2020 and put it on the front page of their website captioned 'Last Picture.' Which is nice.
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Post by: Neville Chamberlain on August 18, 2021, 12:49:18 PM
Oh, bollocks. Didn't see this coming.
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Post by: bobloblaw on August 18, 2021, 12:51:55 PM
Sean of the Dead

(upon hearing the news):

No! Shit, Sean Lock.
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Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 18, 2021, 12:52:03 PM
I saw him once at a benefit gig in about 2008. He came out in the second half, clearly a bit tipsy and did most of his set in a Bernard Manning style voice. He was great.
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Post by: mrClaypole on August 18, 2021, 12:57:40 PM
Gutted.  I really loved Seans work.  I will have a cry now
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Post by: Thomas on August 18, 2021, 01:04:17 PM
I love the curmudgeonly discord he would bring to otherwise shiny proceedings, thereby making them worth watching. Recall his blunt Big Fat Quiz critique (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfFSxyrCnLk&ab_channel=rebelbiscuit) of those child actors, for example, or his willingness to disgust and appall (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q9IRpFGgPY&ab_channel=Channel4) on 8OO10C.

I have the wonderful 15 Storeys High on DVD, but I'm not sure I ever got round to watching the second series. Will do.
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Post by: peanutbutter on August 18, 2021, 01:05:13 PM
The evolution of 15 Minutes of Misery into 15 Storeys High on radio into the TV series is the best endorsement of the radio 4 development system I can think of. The absolute burying of the TV series must've been horrible to deal with. Def need to do a rewatch.

Extremely funny man, enjoyed the standup I've seen of his loads but always got the impression he was holding back from going as weird as he probably wanted to with some bits. Wouldn't surprise me if his WIPs were better than the finished shows.
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Post by: Bronzy on August 18, 2021, 01:07:33 PM
RIP to the world’s greatest Carrot in a Box champion.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E
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Post by: gabbitas on August 18, 2021, 01:17:38 PM
Lockdown

Total pisser but thats so good :-) :-( :-)
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Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 18, 2021, 01:19:44 PM
Circa early 90s, I used to specifically go to the Comedy Store if I knew Lock was on the bill. Guaranteed a great night out, especially if his mate Lamarr was compering and Bob Mills was lurking by the bar in the shadows to go on next. God, I miss those days.

Lock had a brilliantly inventive mind, this is such a great loss to comedy. I didn't know he'd been so ill. Absolutely rotten news.
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Post by: rectorofstiffkey on August 18, 2021, 01:39:33 PM
The Daily Mail have taken a screencap of him looking gaunt in 2020 and put it on the front page of their website captioned 'Last Picture.' Which is nice.

The Daily Mail haven't covered themselves with glory today.  Here is their headline:

(https://i.ibb.co/1MRZYcc/lock.png)

I mean surely you'd have a good proof-read of an article about a tragically young death.  Surely.

Awful news.
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Post by: An tSaoi on August 18, 2021, 01:39:43 PM
It's funny that his obscure work failed, so he had to slum it as a mainstream success. It's the opposite of a most comedy careers.
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Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 18, 2021, 01:41:20 PM
Apologies for laughing at foamily, hopefully Sean would laugh at that.
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Post by: touchingcloth on August 18, 2021, 01:54:17 PM
For
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Post by: touchingcloth on August 18, 2021, 01:54:58 PM
fuck’s
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Post by: touchingcloth on August 18, 2021, 01:55:25 PM
sake.

(New page, ‘sake.)
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Post by: gilbertharding on August 18, 2021, 01:55:49 PM
The Daily Mail haven't covered themselves with glory today.  Here is their headline:

(https://i.ibb.co/1MRZYcc/lock.png)

I mean surely you'd have a good proof-read of an article about a tragically young death.  Surely.

Awful news.

Sorry to split hairs, but 58 isn't 'tragically young'. It's 'no age'.
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Post by: DoesNotFollow on August 18, 2021, 01:58:54 PM
Bereavement UnLocked
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Post by: MigraineBoy on August 18, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
Stuck for listening material on a big drive last week I downloaded the Beckett/Widecombe podcast Lockdown Parenting Hell because I saw Sean was the guest*.
Now I’m terribly sad because he seemed like such a good Dad.

* I’d never heard him as a guest on podcasts, so his appearance was surprising to Rob Beckett too.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 18, 2021, 02:05:03 PM
Very sad news, even after more than 30 series of 8OO10C/DC he still put an effort into his appearances and didn't just coast along as many in that position would have done. Always guaranteed to bring the biggest laughs of each episode.

But what does it sound like, Sean? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw-GlFkfFfY&t=279s)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on August 18, 2021, 02:18:36 PM
Sorry to split hairs, but 58 isn't 'tragically young'. It's 'no age'.

Ten years ago, I'd have agreed with you.  Now I'm close enough to that age to maintain that it's tragically young!  Give it another few years and my idea of 'a good innings' will be about 120.

Always enjoyed his appearances.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: machotrouts on August 18, 2021, 02:19:24 PM
The Daily Mail haven't covered themselves with glory today.  Here is their headline:

(https://i.ibb.co/1MRZYcc/lock.png)

I mean surely you'd have a good proof-read of an article about a tragically young death.  Surely.

Oh my god... he died of rabies
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: rectorofstiffkey on August 18, 2021, 02:21:06 PM
Oh my god... he died of rabies

what kind of life has that journo led that the autocomplete went to 'foamily' rather than 'family'?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: daf on August 18, 2021, 02:29:25 PM
Rock in Peace Big Dave Littleforks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuhd31ozwY)!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Alberon on August 18, 2021, 02:31:52 PM
Harry Hill on Sean Lock in the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/aug/18/harry-hill-on-sean-lock-comedians-comedian-took-us-by-surprise
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: C_Larence on August 18, 2021, 02:34:29 PM
A video was posted on here recently, not sure what thread, but in the first episode of 8 Out Of 10 Cats that was filmed after Jimmy Carr’s tax evasion story broke, Lock seemed genuinely angry at him about it. Similarly, a clip was shared where he was seriously disparaging a tory politician (might have been Boris Johnson) before Jon Richardson interrupted to say what a hard job the government has and everyone should be a bit nicer to them. Does anyone know when and where that was shared?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: checkoutgirl on August 18, 2021, 02:43:37 PM
The saddest part isn't that he died at 48, it's that he had to spend the last 15 years of his life working with Jimmy Carr. Nobody deserves that.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: lankyguy95 on August 18, 2021, 02:44:27 PM
Harry Hill on Sean Lock in the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/aug/18/harry-hill-on-sean-lock-comedians-comedian-took-us-by-surprise
Lovely little read.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Famous Mortimer on August 18, 2021, 02:45:33 PM
The saddest part isn't that he died at 48
You're right, it isn't.

What a pisser.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: checkoutgirl on August 18, 2021, 02:47:53 PM
How long did he have that partnership with Bill Bailey? Was it a year or two?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Glebe on August 18, 2021, 03:00:04 PM
Oh fuck this is a shock, had no idea he was sick. Very sad news. RIP mate.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Nowhere Man on August 18, 2021, 03:06:42 PM
This news made me shout 'the fuck?' out loud. But seriously, fucks sake.[1] RIP man i've never met whos made me do rip roaringly loud belly laughs on many an occasion.

He's tied with Bob Mortimer for my favourite person on panel shows. Actually based on just panel shows Sean probably edges it.

But it's not just panel shows, which is what I know most people are probably gonna focus on, because 15 Storeys High is one of the top 10 greatest sitcoms ever made in my book.

 1. If Bob Dylan goes down for diddling kids then thats the whole year ruined
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: An tSaoi on August 18, 2021, 03:15:51 PM
Comedian in a Box
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Elderly Sumo Prophecy on August 18, 2021, 03:15:58 PM
Sean Rot
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: gmoney on August 18, 2021, 03:17:56 PM
Ten years ago, I'd have agreed with you.  Now I'm close enough to that age to maintain that it's tragically young!  Give it another few years and my idea of 'a good innings' will be about 120.

Always enjoyed his appearances.

That reminds me of one his gags about being at his nan's funeral. "She was 80, she'd had a good innings, everyone said that. Apart from a few 79 year olds..."
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: robhug on August 18, 2021, 03:36:33 PM
I believe officially its:

0-29 tragic
30-39 taken too young
40-49 in their prime
50-69 no age ​
70-89 good innings
90+ lived a full life
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on August 18, 2021, 03:38:10 PM
Harry Hill on Sean Lock in the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2021/aug/18/harry-hill-on-sean-lock-comedians-comedian-took-us-by-surprise

Cheers, some nice stuff
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Cheesewogg on August 18, 2021, 03:39:53 PM
Rhys Thomas's 2021 'A Year In the Life of A Year' will be interesting...
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: icehaven on August 18, 2021, 03:54:21 PM
I've been meaning to watch 15 Storeys High for ages as it's raved about so much here, and after today and this thread I was thinking I was definitely going to seek it out ASAP. I just went to get some DVDs out of the cupboard at work, we have about 12 long shelves of them totalling about 1500 DVDs, and what was the first one I saw? I didn't even know we had it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Galeee on August 18, 2021, 03:55:59 PM
Sad news.
Such a sharp and witty man, and 15 Storeys is sublime. (And under appreciated)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Lemming on August 18, 2021, 03:59:08 PM
Terrible news, RIP. 15 Storeys High is one of the all-time great underrated comedies.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Elderly Sumo Prophecy on August 18, 2021, 04:02:31 PM
I believe officially its:

0-29 tragic
30-39 taken too young
40-49 in their prime
50-69 no age ​
70-89 good innings
90+ lived a full life

I hit 40 this year. It's comforting to know that I'm in my prime. I thought I was an over the hill baldy lardarse.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: gilbertharding on August 18, 2021, 04:04:40 PM
I hit 40 this year. It's comforting to know that I'm in my prime. I thought I was an over the hill baldy lardarse.

These only apply if you die though - so hang in there.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 18, 2021, 04:11:13 PM
‘You do get stressed don’t you? Like the other day, I was killing this pig with a hammer…. I thought to myself, I need a holiday’.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: chocky909 on August 18, 2021, 04:17:30 PM
Fucks sake. I too thought he'd been ill but got better. His 3 radio and 2 TV series are up there with the best and always effortlessly hilarious and fascinating on panel shows. Sad loss.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: purlieu on August 18, 2021, 04:22:35 PM
Had to do a triple take when I saw the headline earlier, just not something I expected at all. 15 Storeys High... yeah, one of the all-time greats, such a staggeringly funny and totally unique show. So many little bits of it have entered my day-to-day conscious thoughts - cactises, "Jesus Christ!", boys so cool - I was always sad he never really did another show like it.
What a fucking horrible day. RIP.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Shameless Custard on August 18, 2021, 04:40:20 PM
Wow, this is deffo a shocker

RIP Sean. 15 Storeys was great
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Pranet on August 18, 2021, 04:58:46 PM
Saw him do stand up 96ish, stands out as some of the funniest stand up I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on August 18, 2021, 04:59:40 PM
I’m ashamed to say that despite being a massive standup lover, I never saw him live as I had him down as a panel show comedian - albeit one of the better ones.

It’s obvious from this thread that he was much more than that, so what recorded shows of his are worth watching? I see that Channel 4 are showing Keep It Light tomorrow night.

RIP Sean. Maybe I’ll finally watch 15 Storeys.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Spiral King on August 18, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Dreadful. I genuinely think about 15 Storeys High once every two weeks. Anyone on the fence about watching needs to do so immediately.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: privatefriend on August 18, 2021, 05:04:54 PM
RIP Sean!

15 Storeys High was one of those shows I was lucky to catch on initial broadcast  (like The Armando Iannucci Show around the same time), that really defined my taste in comedy. There's nothing quite like it.

I saw Simon Munnery live a few years ago, he had a bit of a dig at Lock, calling him a bully. I can imagine him being difficult/curmudgeonly, but seemed more the competitive type that took his comedy very seriously.

Thanks to whoever posted download links earlier, can't remember how much of his radio work I got round to hearing before.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 18, 2021, 05:17:35 PM
For the 15 Storeys High fans, Mark Lamarr does still exist and tweets largely about music, but today posted a sweet little tribute to Lock:

https://twitter.com/lamarr_mark/status/1427936395138670596?s=20
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on August 18, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
This is a nice tribute: https://twitter.com/josierones/status/1427965183666925573
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 18, 2021, 05:34:41 PM
I thought I was an over the hill baldy lardarse.

