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Title: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 05, 2022, 03:35:46 PM
I've been listening to:

Action Bronson - Cocodrillo Turbo

Roc Marciano - Marcberg

Pete Rock - Petestrumentals

Stove God Cooks and Roc Marciano - Reasonable Drought

How about you guys?
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 08, 2022, 10:19:01 PM
Mach-Hommy - Balens Cho (Hot Candles)

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Flee Lord & Mephux - Pray For The Evil 3

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: The Mollusk on May 08, 2022, 11:11:45 PM
That Hommy album is fantastic. Not quite as good as the previous Pray For Haiti which is a career high for a man who seems to bounce from one career high to the next, but still very impressive. He remains one of the best rappers out there at the minute for me. People slate him for being uninteresting but they're missing out. People like him, Earl and MIKE have been proving for a good few years now that hip hop doesn't need bombastic bravado and big soaring beats to leave listeners awestruck.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 08, 2022, 11:45:54 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on May 08, 2022, 11:11:45 PMThat Hommy album is fantastic. Not quite as good as the previous Pray For Haiti which is a career high for a man who seems to bounce from one career high to the next, but still very impressive. He remains one of the best rappers out there at the minute for me. People slate him for being uninteresting but they're missing out. People like him, Earl and MIKE have been proving for a good few years now that hip hop doesn't need bombastic bravado and big soaring beats to leave listeners awestruck.

You're absolutely spot on there. It's great that we have a healthy balance of artists occupying the same spaces but in different ways. Billy Woods, Ka, IDK, Mick Jenkins and Koreatown Oddity stand out to me as some. A much more cerebral and laid back form of rap.

That's not to say I don't love the likes of WSG, Conway, Benny i.e. the Griselda lot.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: willbo on May 10, 2022, 07:16:08 AM
don't listen to much hip hop at all, but found this on bandcamp this morning and liked it -

https://cassieopia.bandcamp.com/album/the-constellation (https://cassieopia.bandcamp.com/album/the-constellation)
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 10, 2022, 07:43:33 AM
Massive fan of the King Of Salford, Jordan McCann. A man who has lived more than most and done a hell of a lot of jail. The UK's DMX, I mean that 100%. Hits me right in the guts.



Also enjoyed Bruiser Wolf's album - he has that witty audacious E-40 or Suga Free type flow, and some nice beats. Less is more perhaps - he's also on the Danny Brown crew Bruiser Brigade mixtape and maybe works better there with his wordiness set against more straightforward styles like Fat Ray:


CASISDEAD is IMO one of the best rappers the UK has ever produced, and an enigma since the grime days when he was Castro Saint. He disappears for years at a time - his catalogue is slim but imposing. You've probably heard "Pat Earrings" as it got licensed for a few TV/film things but "Commercial 2" is a masterwork of a tape. Awaiting his album on XL, all sorts of rumours about it but taking ages. He dropped a couple of tracks recently, one with La Roux on the hook, which were good but not up there with the previous stuff. In a sane world he would be absolutely huge. The Dario Argento of drug rap. Well worth investigating.





Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Swoz_MK on May 10, 2022, 10:57:37 AM
Loads of Memphis stuff recently. Happens to me every 5 years. 6 months of nothing but DJ Zirk and Koopsta then nowt for another 5 years.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 10, 2022, 11:20:39 AM
Some interesting recommendations there @bushwick, I'll be sure to check them out.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Ja'moke on May 10, 2022, 11:31:38 AM
Westside Boogie has a new album coming soon. One of the most underrated rappers going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3--5vljPE
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 10, 2022, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: Swoz_MK on May 10, 2022, 10:57:37 AMLoads of Memphis stuff recently. Happens to me every 5 years. 6 months of nothing but DJ Zirk and Koopsta then nowt for another 5 years.

Yes mate! Memphis rap is something I can listen to in just about any mood. All the 3-6 related stuff is sick AF (too many favourites to list but Lil Wyte doesn't get enough props) but aye Zirk, Playa Grim, Playa Fly, Tommy Wright and all the Blackout posse stuff. So good. I am very protective of my Memphis rap - it pisses me off when nowadays boujie producers rip it off. It's a simple sound made with simple equipment done with heart (and tuned 808 cowbells), it has to be authentic and non-cynical to work coz the ingredients are simple (see also: Delta blues, minimal techno, grime, loads of genres IMO).

