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Title: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 09, 2021, 12:23:36 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/sep/09/time-trumpet-the-savage-cult-comedy-that-predicted-the-future

You would think as a long time follower of all involved in On The Hour and their subsequent works, belonging to the generation that enjoyed their peak output (albeit only just, i was young) I would have heard anyone even mention Time Trumpet once in the several years since its creation, let alone that it was a 'savage cult' comedy.

It's not that it was especially awful but what an inessential and fairly shallow thing it was.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: dissolute ocelot on September 09, 2021, 12:39:37 PM
I just read this. I watched a bit of it when it aired, being a fan of Armando back then, but couldn't really tell you much about it.

Lots of it is on YouTube, e.g. episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JarlsU2XlPw), which I've revisited.

There are a few funny/absurd bits (funny animals and tiny Martha Kearney, which is nicely inexplicable) but the "political satire" is utterly unfunny - more focused on nerdy stuff playing around with TV technology, which is very well done, but isn't a joke. The Blair satire is if anything too mild - let's have him executed live on TV. And why would the weather forecast use real blood in its logos?

It is briefly amusing seeing very young Mark Watson and Richard Ayoade. Even if Ayoade's monotone isn't any funnier than the rest of it.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Cuellar on September 09, 2021, 12:58:08 PM
I really liked it. Never really for the 'satire' such as it was, more for the silliness. Like green screening all the glasses into Eastenders. It's contributed lots of comedy earworms to my interior monologue too:

-The Cilla autopsy, 'Surprise surprise!...It's an ovarian cyst'
-War on terror, 'All this terror, this wretched terror'
-Processed swearing Gordon Ramsay flesh, 'who wants a cutlet that shouts out "your mother's a cocksucker"?'
-Alastair Campbell talking about Blair 'holding his hands in front of his tits like that'
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Tikwid on September 09, 2021, 01:13:11 PM
Time Trumpet does often feel like the forgotten black sheep of this particular stratum of UK comedy, where media conventions are skewered with equal helpings of satire and surrealism, presented as an in-universe example of said media (see also The Day Today, Look Around You, The Framley Examiner, Broken News, even something like A Year in the Life of a Year). Of course the satirical aspect of TT wasn't quite as cutting as something like TDT, but I still feel it had enough of a streak of contempt running through to avoid getting too complacent. I still sometimes quote to myself the muttering, haggard Blair of the future, wandering around the streets of Baghdad: "move down the bendy bus....have your money ready please"
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Ignatius_S on September 09, 2021, 01:32:59 PM
It was patchy, but by the nature of a sketch-based format, that’s not exactly unexpected or unusual - however, there was plenty of good stuff and from what I remember, some material was excellent. Personally, I feel it was a concept it is hard to execute well, but they did a very decent job.

As to not hearing about it much, I don’t think it was repeated and very little commercial availability, so that’s not surprising - also, a lot of work or creative people don’t remain in the public consciousness, even if they deserve to.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Ignatius_S on September 09, 2021, 01:33:52 PM
I just read this. I watched a bit of it when it aired, being a fan of Armando back then, but couldn't really tell you much about it.

Lots of it is on YouTube, e.g. episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JarlsU2XlPw), which I've revisited.

Thanks for the mention about that - will have to watch again
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: FerriswheelBueller on September 09, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
I liked it. Not seen it in years (and there were a few bits that just didn’t work from memory) but it was worth it for future Adam Buxton’s talking head bits. Lots of great material in there, and I like silliness for the sake of it so I was always primed to enjoy it.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: idunnosomename on September 09, 2021, 01:37:01 PM
i thought it was shit
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Cuellar on September 09, 2021, 01:43:54 PM
Yeah I really liked some of the talking head performances. Buxton was always good. His little wistful smile and laugh after 'Stew...the man who fell into the vat of acid' makes me laugh:

https://youtu.be/GObMCX1-7ow?t=1248
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 09, 2021, 02:10:19 PM
For added context of my involvement, it's more shock anyone considers this a great work than my thinking it was awful. It isn't awful, nor irredeemable.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Jittlebags on September 09, 2021, 02:28:09 PM
I thought the Venezuela skit was hilarious.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: imitationleather on September 09, 2021, 02:29:11 PM
i thought it was shit