Lemon Jelly consider rewrite.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 18, 2021, 05:36:24 PM
boys so cool
"That is shit."
"Okay.

...

Chestnuts!"
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: KennyMonster on August 18, 2021, 05:45:48 PM

Was one of the first comedians to play a sold-out Wembley Arena as part of "Comedy Is The New Rock And Roll!" wasn't he?

sad news.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Crumb on August 18, 2021, 05:51:55 PM
RIP Sean. At least it wasn't a really horrible burger that got him.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: SpiderChrist on August 18, 2021, 05:56:06 PM
Saw him do stand up 96ish, stands out as some of the funniest stand up I've ever seen.

I saw him at the Comedy Store in 1995, late show - day of the FA Cup final iirc - Harry Hill was the headliner and (I think) Sean Meo too.

Digging out my 15 Storeys High DVD later.

Funny bastard.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: paruses on August 18, 2021, 06:34:12 PM
Was one of the first comedians to play a sold-out Wembley Arena as part of "Comedy Is The New Rock And Roll!" wasn't he?

sad news.

He was the support for Newman and Baddiel which meant for a long time people said he was the first comedian to play Wembley. However something to do with the timing of the acts meant it was Newman and /or Baddiel instead. This fact really irked David Baddiel when he was on something with Sean Lock a few years ago. I remember Sean Lock doing his cackle and sort of ribbing Baddiel about it who had zero humility about getting the "fact" right. I remember at the time thinking Baddiel was perhaps petty and humourless at heart. Not saying he is but it's how he came across in that moment.

Still would rather have seen Sean Lock's set than all that "that's your mum that is" schtick that I thought was shit even at the time.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Gradual Decline on August 18, 2021, 06:40:33 PM
Ahh, rubbish news indeed.

Sean's background laughter in the Tony McCarroll's Classical Gas advert never fails to set me off.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 18, 2021, 07:06:12 PM
He was the support for Newman and Baddiel which meant for a long time people said he was the first comedian to play Wembley. However something to do with the timing of the acts meant it was Newman and /or Baddiel instead. This fact really irked David Baddiel when he was on something with Sean Lock a few years ago. I remember Sean Lock doing his cackle and sort of ribbing Baddiel about it who had zero humility about getting the "fact" right. I remember at the time thinking Baddiel was perhaps petty and humourless at heart. Not saying he is but it's how he came across in that moment.

Still would rather have seen Sean Lock's set than all that "that's your mum that is" schtick that I thought was shit even at the time.

Was it an episode of 8oo10CDC that Baddiel guested on where that convo took place? It sounds familiar, something like a journo said to Lock in an interview that he was the first person on stage and Lock just said yes and went with it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Blumf on August 18, 2021, 07:12:49 PM
Mort is lock
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: paruses on August 18, 2021, 07:16:13 PM
Was it an episode of 8oo10CDC that Baddiel guested on where that convo took place? It sounds familiar, something like a journo said to Lock in an interview that he was the first person on stage and Lock just said yes and went with it.

Oh yes - Lock deliberately saying it because he didn't care sounds right and makes it funnier. I think that's why Lock was cackling.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: studpuppet on August 18, 2021, 07:22:12 PM
Was it an episode of 8oo10CDC that Baddiel guested on where that convo took place? It sounds familiar, something like a journo said to Lock in an interview that he was the first person on stage and Lock just said yes and went with it.

I think he finished it off with something along the lines of, 'So I went with it, they printed it as fact, and that's how history is written...'
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 18, 2021, 08:00:58 PM
Fuckinell man watching his old standup DVD and the bit he does about the place crashing and him going absolutely psycho at the scared old lady next to him had my in hysterics. “Wanna swap clothes?! Look crazy in the wreckage!!”
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: the science eel on August 18, 2021, 09:56:04 PM
Ahh, rubbish news indeed.

Sean's background laughter in the Tony McCarroll's Classical Gas advert never fails to set me off.

Fucking A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChXVCoYzGyI

(starts about halfway through)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: lankyguy95 on August 18, 2021, 10:42:25 PM
Mark Lamarr talking about him on Radio 4

https://youtu.be/WUfnar7IX2w
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 19, 2021, 12:05:44 AM
Mark Lamarr talking about him on Radio 4

https://youtu.be/WUfnar7IX2w

Lovely to hear. I remember Lock was on Comic’s Choice (I think that’s what it was called) where comedians basically list their favourite comedians in various categories, and he chose Mark Lamarr for how lightning quick he was on Buzzcocks etc. It was a cool thing to see as this was a few years after Lamarr had essentially disappeared from television. Nice to see that paid back.

Also it’s funny to hear even a Radio 4 broadcaster asking a version of the “where did he get his ideas from?” question. Oh the pain!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Twit 2 on August 19, 2021, 12:32:02 AM
For balance, didn’t Rhys Thomas say he was a cunt on that podcast where he talked about going on a panel show?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: studpuppet on August 19, 2021, 12:39:17 AM
Sean's background laughter in the Tony McCarroll's Classical Gas advert never fails to set me off.

Likewise his reaction to Joe Wilkinson's poem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvz4zqqlCiI).
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Elderly Sumo Prophecy on August 19, 2021, 12:40:54 AM
Did he even like doing crap panel shows? I always got a sort of resigned air about him on them, like he was secretly saying "this is the only way I can make a decent bit of money anymore, and I hate it". Having to listen to Jimmy Carr's mutant laugh for hours on end during 10+ years of recordings must really drain a man.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: idunnosomename on August 19, 2021, 12:45:57 AM
it's a living
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 19, 2021, 12:48:25 AM
Judging by the fun he was having in many of the clips mentioned today then I would say yes, he clearly enjoyed doing them.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Natnar on August 19, 2021, 12:51:06 AM
For balance, didn’t Rhys Thomas say he was a cunt on that podcast where he talked about going on a panel show?
Yeah. For some reason Mark Lamarr didn't like Rhys and him & Lock were being arseholes to him.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Harry Badger on August 19, 2021, 01:09:41 AM
I've not much to add other than to say I'm very saddened by the news. Fifteen Storeys High will always be one of my absolute favourites. If it's not been shared already, some kind soul has uploaded the lot to Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0PP4cRAA7PqMmFsqSOCCXPNlhVrS03oG
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 19, 2021, 01:11:14 AM
Yeah. For some reason Mark Lamarr didn't like Rhys and him & Lock were being arseholes to him.
Lock refused to go along with Thomas' dimbo act, which is unsupportive, but not quite as nasty as Lamarr kicking Thomas down a trapdoor.

I'm watching Cats Does Countdown on More 4 and they've managed to schedule an episode without Lock in it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: derek stitt on August 19, 2021, 01:45:29 AM
Which ep of 15 storeys high has the scene with the gimp saying I ve just had a horrible burger. That bit along with asking the  soft core porn model if the flower in her mums kitchen was a Bizzee Lizee made me laugh really very hard.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 19, 2021, 02:03:52 AM
For balance, didn’t Rhys Thomas say he was a cunt on that podcast where he talked about going on a panel show?

Lock didn’t go along with his dumb guy bit on his second appearance. Then Rhys conflated it with his 90s problems with Mark Lamarr. The timeline doesn’t make sense for a lot of the story, so I just think Rhys is a bit sore about being embarrassed on 8OO10C. Rhys mentioned how nice and supportive Lock was after his first time on the show, so I really think it was just a misunderstanding. Lock might have thought he was playing along in a different way.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 19, 2021, 02:14:22 AM
Did he even like doing crap panel shows? I always got a sort of resigned air about him on them, like he was secretly saying "this is the only way I can make a decent bit of money anymore, and I hate it".

It was in that Harry Hill piece, when Sean was trying to get Harry to come on and he didn't want to and Sean said "It’ll be the easiest money you’ve ever earned Harry!". It's not that that was the only way he could make money, he still did multiple tours while doing panel shows, he just had a very, very bad experience with his sitcom and didn't think the money and bullshit was worth all the work it takes when you can make the same money for far, far less work on panel shows.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: TwinPeaks on August 19, 2021, 03:36:27 AM
Really sad. I was just about to do a rewatch of 15 Storeys High. I always think about a bit in 8 out of 10 Cats, or maybe another panel show, where he talks about "Sean's secret sauce", where he sleepwalks and goes into the cupboards and mixes whatever ingredients together. I can't find it though, does anyone remember it? It was a very funny image.

Lock didn’t go along with his dumb guy bit on his second appearance. Then Rhys conflated it with his 90s problems with Mark Lamarr. The timeline doesn’t make sense for a lot of the story, so I just think Rhys is a bit sore about being embarrassed on 8OO10C. Rhys mentioned how nice and supportive Lock was after his first time on the show, so I really think it was just a misunderstanding. Lock might have thought he was playing along in a different way.
I listened to that podcast a few weeks ago, then watched both of Rhys' appearances. I honestly didn't really notice much difference the second time - I felt that Sean did play along and played the straight man role a bit... I feel like a lot of the silences were just Sean expecting Rhys to expand on his routine more. It obviously would feel more intense when you're actually there, things would be cut out for the airing etc, but I dunno, I don't think it came off as this big humiliating thing for Rhys. I feel for him, it'd be horrible to think that you came off really badly on such a big public appearance, but I don't think he did.
He did mention he saw Lamarr talking to Lock earlier in the day before the taping, and they both turned to look at him funny. In Rhys' shoes I'd definitely feel the same and make that connection but it's more a thing that you'd only notice in those shoes I suppose.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: zomgmouse on August 19, 2021, 04:36:00 AM
Finally watching his stand-up. Starting with his first stand-up show, Live, from 2008. Even the pre-feature introduction is incredibly funny. Gosh.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jsgibble on August 19, 2021, 06:46:02 AM
My heart sank yesterday but of course it was lovely seeing all the nice words about his work. Love 15 Storeys High.

His early stuff isn't known enough really so here's a shoutout for a couple of things:
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Thursday on August 19, 2021, 06:59:58 AM
Lock didn’t go along with his dumb guy bit on his second appearance. Then Rhys conflated it with his 90s problems with Mark Lamarr. The timeline doesn’t make sense for a lot of the story, so I just think Rhys is a bit sore about being embarrassed on 8OO10C. Rhys mentioned how nice and supportive Lock was after his first time on the show, so I really think it was just a misunderstanding. Lock might have thought he was playing along in a different way.

Tony Way was also praising Lock on twitter yesterday... and obviously he's a different person but the fact that it was on the podcast they did that Rhys talked about this, I suspect there's not actually as much anger/bitterness over all this people might be thinking.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 19, 2021, 07:10:24 AM
15SH is one of those things that sorely deserves to have the remaster treatment but unfortunately probably never will. Watching it on YouTube is shite, the dim lighting and artful sound editing are completely lost in the shitty compression of those uploads. The show is a fuckin work of art from end to end, if there was ever an opportunity to binge all 6 hours of it at a cinema screening I’d be on it like a rash.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: DrGreggles on August 19, 2021, 07:42:08 AM
Sean as 'Johnny Cash'
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jLdhq6HVIv7svj9CbgatcCbSc80CLKev/view
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: notjosh on August 19, 2021, 07:51:31 AM
Is This About Crop Circles - unbroadcast sketch show pilot by him and Bill Bailey made for Channel 4 in 2001. Uploaded by the director to vimeo: https://vimeo.com/168297809

Wow, never even heard about this, thanks!

The 2003 album is his best released stand-up I think - the budgie routine is a brilliant bit of meta-commentary on stand-up.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jobotic on August 19, 2021, 08:05:06 AM
15SH is one of those things that sorely deserves to have the remaster treatment but unfortunately probably never will. Watching it on YouTube is shite, the dim lighting and artful sound editing are completely lost in the shitty compression of those uploads. The show is a fuckin work of art from end to end, if there was ever an opportunity to binge all 6 hours of it at a cinema screening I’d be on it like a rash.

I bought the box set of both series from the BBC shop for a fiver. This was a few years ago.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Retinend on August 19, 2021, 08:10:52 AM
Can anyone hook me up with a supply of 15SH? I always admired the man as a comedian, but never got around to it. Now would be a good time.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 19, 2021, 08:14:36 AM
I bought the box set of both series from the BBC shop for a fiver. This was a few years ago.