It's nuts when you hear what Triple Six Mafia were doing in 1993. there was no way of knowing about it in the UK at that time - we all shat ourselves over Wu Tang but the Memphis stuff was wilder, darker, more revolutionary (and more influential, in the end). Didn't even hear about any Southern rap here apart from Geto Boyz till late 90s (Source mag, MTV Base, Napster). That early murky Triple Six stuff would have blown me away if I'd heard it at 19.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Swoz_MK on May 10, 2022, 05:18:40 PM
Quote from: bushwick on May 10, 2022, 04:32:04 PMYes mate! Memphis rap is something I can listen to in just about any mood. All the 3-6 related stuff is sick AF (too many favourites to list but Lil Wyte doesn't get enough props) but aye Zirk, Playa Grim, Playa Fly, Tommy Wright and all the Blackout posse stuff. So good. I am very protective of my Memphis rap - it pisses me off when nowadays boujie producers rip it off. It's a simple sound made with simple equipment done with heart (and tuned 808 cowbells), it has to be authentic and non-cynical to work coz the ingredients are simple (see also: Delta blues, minimal techno, grime, loads of genres IMO).

It's nuts when you hear what Triple Six Mafia were doing in 1993. there was no way of knowing about it in the UK at that time - we all shat ourselves over Wu Tang but the Memphis stuff was wilder, darker, more revolutionary (and more influential, in the end). Didn't even hear about any Southern rap here apart from Geto Boyz till late 90s (Source mag, MTV Base, Napster). That early murky Triple Six stuff would have blown me away if I'd heard it at 19.

I love just how "shitty" those early tapes sound, yet absolutely all the better for it.
Today I've found my inner monologue talking in triplets so I'd better knock it on the head for a few days.
I know what you mean about not hearing anything about Triple Six or anyone at that time over here. I'm sure they would have popped up in Hip Hop Connection mag but I was too busy skimming to the Soul Assassins stuff.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 10, 2022, 06:03:58 PM
In honour of all this Three Six talk, I present the greatest song they ever made:

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: GMTV on May 10, 2022, 06:11:35 PM
Funny seeing three 6 mafia finally mentioned on this site. Been an absolute hardcore 36 fan for over twenty years. When the smoke clears is my favouritist album ever.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: GMTV on May 10, 2022, 06:24:06 PM
Quote from: Swoz_MK on May 10, 2022, 05:18:40 PMI love just how "shitty" those early tapes sound, yet absolutely all the better for it.
Today I've found my inner monologue talking in triplets so I'd better knock it on the head for a few days.
I know what you mean about not hearing anything about Triple Six or anyone at that time over here. I'm sure they would have popped up in Hip Hop Connection mag but I was too busy skimming to the Soul Assassins stuff.

HHC was dead against southern rap until it had grown in sufficient popularity in the UK that they had no choice but to take the fingers out their ears and admit a lot of it was great music.

I remember the head reviewer Andrew emery writing scathing, withering reviews about the likes of three 6 mafia, trick daddy, cash money etc. The big turning point was giving lil Jon's crunk juice top marks, an album that in hindsight wasn't a patch on the best of what the South had put out up to that point. That was 2004, at which point the dirty South sound was probably past its peak and beginning to sound clichéd.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 10, 2022, 06:25:58 PM
MAFIA! MAFIA MAFIA!
this song is so fucking exciting, makes me want to "act the damn fool". They did so many great posse cuts. Production is crazy too, the repeating vocal sample is too loud which makes it more crazy and cocaine-encouraging lol:


(they use the same crazy technique with NORE's "what what" all the way through his guest verse on this marvellous Project Pat track. Jesus Christ, Ghetty Green one of my all time favourite albums and Pat is the tightest rapper who ever lived)



Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 10, 2022, 06:30:35 PM
Quote from: GMTV on May 10, 2022, 06:24:06 PMHHC was dead against southern rap until it had grown in sufficient popularity in the UK that they had no choice but to take the fingers out their ears and admit a lot of it was great music.

I remember the head reviewer Andrew emery writing scathing, withering reviews about the likes of three 6 mafia, trick daddy, cash money etc. The big turning point was giving lil Jon's crunk juice top marks, an album that in hindsight wasn't a patch on the best of what the South had put out up to that point. That was 2004, at which point the dirty South sound was probably past its peak and beginning to sound clichéd.

