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Title: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 08, 2021, 05:14:59 PM
Voice of the people and rib-tickler par excellence mucks in on behalf of us scots, with her couthy, whae's-like-us take on the PSA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTf-JHqIy8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTf-JHqIy8)

After a healthy squirt of bleach in the eyeballs and inserting a 18" kebab skewer into either ear, I opined to the missus that I reckoned she'll have trousered a decent fee for this work. 5, or maybe 8 grand.

Turns out she got paid 12. 12 cunting grand (and a car to the studio and back I'll wager) to sit in front of a camera and do that. An hour's work, tops?

This Is Scotland. This is what they sell back to us, the mirror they hold up to us.
 
https://youtu.be/f85KpnxCYks (https://youtu.be/f85KpnxCYks)

The Welsh don't have to cope with this endless psychic assault do they?

HELP MA BOAB.


Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 08, 2021, 05:18:42 PM
Nationalist poetry is always full Stan Marsh cringeface
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 08, 2021, 05:21:18 PM
I see the comments are turned off on Youtube.

To be honest it might get covid measures into people's minds the same that annoying adverts get brands into people's minds.

We could do with one for England. Who would be best for that? Michael McIntyre?

"Mask drawer! Do you have a mask drawer?"
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 08, 2021, 05:23:43 PM
Gonna need to see figures on how many shitmunchers listen to it and how much that saves the NHS before I decide it's properly bad.

Nice bit of bunsen though.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: George Oscar Bluth II on September 08, 2021, 05:29:27 PM
We could do with one for England. Who would be best for that? Michael McIntyre?


Not sure we have any pro ruling party comics do we? Even the rightwing ones seem to hate the government (but for different reasons than you)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ProvanFan on September 08, 2021, 05:35:38 PM
I'd want considerably more than 12 grand for that.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on September 08, 2021, 05:51:18 PM
We Welsh have other problems
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Fambo Number Mive on September 08, 2021, 05:53:22 PM
If I was Prime Minister, anyone who breached COVID rules would be made to watch that Janet Godley video on a loop for three hours.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Dusty Substance on September 08, 2021, 05:54:49 PM
I've never understood the Janey Godley thing. Every now and again I'll see a bunch of my friends on Fakebook falling over themselves to share her latest video and to give her praise, but she's not witty, clever or funny in the slightest. Calling Trump a cunt is hardly cutting edge humour.

Don't really know the ins and outs of today's "controversy"  regarding the COVID informercial thing. Should *any* comedian ever really partake in anything for any government?

And, yeah, twelve grand is a lot - She could just donate it to an NHS charity.

As much as I don't like her, I do hope she's not being inundated by sanctimonious pricks on Twitter.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 08, 2021, 06:27:45 PM
Shes getting cancelled for tweets she made a decade ago with "spazzy" in them. By people who cant abide cancel culture of course
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bronzy on September 08, 2021, 06:28:23 PM
I've never understood the Janey Godley thing. Every now and again I'll see a bunch of my friends on Fakebook falling over themselves to share her latest video and to give her praise, but she's not witty, clever or funny in the slightest. Calling Trump a cunt is hardly cutting edge humour.

Don't really know the ins and outs of today's "controversy"  regarding the COVID informercial thing. Should *any* comedian ever really partake in anything for any government?

And, yeah, twelve grand is a lot - She could just donate it to an NHS charity.

As much as I don't like her, I do hope she's not being inundated by sanctimonious pricks on Twitter.

I think it’s more to do with some pretty bad tweets from her now coming out of the woodwork.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/janey-godley-historic-tweets-apology-102251886.html

Additionally, there are stories of rather suspicious social media accounts sending abuse to people who criticise her. She also has the Gervaisian habit of organising Twitter pile-ons.

https://twitter.com/RossMcCaff/status/1435624339685134340?s=20

There’s also the fact she’s possibly the least talented person I think I’ve ever seen.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 08, 2021, 06:40:29 PM
There’s also the fact she’s possibly the least talented person I think I’ve ever seen.

I don't really pay attention to her but I did see her churlishly being used as a punchline in a joke about patter theft, stealing a joke from an anonymous tweet after it gets reported on and featured in Glasgow Live.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 08, 2021, 06:49:09 PM
Jester’s the word, she’s Sturgeon approved. 
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Cuellar on September 08, 2021, 06:55:56 PM
Kill jester[1]
 1.  not a threat
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Malcy on September 08, 2021, 06:58:36 PM
Can’t stand her. Arsehole.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 08, 2021, 07:05:47 PM
Kill jester[1]
 1.  not a threat

Get rid of her, she’s shite.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 08, 2021, 07:18:23 PM
She's the living embodiment of Holyrood's only idea of how to communicate with the people. An endless sewer-spray of couthiness, a patronising highland doll squirmy "biscuit-ersed" shortbread tin tongue in cheek Rabbie-Burns-in-wayfarers earnest smugathon. Them and BBC "hahahahahaha" Scotland. I can't take it any more.

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHEwQUHP0A) sort of shit. "Gie's Peace". No naw, "gie's" a country that doesn't have the worst drugs death rate in europe and child poverty statistics that'd make a tory blush, you clueless technocratic fucking centrist lying moneyspunking cunts.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 08, 2021, 07:31:43 PM
Should *any* comedian ever really partake in anything for any government?


With the cosy, one-party state we enjoy up here, it's important as an artist to obtain "the nod from Nicola", so as to enjoy an endless free lunch of Creative Scotland arts funding and social media endorsement.

Nary a dissenting voice is heard in our (own, our very own!) media channels. There has been zero artistic response, either way, to the seismological shifts in scottish political and civic life in the last decade, other than the sound of one back slapping itself.

It is extremely fucked up and not normal. If I were to go out right now and graffiti the words "Boris Johnson is a Jobby" on a flyover, it would be a news story. It would remain untouched, guaranteed. A selfie destination. If, however, I wrote "Sturgeon Is A Breadhead", it'd be gone by morning, quietly erased, of that I have no doubt. Because Scotland is currently a burning dogshit bin, culturally and politically.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 08, 2021, 07:34:07 PM
She's the living embodiment of Holyrood's only idea of how to communicate with the people. An endless sewer-spray of couthiness, a patronising highland doll squirmy "biscuit-ersed" shortbread tin tongue in cheek Rabbie-Burns-in-wayfarers earnest smugathon. Them and BBC "hahahahahaha" Scotland. I can't take it any more.

This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkHEwQUHP0A) sort of shit. "Gie's Peace". No naw, "gie's" a country that doesn't have the worst drugs death rate in europe and child poverty statistics that'd make a tory blush, you clueless technocratic fucking centrist lying moneyspunking cunts.


BBC Scotland, the channel is an amazing white-elephant overreaction to the question "STV does national and regional news output, why can't you?".

The BBC decided they would go one better than that and release a whole new channel with 32x of the budget of the now-defunct STV-2 (which did quite a bit of the aforementioned news). That coming along, and a change of guard and direction in STV meant STV 2 got binned, mission accomplished. Ironically since the BBC needed to suddenly fill this new channel with Scottish content, STV Productions were more than happy to take their money.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 08, 2021, 07:37:27 PM
BBC Scotland, the channel is an amazing white-elephant overreaction to the question "STV does national and regional news output, why can't you?".

I'm yet to be convinced it isn't some sort of psy-op, for or against what I am not entirely sure. Possibly to simply dispirit and depress those foolhardy enough to tune in.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 08, 2021, 07:46:39 PM
I'm yet to be convinced it isn't some sort of psy-op, for or against what I am not entirely sure. Possibly to simply dispirit and depress those foolhardy enough to tune in.