Yeah I’ve got it on DVD somewhere, although my means of playing a DVD on my telly are quite tenuous so I often can’t be arsed. Just moaning here.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: DrGreggles on August 19, 2021, 08:25:37 AM
Can anyone hook me up with a supply of 15SH? I always admired the man as a comedian, but never got around to it. Now would be a good time.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0PP4cRAA7PqMmFsqSOCCXPNlhVrS03oG
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Retinend on August 19, 2021, 08:27:06 AM
Thanks, doc!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 19, 2021, 09:26:37 AM
He did mention he saw Lamarr talking to Lock earlier in the day before the taping, and they both turned to look at him funny. In Rhys' shoes I'd definitely feel the same and make that connection but it's more a thing that you'd only notice in those shoes I suppose.

That's the part of the story that confuses me. He says Lamarr was at the studios doing Buzzcocks, but he'd left Buzzcocks (and all television) about 2 years before this happened. Not to mention, Lamarr had a quite public disdain for Jimmy Carr, so I don't see him hanging around backstage at 8OO10C. I don't think Rhys is just making it up, but maybe confused it with a different event? He was quite drunk when telling the story.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: robhug on August 19, 2021, 09:38:18 AM
Old Sean was getting a bad press in this thread

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,54955.0.html (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,54955.0.html)

its lucky he left it a few years before sadly passing away, timing is everything in comedy.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: lankyguy95 on August 19, 2021, 09:39:26 AM
https://twitter.com/lamarr_mark/status/1428265090139234306?t=47EE5sU-kFWgH8YM0R7GFQ&s=19

Quote
"Incidentally for those rewatching 15 Storeys High, our little in joke when writing was that Vince was young Prince Phillip. When we were stuck, we'd often say ' What would young Prince Phillip do ?' "
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 19, 2021, 10:28:07 AM
Old Sean was getting a bad press in this thread

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,54955.0.html (https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,54955.0.html)

its lucky he left it a few years before sadly passing away, timing is everything in comedy.

Interesting to see the Piers Morgan on HIGNFY clip I nominated in that thread has been taken down since.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jobotic on August 19, 2021, 11:06:55 AM
Nice to think that Ross Noble and Phil Juppitus are never on the TV anymore. Unless they're ill. I hope they're not ill.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BritishHobo on August 19, 2021, 11:44:12 AM
I remember finding him really objectionable in the episode and being inspired to start that thread - I've never seen anything else like that from him though, and I'd be loath to judge him entirely based on one moment from over a decade ago.

Was properly gutted when I saw the story yesterday. Similar to the reaction to Bob Odenkirk's hospitalisation, I think it really says a lot how many people have come out to say such lovely things. It's certainly a shame that Fifteen Storeys High never got the attention it deserves as an all-time-great British sitcom, but it is nice how much love there is for him across the comedy world.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 19, 2021, 01:26:51 PM
Everyone’s an arsehole at some time in their lives, and it’s probably a lot easier to justify being an arsehole when you’re in the chummy thrall of Lamaar, who is a colossal fucking arsehole.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Retinend on August 19, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
even on Twitter, Lamar blocks followers who like without retweeting... the cunt is a master of the art

I mean, it's especially cunty because, although likes don't inherently promote a tweet, they are a minimal degree of engagement that encourages others to be bold and retweet

wow I'm a nerd

I also remember that my first reaction to learning this was, counterintuitively, massive respect for his cojones. Why do we so willingly try to sympathize with the arrogant Uebermensch?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Autopsy Turvey on August 19, 2021, 01:38:37 PM
Shocked and stunned, still. I hadn't seen 15SH for over ten years, but rewatching it last night I'd forgotten quite how brilliant it was, I was laughing pretty much all the way through. It may be the last great British sitcom. When a lugubrious sigh makes you bust a gut you know you're in highly rarefied comic territory.

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Did he even like doing crap panel shows? I always got a sort of resigned air about him on them, like he was secretly saying "this is the only way I can make a decent bit of money anymore, and I hate it".

That resigned air was part of his 'schtick', surely? His apparent sullenness and prickliness was a breath of fresh air on these group-hug team games full of blandly upbeat young circuit chums. Hard to imagine he hated having a regular high-profile platform to spin his imaginative fancies and effortlessly outdo all the other comedians for inventive breadth and ability to surprise and boggle minds.

I asked a stand-up friend about 20 years ago, "who's the best stand-up comedian then?" Without a moment's hesitation he shot back "Sean Lock". After that I started seeing and hearing him all over the place, and understood the resoluteness of the reply.

Mort is lock

Big up the classy but abstruse ironmongery puns!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: peanutbutter on August 19, 2021, 02:22:49 PM
How are his specials? I seem to remember the CD being really good and the first DVD being solid but a noted drop off from the CD. I assume he's done a few since then?

Is there a thread to be made for the best landfill stocking filler standup specials? They def have a rep of being a lot more disposable than their US counterparts  (the difference of being a thing to give when you can't think of a gift versus being a HBO special event) and it's presumably not that warranted asides from the most egregious Special Kay type examples.

Nice to think that Ross Noble and Phil Juppitus are never on the TV anymore. Unless they're ill. I hope they're not ill.
I used to like Ross Noble when I was like 15, I'd say I'd still find him somewhat funny if I revisited. He did seem to be either extremely lazy or had zero clue of how to expand upon a pretty good improvisational whimsy and delivery though so I imagine it runs tired pretty fast, but the raw talent seemed to be there.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 19, 2021, 03:53:56 PM
Stop all the Locks
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 19, 2021, 03:57:24 PM
How are his specials? I seem to remember the CD being really good and the first DVD being solid but a noted drop off from the CD. I assume he's done a few since then?

Somebody mentioned that CH4 are showing one tonight, "Keep It Light" from 2017 which I don't think I've seen. If you head over to Reddit r/Panelshow you may find links to the three DVD shows he's done.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: thundarrshirt on August 19, 2021, 05:19:13 PM
Fifteen storeys high to six feet under. Not sure if his conduct on telly shows is any indication of what he was like "in real life," or where speculation around the topic get us, but his cheerfully villainous persona often felt genuinely disruptive to the comfortably smug tone to a lot of the panel shows he propped up for the latter part of his career. His venomous assessment of the primary school drama club's performances during one of the Big Fat Quizzes was hilarious in its cartoonish cruelty. Never got the was on the wrong side of history, even when he was whispering sweet nothings about Hitler into Miles Jupp's ear between rounds of Countdown.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Famous Mortimer on August 19, 2021, 07:18:36 PM
Nice to think that Ross Noble and Phil Juppitus are never on the TV anymore. Unless they're ill. I hope they're not ill.
Ross Noble just won the Australian version of the Apprentice; he's lived there for years. The fact that all my favourite Aussie comedians seem to worship him makes me sad.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 19, 2021, 08:25:21 PM
Mark Lamarr interviewed about Lock on Radio 2 today and became very emotional, got me welling up n'all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFtfg1rxRHM
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jobotic on August 19, 2021, 08:28:42 PM
Ross Noble just won the Australian version of the Apprentice; he's lived there for years. The fact that all my favourite Aussie comedians seem to worship him makes me sad.

Do know I think I quite liked him when I was young. I'm purely going on his QI performances but that programme is terrible.

Feel a bit bad about using this thread to slag off other people. I mean, they're not funny but time and a place.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Noodle Lizard on August 19, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Mark Lamarr interviewed about Lock on Radio 2 today and became very emotional, got me welling up n'all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFtfg1rxRHM

He's lost two funny Seans before their time within 5 years (Hughes being the other one).
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 19, 2021, 08:37:05 PM
He's lost two funny Seans before their time within 5 years (Hughes being the other one).

Aye, he had a sad quote about Hughes at the time as well:

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“I guess you could have called us both womanisers,” he says. “We were both young, rich and famous. We both had lots of girlfriends. One day he rang me, and it was the only time I remember him reaching out with sadness. He said: ‘I really worry you and I are going to end up being lonely old men. I said: ‘I’m not worried, because I like being alone.’ The big sadness is that he didn’t even get to be old. He just got to be lonely.”
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: gmoney on August 19, 2021, 09:27:56 PM

  • Is This About Crop Circles - unbroadcast sketch show pilot by him and Bill Bailey made for Channel 4 in 2001. Uploaded by the director to vimeo: https://vimeo.com/168297809

Thank you for posting this. I had no idea it existed. It's not the best thing I've ever seen, but it did have some very funny moments, and it was just lovely to see Sean and Bill acting together.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Hank Venture on August 19, 2021, 09:52:35 PM
Lock Less
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jsgibble on August 19, 2021, 10:02:28 PM
Thank you for posting this. I had no idea it existed. It's not the best thing I've ever seen, but it did have some very funny moments, and it was just lovely to see Sean and Bill acting together.

No problem. I only knew about it as Robin Ince tweeted about it once. He also made a tweet referring to it yesterday, saying it would be nice if it was repeated. That tweet has a few hundred likes which in a way is extraordinary when it’s about something as obscure as that.

Lock and Trenaman both wrote on Is It Bill Bailey before that. Lock and Bailey also did some sketches together on the pilot of an obscure sketch show called TV To Go. Coincidentally someone I know was going through a load of VHS tapes, this was a few days ago now, and one of the things on them was that pilot. When they rip it or whatever I’ll upload it to YouTube.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Noodle Lizard on August 19, 2021, 10:03:41 PM
This was one of my favourite Lock moments; relentlessly tearing down one of the most saccharine recurring segments on Big Fat Quiz Of The Year, to the ire/shock of Davina McCall and James Corden. CaB personified and given a platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIANjAm-so

(sorry if it's already been posted)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: dissolute ocelot on August 19, 2021, 10:08:33 PM
Nice to think that Ross Noble and Phil Juppitus are never on the TV anymore. Unless they're ill. I hope they're not ill.
Jupitus is fine. He's studying art at Duncan of Jordanstone College in Dundee. He does collages and draws. Personally, I don't mind his poetry but he was definitely promoted beyond his ability for a time.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: idunnosomename on August 19, 2021, 10:08:47 PM
Nice to think that Ross Noble and Phil Juppitus are never on the TV anymore. Unless they're ill. I hope they're not ill.
Ross Noble was never really everywhere on TV and radio though. he wasn't great at panel shows as he only improvs well when he's running the whole show. i always thought he got a lot of flak for his "whimsy" here back in the 00s but I really did enjoy his live shows.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: the science eel on August 19, 2021, 10:19:17 PM
This stand-up on C4 now is poor stuff
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: ishantbekeepingit on August 20, 2021, 01:20:13 AM
This stand-up on C4 now is poor stuff
Is it the one with the "ladyboy orgasm" bit?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on August 20, 2021, 03:24:48 AM
Thanks to the two people who posted the 2003 stand-up show, didn't know that existed. I was always a bit disappointed with his later stand-up compared to 15SH and the radio shows. The Stewart Lee description of his stand-up posted upthread mentioned one bit from as far back as 1990. Does anyone know if there are any other bootleg recordings of his stand up before 2003 when he was apparently already recognised as one of the best stand-ups by his peers and once did that masturbating over his own poos fucking each other bit? I remember seeing a short clip of his earlier more absurd stand-up - not sure if that was before 2003 -  and it reminded me a bit of Julian Barratt's and Harry Hill's early standup. Even if there are no recordings from that first decade, it would be interesting to hear from anyone who remembers watching his stand-up from back then.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on August 20, 2021, 03:27:43 AM
Incidentally - while people are talking about Ross Noble - does anyone know which CD had his routine about "Lady in Red" where he does a quizzical comparison of the lines 'never seen so many people ask you if you wanted to dance' and 'there's nobody here'.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: zomgmouse on August 20, 2021, 04:36:06 AM
Thanks to the two people who posted the 2003 stand-up show, didn't know that existed. I was always a bit disappointed with his later stand-up compared to 15SH and the radio shows. The Stewart Lee description of his stand-up posted upthread mentioned one bit from as far back as 1990. Does anyone know if there are any other bootleg recordings of his stand up before 2003 when he was apparently already recognised as one of the best stand-ups by his peers and once did that masturbating over his own poos fucking each other bit? I remember seeing a short clip of his earlier more absurd stand-up - not sure if that was before 2003 -  and it reminded me a bit of Julian Barratt's and Harry Hill's early standup. Even if there are no recordings from that first decade, it would be interesting to hear from anyone who remembers watching his stand-up from back then.