Sorry to double post but this is 100% the case, I remember it well. Southern rap was hated by all gatekeepers in UK, fuckin backpack bores man. Bane of my life. Best music coming out the South but no cunt played it. Going to boring ass nights like Breaking Bread and wishing they were playing Ha by Juvenile. Outkast were seen as exception but the rest wasn't even seen as music. If you went to estates in London you'd see photos of Hot Boys and No Limit etc in black owned barbers, and Westw00d started to play it - but none of them jazz sample Blade loving wanna be Premier Brighton type whiteys gave it the time of day.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Swoz_MK on May 11, 2022, 08:46:28 AM
Been on a 24hr Memphis break to revisit some No Limit stuff. This track is fucking unhinged

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Utter Shit on May 11, 2022, 11:50:05 AM
A few things I've been listening to recently, not that they are all brand new out...

Coast Contra - Never Freestyle (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdNxeepSpuk)
The first time I heard this, I think it's the most I've been excited by hip-hop in...I dunno, a decade, maybe more. All four of these kids are great but the last guy, Eric Jamal...wow. The comparisons with ODB and Busta Rhymes are inevitable, but I think he's got his own style and incredible charisma. Fantastic storytelling over a great beat (the second part of Never by JID).

Tion Wayne - I Dunno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEXZai09LxI)
I've never really got to grips with modern UK hip-hop and most of my reference points are about 20 years out of date (Skinnyman, Blak Twang, Jehst) but this track has proved a bit of a gateway to enjoying it a bit more. Stormzy is of course the commercial king of UKHH and with good reason, but this one shows that he can still fit in with the dirtier end of the industry. Also: come for the video, stay for the Dutchaveli jokes in the comments section. If you like this, I'd recommend Body 2, also by Tion Wayne.

Common - Courageous (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEXZai09LxI)
Not much to say really, if you like Common you'll like this. 30 years in the game and still knocking out beautiful, calm, thoughtful tracks regularly. For me he deserves more respect as a rapper who has gone so long without ever really having a serious misstep or trying to latch onto new styles that don't suit him.

Pusha T - Spicy Fish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gR4mR_KZ0)
It took me a long time to really get the Pusha T hype, but I'm all in now. This geezer released a 60 second advert for a fast food restaurant that's harder than 90% of current rappers. Mad.

Benny The Butcher - Joe Pesci 38 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDs9PAjCu44)
I've heard a lot about the Griselda crew and liked bits and pieces of what I've heard, this is definitely the stand out for me. The beat reminds me of one of my favourite ever tracks, Small World by Nas.

Gang Starr - Lights Out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXTB9yZxqg)
Premo is the undisputed king for me, and if it didn't sound like such a self-consciously hipster, alternative opinion I'd probably say he is my favourite hip-hop artist of all time. The bangers are few and far between nowadays, but every now and then he will throw out something that is up there with his 90s heyday. I love this one, that piano stab and M.O.P.'s usual mayhem are great.

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 12, 2022, 06:22:45 AM
Quote from: Swoz_MK on May 11, 2022, 08:46:28 AMBeen on a 24hr Memphis break to revisit some No Limit stuff. This track is fucking unhinged


Fuckin props, I'd never heard that before - yes, that's insane. So bloody rowdy. Beats By The Pound are absolute dons. I might even prefer their stuff to Mannie or Paul & J. I don't know though, impossible for me to call, I love em all. BBTP's hit rate is mad consistent, way higher than Swizz Beats (I like Swizz but feel he's overrated whereas BBTP are definitely underrated).

KLC's lost (but now officially released) album is full of bangers. Majestic medieval MIDI horns and Mystikal yelling his head off:


More South. Two of the realest ever, going nuts over one of those bar room brawl 70s cop show soundtrack style beats. This pair are one of the classic rap duos IMO, they sound brilliant together. Makes me want to want to have a couple of lines, roll my sleeves up and go to Wetherspoons and fight office workers:


I done an edit to add some extra KLC/BBTP heat. This track is bonkers. It actuallys beggars belief and angers me that the true-school-boom-bap-fat-laces UK gatekeepers didn't acknowledge this gear and wouldn't let it through, when it's connection to those hard, original Schooly D records and the like that they loved is so clear, to me anyway. Hard distilled drum machine business, raw hip hop:

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Swoz_MK on May 12, 2022, 09:19:37 AM
Not heard all three of those before, amazing!
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 12, 2022, 12:58:33 PM
Been in the mood for the classics today, Ghostface Killah - Ironman.