It totally is, it's more dispiriting to hear how bad you are in your own accent

"top news - well the 'facts' say that Scotland is doing quite well in education/health/employment/whatever (presenter rolls her eyes) but even if that is true (rolls eyes again) then it's in spite of what the "Nationalists" (never the Scottish Government you'll notice) is doing, not because of it....here's some people from the Tories, Labour and Lib Dems to tell you that Scotland is shite (they all smirk, presenter smirks). So, in summary, don't ever forget, Scotland is shit, your culture is shit, you are Scottish so you are also shit, you and your country just aren't capable of not being shit so best just accept that and let the grown ups take care of everything for you. Night night and please, don't forget, we really are utterly inadequate."
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Goldentony on September 08, 2021, 07:56:32 PM
We could do with one for England. Who would be best for that?

Goebbels
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 08, 2021, 10:06:27 PM
I'm yet to be convinced it isn't some sort of psy-op, for or against what I am not entirely sure. Possibly to simply dispirit and depress those foolhardy enough to tune in.
I've never watched BBC Scotland channel's news, but its endless stream of archive-based documentaries are ok. Plus comedy repeats and Beechgrove. What more do you want?

Definitely agree about the influence of Creative Scotland and its groupthink though. If you have a big government agency handing out cash and prizes in a small country, it's probably inevitable there'll be jobs for the boys and something verging on corruption, especially after 14 years of SNP rule, but it's still dispiriting how there's almost no opposition to the SNP's vision of Scottish nationalism. The Traverse theatre in Edinburgh, for instance, did some inventive critiquing of Gordon Brown but fell silent after that. There used to be a much more internationalist and wide-ranging cultural outlook, exemplified by the likes of Richard Demarco (still alive but very old), but Scotland is currently disappearing up its own arse.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 08, 2021, 10:19:10 PM
I've never watched BBC Scotland channel's news, but its endless stream of archive-based documentaries are ok. Plus comedy repeats and Beechgrove. What more do you want?

That kind of screams 'white elephant we need to fill with something' though doesn't it? Would you enjoy these things less if they had been dumped into iPlayer for a fraction of the cost and the money reinvested in making actual programmes rather than running a linear channel?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 08, 2021, 10:23:00 PM
Seems like a good thing and 12 grand well spent...you know in that it is trying to stop people from dying.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: derek stitt on September 08, 2021, 10:48:08 PM


This Is Scotland. This is what they sell back to us, the mirror they hold up to us.
 
https://youtu.be/f85KpnxCYks (https://youtu.be/f85KpnxCYks)

HELP MA BOAB.

How far away are you from having to recite that poem before you start work in the morning, dressed up as either Fingal or Bella Caledonia too no doubt. Blimey, I always thought the thing about taking the piss out of yourself  was that you were at least aware of self mockery and not taking yourself overly seriously. Nowt wrong with being proud of where you come from and grateful for being born in a good country but, this type of sentimental jingoism is infantile and hinders moral development. Of course when I dress up as a crusading Knight on St George’s day is not the same thing and am quite prepare to go toe to toe with anyone who says England does not have the best ponds in the world.

Also, Janey Godley is fucking terrible.

Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: holdover on September 08, 2021, 10:54:21 PM
Can’t stand her but was surprised to read that she was a Young Conservative back in the eighties.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 08, 2021, 11:21:50 PM
Seems like a good thing and 12 grand well spent...you know in that it is trying to stop people from dying.
It didn't cost 12k, the point is she was paid that much for her part in it.
I don't think they're that bothered about people dying tbh. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58024296)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 08, 2021, 11:32:44 PM
Can’t stand her but was surprised to read that she was a Young Conservative back in the eighties.
does make you think a lot of her current politicking and self-promotion isnt really that virtuous. oh I don't know. I try to stay out of Scottish politics. but it does seem her SNP support stems from simplistic identarian narcissism than any sort of genuine campaign for social equity.

oops.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: beanheadmcginty on September 09, 2021, 12:40:50 AM
Whenever I see her name mentioned I always assume it's that old lady who fancies chimps.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ProvanFan on September 09, 2021, 01:02:48 AM
"Gie's Peace". No naw, "gie's" a country that doesn't have the worst drugs death rate in europe and child poverty statistics that'd make a tory blush, you clueless technocratic fucking centrist lying moneyspunking cunts.

Gies that throbber with the hair who stood in Edinburgh Central
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 01:10:23 AM
ah ma wee dug says boris johnson a FANNY
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 09, 2021, 01:28:56 AM
ah ma wee dug says boris johnson a FANNY

lol
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 01:46:33 AM
I don't find her as funny as some do, but she seems to be decent on Twitter. I know she's trying to be a bit like everyone's aunty in this, I'm not sure how it will go down with the normals. No doubt we'll find out soon.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 01:50:54 AM
Also in terms of the politics, I can't deny that the SNP do seem to play on notions of national identity with their campaigning, but it's not that surprising. I honestly think the whole country is stuck until some kind of resolution to the independence issue; people don't seem to want to move until then. Thank fuck Alba are a busted flush at least. I do also find it galling that the unchallenged dominance of the SNP gives dribbling colitic anuses like Jim Slav(er)in an opportunity to pitch his own politics as a fair alternative. Get him right to fuck.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bronzy on September 09, 2021, 02:38:06 PM
Fucked.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1435957695052451843?s=20
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: stonkers on September 09, 2021, 02:52:39 PM
Fucked.

https://twitter.com/ChrisMusson/status/1435957695052451843?s=20

The screenshotted ones aren't that bad, then you read down the article and oooooooft.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jobotic on September 09, 2021, 03:11:28 PM
I'm not accepting The Sun's t&cs
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 03:14:02 PM
Crikey

https://twitter.com/50cent/status/1188988014559232

Was she a public figure in 2010?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
Gies that throbber with the hair who stood in Edinburgh Central
I assume you're talking about the filmmaker/satirist Bonnie Prince Bob. I take it you disapprove of this individual? Not a fan of his work? Do you believe that he should have stayed out of it and allowed Angus Robertson to take the seat uncontested? Do you think people like Bob should, in general, keep out of politics and leave it to the professionals?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bronzy on September 09, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
It just gets worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpsSRtZzcnM
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 03:23:36 PM
That could be anyone's voice!
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 03:48:18 PM
I assume you're talking about the filmmaker/satirist Bonnie Prince Bob. I take it you disapprove of this individual? Not a fan of his work? Do you believe that he should have stayed out of it and allowed Angus Robertson to take the seat uncontested? Do you think people like Bob should, in general, keep out of politics and leave it to the professionals?
You are him, aren't you? I bet you bloody are etc etc
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ProvanFan on September 09, 2021, 03:55:53 PM
I assume you're talking about the filmmaker/satirist Bonnie Prince Bob. Yes
I take it you disapprove of this individual? Based on his campaign video, assuming it was for real, yes.
Not a fan of his work? I've only seen that one video.
Do you believe that he should have stayed out of it and allowed Angus Robertson to take the seat uncontested? No
Do you think people like Bob should, in general, keep out of politics and leave it to the professionals? No


Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 09, 2021, 04:02:18 PM
"When I hear the word culture, I reach for my gun"
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Gurke and Hare on September 09, 2021, 04:13:59 PM
Do you believe that he should have stayed out of it and allowed Angus Robertson to take the seat uncontested?

This is the first I've ever heard of Bonnie Prince Bob so I can't comment on him, but I'm not sure how him not standing would have allowed Robertson to take the seat uncontested. Were the Tories, Labour, Greens and Lib Dems not going to stand until Bob turned up for his 363 votes?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: lipsink on September 09, 2021, 04:24:22 PM
I am relieved that The Sun finally cares about racism.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 09, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
I am relieved that The Sun finally cares about racism.

The Sun is going to be going all out stopping the break up of the union; you'll be seeing this a lot; the same drip drip drip they did with Corbyn but many will just ignore that.