Some of his 90s standup can be found in these compilation uploads of "The Comedy Network - Before They Were Famous":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5cdMXCFbaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQiHkR-yECk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjWwy8enpGM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMFnQzDZE54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjwkzZRKv8I

There's more of these that don't include Lock as well (the likes of Stewart Lee, Kevin Eldon, Julian Barratt, Simon Munnery, etc), some good footage in them, for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on August 20, 2021, 04:57:00 AM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: msm on August 20, 2021, 06:42:06 AM
Completely surprised and absolute gutted about this. I was literally walking around the office yesterday thinking about bits from 15 Minutes of Misery and laughing to myself. Wish I'd seen him live now.

In case anyone hasn't heard them, here are his two radio series and the (fantastic) live CD he released in 2003:
https://mega.nz/folder/HbB12a6C#2OibfbEmSDBM1-AAcSoKMw

Just a naturally hilarious man who made even the most mundane panel shows worth watching. I love his two 'carrot in a box' matches against Jon Richardson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E

Cheers
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 20, 2021, 07:37:04 AM
Thanks to the two people who posted the 2003 stand-up show, didn't know that existed. I was always a bit disappointed with his later stand-up compared to 15SH and the radio shows. The Stewart Lee description of his stand-up posted upthread mentioned one bit from as far back as 1990. Does anyone know if there are any other bootleg recordings of his stand up before 2003 when he was apparently already recognised as one of the best stand-ups by his peers and once did that masturbating over his own poos fucking each other bit? I remember seeing a short clip of his earlier more absurd stand-up - not sure if that was before 2003 -  and it reminded me a bit of Julian Barratt's and Harry Hill's early standup. Even if there are no recordings from that first decade, it would be interesting to hear from anyone who remembers watching his stand-up from back then.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y6XZcTUOJJrVU5KEE_k-I1nCsS6vSu6i?usp=sharing

That's all the bootlegs I have, all from Edinburgh shows, one from 1996, one from 2000 and one from 2002. They're bootleg quality, obviously, but mostly listenable. There's a few other odds'n'sods in that folder that haven't been posted yet.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on August 20, 2021, 07:51:50 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 20, 2021, 07:52:37 AM
Mark Lamarr interviewed about Lock on Radio 2 today and became very emotional, got me welling up n'all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFtfg1rxRHM

I know Feltz had to squeeze in all her questions into ten minutes but my, she bulldozes over his answers. It was like she wanted to dominate Lamarr who was uncharacteristically very vulnerable for a change. I wanted to know what his running joke about her with Lock was going to be and she didn't just tread on the punchline but jumped up and down on it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 20, 2021, 10:01:20 AM
Always loved this clip of Lock getting bored of Stephen Fry and Rory McGrath on QI https://youtu.be/-NGNnu-Ut-g
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on August 20, 2021, 10:47:02 AM
Always loved this clip of Lock getting bored of Stephen Fry and Rory McGrath on QI https://youtu.be/-NGNnu-Ut-g
Haha. Thank fuck for Sean Lock.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: notjosh on August 20, 2021, 11:20:01 AM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y6XZcTUOJJrVU5KEE_k-I1nCsS6vSu6i?usp=sharing

That's all the bootlegs I have, all from Edinburgh shows, one from 1996, one from 2000 and one from 2002. They're bootleg quality, obviously, but mostly listenable. There's a few other odds'n'sods in that folder that haven't been posted yet.

Amazing, thanks. Really look forward to hearing the '96 one.

I've pulled together some clips of his early stand up here. All good fun, though I don't think anyone is ever going to come across as one of the greats in a 10 minute telly clip:
https://mega.nz/folder/HG5kCaiK#My8gnoy8oIZxpcEyCQqs1A

Interesting after the Harry Hill article to see how similar his early style is - I'd never made the connection before.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on August 20, 2021, 11:23:22 AM
Nice article about 15 Storeys High with contributions from Martin Trenaman: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/sean-locks-towering-genius-15-storeys-high-sitcom-gem-tossed/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/sean-locks-towering-genius-15-storeys-high-sitcom-gem-tossed/)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 20, 2021, 11:35:13 AM
Amazing, thanks. Really look forward to hearing the '96 one.

I've pulled together some clips of his early stand up here. All good fun, though I don't think anyone is ever going to come across as one of the greats in a 10 minute telly clip:
https://mega.nz/folder/HG5kCaiK#My8gnoy8oIZxpcEyCQqs1A

Interesting after the Harry Hill article to see how similar his early style is - I'd never made the connection before.

I've got his bit from the Comic Relief Rude For A Reason show from 1999 and the video of the Johnny Cash mp3 that was posted earlier, I'll try and upload them later.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: checkoutgirl on August 20, 2021, 12:12:46 PM
He's lost two funny Seans before their time within 5 years (Hughes being the other one).

It's almost karmic for Lamaar being such a colossal knob to so many people for so many years.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jsgibble on August 20, 2021, 12:13:42 PM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y6XZcTUOJJrVU5KEE_k-I1nCsS6vSu6i?usp=sharing

That's all the bootlegs I have, all from Edinburgh shows, one from 1996, one from 2000 and one from 2002. They're bootleg quality, obviously, but mostly listenable. There's a few other odds'n'sods in that folder that haven't been posted yet.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 20, 2021, 07:30:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKghjqGQwXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMy018z697g

That's it for my Lock rarities, I think. That's the vid of Johnny Cash from the Otis Lee Crenshaw show, and his bit from Rude For A reason in 1999.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: neardark on August 20, 2021, 08:01:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKghjqGQwXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMy018z697g

That's it for my Lock rarities, I think. That's the vid of Johnny Cash from the Otis Lee Crenshaw show, and his bit from Rude For A reason in 1999.

These are still private bud
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 20, 2021, 08:09:29 PM
Bollocks. Should be working now.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Goldentony on August 20, 2021, 08:47:59 PM
anyone know if Mark Lamarr was ever rude to Rhys Thomas
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: msm on August 20, 2021, 10:55:49 PM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Y6XZcTUOJJrVU5KEE_k-I1nCsS6vSu6i?usp=sharing

That's all the bootlegs I have, all from Edinburgh shows, one from 1996, one from 2000 and one from 2002. They're bootleg quality, obviously, but mostly listenable. There's a few other odds'n'sods in that folder that haven't been posted yet.
Thanks
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 21, 2021, 03:46:49 PM
Those bootlegs have taught me that comedy audiences sucked absolute shit in the 90s.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 21, 2021, 09:50:50 PM
Another Lock moment I just remembered, when he's singing his favourite songs by The Script. It's somehow extra funny that no one else on the panel apart from Jimmy seems to appreciate how funny it is https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2syzz3
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 23, 2021, 11:02:48 AM
Anyone remember that really fractious travel show he did with Jon Richardson? Would love to see that again. It was made off the back of 8oo10c being suddenly really big.

Turns out this is on YouTube, originally aired on Channel 4 in December 2012.  They clearly weren't close friends.  In the second episode Lock has a go at Richardson for being lazy and judgemental.

https://youtu.be/UqaWWFdA2sM
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 23, 2021, 05:41:05 PM
Just watched the first episode of that, what a miserable prick Jon is. Sean always had a smile on his face and was trying everything, Jon moaned about literally everything. Imagine travelling all that way and there being a party with music and drinking and dancing and culture, and you go and sit in the back of the car to read a fucking book.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: thelittlemango on August 23, 2021, 05:48:05 PM
In the second one Sean has a go at Jon (as mentioned above) during a conversation where Jon says he didn't like the place as there was "no culture". Sean says he loved his time with them and that engaging with them really helped him understand and appreciate that, and that hunting etc. IS their culture and is something they're trying to preserve. That's when he goes in quite hard on Jon with the talk about being lazy and uninterested, you can tell that Jon's dismissal of the people without making any effort genuinely annoyed him and he comes off the much better person.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: bgmnts on August 23, 2021, 05:49:34 PM
See that's strange because wasn't Lock one of the people Rhys Thomas outed as a cynical bully?

Sounds like he was alright.

But to be fair as a non meat eaters who doesnt really enjoy the banal revelry that a lot of people do, I can wholly empathise with Jon in some cases.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: thelittlemango on August 23, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
But to be fair as a non meat eaters who doesnt really enjoy the banal revelry that a lot of people do, I can wholly empathise with Jon in some cases.

Yeah that's fair, it did seem pretty mad for a vegan comedian to be on a show where so much of it involved meat, hunting and everything related to that, I wonder how much he knew about it in advance.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 23, 2021, 06:32:33 PM
Yeah, I don't really blame Jon for being uncomfortable. He shouldn't have agreed to the show, though. But as it's television, it was probably an "odd couple" story that was partially orchestrated.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 23, 2021, 08:36:46 PM
The best bit was Sean's glee while Jon was trying to do his "an onion" routine to the cowboys.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: gmoney on August 23, 2021, 10:01:17 PM
Yeah that's fair, it did seem pretty mad for a vegan comedian to be on a show where so much of it involved meat, hunting and everything related to that, I wonder how much he knew about it in advance.

I think it's mentioned he'd only given up meat 6 weeks before filming, so presumably he'd signed up for it before that.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: bgmnts on August 23, 2021, 10:03:49 PM
The best bit was Sean's glee while Jon was trying to do his "an onion" routine to the cowboys.

To be honest I'm amazed he actually used that as material for a gig. It's a nothing thought? We all probably have those every day.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 23, 2021, 10:20:06 PM
To be honest I'm amazed he actually used that as material for a gig. It's a nothing thought? We all probably have those every day.

Well, to be fair, he's a pretty terrible comedian. And he was all pissed off when a reviewer said it was too weak to be material (not just for a gig, that was on his dvd) and Sean asked him to do the bit and just looked at him and said "Is that it?" I did have a go at watching one of his DVDs once so I can easily believe he thought it was a killer bit of material.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Noodle Lizard on August 24, 2021, 04:53:11 AM
Imagine travelling all that way and there being a party with music and drinking and dancing and culture, and you go and sit in the back of the car to read a fucking book.

Replace “read a book” with “scroll CaB” and you’ve probably described most of us here.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 24, 2021, 11:46:13 AM
I watched the first episode of 15 Storeys High last night. Aside from a retroactively bleak exchange near the end[1] it's kind of remarkable how the dingy visual style belies how joyously silly it actually is. Although daaaaaark comedy was the style at the time, I wonder if that mismatch had anything to do with why the show wasn't promoted as well as it should have been.
 1. "Why don't you like being touched, Vince?"
"Do you remember Jim'll Fix it? ..."
(if you take it out of context, as I just have)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 24, 2021, 01:29:12 PM
The best bit was Sean's glee while Jon was trying to do his "an onion" routine to the cowboys.

That definitely is the highlight. It reminds me of the dynamic Norm Macdonald had with Adam Eget on his podcast. Also love how Sean did actually manage to tell a joke that made the Creole cowboys laugh.

Speaking of Norm, I remember Sean Lock picked him as one of the best comedians that British audiences wouldn't know. Think one of his other choices was Tony Law.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ambient Sheep on August 24, 2021, 05:55:27 PM
I watched the first episode of 15 Storeys High last night. Aside from a retroactively bleak exchange near the end[1] it's kind of remarkable how the dingy visual style belies how joyously silly it actually is. Although daaaaaark comedy was the style at the time, I wonder if that mismatch had anything to do with why the show wasn't promoted as well as it should have been.
 1. "Why don't you like being touched, Vince?"
"Do you remember Jim'll Fix it? ..."
(if you take it out of context, as I just have)

Yeah, I watched the first one on Sunday night, and I was instantly struck by the horrible colour grading.  Inside the dingy flat is arguably justifiable, but even outside on a sunny day it still manages to be this horrible browny-grey.  Bad decision, whoever's that was.

Aside from that, it was good, but I must confess that if I'd've just randomly stumbled across it while channel-hopping, I would have found the look of it so instantly offputting that I'd've probably turned over immediately.  Shame.

As it is, I'll be watching the rest.  R.I.P. Sean.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 24, 2021, 06:01:19 PM
Yeah, I watched the first one on Sunday night, and I was instantly struck by the horrible colour grading.  Inside the dingy flat is arguably justifiable, but even outside on a sunny day it still manages to be this horrible browny-grey.  Bad decision, whoever's that was.

Aside from that, it was good, but I must confess that if I'd've just randomly stumbled across it while channel-hopping, I would have found the look of it so instantly offputting that I'd've probably turned over immediately.  Shame.

As it is, I'll be watching the rest.  R.I.P. Sean.