Agreed.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Jerzy Bondov on September 09, 2021, 03:18:48 PM
The way the donkey goes 'NO! Monkey's tired' has stuck with me
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Rizla on September 09, 2021, 03:30:17 PM
I loved it, for the most part. It's the missing link between The Armano Iannucci Shows and TDT. Mothercare, Tesco's war against Denmark, Beckham''s arm vagina. The casting of the celebs as oldies was phenomenal, Alastair Campbell and Jamie Oliver in particular. The bit about Blair and Brown's leadership battle I remember being a bit meh, but they made up for it with rape-an-ape. "He's smiling!"
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: neveragain on September 09, 2021, 03:40:45 PM
It was much more variable in quality than The Armando Iannucci Shows (due to the larger pool of writers perhaps) but still contained a lot of Armando magic, which these days is in short supply.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Huxleys Babkins on September 09, 2021, 03:46:25 PM
It was all over the place in terms of tone and quality, but when it got something right it was fantastic.

It's basically H.S. Art: The TV Show.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Ted-Maul on September 09, 2021, 09:20:05 PM
I legged it home from the pub at 9:50 to watch this and got there just as the announcers 'inspired' intro was on.       

It might not be the best thing Armando has ever done, and it may not be the funniest show of this type ever to be made, but at least he's willing to try and make this sort of series. So i am willing to try and watch it next week...although im not willing to run away the pub again.

My first ever post on CaB and the only reason I remember this show. It turned out it was shit and if I could time travel I'd advise myself to stay in the Jawbone.

But even if it's not shit, it's certainly not a cult TV show. The idea is laughable.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 09, 2021, 10:00:57 PM
So this is a self-indulgent article potentially trying to arselick an important British comedy figure as well as make Time Trumpet happen as a retrospective thing?
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Mobius on September 09, 2021, 10:37:51 PM
I enjoyed Time Trumpet, lots of funny sketches and enjoyed seeing many of my comedy favourites at the time doing talking heads. I've rewatched it a few times and it's got a lot of of laughs.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: PlanktonSideburns on September 09, 2021, 11:02:51 PM
rape an ape was a bit much
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Shoulders?-Stomach! on September 09, 2021, 11:05:43 PM
rape an ape was a bit much

Grope an ape : Fine
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: DrGreggles on September 09, 2021, 11:11:27 PM
I remember a bit about Tim Henman making me laugh, but it was pretty disappointing overall.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: robhug on September 10, 2021, 12:20:32 PM
was it time trumpet that had that sketch where a group of asian blokes in a cockpit are goofing around doing a group selfie with daft grins and peace signs before the twin towers hones into view
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: MojoJojo on September 10, 2021, 04:46:25 PM
I really liked "Clinton: My Struggle With Dirt", so ended up extra disappointed by Time Trumpet.

(I half watched CMSWD last night, and still quite like it, although it's obviously aged badly)
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: BeardFaceMan on September 10, 2021, 04:51:27 PM
Haven't seen this for a long time but I remember it being better than the similar 2004 - The Stupid Version.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: ishantbekeepingit on September 10, 2021, 05:05:10 PM
My mum said I wasn't allowed to watch any more after I started singing along to the Rape An Ape theme tune.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: purlieu on September 10, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
I always struggled with it, felt like it was pushing into silly edgelord stuff a bit too much. I really should revisit it at some point as it's a huge gap in my Iannucci knowledge, but I definitely only watched a couple before thinking I couldn't be arsed with it.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Pink Gregory on September 10, 2021, 07:34:50 PM
My mum said I wasn't allowed to watch any more after I started singing along to the Rape An Ape theme tune.
"down in the jungle where the celebrities dwell..."
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Avril Lavigne on September 11, 2021, 09:36:38 PM
It's basically H.S. Art: The TV Show.

I always struggled with it, felt like it was pushing into silly edgelord stuff a bit too much.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on September 12, 2021, 11:52:27 AM
I just read this. I watched a bit of it when it aired, being a fan of Armando back then, but couldn't really tell you much about it.

Lots of it is on YouTube, e.g. episode 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JarlsU2XlPw), which I've revisited.


I think I had it on DVD, never quite got around to watching it, and ended up selling it unopened on eBay.

It was around that time that DVD were really cheap, coming in from the Channel Islands VAT free.