I'm pro-union by the way; not a fan of he SNP either but I also not someone that doesn't ignore what the rightwing is up to when it suits.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Beagle 2 on September 09, 2021, 05:14:06 PM
She's an unpleasant loudmouth who muscled her way into a niche, somehow. She's got fuck all to do with the left or independence or anyone else but herself.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: the hum on September 09, 2021, 05:26:37 PM
Yeah I don't think I've ever found anything she's done remotely funny, but presenting her as a wedge issue in the indy movement is silly.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 09, 2021, 05:28:56 PM
She's an unpleasant loudmouth who muscled her way into a niche, somehow. She's got fuck all to do with the left or independence or anyone else but herself.

The Sun on the other hand have no intentions of their own.  It's the same playbook they are just using their new weapon they worked out was successful against Corbyn.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 09, 2021, 05:29:58 PM
Yeah I don't think I've ever found anything she's done remotely funny, but presenting her as a wedge issue in the indy movement is silly.

Ah that's good because I didn't.

The Sun did if you read the story because they attached her to the SNP.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 05:33:13 PM
Because it's The Scum, here's an archive.is link to that article so they don't make any money.

https://archive.is/DQtJo
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: the hum on September 09, 2021, 05:33:36 PM
Ah that's good because I didn't.

The Sun did if you read the story because they attached her to the SNP.

To clarify, my post was directed at the OP, not you.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 05:38:05 PM
I'm not sure how him not standing would have allowed Robertson to take the seat uncontested. Were the Tories, Labour, Greens and Lib Dems not going to stand until Bob turned up for his 363 votes?
Incorrect phrasing on my part, should have said "left the established parties to contest the seat amongst themselves" or something. But you're right, he may as well have not bothered - don't run as an independent unless you're absolutely sure you have a chance of winning, is surely the lesson here. But we remember the Guardian had his campaign video pulled off YT for some bogus content violation, so he seemed to have put a bit of wind up someone at least.

You are him, aren't you? I bet you bloody are etc etc
I wish! He's funny, clever, handsome and sports a full head of lustrous long hair and a fully-functioning foreskin.


Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 05:44:28 PM
Yeah I don't think I've ever found anything she's done remotely funny, but presenting her as a wedge issue in the indy movement is silly.
I didn't present her as that. To me, she represents nothing apart from the paucity of ideas and patronising attitude our government have towards us. And anyway, the SNP doesn't seem interested in independence anymore anyway, apart from as a carrot to get votes.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 06:04:50 PM
and a fully-functioning foreskin.
I don't believe that for a minute. Pff!
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on September 09, 2021, 06:54:03 PM
Well, she’s been dropped from drapped fae the Covid campaign now anyway. Pure rid neck for Janey Presumably she’ll need to pay the 12k back now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58505151
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: scarecrow on September 09, 2021, 07:02:29 PM
I assume you're talking about the filmmaker/satirist Bonnie Prince Bob. I take it you disapprove of this individual? Not a fan of his work? Do you believe that he should have stayed out of it and allowed Angus Robertson to take the seat uncontested? Do you think people like Bob should, in general, keep out of politics and leave it to the professionals?
I would rather people who hold transphobic views stay out of politics.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ProvanFan on September 09, 2021, 07:05:02 PM
Banning the video will just force our kids onto dark web for their Godley fix.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 07:08:28 PM
Presumably she’ll need to pay the 12k back now.
well it's labour provided isnt it? She'll probably give it to some anti-racism education charity. No fan of digging up ten year old internet messages but this is more than just careless language like "spaz", it's quite blatant racism. No fan by any means but all the anti-black stuff is pretty shocking really
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 09, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
I would rather people who hold transphobic views stay out of politics.

whoops
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: bgmnts on September 09, 2021, 07:16:36 PM
You lot have fucking Limmy! Why are they spunking 12k on this racist dinner lady cunt?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on September 09, 2021, 07:19:24 PM
well it's labour provided isnt it? She'll probably give it to some anti-racism education charity. No fan of digging up ten year old internet messages but this is more than just careless language like "spaz", it's quite blatant racism. No fan by any means but all the anti-black stuff is pretty shocking really

Would’ve hoped that the SG’s legal people would have made sure the contract allowed them to claw back the money if they were unable to use the promotional material because of risk of damage to reputation or the like. Who knows, though - wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 09, 2021, 07:20:05 PM
Sturgeon loves ‘the patter’ and she’s so gallus.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: PaulTMA on September 09, 2021, 07:31:01 PM
Because it's The Scum, here's an archive.is link to that article so they don't make any money.

https://archive.is/DQtJo

#Team50Cent
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 07:36:51 PM
You lot have fucking Limmy! Why are they spunking 12k on this racist dinner lady cunt?
Limmy's probably a bit "blue" for the auld grannies and that. Although I'm sure a campaign with him in it would be better.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: imitationleather on September 09, 2021, 07:39:39 PM
Never heard of her but I do love a good old public shaming.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 09, 2021, 07:47:13 PM
racist piece of shit get rid
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 09, 2021, 07:56:44 PM
Fucking hell the replies to her ‘apology’ on Twitter are mostly white people saying “good on you for apologising now let’s move on”, ignoring the dozens of actually properly racist tweets.

https://twitter.com/janeygodley/status/1435974382191513600?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 08:03:05 PM
Shappi Khorsandi there assuring her that she has "the moral high ground"

Talking about black people as a "them" who speak about their "big nigga cock".

Oh but she called Trump a cunt and has been on the same panel shows as you. Fucking hell
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Wayman C. McCreery on September 09, 2021, 08:10:10 PM
Fucking hell the replies to her ‘apology’ on Twitter are mostly white people saying “good on you for apologising now let’s move on”, ignoring the dozens of actually properly racist tweets.

https://twitter.com/janeygodley/status/1435974382191513600?

A better reply from author Shahnaz Ahsan:

“You’d be forgiven for thinking @JaneyGodley had tweeted a single "accidentally racist" remark from the state of this 'apology'. It was actually a repeated appalling tirade against black people. The number of white people replying here excusing that behaviour says everything.“

https://twitter.com/shahnazahsan/status/1435997220822831109
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 08:14:23 PM
I would rather people who hold transphobic views stay out of politics.
Likewise.  I've heard this accusation levelled at BPB before, but yet to see any evidence.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 08:42:19 PM
Likewise.  I've heard this accusation levelled at BPB before, but yet to see any evidence.
It's a good job you've got me:

Got him. I KNEW he was a fud. Check out THIS regressive shite

(https://i.postimg.cc/0jv4gRF5/Screenshot-2021-03-22-at-01-01-30.png)

https://twitter.com/discontent_scot/status/1322118662782918656 (https://twitter.com/discontent_scot/status/1322118662782918656)


Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Satchmo Distel on September 09, 2021, 08:58:39 PM
Godley creamed with 10cc of egg on face.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 09:02:42 PM
It's a good job you've got me:
A joke, surely?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 09:22:01 PM
A joke, surely?
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.

Also check out the video where, although he calls Stuart Campbell a bigot, he says something about the "trans lobby" forcing medication on children or something. I'll find the link in a sec.

EDIT: here you go: right after this. https://youtu.be/NoXVVA1Drwk?t=4306 That sounds awfully like something someone who's a bit deep in Glinnerism would say, in spite of his protestations.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Satchmo Distel on September 09, 2021, 09:56:45 PM
Godley is a concept by which we measure our pain.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 09:58:32 PM
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny.

Also check out the video where, although he calls Stuart Campbell a bigot, he says something about the "trans lobby" forcing medication on children or something. I'll find the link in a sec.

EDIT: here you go: right after this. https://youtu.be/NoXVVA1Drwk?t=4306 That sounds awfully like something someone who's a bit deep in Glinnerism would say, in spite of his protestations.
Well I think humour is subjective, and that tweet seemed to me a shotgun response to some hair-raisingly offensive attention-seeking on the part of Aidan. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know who they are or what they're about.