It was mentioned in Martin Trenaman's tribute piece, Lock wanted it to look like a Swedish art film, he had a proper vision for it. And I did exactly what you said, I stumbled across it one night, I think they were showing one episode on BBC2 for some reason, and I flipped right past it. As it is, it's right up there with my favourite sitcoms ever, I think I got round to watching it after reading some praise on here.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Barry Admin on August 24, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Are you guys watching it on YouTube?
I never found the visual style off-putting, and wonder if that might explain the difference.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 24, 2021, 06:25:12 PM
It's weird, I don't think of the style as off-putting in the slightest now, maybe it was due to watching it 20 years ago on a shitty tv, i just remember flicking on to a scene in a flat and it looked so dark and bleak so i just carried on flicking.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: crankshaft on August 24, 2021, 06:31:41 PM
Had my order for 15 Storeys High cancelled by Music Magpie, annoyingly. A cursory glance on eBay reveals several motherless fucks selling it for £60 and upwards.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Pink Gregory on August 24, 2021, 06:37:37 PM
Had my order for 15 Storeys High cancelled by Music Magpie, annoyingly. A cursory glance on eBay reveals several motherless fucks selling it for £60 and upwards.

I got it a few years ago from CEX for a few pounds quid.

Worth a try, maybe they don't know about it.

Got both series of Look Around You, Time Trumpet, all of Big Train and some other stuff I'm sure for less than a tenner.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: neveragain on August 24, 2021, 08:27:48 PM
Though I can understand why it would put people off, I love the horrible look of 15 Storeys. The pallid colour, the locked-off camera, the general lack of close-ups. It's integral to the feeling of the show. That it's gloriously silly is a nice surprise. Anyone else who's fond of the look and tone should check out the films of Roy Andersson, who is clearly the influence.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: petrilTanaka on August 24, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
yeah, it makes me feel like so many Saturday mornings that seemed dull but were full of vague potential when I was young
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 24, 2021, 09:28:22 PM
Yes, the similarity in visual styles of Roy Andersson's Songs From the Second Floor and 15 Storeys High is striking.  Very bold influence for a sitcom.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/d0/6e/a8d06e68edd975f193f39a7cf8682cbf.jpg)

(https://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/9674697/760full-15-storeys-high-screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Mobius on August 24, 2021, 09:30:39 PM
^That's cool! The first screenshot could almost be Toby Jones characters flat from 15 Storeys

I just watched it the other day and it looked fine!

I used to own the DVD of this and I remember the intro just being the sound of a lift going up, but when I watch it online now it has a jaunty intro - this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF58cOGfzAs) - does anyone know why/when they changed it or added that intro?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on August 24, 2021, 09:36:07 PM
^That's cool! The first screenshot could almost be Toby Jones characters flat from 15 Storeys

I just watched it the other day and it looked fine!

I used to own the DVD of this and I remember the intro just being the sound of a lift going up, but when I watch it online now it has a jaunty intro - this one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF58cOGfzAs) - does anyone know why/when they changed it or added that intro?

Music clearance for the DVD, probably. I assume the actual goldfinger theme was in the appropriate episode originally as well.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 24, 2021, 09:39:43 PM
There were a few different intros as i recall, one of them was House of Fun by Madness played backwards.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: MrPlugg on August 25, 2021, 12:57:34 AM
I’ve read about that Rhys Thomas podcast on here for years but never listened to it. Which one is it again? Some historic comedy beef might be what I need for my insomnia.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: msm on August 25, 2021, 03:22:17 AM
Can't remember what episode

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/thomas-way-podcast/id489814891
Though feel I  have looked on Sean unfavourably after , and it seems unfounded/ unjustified   now . silly me .


Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Barry Admin on August 25, 2021, 03:42:44 AM
The old thread may help in narrowing it down; from a quick look, it would seem to be within the first five episodes.

https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=31287.0
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 25, 2021, 07:28:02 AM
It's weird, I don't think of the style as off-putting in the slightest now, maybe it was due to watching it 20 years ago on a shitty tv, i just remember flicking on to a scene in a flat and it looked so dark and bleak so i just carried on flicking.

“It’s your telly, you’ve got the brightness turned right down!”

“... Is it on?”

I watched the “Keep It Light” standup last night which has been uploaded to All 4 as a tribute to Sean. Shame they picked such a relatively rubbish show from the final years of his life to pay respects really, it wasn’t great at all and there’s a fucking ad break spliced into it every 10 minutes which demolishes the pace entirely.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: zomgmouse on August 25, 2021, 07:31:29 AM
Sean appeared in this comedy roast of Bruce Forsyth and was I think the best of the lot: https://youtu.be/ZzBt2Zu-rBE
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: pigamus on August 25, 2021, 07:45:27 AM
I even remember the ad that BBC2 used to run for 15 Storeys High

“Baldy!”
“I’m not bald!”

I started watching off the back of that I think
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on August 25, 2021, 08:09:47 AM
I even remember the ad that BBC2 used to run for 15 Storeys High

“Baldy!”
“I’m not bald!”

I started watching off the back of that I think

There were adverts for 15 Storeys High?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Barry Admin on August 25, 2021, 09:55:08 AM
I know you guys hate him now, but I'd like to point out that Armando Iannucci frequently and noisily went to bat for 15 Storeys High in the press at the time. Just worth remembering, I think.

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Armando Iannucci on 15 Storeys High
(BBC 2002)

This comedy series was on the BBC fairly recently. It was written by and featured Sean Lock, the comedian, and was set in a block of flats. A strange blend of gritty realism and mad surrealism, and very, very funny. It's difficult to describe. Sean basically shared this flat with a brilliant actor called Benedict Wong, who played the part of a not quite stupid but very innocent - hysterically innocent - flatmate. The show was always scheduled at something like 59 minutes past one in the morning because I think the people in the BBC didn't really understand it. If you speak to other comedians they'll sing its praises to high heaven, and then just shake their heads in bewilderment that nothing came of it. The first series is out on DVD, but I hope they bring the second series out as well.

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15 Storeys High is a great unsung comedy, says Armando Iannucci.

Life is full of mysteries, such as “where do they put the emergency exits in the Channel Tunnel?”. But for me, one of the greatest is why isn’t 15 Storeys High recognised as the comic classic it is? The second series, which starts on BBC Two this week, has been dumped, like an insane relative of the Royal Family, out of sight where no one is likely to notice (late on Sunday nights).

In case you know nothing about 15 Storeys High, it’s a quietly absurd sitcom starring Sean Lock as Vince, a grumpy swimming pool attendant who lives in a tower block with a second-generation Chinese northerner called Errol, played by Benedict Wong.

It’s filmed in a blanched-out sequence of static, grainy shots that trap you into thinking you’re about to get some grim kitchen-sink piece of social commentary. In fact, what you get is a joyously escalating series of warm and hilarious plots prompted by the inconsequential. My favourite memory from the first series is of Errol peeling off a bit of loose wallpaper in the bathroom, only to end up stripping the room bare and backing out of the flat with all the wallpaper down his trousers, his bum now enormous and crinkling, trying to pretend to Vince that nothing had happened.

Even little moments of dialogue burst out of control, such as Vince persuading Errol not to buy goldfish: “You get one goldfish and it’s lonely. You get two and they don’t get on. You get a third and it’s two on one. You get a fourth and it’s a borstal.”

15 Storeys High is difficult to describe, because it is unlike any other sitcom. The last comedy I can remember that arrived with such a perfect, idiosyncratic and fully formed comic world of its own was Father Ted. It’s that good. I want you to watch it so much it hurts.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jittlebags on August 25, 2021, 10:34:01 AM
Just to add a couple of small items to his resume..

1 Dec 1998. 'Aternative comedian' in Make Mary Merry section of Radio Shuttleworth S1, E5.
15 Dec 2005. Harvey the Harpendon Plumber in Ed Reardon's Week S3, E1 The Name Check
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Small Potatoes on August 25, 2021, 11:09:07 AM
Had my order for 15 Storeys High cancelled by Music Magpie, annoyingly. A cursory glance on eBay reveals several motherless fucks selling it for £60 and upwards.

I’ve just had the exact same thing happen with another eBay seller, claiming it was posted but they will offer a refund. Lying bastard. Looks like the full series is going for SEVENTY-FIVE QUID at the minute. That’ll teach me to give away my previous copy.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on August 25, 2021, 11:25:53 AM
My Grace & Favour DVD never turned up after Frank Thornton died.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jobotic on August 25, 2021, 12:26:17 PM
That's because he died on his way to post it
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 25, 2021, 12:30:21 PM
There were adverts for 15 Storeys High?
I don't remember any. The first I heard of it was when Lock appeared on Room 101.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: studpuppet on August 25, 2021, 12:58:06 PM
I’ve just had the exact same thing happen with another eBay seller, claiming it was posted but they will offer a refund. Lying bastard. Looks like the full series is going for SEVENTY-FIVE QUID at the minute. That’ll teach me to give away my previous copy.

I have a Series 1 DVD and thought it would be nice to have the second series as well, so bought one off eBay for £8 (about £3 more than they were pre-posthumously), and got this message (bold is my emphasis):

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Thank you for your purchase.

Unfortunately we have had an issue with our automated stock updater as this item is not currently in stock and should not have been listed yet.

We are expecting delivery of our stock within the next week, however as yet we do not have an exact date to when this would be.

If this is not an urgent purchase and you are happy to wait until then we can hold your order for you and dispatch when our stock is received.

Alternatively, if you need it urgently or would prefer to purchase elsewhere, I can arrange a cancellation request be sent instead?

Please accept my apologies for any inconvenience caused.

Either they had multiple listings and not enough units, or they realised they could put the price up and were hoping I'd cancel...
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: icehaven on August 25, 2021, 01:15:18 PM
I’ve just had the exact same thing happen with another eBay seller, claiming it was posted but they will offer a refund. Lying bastard. Looks like the full series is going for SEVENTY-FIVE QUID at the minute. That’ll teach me to give away my previous copy.

Hope the BBC stick it up on iplayer and pull the rug from the gouging fuckers.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BritishHobo on August 25, 2021, 01:21:46 PM
Charlie Brooker raved about it on Screenwipe as well, I remember. It is mad how neglected it was. Why fucking bother making it at all? The knowledge that he had a third series fully written is ENRAGING. Never made because they never actually bothered to give the show the opportunity to become successful in the first place.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 25, 2021, 01:26:26 PM
It's very easy to see why he was so upset about the whole thing and fucked off to panel shows instead, to put that much work into something, have it almost universally praised and to be treated like that must have hurt.

Was there really a third series written? Fuck, that's makes it even sadder.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jsgibble on August 25, 2021, 01:42:07 PM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries
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Removed
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on August 25, 2021, 01:47:13 PM
I sold the DVD to Music Magpie for FORTY FUCKING PENCE and now it's worth SEVENTY POUNDS?! Good CHRIST.

I ripped it but not the commentaries, so will grab that, cheers jsgibble.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Small Potatoes on August 25, 2021, 04:03:07 PM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

You're an absolute star - it's the commentaries I really wanted to hear again.

The seller I spoke of emailed to say that if another one comes into stock they will email me and honour the original price. They're obviously lying and I'll never hear from the cunt again.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: pigamus on August 25, 2021, 04:18:33 PM
I don't remember any. The first I heard of it was when Lock appeared on Room 101.

It was that bit I’ve just quoted, where the kids are shouting nonsensical abuse at Vince. I thought, that looks interesting, and so it proved. How often they ran those trails, no idea.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: crankshaft on August 25, 2021, 07:27:17 PM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ambient Sheep on August 25, 2021, 08:50:50 PM
It's very easy to see why he was so upset about the whole thing and fucked off to panel shows instead, to put that much work into something, have it almost universally praised and to be treated like that must have hurt.

sickasapike basically said as much (they were mates), in a post I keep meaning to dig out.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ambient Sheep on August 25, 2021, 08:59:04 PM
Are you guys watching it on YouTube?
I never found the visual style off-putting, and wonder if that might explain the difference.

Mine was from a torrent, I don't know its original source.

I too am awaiting the DVD boxset, ordered via Amazon from someone called "Charley's" for £12.04 either the day he died or the day after, I forget.  (Had been meaning to check it out for ages anyway, as it gets the same level of praise on here as Inside No. 9 and Taskmaster, both of which I checked out and loved too.)

Allegedly it was posted last Friday but still holding my breath, especially given other people's experience.  I'll have a look if/when it arrives but from what I can gather it is meant to look like that.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 25, 2021, 09:06:42 PM
sickasapike basically said as much (they were mates), in a post I keep meaning to dig out.

So did Mark LaMarr in one of his recent radio appearances.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 25, 2021, 09:24:31 PM
Are you guys watching it on YouTube?
I never found the visual style off-putting, and wonder if that might explain the difference.

