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Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope

Started by Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse, May 03, 2022, 09:56:56 PM

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QDRPHNC

Quote from: Barry Admin on May 06, 2022, 03:45:06 PM

She put her red hair over her shoulder in the light of the setting sun and as it flashed in her eyes she thought, "is that come?"

Mindy Simmons



Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PMI was going to suggest this on the last thread, then thought it looked a bit cunty, given that you're having fun and putting a lot of effort in. But previous intro posts would cut and consolidate stuff in each new iteration as a matter of course. When it's as long as the first post here, I worry that most people won't bother to read it.
It wouldn't have looked cunty at all, Mr. Six, and I agree with the rest of your post - in fact that's exactly why I want to start doing it. That first post is getting unwieldy.

I will continue to change up the pictures etc. just to keep it fresh.

Isn't the point that it's loads of repetitive instances of the same behaviour though? Call someone a paedo, go on FB news to complain about no Twitter, rinse, repeat.

An ever growing list that goes in circles is the most fitting tribute.

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: drummersaredeaf on May 06, 2022, 09:56:30 PMIsn't the point that it's loads of repetitive instances of the same behaviour though? Call someone a paedo, go on FB news to complain about no Twitter, rinse, repeat.

An ever growing list that goes in circles is the most fitting tribute.
Maybe, but there's a snappier way to get that across that doesn't alienate new people.

mtpromises

Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 05:50:13 PMBanana post



Would I be right in thinking that if you are pro-surrogacy then the sex of either/both of the prospective parents is irrelevant?
You have to remember a good part of Graham's audience/people he steals ideas from are rad fems, like former Mess host Benji, and are literally man hating "female separatists".  There is also a ton of resentment from lesbian rad fems towards gay men for being the most visible and successful part of the LBTG+ movement.  So it's a triple hate whammie for some of these cretins to see gay men using surrogacy.

Quote from: mtpromises on May 06, 2022, 10:16:37 PMYou have to remember a good part of Graham's audience/people he steals ideas from are rad fems, like former Mess host Benji, and are literally man hating "female separatists".  There is also a ton of resentment from lesbian rad fems towards gay men for being the most visible and successful part of the LBTG+ movement.  So it's a triple hate whammie for some of these cretins to see gay men using surrogacy.

You're quite right, if you spend a lot of time with them it must soak in - this is from the guy that wore the LGB Alliance T-shirt to the big demo at Downing St a few weeks ago, was arrested and then went on The BC Show.



A man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body.

Kankurette


madhair60

Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 06:09:08 PMI was going to suggest this on the last thread, then thought it looked a bit cunty, given that you're having fun and putting a lot of effort in. But previous intro posts would cut and consolidate stuff in each new iteration as a matter of course. When it's as long as the first post here, I worry that most people won't bother to read it.

Yeah, I agree that it should be consolidated; the old versions will be available in the index anyway

Mister Six

Quote from: Better Midlands on May 06, 2022, 10:53:43 PMYou're quite right, if you spend a lot of time with them it must soak in - this is from the guy that wore the LGB Alliance T-shirt to the big demo at Downing St a few weeks ago, was arrested and then went on The BC Show.



A man telling a woman what she can and can't do with her own body.

Are they vociferously against surrogacy in general?

No, of course they're fucking not.

FalknerHinton

Quote from: Mister Six on May 06, 2022, 11:48:15 PMAre they vociferously against surrogacy in general?

No, of course they're fucking not.

A lot of them are. Remember, when the Ukraine business kicked off and several GC/radfems were pleased, because they thought it would put an end to the "Ukrainian baby factories".

Cold Meat Platter

Seems like surrogacy is ok as long as a woman is one of the parents.

Gay men who aren't having children through surrogacy, no women involved. FINE
Straight couple i.e. featuring a 'real' (irony just in case the terminally disingenuous are reading) woman using surrogates? FINE
Lesbian surrogacy? FINE
Gay men paying women to bear their child: MISOGYNY



Mister Six

Quote from: FalknerHinton on May 07, 2022, 12:01:21 AMA lot of them are. Remember, when the Ukraine business kicked off and several GC/radfems were pleased, because they thought it would put an end to the "Ukrainian baby factories".