"Nefarious autogynephile billionaires profiting from hormonal pharmacology". No idea who or what he's referring to there, any idea?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on September 09, 2021, 10:02:59 PM
His tweet trivialises the murder of Stephen Lawrence to imply that trans people are manufacturing their own oppression.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 10:16:12 PM
"Nefarious autogynephile billionaires profiting from hormonal pharmacology". No idea who or what he's referring to there, any idea?
There's a conspiracy theory going around "gender critical" (transphobic) circles that "Big Pharma" (and, antisemitically, three rich Jewish people in particular, one of whom is trans) is promoting transgenderism for their own profit. "Autogynephile" is a Ray Blanchard thing; it's hard to explain but it's basically implying that gay and bisexual trans women are perverts.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Gurke and Hare on September 09, 2021, 10:22:53 PM
That tweet is exactly the same as all the ironically racist shit Alistair Campbell deleted yesterday and was rightly condemned for on here. He does seem on Twitter to be adopting a stance of being above it all, and far too sophisticated to actually take a position on anything. A brief scan of his Twitter account makes me thing he's an absolute cunt, not that cunts should be prohibited from standing for office in a democracy of course. It's funny when they only get 363 votes though.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 09, 2021, 10:27:32 PM
Always best to double-check which direction you're punching in when engaging in ironic, reductive sneering.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 11:23:56 PM
His tweet hilariously trivialises the murder of Stephen Lawrence to imply that Aidan is manufacturing their own oppression.

antisemitically
I'm out.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 09, 2021, 11:43:18 PM
I'm out.

I don't follow, but this is worth a read if you want to find out about the whole Jennifer Bilek nonsense.

https://progressive.org/magazine/antisemitism-meets-transphobia-greenesmith-lorber/
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Cold Meat Platter on September 09, 2021, 11:45:13 PM
I'm out.

You've changed my post in your quote. Why?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 10, 2021, 04:00:51 AM
Fucking hell those comments about Kelly Rowland and Snoop Dogg are gross. Also, calling Rowland ‘horse faced’? She’s hardly Bruno Fernandes.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: GMTV on September 10, 2021, 10:03:21 AM
Can't be having a reasonably prominent SNP / indy figurehead being accused of being an obnoxious racist. The SNP and indy supporters aren't racist. So I'm not sure what's going on here. Best accept her apologies and we can all continue being progressive.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Blue Jam on September 10, 2021, 10:19:57 AM
I would rather people who hold transphobic views stay out of politics.

Always found Bonnie Prince Bob an annoying attention-seeking twat but did he really stand against Robertson in protest over Joanna Cherry not being selected? Is he pally with the terves then?

As for Janey G, I guess it depends on how inherently amusing you find sausage dogs but I liked her tweets and her wee dug so this is disappointing. I see she's locked her Twitter account now, nae mair wee dugs fer me.

Also I hope her pal Scott Agnew is keeping off social media, this is the last thing the poor guy needs right now.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 10, 2021, 10:55:55 AM
Me too, tbh. I actually liked her up until I found out about those racist tweets.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on September 10, 2021, 10:59:09 AM
The racist tweets escalated quickly, from 'well that doesn't read well' to 'fucking hell!' pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Gurke and Hare on September 10, 2021, 11:02:45 AM
Can't be having a reasonably prominent SNP / indy figurehead being accused of being an obnoxious racist. The SNP and indy supporters aren't racist. So I'm not sure what's going on here. Best accept her apologies and we can all continue being progressive.

Well, that's absolutely nobody satirised successfully, well done.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Dusty Substance on September 10, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
Fucking hell. Now I've read a bit more about her, the tweets, the 12k and her general social media behaviour in recent years, I say good fucking riddance.

An absolute bully, instigating pile-ons using her 250k followers and trying to get people fired. Whatever the politics of those people, she's the worst kind of hypocrite (the hypocrisy was the worst part etc).

Looking at Facebook and Twitter, it seems that she's got a whole bunch of comedy friends and followers who must surely have seen her racist and nasty tweets over the years and yet none of them ever thought to step in and perhaps tell her to tone things down a little.

Some of those tweets are utterly inexcusable and yet she appeared to often take the moral high ground.

As much as I'm happy to see her disappear from social media, I still don't wish for her to be on the receiving end of an avalanche of abuse.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Blue Jam on September 10, 2021, 06:33:22 PM
Me too, tbh. I actually liked her up until I found out about those racist tweets.

Yes, I never really got the levels of hatred she attracted. It mostly seemed to come from the kind of boorish sexists who seem to have a problem with female comedians in general. I used to enjoy her daft wee videos of Honey the daft wee sausage dug and Nicola Sturgeon and Big Teresa, and her podcast had a nice cosy feel to it. It all seemed pretty harmless.

I didn't know about her instigating Twitter pile-ones though, I'm not on there enough to notice these things but I always think dimly of public figures who engage in that kind of bullying behaviour.

No coming back from this now is there? Her public image of the kindly Scottish aunt who'd invite you into her cosy wee hoose for a cup of tea and some time clapping her wee dug about the lugs is well and truly shattered.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 10, 2021, 08:05:08 PM
How did the slurs on her podcast shouted down by (presumably) her daughter go unremarked before now? Even in 2010 screaming about Pakis and gyppos was not acceptable
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Garam on September 10, 2021, 08:37:24 PM
Because no cunt listened to it. Why would you

Anyway, generally against a twitter pile on, but fuck her and fuck the SNP, these hypocrite pricks need more people pointing out their countless double standards
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Dex Sawash on September 10, 2021, 10:41:49 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpDSVNjy/kerry-godliman-head.jpg)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 10, 2021, 10:56:18 PM
How did the slurs on her podcast shouted down by (presumably) her daughter go unremarked before now? Even in 2010 screaming about Pakis and gyppos was not acceptable
FWIW, I’m pretty sure this stuff has been known about and frequently brought up by her online detractors for years: I swear I read about all these offending tweets and podcasts at least 5 years ago. But back then it was only used diffusely as ammunition in the kind of small scale petty online skirmishes that an internet famous provocateur of Godleys level is often embroiled in.

It’s only now that she’s been fronting a government campaign with the greater responsibility and accountability that entails that she’s become a figure more worthy of public scrutiny (and of course there’s precious political capital to be made for the SNP’s detractors by highlighting the toxic association)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Harry Badger on September 11, 2021, 01:43:05 AM
They should have got Sadowitz in to do this.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Lisa Jesusandmarychain on September 11, 2021, 10:29:55 AM
You lot have fucking Limmy! Why are they spunking 12k on this racist dinner lady cunt?

Made me laugh ( unlike Janey Godley).
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 12, 2021, 10:44:40 AM
The papers mentioned her daughter whose name seemed familiar.  Turns out she's in 'Up for it', a BBC Scotland comedy programme which is truly abysmal.  I don't like to put youngsters down but fuck me sideways, it's like they grabbed three random kids from Byres Road and asked them to try and be funny.  One bit had the daughter saying that kids should teach their dads to delete their browsing history.  She should have paid more attention to her mum posting 'darkie' jokes.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 12, 2021, 11:21:41 AM
She should have paid more attention to her mum posting 'darkie' jokes.

She does attempt to call her mum out on the podcast racism clip posted above for what it’s worth.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 12, 2021, 03:36:45 PM
The papers mentioned her daughter whose name seemed familiar.  Turns out she's in 'Up for it', a BBC Scotland comedy programme which is truly abysmal.  I don't like to put youngsters down but fuck me sideways, it's like they grabbed three random kids from Byres Road and asked them to try and be funny.  One bit had the daughter saying that kids should teach their dads to delete their browsing history.  She should have paid more attention to her mum posting 'darkie' jokes.