Although I saw it at the time and knew it had been desaturated and looked dingy, I ended up buying the dvd's because of how bad all the versions on youtube etc looked.

It still looks like a dodgy rip on the dvd's, I guess it's the effect in itself often almost looks like a washed-out early-2000's 'camera in the cinema' pirate job.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 25, 2021, 09:32:00 PM
Charlie Brooker raved about it on Screenwipe as well, I remember. It is mad how neglected it was. Why fucking bother making it at all? The knowledge that he had a third series fully written is ENRAGING. Never made because they never actually bothered to give the show the opportunity to become successful in the first place.

The bbc made ridiculous decisions at the time, both on BBC Three (commision some genuinely interesting comedies and give them a graveyard slot while carpet bombing the schedules with 2 pints of lager) and then stuff on BBC Two was getting fucked over by the fact Jane Root was dumbing things down.

The experience seems similar to what Stewart Lee wrote about directiong Attention Scum! around the same time:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/mar/12/mondaymediasection.bbc
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: imitationleather on August 25, 2021, 09:33:52 PM
Learning there's a third series of 15 Storeys High that never got made has seriously ruined my day.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: non capisco on August 25, 2021, 11:05:34 PM
Learning there's a third series of 15 Storeys High that never got made has seriously ruined my day.

Yeah. That is brutal news. Fuck.

COME WIPE YOUR TEARS ON ME COAT!
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on August 26, 2021, 12:22:03 AM
It's really starting to get to me that 'Comedian Sean Lock last video' is still the first thumbnail in my youtube recommendations. I didn't even like him.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: msm on August 26, 2021, 01:10:22 AM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

great the only thing I like as much as watching comedy is watching people talking about comedy , also had my order for the DVD cancelled .
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: msm on August 26, 2021, 01:13:02 AM
Learning there's a third series of 15 Storeys High that never got made has seriously ruined my day.
BUGGER
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 26, 2021, 07:27:17 AM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

Fucking hell thank you so much.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on August 26, 2021, 09:20:03 AM
Stewart Lee's tribute to Sean from his latest newsletter:

I'm going to end on a note about Sean Lock, as these days not posting anything on Social Media, due to not actually being on social media, can be taken as callous indifference, and there tends to be a rush to comment in the light of any loss.

My condolences to his family and friends. S Lock always felt like he was in the year above me, due to me starting as a regular circuit comedian in 1989, and him being about 18 months ahead of me, so I never knew him in the way I did contemporaries like Harry Hill or Simon Munnery.

I liked the way S Lock combined whimsy and surrealism with casual arrogance and furious belligerence.

He did a routine - only once I think - at the Red Rose circa 1991 that is one of the funniest, most scatological, most surreal, and curiously the most humane, I ever saw and it made me weep with laughter, alone. It was about him doing stools in the shape of genitals, and then masturbating over them as they bumped together in the toilet bowl, an incident he relayed to the audience as if it were regrettable but also somehow understandably inevitable. S Lock thought this new bit was rubbish and never did it again, and whenever I asked him about it, and said it was the best thing he ever did, I think he thought I was being sarcastic, which often happens when I am being sincere. I thought 15 Storeys High was brilliant, one of the great British sit-coms, and like many I despaired of the BBC's poor treatment of it.

I loved it and yet I could rarely find out when it was on due to sudden unpublicized rescheduling, back in the pre-iplayer days. I remember saying to S Lock that I couldn't believe how radical the camerawork was in the 1st series and couldn't quite believe they had had the guts to submit it. I think Sean despaired about what happened to the series too, and so did the co-writers Mark Lamarr and Martin Trenaman I expect. I remember Armando really lobbying for it in the press.

Its white working class world was exactly the sort of landscape the BBC now beats itself up about not accommodating, but 15 Storey's towerblock vistas were more Vladimir and Estragon than Danny Dyer and Eastenders.

It suits my view of things to think that it was this despair that drove S Lock into arms of panel shows, but there he stood head and shoulders above the form, like a tall man in a ditch. It suits my view of him to think that, having found himself shipwrecked upon panel show island, he chose to beautify it as best he could, often coming close to subverting the genre. I doubt he liked me especially and on the few occasions we did meet we always seemed to be talking at cross purposes, usually ending in some misunderstanding, though we barely encountered each other this century. S Lock would not be drawn into criticizing other lesser but better known talents' debt to his work, even when it was painfully obvious and borderline criminal.

He once advised me at length on his methods of avoiding post-show drinking, which involved hot baths and camper vans respectively, and I wish I had paid more attention. Like a lot of the free jazz types I know, and despite his dabblings in art with the film maker Andrew Kotting in the '90s and his avowed desire to make 15 Storeys look like a Nordic art film, S Lock would not discuss the idea that his work was anything other than entertainment, not with me anyway, but I have been told that I do tend to over-analyse things.

The amount of effort S Lock (and his writers) put into his panel show appearances, which left me astonished in my naivety the only time I ever tried to fit the square peg of me into the round hole of 8 Out Of 10 Cats (I thought it was all improvised!), contradicted this apparent casualness. In about 2005 I was trying to escape Avalon management, a solid career move of which S Lock was an early pioneer ("You're breaking these kids' hearts", I remember him saying to the company's promoters in Edinburgh in '95 or so as they ran another hapless 20-something hopeful into insurmountable debt). I was in an Indian restaurant in Nottingham with S Lock and D Kitson and I was trying to persuade D Kitson to manage me as his 'client', as I wanted to be able to reach the small but discerning audiences he did, and without doing any television or publicity.

S Lock said we were a pair of fucking idiots. I don't know why he was so annoyed, but wonder if he took my attempt to eschew popular mechanisms as a personal criticism. My favorite of S Lock's stage outfits was a green Riddler costume he wore in Edinburgh's Pleasance cabaret bar, but he always looked cool in a proto-Britpop Jarvis kind of way.

My favorite routine of his remains the aforesaid one where he masturbates over genital shaped pieces of excrement which are floating in a toilet. My favorite anecdote concerning him comes from Leicester Sq Theatre stage manager Jason Tribe, via tour manager James Hingley, and concerns a tramp, a dog, an open fire escape, and Liam Gallagher, but it is not mine to share.

S Lock was on the list of comedians to take my kids to see when they were old enough so they knew what good stand up was, which we have already begun working through, and which just got one shorter. I wish he had done another project like 15 Storeys High and whoever kept fucking up its scheduling should be ashamed, but it is hard work to build a world from the ground up twice. The last time we saw S Lock, out for a walk on a Spring day, he looked very unwell indeed but told us it was long covid.

The first two heavy reggae UB40 albums, on which the saxophone of the also recently departed Brian Travers was the lead instrument, are also superb in a way people who only know their pop career won't believe.

But when UB40 went mainstream they sadly didn't do it with any of the style and subversion S Lock, the rat in panel show comedy's kitchen, did.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jobotic on August 26, 2021, 09:21:34 AM
Can't remember if it was Pool Kids or Dead Swan but who played the bloke who sings "Good King Wecenslas" when he's playing the They're Coming To Take Me Away board game? He's brilliant.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 26, 2021, 09:42:16 AM
Quote
My favorite anecdote concerning him comes from Leicester Sq Theatre stage manager Jason Tribe, via tour manager James Hingley, and concerns a tramp, a dog, an open fire escape, and Liam Gallagher, but it is not mine to share.

Fuck's sake Stewart, why even mention it then?

Nice tribute despite that.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Mollusk on August 26, 2021, 09:42:46 AM
God I’m still really cut up about this. Reading that Stewart Lee excerpt there had me welling up.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: kalowski on August 26, 2021, 09:44:53 AM
Very odd that he refers to him as S Lock throughout, like a school report from a 1920s boarding school.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 26, 2021, 09:52:58 AM
Very odd that he refers to him as S Lock throughout, like a school report from a 1920s boarding school.

I think it's because he is often called S Lee.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 26, 2021, 09:55:37 AM
I did note in Keep It Light that S Lock performed almost the exact same joke about "difficult to imagine a more tax-avoiding scenario" as S Lee. Not impossible that they came up with it independently, but I wondered which came first.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 26, 2021, 10:39:56 AM
Can't remember if it was Pool Kids or Dead Swan but who played the bloke who sings "Good King Wecenslas" when he's playing the They're Coming To Take Me Away board game? He's brilliant.

That was Rob Rouse, I think he was more of a stand up than an actor at that time.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: lb99 on August 26, 2021, 11:24:28 AM
Fuck's sake Stewart, why even mention it then?

Nice tribute despite that.

It's a joke, isn't it?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Barry Admin on August 26, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
Great tribute from S Lee, thanks for sharing that Wayman.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 26, 2021, 12:21:33 PM
Always liked that story of Lock telling Kitson and Lee they're idiots. As much as I love all three, I can imagine eavesdropping on that conversation at the time made them sound like a right pair of pretentious twerps.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 26, 2021, 12:53:35 PM
In fairness, Lee does claim (and it would appear to be valid) that he tries to satisfy demand on his tours and will put extra dates on if he looks like he could fill them (he added a second night in Glasgow for instance). Whereas I feel like Kitson actively thrives on a reputation of scarcity, this would also be backed up by how he's quite protective over the live experience, rarely releasing recordings etc.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: neveragain on August 26, 2021, 01:01:17 PM
Can't remember if it was Pool Kids or Dead Swan but who played the bloke who sings "Good King Wecenslas" when he's playing the They're Coming To Take Me Away board game? He's brilliant.

I find that section genuinely unsettling... Which is good.
Toby Jones' strangulated scream when Paul Putner farts in his flat is also distressing but hilarious.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Uncle TechTip on August 26, 2021, 01:13:28 PM
I'm glad i was reminded of him ending a show dressed as Riddler, i saw him do this and whilst i remember nothing about the routine, i do remember his cock bulging out of the costume and being something of a distraction. A Sean Lock Cock Block.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: dissolute ocelot on August 26, 2021, 01:24:16 PM
In fairness, Lee does claim (and it would appear to be valid) that he tries to satisfy demand on his tours and will put extra dates on if he looks like he could fill them (he added a second night in Glasgow for instance).
And then Lee mocks the audiences of the additional shows for not being real fans. (I don't think S Lee needed career advice from S Lock.)
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: buttgammon on August 26, 2021, 01:44:02 PM
I'm at my mum's house, where I left my 15 Storeys High DVDs. I started rewatching them on YouTube but something was lost, so I'm delighted to be able to see them again in this format.

Can't remember if it was Pool Kids or Dead Swan but who played the bloke who sings "Good King Wecenslas" when he's playing the They're Coming To Take Me Away board game? He's brilliant.

"You're allowed to wear a belt".

This is a particularly favourite bit of mine for some reason, it gets stuck in my head.

I find that section genuinely unsettling... Which is good.
Toby Jones' strangulated scream when Paul Putner farts in his flat is also distressing but hilarious.

Also this (and then the shot of Putner in the bath playing under the credits).
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on August 26, 2021, 03:43:00 PM
In fairness, Lee does claim (and it would appear to be valid) that he tries to satisfy demand on his tours and will put extra dates on if he looks like he could fill them (he added a second night in Glasgow for instance). Whereas I feel like Kitson actively thrives on a reputation of scarcity, this would also be backed up by how he's quite protective over the live experience, rarely releasing recordings etc.

I don't fault either of them for having that approach, I can just only imagine how it sounded in passing conversation at a time before they were so critically acclaimed.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Barry Admin on August 26, 2021, 04:09:12 PM
I'd actually been referencing Sean Lock on here this past wee while, specifically his appearance in the documentary that was made about Newman and Baddiel playing Wembley.

"I'm not bitter" - couldn't tell you a single other thing about that show, but god, I've.carried that with me a long time now. He was just effortlessly hilarious even then, despite what little we saw of him.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on August 27, 2021, 10:13:10 AM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

Thank you so much for this. The uploads on YouTube look like utter shit.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Culture Bunker on August 27, 2021, 10:23:17 AM
He was in the series 'Newman and Baddiel in Pieces' too - recurring role as a crap nature show presenter who kills the endangered animals and one or two other parts. He played an estate agent in Newman's sketch about trying to find somewhere new to live - "but it's in this bedroom that your girlfriend will lock herself in and say 'I'm not coming out until you've calmed down'...". Had he done any other TV before that?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Peter St. John on August 27, 2021, 04:41:27 PM
Looks like 15 Storeys High is going up on iPlayer tonight.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: beanheadmcginty on August 27, 2021, 05:22:22 PM
Interesting story from this week's Popbitch:


"About ten years ago, Sean Lock was being considered for a part in a British indie film. The American execs attached to the project had never heard of him, so the director sent over a bunch of TV clips to make a case for his casting.