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: dex on May 13, 2022, 08:24:22 PM
Been into GP WU recently. 1 member is Ghostface Killah's cousin.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 14, 2022, 03:49:37 PM
Back with another Southern banger. This whole album is a classic - at the time, rap connoisseurs rated Fiend (and Young Bleed) as the best in the No Limit camp. Mystikal's verse on this is a tour de force, a work of genius:

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on May 15, 2022, 06:20:21 PM
totally on my New Orleans business, it's the weather for it.

Archetypal NO bounce with the Triggerman sample, constant brutal hilarious disses and shit-talking. "Let me find out that your man wears sandals/Let me find out he watch the Lifetime Channel":


Equally good remix featuring 2 other prime funny shit-talkers:


This Mystikal and Fiend joint from a good few years back (but post-No Limit). Prime KLC production and rowdy elbow throwing shit. The last bit with the female vocal call-and-response takes the hype levels off the charts. Real fight-causer of a track, but was pretty much slept on when it came out:

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: WhoMe on May 20, 2022, 11:27:12 PM
Ill Sugi did a guest mix on Tim Parker's NTS show and I had to track him down. This instrumental mixtape is gold dust. Bit of an Al Dobson Jr/Ras G feel, just really organic, expressive production creating his own little world.




Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Fr.Bigley on May 20, 2022, 11:33:05 PM
Let's get ready to rumble- PJ and Duncan.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 21, 2022, 12:24:23 AM
After going through Treme I've become quite fascinated with Bounce.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Memorex MP3 on May 21, 2022, 04:00:31 PM
Listening to some Saturation era Brockhampton for a couple of years, it's so weird hearing the kind of swagger they had then on a track like Boogie compared to everything since. Ameer fucking things up and getting kicked out skewed the dynamic so heavily towards Kevin Abstract that it's just felt kind pointless since.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 21, 2022, 04:09:50 PM
Been listening to some underground old-school lo-fi, not this "chill beats" shit that seems to be exclusively associated with it.



Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: iamcoop on May 22, 2022, 03:35:43 PM
Mainly been dipping into old Def-Jux stuff recently. I picked up the Fat Possum vinyl reissues of El-P's Fantastic Damage and Cancer 4 Cure, both of which are obviously brilliant. There's been a copy of Funcrusher Plus in my local record shop for ages but as much as I love that album I cannot justify spending £100 on a record.

I also managed to score a cheap copy of The Future Is Now by Non Phixion which I used to love back in the day. Some lazy and dated lyricism aside (Sluts this and Sluts that *sigh*) I'm pleased to report it holds up pretty well, and the beats all fucking bang.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: WhoMe on May 23, 2022, 02:25:02 PM
Absolutely great.

They Hate Change - Finally, New (https://theyhatechange.bandcamp.com/album/finally-new)

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 02:55:52 PM
Question is this a thread for posting any hip hop? or is it just about this new breed of distorted stuff (not knocking it I just sometimes feel it has escaped the genre a little).  I don't really keep with the modern stuff really as it kinda died a death a while ago but I've still got my classics that I listen too (basically a disclaimer that I am old and therefore anything I post will be dated).
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 23, 2022, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 02:55:52 PMQuestion is this a thread for posting any hip hop? or is it just about this new breed of distorted stuff (not knocking it I just sometimes feel it has escaped the genre a little).  I don't really keep with the modern stuff really as it kinda died a death a while ago but I've still got my classics that I listen too (basically a disclaimer that I am old and therefore anything I post will be dated).

This thread is for hip hop you've been listening to :)
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 03:14:17 PM
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 03:43:17 PM
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 04:17:05 PM
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 23, 2022, 04:56:53 PM
Quote from: WhoMe on May 20, 2022, 11:27:12 PMIll Sugi did a guest mix on Tim Parker's NTS show and I had to track him down. This instrumental mixtape is gold dust. Bit of an Al Dobson Jr/Ras G feel, just really organic, expressive production creating his own little world.

Nice beats
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on May 23, 2022, 06:10:12 PM
I suppose the stuff I've been listening to is all the obvious stuff from this year- Billy Woods, Kendrick, Pusha T, Black Star. Thought the Cities Aviv album sounded pretty good when it came out as well but I haven't revisited it much for some reason.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 08:33:56 AM
I'll just keep posting my semi-grandad tunes

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 01:42:48 PM

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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 11:28:37 AM
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Swoz_MK on May 25, 2022, 12:40:35 PM
Quote from: iamcoop on May 22, 2022, 03:35:43 PMI also managed to score a cheap copy of The Future Is Now by Non Phixion which I used to love back in the day. Some lazy and dated lyricism aside (Sluts this and Sluts that *sigh*) I'm pleased to report it holds up pretty well, and the beats all fucking bang.