Sounds awful, like Limmy’s ‘random!’ sketches.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 12, 2021, 04:41:00 PM
Sounds awful, like Limmy’s ‘random!’ sketches.
                        Haven't seen Limmy so I can't compare.  'Up for it' is broadcast on Thursdays on BBC Scotland.  Brace yourself, it's heavy going.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 12, 2021, 05:10:15 PM
                        Haven't seen Limmy so I can't compare.  'Up for it' is broadcast on Thursdays on BBC Scotland.  Brace yourself, it's heavy going.

I think Jamiefarlie meant this sketch in particular.

 https://youtu.be/P0oLNZw2weg
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 12, 2021, 05:18:44 PM
I think Jamiefarlie meant this sketch in particular.

 https://youtu.be/P0oLNZw2weg

That’s the one.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 12, 2021, 05:26:03 PM
I think Jamiefarlie meant this sketch in particular.

 https://youtu.be/P0oLNZw2weg
                       Thanks, but I can't watch any internet videos.  No computer, primitive phone.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Garam on September 13, 2021, 12:58:04 AM
Not missing much mate. By some distance the most overrated comedian of the last 20 years, and a total arsehole besides
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 13, 2021, 09:28:41 AM
Limmy's Random has to be a parody of Up For It with Godley's daughter Ashley Storrie and the gang. I've seen Storrie do standup, and it's pretty much like having a talkative teenager chatter to you about whatever comes to her mind, and of similar levels of humour. Still better than mum, though. Her father Sean Storrie, Godley's husband, is apparently a Glasgow gangland figure, which may explain why the family continues to get work.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: derek stitt on September 13, 2021, 09:45:28 AM
Still think that the SNP need a celebrity supporter shit on the chest story rather than some racist old ex landlady being a bit of a racist old ex landlady to truly cement their place at the top (possibly glass) table of this islands third political party.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: JaDanketies on September 13, 2021, 09:54:10 AM
lol I followed her because the people attempting to cancel her seemed like a big bunch of fash cunts but them racist tweets are inexcusable.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: gilbertharding on September 13, 2021, 10:04:53 AM
Voice of the people and rib-tickler par excellence mucks in on behalf of us scots, with her couthy, whae's-like-us take on the PSA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTf-JHqIy8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTf-JHqIy8)



That video's been made private now - and I haven't seen it - was there something actually wrong with it, or is it just because she's been cancelled?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 13, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
That video's been made private now - and I haven't seen it - was there something actually wrong with it, or is it just because she's been cancelled?

Nothing technically 'wrong' with it in itself in that there was no outrageous or transgressionary content in the video itself, although many inc the OP would find plenty subjectively wrong with it in terms of finding Godley's 'awright troops we hiv all gotta keep wearing the masks lang may yer arse reek' patter presentation style both irritatingly twee and patronising. I'm Godley agnostic but I can't help agree that even before the bad ol racism came out that she was a terrible choice for fronting this in terms of actually getting the message across widely being as she was already such a divisive figure who's an instant turn off to many.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 13, 2021, 11:35:48 AM
It's also rather blatantly nepotistic of Sturgeon to get someone she's besties with to front a government health campaign for a easy £12k.

Wean at a buffet. Fucks sake.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 13, 2021, 12:13:33 PM
Nothing technically 'wrong' with it in itself in that there was no outrageous or transgressionary content in the video itself, although many inc the OP would find plenty subjectively wrong with it in terms of finding Godley's 'awright troops we hiv all gotta keep wearing the masks lang may yer arse reek' patter presentation style both irritatingly twee and patronising. I'm Godley agnostic but I can't help agree that even before the bad ol racism came out that she was a terrible choice for fronting this in terms of actually getting the message across widely being as she was already such a divisive figure who's an instant turn off to many.

Is she/was she? On what lines was she divisive (assuming her racist remarks where not widely known before).
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 13, 2021, 12:25:58 PM
I do wonder who would be a good alternative leader. Feels like things are a bit hopeless in Scotland lately. I mean, I'd like Slater or Harvie to be FM, but that's not going to happen, is it. Sarwar is fine but not inspiring. And God forbid Douglas Ross gets in.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 13, 2021, 12:40:59 PM
What about Blackford?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: stonkers on September 13, 2021, 12:44:56 PM
Is she/was she? On what lines was she divisive (assuming her racist remarks where not widely known before).

I think mainly just for the reasons ajsmith2 says, her whole Glesgae wifey patter gimmick just winds a lot of people up. Doesn't help that most of the country doesn't talk like that.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ajsmith2 on September 13, 2021, 01:15:11 PM
Is she/was she? On what lines was she divisive (assuming her racist remarks where not widely known before).

As well as being a veteran of many online spats, the fact she's so closely identified with enthusiastic/non critical SNP/Sturgeon support is hugely divisive. I mean obviously any video coming from the Scottish Government is gonna be SNP adjacent, but using Godley really rams home that aspect. Also the marmitey comic persona as stonkers says.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: canadagoose on September 13, 2021, 01:32:34 PM
What about Blackford?

He's not an MSP, so I don't think he can be First Minister.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: TrenterPercenter on September 13, 2021, 01:35:38 PM
As well as being a veteran of many online spats, the fact she's so closely identified with enthusiastic/non critical SNP/Sturgeon support is hugely divisive. I mean obviously any video coming from the Scottish Government is gonna be SNP adjacent, but using Godley really rams home that aspect. Also the marmitey comic persona as stonkers says.

I see but Scotland does seem to have gone full SNP in voting terms and obliterated the other parties so they must be hugely popular in the main.  I would wager they went with Godley and her Glasgie act because they thought it would appeal to the working class Scots which they presumed would be most likely to be ignoring health information; like Fine Gael might use Mrs Brown to get the proles to check their smoke alarms.  It's base but it might not be quite the political nose rubbing going on that it appears.

Also of course it has spectacularly backfired.  My nan was from Glasgow and would probably been an anti-vaxxer and would have loved Godley's schtick........even more if she'd have found out she was racist (she was a poorly educated factory worker that was a complete nob but you could kindof understand "as fer why" she was boxed into her own mind as it were).
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Johnny Yesno on September 13, 2021, 01:36:39 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpDSVNjy/kerry-godliman-head.jpg)

Ah, it's not just me that gets them mixed up, then.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 13, 2021, 02:29:42 PM
He's not an MSP, so I don't think he can be First Minister.
                       I thought the majority party could elect who they liked. Probably flaunting my ignorance there!  From what I've seen of Westminster, Blackford gives his moneysworth, giving solid jabs to the Cabinet while Starmer will occasionally politely hum and haw.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 13, 2021, 02:40:18 PM
Limmy's Random has to be a parody of Up For It with Godley's daughter Ashley Storrie and the gang. I've seen Storrie do standup, and it's pretty much like having a talkative teenager chatter to you about whatever comes to her mind, and of similar levels of humour. Still better than mum, though. Her father Sean Storrie, Godley's husband, is apparently a Glasgow gangland figure, which may explain why the family continues to get work.
Fucking hell, I knew he was autistic but I didn't know he was a gangster.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 13, 2021, 02:53:02 PM
What's the story about Godley causing pile ons on Twitter and trying to get people sacked that people allude to?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: stonkers on September 13, 2021, 03:16:21 PM
Don't know about trying to get people sacked but she was always a big fan of searching her own name then retweeting criticism so that her followers would pile on.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Mr_Simnock on September 13, 2021, 03:22:36 PM
she's mature and chubby, that's my usual x-hamster search so i can't dislike her too much
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 13, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
What about Blackford?

“Scotland will not be dragged out of the EU against its will”, that Blackford?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: gilbertharding on September 13, 2021, 03:37:11 PM
I see but Scotland does seem to have gone full SNP in voting terms and obliterated the other parties so they must be hugely popular in the main.  I would wager they went with Godley and her Glasgie act because they thought it would appeal to the working class Scots which they presumed would be most likely to be ignoring health information; like Fine Gael might use Mrs Brown to get the proles to check their smoke alarms.  It's base but it might not be quite the political nose rubbing going on that it appears.