It worked a treat. The Americans all loved him and got fully behind the idea. The only problem was that Sean was having a bit of trouble making the shoot dates. In the end, despite everyone's best efforts, they just couldn't make their schedules align. The Americans were particularly sad about it, as they'd really taken to Sean and were convinced he was perfect for the part.

The actor who ended up taking his place instead? Billy Zane."

Anybody know the film?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 27, 2021, 05:35:37 PM
Looks like 15 Storeys High is going up on iPlayer tonight.

Saw this confirmed. Going up at 7pm tonight.

https://twitter.com/skillagesteve/status/1431279184043778054?s=21

Shame it’s taken till after he’s died to go on the iplayer, but still great that more people will get to see it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Alberon on August 27, 2021, 05:36:26 PM
Interesting story from this week's Popbitch:


"About ten years ago, Sean Lock was being considered for a part in a British indie film. The American execs attached to the project had never heard of him, so the director sent over a bunch of TV clips to make a case for his casting.

It worked a treat. The Americans all loved him and got fully behind the idea. The only problem was that Sean was having a bit of trouble making the shoot dates. In the end, despite everyone's best efforts, they just couldn't make their schedules align. The Americans were particularly sad about it, as they'd really taken to Sean and were convinced he was perfect for the part.

The actor who ended up taking his place instead? Billy Zane."

Anybody know the film?

This one, perhaps?

'Flutter'

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1579951/?ref_=vp_back

Zane played the role 'Dentist'. He's not in the trailer on Imdb, but I can see how Lock would have fitted into a role like that.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on August 27, 2021, 05:51:47 PM
Saw this confirmed. Going up at 7pm tonight.

https://twitter.com/skillagesteve/status/1431279184043778054?s=21

Shame it’s taken till after he’s died to go on the iplayer, but still great that more people will get to see it.

A nice 'fuck you' to the people trying to profit off the DVDs.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Magnum Valentino on August 27, 2021, 07:32:19 PM
I wonder is in different condition to the DVDs given they haven't the same compression/space limitations to factor in
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ingsoc on August 27, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
Looks like 15 Storeys High is going up on iPlayer tonight.

Complete with laugh track on episode 6 of series 1?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: bigfatheart on August 27, 2021, 08:14:07 PM
Almost certainly taken down once one of the cuntier papers gets wind of the (innocuous) Jim'll Fix It reference.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 27, 2021, 08:23:29 PM
Complete with laugh track on episode 6 of series 1?

That's a weird one. I can only imagine the beeb did that to try and make it 'better' as they clearly didn't like it. That's the first I've heard about a laugh track being put on there though, I don't recall any talk about a laugh track on broadcast episodes before.
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Post by: jsgibble on August 27, 2021, 08:42:59 PM
Ah, that's interesting. Dead Swan was the unbroadcast pilot, so it's a bit different to the rest of series 1. I remember thinking there were a few jokes from the radio show in there that were relatively unchanged compared to how the rest of the series uses stuff from the radio series.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on August 27, 2021, 08:46:16 PM
Does that mean the iPlayer Dead Swan is the pilot version? The DVD one has the proper opening titles and no laugh track. I think the iPlayer versions look slightly nicer than my DVD rips but the wrong Dead Swan is NO GOOD THANKS
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 27, 2021, 09:21:31 PM
Not sure if it’s the same for everyone, but series 2 episode 2 seems to be missing. It’s the car boot and pigeon shit episode. Any idea why this may have been preemptively pulled?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Dead Soon on August 27, 2021, 09:30:59 PM
Not sure if it’s the same for everyone, but series 2 episode 2 seems to be missing. It’s the car boot and pigeon shit episode. Any idea why this may have been preemptively pulled?

Did a quick scan. Heavy use of weed is depicted, one scene where two cops are rolling and forcing delinquents to smoke it all. Has something of this ilk happened 'out there' in the real world recently or some shit?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: imitationleather on August 27, 2021, 09:33:50 PM
That's a shame because the weed-smoking kids in the lift are very funny.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on August 27, 2021, 09:36:41 PM
Episode 2.2 is currently there and playing on iplayer for me.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 27, 2021, 09:36:56 PM
Did a quick scan. Heavy use of weed is depicted, one scene where two cops are rolling and forcing delinquents to smoke it all. Has something of this ilk happened 'out there' in the real world recently or some shit?

Just got a tweet reply from the iplayer editor guy :

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It is available on iPlayer via web and so on, but I think Sky might have issues with the title which means it's not showing it

Murdoch doesn’t like swearing I guess the old cunt.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Uncle TechTip on August 27, 2021, 10:29:05 PM
Just got a tweet reply from the iplayer editor guy :

Murdoch doesn’t like swearing I guess the old cunt.

Steve Williams, one of the most knowledgeable TV people I've ever known, and was known to post here as well as many TV forums.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: dissolute ocelot on August 27, 2021, 10:30:43 PM
Interesting story from this week's Popbitch:

"About ten years ago, Sean Lock was being considered for a part in a British indie film. The American execs attached to the project had never heard of him, so the director sent over a bunch of TV clips to make a case for his casting.
I was just thinking Benedict Wong's done well, in Dr Strange, the new Spiderman and recent Disney voice work. Is there a parallel world with Sean a Marvel star?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: non capisco on August 27, 2021, 10:32:30 PM
Not sure if it’s the same for everyone, but series 2 episode 2 seems to be missing. It’s the car boot and pigeon shit episode. Any idea why this may have been preemptively pulled?

One of the funniest episodes. The bit where Vince is so desperate for a sale at the boot fair that he necks the hot soup so he can sell his flask is a fantastic bit of physical comedy from Lock.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 27, 2021, 11:01:30 PM
One of the funniest episodes. The bit where Vince is so desperate for a sale at the boot fair that he necks the hot soup so he can sell his flask is a fantastic bit of physical comedy from Lock.

IT'S TEA
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 28, 2021, 12:02:50 AM
IT'S TEA

Definitely soup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMu7avEVibc
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: non capisco on August 28, 2021, 12:23:29 AM
Definitely soup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMu7avEVibc

Ah, man. So good.

"I can come back..."
"YOU WON'T COME BACK!"

Think I'll tan all these again over the long weekend. RIP, you funny bastard.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Reg Tits on August 28, 2021, 08:37:04 AM
There are plenty of 15 Storeys High 1+2 on eBay at the moment in auction. You can copy it with DVD Shrink and then relist. Mind you Vince wouldn't bother. Too much effort. You might have to talk to someone.
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Post by: Greg Torso on August 28, 2021, 11:39:34 AM
There's a DVD rip here - subtitles included in the file as are the 4 commentaries

Many many thanks for this. Looking forward to a proper good high def rewatch.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 28, 2021, 11:50:08 AM
There are plenty of 15 Storeys High 1+2 on eBay at the moment in auction. You can copy it with DVD Shrink and then relist. Mind you Vince wouldn't bother. Too much effort. You might have to talk to someone.

Not really worth it since you can rip it with get_iplayer.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: imitationleather on August 28, 2021, 04:16:08 PM
I watched Ice Queen earlier. So many moments I remember from the series all packed into one episode. Glorious.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Uncle TechTip on August 28, 2021, 04:24:50 PM
Not really worth it since you can rip it with get_iplayer.

Never the best quality from get iplayer, unless I'm using it wrong. TV mode=best
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 28, 2021, 05:11:55 PM
Watching this again has made remember how brilliant Felix Dexter is in this. Another great comedian taken far too soon.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 28, 2021, 07:36:20 PM
Never the best quality from get iplayer, unless I'm using it wrong. TV mode=best

I think it defaults to that now so it's redundant. A fair point though I forget they're pretty tight on bandwidth on the SD stuff.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 28, 2021, 07:44:05 PM
I think the heartwarming thing about 15 Storeys as has been mentioned here before, is that Benedict Wong claims around that time he was very close to jacking in acting after getting fed up of turning up to auditions to find it was yet another 'stereotypical chinaman' role, one of which was quite likely one of 'Ant and Dec', the Chinese illegal immigrants in the second series of The Phoenix Nights (the same plot-line that caused Daniel Kitson to fall out with Kay as he pointed out it might be a bit racist and it was dismissed with something along the lines of 'they're Chinese so nobody will care') but then got offered the role of Errol, who was anything but and an obviously well thought out character that he nailed.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: non capisco on August 28, 2021, 07:51:15 PM
Probably bollocked on about it on here a few times before over the years but I once saw Benedict Wong outside a pub in Soho and had to seize the opportunity to tell him how much I loved 15 Storeys High. He seemed thrilled to bits that it had fans, saying Errol was his favourite role he'd ever played and he'd honestly thought no-one had watched it. Shouting "COME CLEAN YOUR HANDS ON ME COOOAAAAAAT" into the evening with the man himself is a fucking brilliant memory.
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Post by: buttgammon on August 28, 2021, 08:44:09 PM
I'll never stop evangelising about 15 Storeys High, there's always at least one more person to force to watch it.

Probably bollocked on about it on here a few times before over the years but I once saw Benedict Wong outside a pub in Soho and had to seize the opportunity to tell him how much I loved 15 Storeys High. He seemed thrilled to bits that it had fans, saying Errol was his favourite role he'd ever played and he'd honestly thought no-one had watched it. Shouting "COME CLEAN YOUR HANDS ON ME COOOAAAAAAT" into the evening with the man himself is a fucking brilliant memory.

That's wonderful! He seems like a lovely guy.

I didn't realise he was in the big time until I saw his face on the billboard for some superhero film a couple of years ago. It's great to see he's doing well. How remarkable that despite 15 Storeys High being so unfairly buried by the BBC, both of them went on to find the bigger audiences and success they deserved.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on August 28, 2021, 08:54:18 PM
Yeah, I love that story. I think I'd have drunkenly shouted MEDIBOT at him and ruined everything.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Angrew Lloyg Wegger on August 28, 2021, 09:06:17 PM
I'm chuffed that Wong still looks back on it fondly. Here's an interview where he briefly talks about it:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/dec/13/benedict-wong-marco-polo-netflix

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Wong’s face lights up when I ask him about it. He’s delighted at the show’s cult status, that people are “still buzzing off it and they’re still finding it funny. It’s great that it feels like it’s still got a shelf life.” Wong landed the part thanks to his friend, the actor and comedian Peter Serafinowicz, who was voicing Errol on the sitcom’s radio incarnation before it transferred to television. “Basically he just did an impression of me,” says Wong, “so when I turned up they sort of gifted me the part.”
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth on August 28, 2021, 09:11:00 PM
I watched Ice Queen earlier. So many moments I remember from the series all packed into one episode. Glorious.
"I don't like this game: Britney's dead and I've got to get off with a duck!"
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Crumb on August 28, 2021, 09:34:11 PM
Watching this again has made remember how brilliant Felix Dexter is in this. Another great comedian taken far too soon.

God yes. Cannot get enough of his delivery. 'You are a very sad fellow. You have caused me nothing but consternation and disappointment.' is a great parting shot.
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Post by: Dirty Boy on August 28, 2021, 09:41:51 PM
I watched Ice Queen earlier. So many moments I remember from the series all packed into one episode. Glorious.
Probably my favourite episode. The mere mention of beetroot is enough to set me off.

Errol learning to drive:
"Aaaaaargh!"
"Dinnah do that man"
"people shout in cars all the time"
"that's the reward for passing your test"

Who was the actress who played the ice queen btw? She's dead lovely (and icy)
Quote from: The Crumb
God yes. Cannot get enough of his delivery. 'You are a very sad fellow. You have caused me nothing but consternation and disappointment.' is a great parting shot.
uh uh
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: jsgibble on August 28, 2021, 09:49:30 PM
"Well a lot of my dreams are about driving so I guess I've picked it up"
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BritishHobo on August 28, 2021, 11:07:49 PM
A couple of episodes into a rewatch, inspired by this thread. Lucky enough to have the DVDs, but I'm lazy so I'm watching it on iPlayer. Never gotten anyone to watch it before, but delighted to find my partner really enjoying it.