There you go, Armando, there's a joke for your series, DVD were cheap in the early 21st century. Get it? It's funny cuz it was true! lol.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Captain Z on September 12, 2021, 07:56:59 PM
Year one, what was your turnover?

Ummm… apple, apple turnover.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Captain Z on September 12, 2021, 08:15:26 PM
was it time trumpet that had that sketch where a group of asian blokes in a cockpit are goofing around doing a group selfie with daft grins and peace signs before the twin towers hones into view

Yep, episode 6 about 9 minutes in.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: gilbertharding on September 13, 2021, 10:16:57 AM
I liked it at the time - I found it funny, but have no real desire to watch it again. Like most satire, it was toothless and solipsistic - its main target was the media on which it was broadcast: what's the fucking point of that? And did it even change anything about its tiny target? Obviously not.

I remember 'David Beckham' saying something like - "The crowds kept singing 'does she take it up the arse?' - and to this day, I don't know the answer."

I suppose you have to concede that if it's funny, it's done all you can expect. I don't remember that 9/11 joke though. That sounds properly shit.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: SOMK on September 13, 2021, 11:19:52 AM
I liked it at the time - I found it funny, but have no real desire to watch it again. Like most satire, it was toothless and solipsistic - its main target was the media on which it was broadcast: what's the fucking point of that? And did it even change anything about its tiny target? Obviously not.

I remember 'David Beckham' saying something like - "The crowds kept singing 'does she take it up the arse?' - and to this day, I don't know the answer."

I suppose you have to concede that if it's funny, it's done all you can expect. I don't remember that 9/11 joke though. That sounds properly shit.

Yeah, at the time the idea of Charlotte Church vomiting herself inside out was funny in retrospect (and ten years on from the death of Amy Winehouse), now it just seems like a variation of the kind of coverage she got at the time, a kind of creepy "child star gone wild" media aesthetic, made palatable for people who would hold their nose at ever buying a tabloid, a kind of satirical Jeff Koons.

I remember a few years ago looking through the work he's done and so much of it was was fantastic, the Chris Morris stuff, Friday/Saturday night armistice, The Armando Ianucci Show, time trumpet, Alan Partridge, The Thick of it, etc. But a lot of it speaks to a particular ideology that we are maybe even now too immersed in to be able to speak to with clarity. The court jester of Neoliberalism with a post imperial/new media twist, in this world you're either a viciously aggressive clever cynic or a self-obsessed, sheepish imbecile. Rather than inspire action, it inspires apathy.

In retrospect Time Trumpet feels like an attempt to do Brass Eye without the celebrity con job segments & Chris Morris (the former segments get criticised by some, but outside of their own intrinsic merit they meant that the show had to be anchored in something plausibly believable to someone, and so puts it in the tradition of Swift's modest proposal), Ianucci is a smart company man liberal with a nose for talent, fair fucks for that three little words tweet he sent to Alaistair Campbell, but like the vast majority of the British media cabal he was completely silent in the face of the most bare-faced lying media campaign in living memory in the form of the attacks on Corbyn (it was vaguely plausible Sadam Hussein had WMDs, in the sense that he had big priors, it was never the case that as doggedly anti war/racist politician like JC was some kind of barely closeted left wing Hitler).

I remember someone saying that what killed Spitting Image was the Sarah Ferguson toe sucking story, because the writers realised you couldn't satirise that (plus the 'victims' were far too fond of their puppets), it was more spitting image than Spitting Image, this generations equivalent is David Cameron whistling to himself after the post Brexit press conference did it for Ianucci-style comedy.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: Thursday on September 13, 2021, 12:41:30 PM
I remember a bit about Tim Henman making me laugh, but it was pretty disappointing overall.

Oh yeah Tim Henman working as a waiter so people keep saying "Come on Tim" That's good actually.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: OnlyRegisteredSoICanRead on September 13, 2021, 03:31:53 PM
What sort of person says 'Come on waiter'?

Porn star? come on a porn star? There's a joke in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Time Trumpet 'Savage cult classic'
Post by: gilbertharding on September 13, 2021, 03:49:13 PM
I'll tell you what's really shit: Armando Iannucci's Radio 1 shows - they're being repeated currently on Radio 4 Extra, and I was embarrassed to remember enjoying them, sitting stoned in a Cambridge bedsit in the mid 90s.

Was all Radio 1 comedy that bad?