45% of the vote is a lot, but I guess the other 55% are so entrenched against the SNP at this point that nothing will get through to them. I don't know how popular Nationalism is across the classes - are there any working class Rangers fans?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 13, 2021, 03:39:10 PM
Limmy's Random has to be a parody of Up For It with Godley's daughter Ashley Storrie and the gang. I've seen Storrie do standup, and it's pretty much like having a talkative teenager chatter to you about whatever comes to her mind, and of similar levels of humour. Still better than mum, though. Her father Sean Storrie, Godley's husband, is apparently a Glasgow gangland figure, which may explain why the family continues to get work.

Also explains her friendship with Sturgeon.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Pink Gregory on September 13, 2021, 03:39:21 PM
Fucking hell, I knew he was autistic but I didn't know he was a gangster.

To be fair, I don't think he's a gangster himself, but he's from a gangland family
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 13, 2021, 03:44:48 PM
45% of the vote is a lot, but I guess the other 55% are so entrenched against the SNP at this point that nothing will get through to them. I don't know how popular Nationalism is across the classes - are there any working class Rangers fans?

There’s around 30% ‘no surrender’ types, the others are just ‘frit’ and could be persuaded like they were in the devolution vote.

Rangers support cuts through the whole of Scottish society, like a streak of poison through a stick of rock.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: GMTV on September 13, 2021, 04:00:56 PM
Just to bring this thread full circle, the Scottish newspaper the daily record did a bit of digging on some rangers podcast presenters and uncovered some sectarian tweets. That then triggered a counter investigation and a few of the daily record journalists fell on their swords. I guess the net must have been cast a bit wider to any perceived enemies of rangers and hence here we are with janey godley getting cancelled.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 13, 2021, 09:24:55 PM
To be fair, I don't think he's a gangster himself, but he's from a gangland family
She's very quiet about her husband, and the papers don't say much. The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/mum-was-murdered-and-my-laws-are-gangsters-2463817) says "she is careful never to reveal her husband’s identity." Although presumably it's on a bit of paper somewhere. The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/aug/19/janey-godley) calls him "the son of a local gangster."

Re Ian Blackford:
He's not an MSP, so I don't think he can be First Minister.
You need to be an MSP to be First Minister (it's in the rules I believe), but Douglas Ross wasn't an MSP when he became Tory leader in 2020 (he stood and won a seat in 2021).

 
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jobotic on September 13, 2021, 09:43:13 PM
She's very quiet about her husband, and the papers don't say much. The Scotsman (https://www.scotsman.com/news/mum-was-murdered-and-my-laws-are-gangsters-2463817) says "she is careful never to reveal her husband’s identity." Although presumably it's on a bit of paper somewhere. The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/aug/19/janey-godley) calls him "the son of a local gangster."

this is from The Scotsman

https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/joking-apart-2463780
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Seedsy on September 13, 2021, 10:39:50 PM


Rangers support cuts through the whole of Scottish society, like a streak of poison through a stick of rock.
[/quote]


I could not agree with this statement more.

Im Scottish, live in Scotland, have been going to watch my football team weekly for over 30 years. (im not a celtic fan btw)and the majority of the Rangers support are absolutely abhorrent. Its not a minority, even the snp try and mealy mouth and say its a minority after every shameful knuckle dragging behaviour.

I think alot of Scottish society would have flourished and reset if they had not been allowed to be resurrected.
Instead, we have a more defiant and extreme Glasgow Rangers.
Wish they would fuckin just go bust again. And fuck off forever
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bronzy on September 13, 2021, 11:02:55 PM
If I have learnt one thing from this sorry saga, it’s that Janey Godley is absolutely obsessed with the penises of black men
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: JaDanketies on September 13, 2021, 11:43:28 PM
she's mature and chubby, that's my usual x-hamster search so i can't dislike her too much

I think CaB is what makes me feel guilty for finding that funny


Oh and I don't even give a shit about football and I know Rangers are terrible. Which is obvious when you know the first thing about them
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: GMTV on September 14, 2021, 07:18:56 AM
Rangers are essentially the Scottish version of Godwins law.

Two things Scotland can be proud of, the only country where coca cola doesn't dominate, and a philosophical ideology even more abhorrent than nazism
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: steve98 on September 14, 2021, 10:06:04 AM
I'm a blue-toes bastard now (due to Peripheral Vascular Disease)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 14, 2021, 10:19:41 AM
Supporting Rangers seems to be a genetic disorder. The number of otherwise pleasant people who're Rangers fans who're "oh my dad supported them." YES WELL YOUR DAD ALSO HAD SEX WITH YOUR MUM YOU DON'T SEEM TO FEEL THE NEED TO DO THAT.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 11:53:19 AM
I am not a loyalist, orangeman or bigot.  I am a Rangers fan.  By the looks of it I'm getting cancelled for that alone!  For heaven's sake, we're not all monsters.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jobotic on September 14, 2021, 12:00:03 PM
I know not all Rangers fans are like that but how do you cope with the vast amount who are?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 14, 2021, 12:13:12 PM
For heaven's sake, we're not all monsters.

where's the evidence?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 12:28:54 PM
I know not all Rangers fans are like that but how do you cope with the vast amount who are?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: idunnosomename on September 14, 2021, 12:32:57 PM
Cant stand rangers. They're always trying to foil me swiping pic-a-nic baskets
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 12:35:05 PM
where's the evidence?
                        I will stand or fall on the judgement of my good character!
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: steve98 on September 14, 2021, 12:38:37 PM
This you BigFella? Bet it is.

(https://paddyontherailway.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/fat-orangeman.png)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: steve98 on September 14, 2021, 12:40:26 PM
And Mrs BigFella.

(https://i.redd.it/akx19x57j07z.jpg)
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 01:00:01 PM
And Mrs BigFella.

(https://i.redd.it/akx19x57j07z.jpg)
                        I could do worse I suppose!  Classic, mate.   By the way, is my reply to jobotic appearing blank on everyone else's screen? It previewed okay.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: earl_sleek on September 14, 2021, 01:07:54 PM
I've known a few decent Rangers fans. They've all been Scots who've lived most of their lives in England though, dunno if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 14, 2021, 01:10:03 PM
i think it's fair to say it's in the top tier of clubs that have the most scum fans
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jobotic on September 14, 2021, 01:17:37 PM
                        I could do worse I suppose!  Classic, mate.   By the way, is my reply to jobotic appearing blank on everyone else's screen? It previewed okay.

Yes
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Chollis on September 14, 2021, 01:26:44 PM
                        I could do worse I suppose!  Classic, mate.   By the way, is my reply to jobotic appearing blank on everyone else's screen? It previewed okay.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Dex Sawash on September 14, 2021, 02:06:02 PM
                        I could do worse I suppose!  Classic, mate.   By the way, is my reply to jobotic appearing blank on everyone else's screen? It previewed okay.

yes
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: phantom_power on September 14, 2021, 03:11:55 PM
i think it's fair to say it's in the top tier of clubs that have the most scum fans