If Necro never decided he could rap I reckon he'd be much higher profile than he is now, truly excellent beatmaker.

The best use of one of his beats (and EL-P just casually gives us the greatest 16 ever put to tape)

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 25, 2022, 01:25:55 PM
Digging in the classics today: Ghostface, Supreme Clientele.

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Sebastian Cobb on May 25, 2022, 03:00:32 PM
I slowly got into what Spotify Wrapped informed me are called 'Trap Queens' I'm definitely not the target audience and I imagine a lot of hip-hop purists might not like them but I do. Some of it is quite stylistically quite similar to early rap by the likes of Schooly D and ICE-T, aggressive rhyming over little more than basic drum tracks, but instead of the day in the life of a gangster it's more about opulent expenditure and finding a man who is good at eating you out.




Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Utter Shit on May 25, 2022, 04:20:55 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 01:42:48 PM

Love this - it's weird, I recognise at least two elements of the beat from other tracks (the repeated chords throughout, and the strings around 0m40s), and I'm pretty sure I sampled the high-pitched keys around 1m30s in a track of my own (cheap plug, sorry: https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/break-of-dawn).
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 06:00:26 PM
Quote from: Swoz_MK on May 25, 2022, 12:40:35 PMThe best use of one of his beats (and EL-P just casually gives us the greatest 16 ever put to tape)

class
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 06:06:18 PM
Quote from: Utter Shit on May 25, 2022, 04:20:55 PMLove this - it's weird, I recognise at least two elements of the beat from other tracks (the repeated chords throughout, and the strings around 0m40s), and I'm pretty sure I sampled the high-pitched keys around 1m30s in a track of my own (cheap plug, sorry: https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/break-of-dawn).

That's quality @Utter Shit just listened to it all, sweet vibes!


Some more here..
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: iamcoop on May 25, 2022, 06:25:35 PM
Quote from: Swoz_MK on May 25, 2022, 12:40:35 PMIf Necro never decided he could rap I reckon he'd be much higher profile than he is now, truly excellent beatmaker.

The best use of one of his beats (and EL-P just casually gives us the greatest 16 ever put to tape)


Yeah Necro has made some god-tier beats. He's a good rapper technically speaking but his lyrics are just boring rubbish.

With regards to that banger, I wish Despot got his shit together and actually made an album. He kills it on every feature.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 25, 2022, 06:39:46 PM
Quote from: iamcoop on May 25, 2022, 06:25:35 PMYeah Necro has made some god-tier beats. He's a good rapper technically speaking but his lyrics are just boring rubbish.

File Aesop Rock and El-P into that category too.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 08:48:53 PM

time for some DOOM
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Post by: Utter Shit on May 25, 2022, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 25, 2022, 06:06:18 PMThat's quality @Utter Shit just listened to it all, sweet vibes!


Some more here..
Ah cheers, I really loved producing for a while but my stupid kids got in the way.

Never heard this track before, it's great. God I love boom bap so much.
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Post by: Levi on May 25, 2022, 11:17:16 PM
Retro, but I've been hammering this recently.

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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 05:43:34 PM

Retro is good
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 26, 2022, 05:51:51 PM
Too much retro recently. Let's go with some new heat.

Drakeo The Ruler - So Cold I Do 'Em 2

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 06:17:49 PM
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on May 26, 2022, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Joe Qunt on May 26, 2022, 05:51:51 PMToo much retro recently. Let's go with some new heat.

Yeah I'm wondering whether there needs to be a retro hip hop thread so it doesn't get in the way of the new stuff.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: dex on May 26, 2022, 08:13:55 PM
Quote from: Utter Shit on May 25, 2022, 09:36:47 PMAh cheers, I really loved producing for a while but my stupid kids got in the way.

Never heard this track before, it's great. God I love boom bap so much.

Binary Star are quality. Self Destruction is a belter.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on May 31, 2022, 11:23:04 AM
Some instrumental stuff now, particularly Madlib's tribute to his good friend Jay Dee, Beat Konducta, Vol. 5-6: Dil Cosby & Dil Withers Suite.