I don't think I have appreciated before how good it does look, in its dim grimness, how much thought has gone into the visual side of things, really setting it apart from most other sitcoms. Enjoyed reading all the talk in here about Lock's art film influences. As has been pointed out, I love that it sets this miserable world, but only finds daft joy in it. Vince is such a horrible, misanthropic bellend, it should be a bleak life. But he's so blithely content with everything, at the end of the day, that it really sets it up from most other sitcoms, where the curmudgeon wants a better life, fucks it up, ends up unhappy. There are no stakes for Vince, he's happy where he is. There's no episode where Vince might get a better job, or a nice house, or whatever. If he can bully someone into earning him Clubcard points, and not have to share a sofa with them, that's genuinely a good day.
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Post by: Mr Banlon on August 28, 2021, 11:21:56 PM
I watched Ice Queen earlier. So many moments I remember from the series all packed into one episode. Glorious.
"I'm not the one swanning about like Chris Eubank"
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jock Macabre on August 29, 2021, 12:12:45 AM
The laughing track in episode six is insanely jarring at first. Can't tell if it was a satirical editorial choice by Lock and Trenaman, or if it was BBC, in their infinite fucking wisdom, trying to 'juge'(is that how you spell it,  no fucking idea) up a show they just patently didn't fucking understand. Either way, you learn to tune it out about halfway through.

Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: An tSaoi on August 29, 2021, 01:49:48 AM
The laughing track in episode six is insanely jarring at first.

Which episode is that? I don't remember a laugh track.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jock Macabre on August 29, 2021, 05:12:13 AM
Which episode is that? I don't remember a laugh track.

Oh right, well it's on the version of S01E06 that they chucked on the iPlayer anyways.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: studpuppet on August 29, 2021, 10:30:03 AM
Series 1 & 2 DVD back on Amazon for a sensible £4.99 (although you'll have to wait until the end of September for some lazy HGV driver to pull his finger out of his arse and deliver the bloody thing)

Re: Benedict Wong - no matter how far he goes, he'll still always be Yoko Ono in 'Ringo Remembers'.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Jackson K Pollock on August 29, 2021, 10:31:17 AM
The laughing track in episode six is insanely jarring at first. Can't tell if it was a satirical editorial choice by Lock and Trenaman, or if it was BBC, in their infinite fucking wisdom, trying to 'juge'(is that how you spell it,  no fucking idea) up a show they just patently didn't fucking understand. Either way, you learn to tune it out about halfway through.

"Zhuzh", I think.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: An tSaoi on August 29, 2021, 01:28:43 PM
Oh right, well it's on the version of S01E06 that they chucked on the iPlayer anyways.

Wow, I've never heard the laugh track. It's not on the DVD.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: BeardFaceMan on August 29, 2021, 01:38:35 PM
Feels a bit like that Jam extra where laughter was dubbed over a sketch, the laughter doesn't suit the style at all.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: A Hat Like That on August 29, 2021, 03:07:30 PM
Late to the rewatch. Blue Rat, so far, has been wonderful.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Mark X on August 29, 2021, 09:04:01 PM
Wow, I've never heard the laugh track. It's not on the DVD.

It seems s1e6 was the original pilot, which was filmed and shown to a studio audience. The audience laughter certainly isn't on the DVD, and I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't in the broadcast version either, so I'm not sure why the unscreened pilot (with different titles - the broadcast/DVD version of ep6 reuses the titles and opening music from ep1) has been put on iPlayer.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: An tSaoi on August 30, 2021, 09:53:26 PM
Interesting, thanks for the insight.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Bobloblawslawbomb on August 30, 2021, 10:32:29 PM
Steve Williams, one of the most knowledgeable TV people I've ever known, and was known to post here as well as many TV forums.

Had another gracious reply from Steve Williams on Twitter. Asked if he knew anything about the choice to go with a laugh track on Dead Swan.

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We're looking into this, please bear with us
.

Which does suggest it was simply a mistake!

Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Andy147 on August 30, 2021, 11:13:20 PM
Who was the actress who played the ice queen btw? She's dead lovely (and icy)uh uh

Josephine Butler? (That's what IMDB reckons, and she looks like her).

Who's the man in S2E1 (Vince the Shirker) who says "Jesus Christ" a lot, and has an Asian wife who never speaks? I remember seeing that character in something else (either that or I saw that episode and forgot everything else about it).

Watching "Dead Swan" just now, besides being very put off by the audience laughter, was quite surprised to see Kim Hartman off "Allo Allo" in it.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Ron Maels Moustache on August 31, 2021, 01:18:03 AM
Who's the man in S2E1 (Vince the Shirker) who says "Jesus Christ" a lot, and has an Asian wife who never speaks? I remember seeing that character in something else (either that or I saw that episode and forgot everything else about it).

Blimey, that's a deep cut. Those bloke and his presumably mail order wife started off as characters in Comedy Nation.

Here they are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BFXXlos8U
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Post by: Mobius on August 31, 2021, 01:47:36 AM
I think Jesus Christ man is Simon Godley?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Petey Pate on August 31, 2021, 10:28:07 AM
I think Jesus Christ man is Simon Godley?

It is.  I think his onscreen wife was also his real life partner.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: phantom_power on August 31, 2021, 10:44:28 AM
Blimey, that's a deep cut. Those bloke and his presumably mail order wife started off as characters in Comedy Nation.

Here they are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BFXXlos8U

Thanks! I have been trying to remember where I had seen him before since my first rewatch. I thought it might have been Bruiser or one of those other crap BBC2 sort-of sketch shows
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on August 31, 2021, 11:26:36 AM
Simon Godley, dentist to the UK comedy community.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Dirty Boy on August 31, 2021, 03:49:24 PM
Josephine Butler? (That's what IMDB reckons, and she looks like her).
Thanks, but i already found that video of her copping off with a woman in a swimming pool
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Watching "Dead Swan" just now, besides being very put off by the audience laughter, was quite surprised to see Kim Hartman off "Allo Allo" in it.
Not to mention that piss mental Ooooberman woman for one scene.

Watching these again on dvd and they never seem to get old,  such is the writing. Up to the Pigeon lady/carboot one and it's like seeing them for the first time.

"Just because she's got one eye, doesn't mean she'll be in the London Eye"

They should deffo show them on bbc2 again (at a proper time).
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on August 31, 2021, 04:55:52 PM
Simon Godley, dentist to the UK comedy community.

Except Bob Mortimer.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: ImmaculateClump on September 02, 2021, 03:17:30 AM
Dignity + writing credit - Mark Jones

...
.......
...........

AAAAAAAAAAAAARAGH I AM MARK LLAMAR MRBLOBBY SILVERFACE WELSHVOICE, hear me roar!

First time round, I thought Benedict Wong was playing it too broad, too stupid, too royle family Dave, but I must have been wrong because he's been fucking pitch perfect this time round.

"Tell me, in this country, do they make peanuts for homosexuals?"
Perfect.

All the energy of a rat trapped in a can.
Imagine that.
A homely warmth wrapped in cold indifference.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: AsparagusTrevor on September 02, 2021, 08:11:38 AM
They've uploaded the proper episode 6 onto iPlayer now, replacing the strange curio that should've probably been a DVD extra if they'd put any effort into the releases.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sexton Brackets Drugbust on September 02, 2021, 08:43:09 AM
Errol’s list of Vince’s unreasonable demands including, “Stare at the sun.”
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: lankyguy95 on September 02, 2021, 11:09:28 AM
Keep remembering this and being really bummed out.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: turnstyle on September 02, 2021, 02:24:08 PM
Keep remembering this and being really bummed out.

Same. Every time I pop on here to avoid doing any work (approximately 136 times a day), I see this thread on the page and just think 'Ah fuck'.

Can we start one of those online petition things to have Lock's death cancelled? Because it is massively shit.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Smeraldina Rima on September 11, 2021, 02:04:17 AM
Julian Clary Presents the Best of Edinburgh 1993 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI2rvlbkg0Y)

Lock comes on as a roadie character after the Magnum advert. The comment under the video mentions that it might have been his first appearance on television and that it looks like a precursor to his 1994 Edinburgh show with Bill Bailey called Rock. Sorry if this clip was already posted and for bumping the thread.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on September 11, 2021, 10:10:57 AM
That's reminded me of Sean Lock's acceptance speech at the British Comedy Awards 2000. He signs off with a joyously cynical dedication.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sP0FngqUj0&t=22m19s

BTW Straight after his speech, enjoy the traditional awkwardness when the sponsor chief has to do his bit.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 11, 2021, 11:59:06 AM
What ever happened to Jamie Theakston? I'd sort-of forgotten he'd existed.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Brundle-Fly on September 11, 2021, 12:01:17 PM
What ever happened to Jamie Theakston? I'd sort-of forgotten he'd existed.

Radio DJ on Heart?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: ImmaculateClump on September 11, 2021, 12:04:34 PM
He does a morning radio show with Amanda Holden.
Saw a clip on the telly, she was laughing like a witch and he looked suicidal.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: The Culture Bunker on September 11, 2021, 05:44:56 PM
Julian Clary Presents the Best of Edinburgh 1993 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI2rvlbkg0Y)

Lock comes on as a roadie character after the Magnum advert. The comment under the video mentions that it might have been his first appearance on television and that it looks like a precursor to his 1994 Edinburgh show with Bill Bailey called Rock. Sorry if this clip was already posted and for bumping the thread.
I wondered earlier in the thread if his small parts in 'Newman and Baddiel' (which it seems started in September 1993) were Lock's first TV appearances - said comment also answers my query.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Echo Valley 2-6809 on September 11, 2021, 07:30:36 PM
What ever happened to Jamie Theakston? I'd sort-of forgotten he'd existed.

He's one of the Coren Munch Bunch.

(https://i.imgur.com/wPx6m2Q.png) (https://i.imgur.com/LKzvcab.png)

and he looked suicidal.
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Post by: imitationleather on September 11, 2021, 07:32:44 PM
Thanks a bundle for reminding me Giles Coren exists.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 11, 2021, 07:37:50 PM
bet there was a lot of cum in the jus that night.
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Post by: shiftwork2 on September 12, 2021, 10:33:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wPx6m2Q.png)

Machine-gunning proximity; Jamie’s going to have to go down as collateral damage I’m afraid sorry probably an ok bloke but who’d pass that up.
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Post by: jamiefairlie on September 12, 2021, 06:44:20 PM
He does a morning radio show with Amanda Holden.
Saw a clip on the telly, she was laughing like a witch and he looked suicidal.

You could tell she was laughing by the noise given that her face doesn’t move any more.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: who cares on September 12, 2021, 07:13:24 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/wPx6m2Q.png)

Machine-gunning proximity; Jamie’s going to have to go down as collateral damage I’m afraid sorry probably an ok bloke but who’d pass that up.

Reminds me of that old joke, or at least a possible version of it. You've got Giles Coren, Alexander Armstrong and Jamie Theakston in a room, and a gun with only two bullets. Who do you shoot?

Giles Coren, twice[1]
 1. I also have nothing against Jamie Theakston. Did a cracking turn on Rock Profile
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Captain Z on September 12, 2021, 07:50:02 PM
There’s a version in Time Trumpet involving Patrick Kielty that goes “…and then have fun with the handle.”
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: paruses on September 12, 2021, 08:30:26 PM
[1]
 1. I also have nothing against Jamie Theakston. Did a cracking turn on Rock Profile

He reprises that role on Secret Histories (or Forbidden Histories or something) on one of the UKTV channels - conspiracy type documentaries played straight but I think he always has a twinkle in his eye when he interviews the experts and academics (or charlatans, if your prefer, in many of the cases).
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: icehaven on September 19, 2021, 08:02:33 PM
The DVD of 15 Storeys High (both series) is £3.58 on the site of my work's supplier at the moment. Are they still outrageously expensive on Amazon/ebay etc?
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: Small Man Big Horse on September 19, 2021, 08:16:13 PM
The DVD of 15 Storeys High (both series) is £3.58 on the site of my work's supplier at the moment. Are they still outrageously expensive on Amazon/ebay etc?

No, not since it went up on iplayer, now you can get it for between £5 - £7.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: icehaven on September 19, 2021, 08:54:40 PM
No, not since it went up on iplayer, now you can get it for between £5 - £7.

Oh good! I thought it might turn up on iplayer, good stuff.
Title: Re: Sean Lock has died
Post by: up_the_hampipe on September 25, 2021, 03:56:42 PM
This morning I kept thinking about Lock's "Rectum of the Year" bit, which is a wonderful example of how he's able to take an already strange and funny concept but keep escalating it with every line https://youtu.be/qRPngk5QyK4?t=270