Well yeah they have the most fans so it stands to reason they will have the most shit ones, even if the ratio is the same as other clubs
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 14, 2021, 03:19:26 PM
Well yeah they have the most fans so it stands to reason they will have the most shit ones, even if the ratio is the same as other clubs
The problem is strength in numbers: if you have 3 shit fans out of 300, that's not going to trouble anyone, but 500 shit fans out of 50000 is enough to start a small insurrection. Or at least hassle a lot of people in public places.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 14, 2021, 03:22:38 PM
I know a Rangers fan who's a nice lad but in general, I'm nervous around them because of their far-right connections. And the weird obsession with Israel. The EDL were full of them. No Surrender this, No Surrender that.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 04:36:01 PM
I know not all Rangers fans are like that but how do you cope with the vast amount who are?
                       I hear what you're saying, but I just get on with it.  I avoid the nasty guys and don't condone them.  We aren't a homogenous mass of hun bastards.  You've got the boys in the lodge who want to extinguish Catholicism, defend the union etc. Then the guys who drink in certain pubs, they just want a boozy singsong.  A lot of fans don't care about the religion, others just sing the songs and wave provocative flags to wind up the opposition.  A lot of the banter between workmates etc is almost obligatory, it would be weird if it didn't happen.  Thd great Arthur Brown asserts that Glasgow is a city united by bigotry.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 05:33:59 PM
Arnold Brown, not Arthur.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: chveik on September 14, 2021, 05:42:40 PM
Well yeah they have the most fans so it stands to reason they will have the most shit ones, even if the ratio is the same as other clubs

not sure they have the biggest fanbase in the world
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: jamiefairlie on September 14, 2021, 06:03:30 PM
                       I hear what you're saying, but I just get on with it.  I avoid the nasty guys and don't condone them.  We aren't a homogenous mass of hun bastards.  You've got the boys in the lodge who want to extinguish Catholicism, defend the union etc. Then the guys who drink in certain pubs, they just want a boozy singsong.  A lot of fans don't care about the religion, others just sing the songs and wave provocative flags to wind up the opposition.  A lot of the banter between workmates etc is almost obligatory, it would be weird if it didn't happen.  Thd great Arthur Brown asserts that Glasgow is a city united by bigotry.

Just like racism in 70s. The normalization of hateful bigotry is how it gets to stick around without proper scrutiny.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 06:30:27 PM
Just like racism in 70s. The normalization of hateful bigotry is how it gets to stick around without proper scrutiny.
                        Yes, I'll grant you that.  However, all's fair if it's consensual - joking with guys that I know or shouting at Celtic fans at the game.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on September 14, 2021, 06:58:36 PM
                        Yes, I'll grant you that.  However, all's fair if it's consensual - joking with guys that I know or shouting at Celtic fans at the game.

I don’t think Celtic fans (or any other group of fans, for that matter, including Rangers fans) would consider that they had consented to having certain things shouted at them, just by going to a game.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 14, 2021, 07:02:41 PM
Sectarianism is banter now?
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Post by: the hum on September 14, 2021, 07:19:36 PM
Aye so now we have the Rangers moderates acting as apologists for the extremists. It's worse than I thought.

Moreover they're such a bizarrely run club. They still won't grant interviews to BBC Scotland, a near decade after one of their journalists had the temerity to do an investigative doc on their tax shenanigans (if you were a fan of any other club I would think you'd be happy for the uncovering of widespread corruption), and currently they've been hatching some weird scheme to charge five figure sums for press access. It's run with a kind of exceptionalist siege mentality, it's own microcosm of a far-right movement.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 14, 2021, 08:32:32 PM
Sectarianism is banter now?
                        I'd be a little upset if you thought I was a bad guy.  From what I've seen of your posts you seem good natured.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 15, 2021, 03:43:57 AM
I’m Jewish, but not pro-Israel, so I don’t know where I’d fit in. The only Scottish team I give a shit about is Greenock Morton, my dad’s team.

I’m not saying you’re a bad guy, I just don’t get sectarianism and how singing songs about being up to your knees in Fenian blood or stamping on Celtic fans’ heads or whatever is just harmless fun. A friend of a friend said when he went to Glasgow he’d get asked what team he supported and there was no right answer. You say Rangers, you get beaten up. You say Celtic, you get beaten up. You say another Scottish team, you get beaten up. You say Liverpool or Man United or any other English team, you get beaten up.

A while back Rangers played in Manchester and their fans trashed the place and a Northern Irish friend of mine was bricking it because she teaches Irish classes and had Irish teaching stuff in her car, she was worried they’d see it. Which is fucked up. As is my dad refusing to call my baby brother Tim because it’s a derogatory word for Catholics where he was from.

Tbh I find banter difficult to react to anyway cos I’m autistic. I mean, if someone made a Holocaust joke at me, would I be expected to laugh?
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Jockice on September 15, 2021, 07:30:23 AM
The only Scottish team I give a shit about is Greenock Morton, my dad’s team.

Boo! Hiss! The enemy across the water. The last time I was in Greenock I wore a Dumbarton shirt. That's how brave I am.

Anyway, I'm from a Celtic-supporting family but I have Rangers fans in it. My dad was Catholic, my mum Protestant but there's even a Rangers supporter on my dad's side. Not sure exactly how that's happened but if I meet him (which I haven't for a few years) we have a bit of football-related banter.  That's all. It really is just banter. But there are some people who take it far too seriously and use it as an excuse for their own prejudices.

Disregarding the club's history (which is admittedly hard to do) there are decent Rangers fans though and cunts who support Celtic (might as well repeat my story here about having a friendly conversation with a couple of them I met in a nightclub in England until they started insulting me for being disabled) and I've lived out of Scotland too long to know the religion stuff in full detail. I was brought up a Catholic but have never been religious if that makes sense. I think religion is bollocks. Not the actual believing in a god bit which is fair enough, whatever gets you through the night, but all the rivalry and 'my god is better than your god' shit. Again though I've met decent people who are very religious and cunts who are non-believers

As for Godley, I haven't really paid much attention to her. Seen the  odd sausage dog video and the like and knew that she'd put on the first performances by Jerry Sadowitz, who I'm a fan of.  Maybe like him she was trying to do the 'there should be no limits to comedy' bit, but judging by the tweets she forgot that the one limit there should be is that comedy should be funny. I can't see Sadowitz issuing such a mealy-mouthed apology for some of the things he's said. But then again I can't imagine him being asked to do adverts by the SNP.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: GMTV on September 15, 2021, 07:41:54 AM
And my experience growing up and living in Glasgow for 30 plus years that there was more casual racism in the east of the city than elsewhere. Along the lines of, oh aye you're a hun, at least you're not a....

There was a strong white Irish Catholic heritage monoculture so I think that's probably where it stemmed from. I'd feel far safer walking around the west or north of the city than the east end.
 
Just in general too, very quickly racist statements would be made as if it was nothing. That's probably changing now though. I moved away from Glasgow a number of years ago now so I don't have my finger on the pulse the same way.

This concept of the average rangers fan as a knuckle dragging neanderthal, vs the liberal, sophisticated inclusive rest of the city (including celtic supporters) is a myth. Its laughable really.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Bigfella on September 15, 2021, 08:08:56 AM
I don't participate in or approve of the violence.  I realise that by taking part in the friendlier jokes and insults then ultimately I'm playing a part in perpetuating the whole thing.  What can I do, wave a magic wand and make it all go away?  And no, holocaust jokes aren't funny, although I'd allow Sadowitz to do them because he's a Jew who specialises in taboo material.  Nice to hear from a Dumbarton fan, you guys are so rare I don't even know what the shirt looks like!
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Jockice on September 15, 2021, 08:44:59 AM
I don't participate in or approve of the violence.  I realise that by taking part in the friendlier jokes and insults then ultimately I'm playing a part in perpetuating the whole thing.  What can I do, wave a magic wand and make it all go away?  And no, holocaust jokes aren't funny, although I'd allow Sadowitz to do them because he's a Jew who specialises in taboo material.  Nice to hear from a Dumbarton fan, you guys are so rare I don't even know what the shirt looks like!