It's amazing to hear Madlib produce in the style of Dilla whilst keeping the samples true to his DNA. Really recommend it if you're a fan of either artist.

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Post by: Lord Mandrake on May 31, 2022, 11:51:05 AM



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Post by: Joe Qunt on June 01, 2022, 02:10:07 PM
Excellent news! My SP404 MKII has finally been despatched! Praise be!

In celebration, I've been listening to the excellent Skyzoo and his fantastic album All The Brilliant Things.

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 06:22:27 PM

Still in my top 10 of all time.  Truly blessed growing up on this stuff.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bushwick on June 02, 2022, 06:46:18 PM
You're not wrong Trenter. It was exciting times. Liquid Swords is such a solid album, filmic and exciting as fuck, maybe the most consistent of the first run of Wu solo albums (Tical was so disappointing). I think I prefer ODB's first out of all of em if I had to choose but I've probably listened to Liquid Swords the most. Was a big album when I was at uni, up there with Logical Progression and Leftism for the amount it got rinsed.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 07:09:17 PM
@bushwick sure you've already heard it but just incase


Fan-made but something that sounds 100% like it should be in the cannon.  I always wished DOOM and RZA would recreate it proper but sadly it wasn't to be.
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 07:33:13 PM

Sorry had a few rums (but it is very good)
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 07:41:51 PM
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 08:02:19 PM
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Post by: TrenterPercenter on June 02, 2022, 08:24:33 PM

OK pissed now I will stop.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Utter Shit on June 02, 2022, 10:54:28 PM
Joey Badass is one of the few modern rappers I really get on with, probably because he usually sticks yo boom bap (or he did last time I checked, it's been a while). Always though Steez blew him away on that track, a huge talent who died before he really made a name for himself. His flow at the start of the verse is just so good.
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Post by: suelgi on June 05, 2022, 02:05:48 AM
Two albums I've really enjoyed lately are Preservation's Hong Kong/China inspired "Eastern Medicine, Western Illness" & MOOR Mother & billy woods "BRASS", really spooky & intense.
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Post by: Joe Qunt on June 06, 2022, 09:18:21 PM
Jay Dee AKA J Dilla – Welcome 2 Detroit. Underrated album.

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Common – Like Water For Chocolate. Just goddamn funky and uplifting, like all of Common's work.

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Future – I NEVER LIKED YOU. Pluto doing what he does best; bangers.

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Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: boki on July 10, 2022, 08:02:24 PM
Quote from: WhoMe on May 23, 2022, 02:25:02 PMAbsolutely great.

They Hate Change - Finally, New (https://theyhatechange.bandcamp.com/album/finally-new)

Stumbled upon this pair as a 'related artist' when I was listening to Moor Mother the other day and I'm loving their stuff.
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Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on July 10, 2022, 08:20:33 PM
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: kngen on July 11, 2022, 02:56:56 PM
Seeing as Griselda has been mentioned:

Benny the Butcher's finest two minutes (why so short, Benny?!?)


Conway the Machine gets Ludacris to drop his best bars in nigh on 20 years.


The whole fam (doing nothing to dissuade me from my first impression of the Griselda crew, that their stuff sounds like RZA did an outreach programme for young offenders)

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: iamcoop on July 11, 2022, 04:07:05 PM
Quote from: kngen on July 11, 2022, 02:56:56 PMSeeing as Griselda has been mentioned:

Benny the Butcher's finest two minutes (why so short, Benny?!?)


Conway the Machine gets Ludacris to drop his best bars in nigh on 20 years.


The whole fam (doing nothing to dissuade me from my first impression of the Griselda crew, that their stuff sounds like RZA did an outreach programme for young offenders)


On paper the Griselda crew's stuff should be right up my street (East Coast, gritty, lyrical, banging beats) but I just haven't been able to get into them at all. I've tried loads.

What would you say is the must have album from that whole collective/scene? I'd like to give it one more go as I'm hoping it will eventually click...
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Post by: kngen on July 11, 2022, 09:39:13 PM
The one that grabbed me initially was Pyrex Picasso by Benny the Butcher, which kicks off with Flood the Block (so if you're not into that, then you might not dig the rest of it either). Conway the Machine's La Maquina and Westside Gunn's Hitler Wears Hermes (!) are the stuff I listen to the most of the others. Might be worth persevering though as they have a ton of mixtapes out, with a shitload of different producers, so the tracks vary wildly in terms of style. Even their albums seem to be a snapshot of what they sounded like that week rather than a grand statement of their musical philosophy.