I'm actually a Celtic fan. Used to travel up from England (where I've lived since I was seven) for matches and all that. But The Sons are my hometown club and my second team (cue argument about whether you actually can have a second team. Or a third. Or a fourth). It's an old-style shirt (white with a yellow and black band round the middle) but they play in plain yellow at the moment. I last had a current kit (also yellow) in the early 90s, wore it out on a night out in Sheffield and got stopped from going into a club because they thought I would be a troublemaker. I finally managed to convince the bouncers that I wasn't going to provoke a riot. Five minutes afterwards someone came up to me and called me a 'fucking Dumbarton bastard.' Turns out he was a Hearts fan. But it was said in a bantery way, no offence meant, or taken. We had a chat and went our separate ways. That's the good side of football rivalry.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Jockice on September 15, 2021, 09:45:39 AM
And my experience growing up and living in Glasgow for 30 plus years that there was more casual racism in the east of the city than elsewhere. Along the lines of, oh aye you're a hun, at least you're not a....

There was a strong white Irish Catholic heritage monoculture so I think that's probably where it stemmed from. I'd feel far safer walking around the west or north of the city than the east end.
 
Just in general too, very quickly racist statements would be made as if it was nothing. That's probably changing now though. I moved away from Glasgow a number of years ago now so I don't have my finger on the pulse the same way.

This concept of the average rangers fan as a knuckle dragging neanderthal, vs the liberal, sophisticated inclusive rest of the city (including celtic supporters) is a myth. Its laughable really.

Indeed. The most openly racist member of my family is on the Catholic side, despite his own dad having been an immigrant. His son, meanwhile is the Rangers fan but I've never heard him say anything racist. And still on that side I was genuinely shocked a few years ago when another relation (a Celtic fan) showed me a clip on youtube which basically consisted of a Scots Asian being bullied for being small. I think I was expected to laugh. But i just shook my head in disgust. However people can change. I have seen that relation since and when he pointed at two Asian men standing on a street corner I feared the worst. But his comment was along the lines of: "You don't see that often, a Muslim and a Sikh chatting to each other." I was amazed that he actually knew the difference between the two religions.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Kankurette on September 15, 2021, 09:50:58 AM
Boo! Hiss! The enemy across the water. The last time I was in Greenock I wore a Dumbarton shirt. That's how brave I am.

Anyway, I'm from a Celtic-supporting family but I have Rangers fans in it. My dad was Catholic, my mum Protestant but there's even a Rangers supporter on my dad's side. Not sure exactly how that's happened but if I meet him (which I haven't for a few years) we have a bit of football-related banter.  That's all. It really is just banter. But there are some people who take it far too seriously and use it as an excuse for their own prejudices.

Disregarding the club's history (which is admittedly hard to do) there are decent Rangers fans though and cunts who support Celtic (might as well repeat my story here about having a friendly conversation with a couple of them I met in a nightclub in England until they started insulting me for being disabled) and I've lived out of Scotland too long to know the religion stuff in full detail. I was brought up a Catholic but have never been religious if that makes sense. I think religion is bollocks. Not the actual believing in a god bit which is fair enough, whatever gets you through the night, but all the rivalry and 'my god is better than your god' shit. Again though I've met decent people who are very religious and cunts who are non-believers

As for Godley, I haven't really paid much attention to her. Seen the  odd sausage dog video and the like and knew that she'd put on the first performances by Jerry Sadowitz, who I'm a fan of.  Maybe like him she was trying to do the 'there should be no limits to comedy' bit, but judging by the tweets she forgot that the one limit there should be is that comedy should be funny. I can't see Sadowitz issuing such a mealy-mouthed apology for some of the things he's said. But then again I can't imagine him being asked to do adverts by the SNP.
I guess it's different with your family/mates. There are things I'd say to friends that I wouldn't say to people I don't know. Tbh if a stranger saw me in an Everton shirt and shouted '1995' or 'bitter' at me or called me names, I wouldn't know how to react. Like, my first reaction is to get angry and defensive, or worry they're going to attack me. I got bullied a lot at school and part of it was because I supported the wrong team, and I don't know how I was supposed to react. Just laugh and say, "Yeah, you got me, Everton are shit and I'm a bad person for supporting them"? Incidentally, I've had bad experiences with Celtic fans as well, some of them can be very antisemitic and no, I don't mean criticism of Israel before anyone starts. Like, I've had one telling me that Jews should stop complaining because disabled people have it worse. I'm a disabled Jew, ffs.

I did like the sausage dog videos, but then I like dachshunds.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on September 15, 2021, 10:15:45 AM
And my experience growing up and living in Glasgow for 30 plus years that there was more casual racism in the east of the city than elsewhere. Along the lines of, oh aye you're a hun, at least you're not a....

There was a strong white Irish Catholic heritage monoculture so I think that's probably where it stemmed from. I'd feel far safer walking around the west or north of the city than the east end.

Have you ever stopped to think why it might be that there are parts of the east end of Glasgow with a ‘strong white Irish Catholic heritage monoculture‘, as you put it? Could it be the fact that, until very recent decades, there was systematic sectarian discrimination against Scots of Irish Catholic extraction, preventing them from progressing, socially and economically, beyond the poorest and least desirable parts of town.

And yet, we still have Rangers fans singing ‘the famine’s over, why don’t you go home?’. And when some of them get arrested for it, the response isn’t any sort of self-reflection, it’s belligerence and talk of vendettas and victimisation against them. A lot of the same Rangers fans who (correctly) rallied behind Glen Kamara when he was racially abused seem, funnily enough, to think it’s OK to tell people with a slightly different heritage to them to go back to a country in which they’ve never lived.

There’s nothing more dispiriting than spending even just a few days away from the Glasgow area, then coming back and seeing the same old shite going round and round and round.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: GMTV on September 15, 2021, 10:51:39 AM
Rangers responsible for the East end of Glasgow being to some extent a bit racist....

Always cheated never defeated.

No point trying engage in some sort balanced debate in it. I merely state these things to provide a counterweight to the prevailing opinions stated on this site.

I left Glasgow years ago and am happy to be away from all that shite.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Clatty McCutcheon on September 15, 2021, 11:05:28 AM
Rangers responsible for the East end of Glasgow being to some extent a bit racist.... .

Not what I said, is it?

Misrepresenting someone else’s opinion and then attacking the misrepresentation doesn’t do anyone any good. You seem oblivious to the fact that you’ve just proved my point about Rangers fans unwillingness engage with the issues.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: ProvanFan on September 15, 2021, 12:03:07 PM
I'm doing an orange crawl this weekend, hitting up all 34 walks.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Hound Of The Basketballs on September 15, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
This concept of the average rangers fan as a knuckle dragging neanderthal, vs the liberal, sophisticated inclusive rest of the city (including celtic supporters) is a myth. Its laughable really.

Absolutely. I'm neither, but the notion that Celtic are the poor, downtrodden underdogs with the good music while Rangers are violent racist lunatics is absurd. Celtic Football Club are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world and their fans have no problem singing songs that celebrate a terrorist organisation that kills civilian men, women and children.
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: phantom_power on September 15, 2021, 12:59:20 PM
not sure they have the biggest fanbase in the world

Sorry I misread your post. I thought you were saying that the top tier teams have the worst fans but I see now that it wasn't
Title: Re: Janey Godley, Scottish Neoliberal Party jester!
Post by: Jockice on September 15, 2021, 03:21:13 PM
Absolutely. I'm neither, but the notion that Celtic are the poor, downtrodden underdogs with the good music while Rangers are violent racist lunatics is absurd. Celtic Football Club are one of the wealthiest clubs in the world and their fans have no problem singing songs that celebrate a terrorist organisation that kills civilian men, women and children.

Well, I do. I used to join in with the 'Ooh ah, up the RA' one when I was younger and didn't know what it meant. But that's it. I don't even know the words to any of the others. I'm a fan of the football team first and foremost and although I haven't been for a few seasons (just too difficult nowadays) I stand by my view that all religions are bollocks and although my reading of Irish history is that Sinn Fein/the IRA were originally set up in self-defence there were still some really nasty people involved. Although no nastier than some of those on the other side. I stay out of that sort of stuff. I just want us to beat Rangers at football.

New page Hun the wiser.