I'll concede there is a ridiculous amount of hype around them though. My mate in Toronto paid his mortgage for three or four months selling off all his Griselda vinyl that he picked up first time around. (Helps when you know the guy that runs the record shop that they sell their stuff through, I suppose.)
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Post by: Joe Oakes on July 13, 2022, 07:36:46 PM
Really like the beat on this one:

https://revorgrecords.bandcamp.com/track/anyone-order-a-tough-guy-ft-the-strange-neighbour-2
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Post by: Joe Oakes on July 13, 2022, 07:44:22 PM
Quote from: TrenterPercenter on May 24, 2022, 01:42:48 PM


You can't bring up Oddisee and not this track:


Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: TrenterPercenter on July 13, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
Quote from: Joe Oakes on July 13, 2022, 07:44:22 PMYou can't bring up Oddisee and not this track:


Noice

bit more chill

Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: Joe Qunt on July 22, 2022, 10:21:03 AM
Oddisee is playing in Manchester soon, might go along to that.
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Post by: bushwick on July 31, 2022, 08:36:33 AM
Can't stop listening to this Crunchy Black classic. Such a sick three six beat and Crunchy is off his trolley, I love the guy, makes pure ignorant bangers with a very simple and direct approach. Fuckin good at gangster walking too, looks like he's juking or doing that jumpstyle dance almost:

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Post by: Sebastian Cobb on August 08, 2022, 04:19:19 PM
Liking Leikeli47's Shape Up. Think it's self released but is on streaming services.
Article here: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/leikeli47-shape-up/
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Post by: Proactive on August 14, 2022, 09:17:28 AM
Thought this might be appreciated here. Two hour tribute to our very own No Sleep

https://youtu.be/INXfFmuVIcc
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Post by: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 10:23:03 AM
Really digging the new Boldy James album produced by up and coming talent Real Bad Man. Moody gangsta rap set to simplistic but very effective, thick and surly beats. The album as a whole carries a very cohesive atmosphere so the whole thing is a really satisfying listen. When the bass kicked in on the chorus of opening track "Water Under the Bridge" I was instantly hooked in.


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Post by: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 12:33:57 PM
Listening to a bit of Wu Tang lately. Can't beat it.

Tried to listen to modern hip hop but it was like pure unfiltered aids in my ear canal.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 01:10:16 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 12:33:57 PMTried to listen to modern hip hop but it was like pure unfiltered aids in my ear canal.

There are lots of different kinds, perhaps you're not listening to the right ones?
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Post by: Joe Qunt on August 14, 2022, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 12:33:57 PMit was like pure unfiltered aids in my ear canal.

Craig Mack considers rewrite.
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 01:15:05 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 01:10:16 PMThere are lots of different kinds, perhaps you're not listening to the right ones?

Possibly. Last hip hop music I truly liked was Tyler The Creator's Bastard album. Think that was 2010 or so.
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Post by: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 01:15:05 PMPossibly. Last hip hop music I truly liked was Tyler The Creator's Bastard album. Think that was 2010 or so.

If you like the hardcore/abstract end of things on that album have you ever heard Danny Brown (album: XXX) or Lil Ugly Mane (album: Mista Thug Isolation)?
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Post by: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 02:15:18 PM
I've heard of gucci mane but not ugly mane. I may check them out if they're any good. There are just very very few modern musicians that make a legible pleasant sound to me, hip hop included. Which is strange because my taste is quite eclectic. Perhaps music is a young man's game.

Reckon if I was 22 I'd be lapping up lil bow wow and glock9 dubby or whatever.
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Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on August 14, 2022, 02:16:59 PM
Quote from: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 02:02:02 PMIf you like the hardcore/abstract end of things on that album have you ever heard Danny Brown (album: XXX) or Lil Ugly Mane (album: Mista Thug Isolation)?

atrocity exhibition is the danny brown album of choice for me, clive
Title: Re: Hip Hop you've been listening to
Post by: The Mollusk on August 14, 2022, 03:22:10 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on August 14, 2022, 02:15:18 PMI've heard of gucci mane but not ugly mane. I may check them out if they're any good. There are just very very few modern musicians that make a legible pleasant sound to me, hip hop included. Which is strange because my taste is quite eclectic. Perhaps music is a young man's game.

Reckon if I was 22 I'd be lapping up lil bow wow and glock9 dubby or whatever.

I'm 35 and I inhale new music every day son.

Quote from: dontpaintyourteeth on August 14, 2022, 02:16:59 PMatrocity exhibition is the danny brown album of choice for me, clive

Without a doubt, but it's probably quite an intense starting point for the above criteria! It is incredible though, about as close to an accurate representation of a drug induced mental breakdown as I've ever heard in music. It makes me sweat.
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Post by: dontpaintyourteeth on August 14, 2022, 04:31:13 PM
aye maybe it would be an intense introduction. it's so fucking good though!
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Post by: Critcho on August 14, 2022, 06:07:26 PM
Atrocity Exhibition is amazing because it takes the kind of subject matter that other rappers would use to show off how cool they are (spending all your money on hookers n blow etc), but instead portrays it as a harrowing, burnt out nightmare.
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Post by: bushwick on August 15, 2022, 06:44:17 AM
Chief Keef. Godfather of Drill, eccentric and unique artist (he's neurodivergent iirc), prolific AF and pretty much slept on by the industry nowadays. Whether you like him or not, he's been one of the most influential rap artists of the last decade.


(On the subject of not liking new rap and being stuck in the New York Golden Age - I'm 48 and have been listening to rap since "The Message" and I make it a point to always keep up with new stuff. Most of my favourite hip hop is post-Golden Age and I'm always finding new artists and regional styles that I love. 36 Chambers is a great album but it's nearly 30 years old at this point. I've got a few mates my own age whose taste pretty much got cast in iron around Illmatic times and can't seem to move on unless it's Griselda or something that explicitly harkens back to that period. Like Teddy Boys in the 80s or summat lol)
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Post by: bgmnts on August 15, 2022, 07:34:05 PM
Quote from: bushwick on August 15, 2022, 06:44:17 AM(On the subject of not liking new rap and being stuck in the New York Golden Age - I'm 48 and have been listening to rap since "The Message" and I make it a point to always keep up with new stuff. Most of my favourite hip hop is post-Golden Age and I'm always finding new artists and regional styles that I love. 36 Chambers is a great album but it's nearly 30 years old at this point. I've got a few mates my own age whose taste pretty much got cast in iron around Illmatic times and can't seem to move on unless it's Griselda or something that explicitly harkens back to that period. Like Teddy Boys in the 80s or summat lol)


To counter, there are shitloads of people who are younger and primed for modern music who reject modern hip hop and hearken back to the good old days. Were there loads of young kids growing up listening to 80s music that were pining for 50s music? Unsure.

I suppose it depends on how much you're able to care about things being derivative or less authentic seeming or whatever.

I can only say from my experience, as someone who isn't a massive hip hop fan, that Enter the Wu-Tang is probably the apex of the genre; the perfect combination of lyricism, flow, sampling, beats and aesthetic. It feels real when you listen to it, and the kung fu twist is obviously going to ensure a very loyal attachment to it as it's quite niche.

I suppose a good measure is to look at artists from the 90s who are still big players. Is Eminem's art now as good as it was in the 90s/early 00s?
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Post by: The Mollusk on August 15, 2022, 11:23:54 PM
Quote from: bgmnts on August 15, 2022, 07:34:05 PMI can only say from my experience, as someone who isn't a massive hip hop fan, that Enter the Wu-Tang is probably the apex of the genre; the perfect combination of lyricism, flow, sampling, beats and aesthetic. It feels real when you listen to it ...

For measure, I could easily say very similar if not the same for Freddie Gibbs and Madlib's album Piñata (assuming that by "the genre" you mean gangsta rap, since it would be unfair to put decades of various evolving subgenres under one umbrella for the sake of saying hip hop simply isn't as good nowadays).

Piñata fully operates in the same realm as vintage Wu-Tang and came out only 8 years ago, a time when hip hop was becoming a lot more experimental especially following the release of Yeezus, so it's not unreasonable at all to say that classics of a certain style of music which stay true to a core aesthetic of decades past can still emerge in the present day.

Anyway broadening the point about hip hop "feeling real" when you listen to it, as I alluded to before loads of modern hip hop feels as real to me as the classics, for various reasons. Earl Sweatshirt, Vince Staples, Danny Brown, Death Grips, Mach-Hommy, Denzel Curry, those artists and many more are about as real as you can get in their own right.