At least those ones are consistent, but the only complaints I've seen have been centred entirely around gay men using surrogates.

Elfking

Quote from: Kankurette on May 06, 2022, 11:03:36 PMYes, because adopting kids is so easy for gay couples.

Of course. They just move the goalposts. First the battle was allowing gay couples to adopt then as soon as they lose that battle they move behind the next barrier. In this case it's criticising surrogacy as if the woman has no say. Do they think two gay men walk up to a woman demand they be a surrogate and the woman has no choice but to agree? It's ludicrous.

But that's why the battle for equal rights is so exhausting. These cunts will make you fight and claw for every inch. They will inevitably lose but they will make you work for every step of the journey.

Sonny_Jim

Just reading that 'piece' on the SGB about trans4me.

QuotePublicity for the group, which meets weekly, says it is aimed at children aged 12-18, though one listing describes the age range as 13-19. There is no mention in any of the publicity for the need for parental or carer approval or involvement.

You might already have your eyebrows raised at the wide age range: youth groups don't usually have children as young as 12 or 13 mixing with adults of 18 or 19.

Venture scouts does that age range., even one of the Glincels points out that MENCAP does that range as well. Plus just about any youth organisation ever tends to have older-ish kids looking after the young 'uns, in a mentoring role.  So right at the start it's heading for the paedo angle.

Then it's off to the organisers twitter account where, shock horror, they find that she's liked tweets by GAY PEOPLE.  Oh my!

QuoteThe Damon Heart is an adult performer: scrolling down brings up some very explicit tweets. Anyone viewing the account will see recommendations for other sexual content, including a gay porn blog. In other words, any of Trans4Me's members curiously googling for information about the group facilitator will find this content very quickly. 
Will they?  Will they really?  Or did you have to go digging around in their twitter account to show something you thought was repulsive in an attempt to smear someones character?

It's fucking B-A-N-A-N-A-S he accuses us of a hate campaign against him, when he's publishing 'articles' like this which are clearly designed as a hit piece.  The sad part is, the only people who are going to fall for this gotcha are homophobes, which Graham is quite adamant he is not.  In fact it is everyone else who is the homophobe.



My retort to that is GC is an industry for absolute dullard homophobes to give their money to grifters.

Elfking

I would've thought parental consent would be obvious regardless. Not that someone 16 or over really needs it just to go to a meeting. The only reason younger people might need consent is because they need consent for everything since they're, you know, kids.

But yeah, this is hardly new. When I was in the Beavers we would go on camping trips and would frequently be with boys that were nearly double our ages at some points. I distinctly remember being really tired one night and an older teenager giving me a piggy back ride back to the tents when I was probably 10 or 11. Unfortunately these people see predators everywhere and think any interaction between an adult and child is grooming or suspicious, obviously when trans people are involved the klaxons and sirens go off for them.

shoulders

Every youth club I attended or know about seems to have a wide range of ages in attendance, largely because they wouldn't be viable as a community facility if they didn't.

If you haven't figured out these are some socially conservative cunts, there's a big siren wailing.

It's morbidly entertaining as they hop around from sports to youth clubs to US politics to discover just how fucking unbelievably ignorant they are.

Venture Scouts was my first thought too, I remember them coming and helping on camps even when I was in the cubs - it's a good thing, they're there in a big brother/sister capacity. They'd freak if they found out that in The Netherlands the Scouts are mixed sex and I think the age range is 12-19ish.

Also gay club nights are "adult entertainment events" - more casual homophobia


A couple of "we don't have to agree with everything they say, it's called being an adult" posts.




Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

The Sea Scouts are mixed gender and have been for a long time.

Every martial arts club I've been in permits teenagers (generally 14/15 and older) to join their adults' class.

Kankurette

Christ Staniland is stupid. Her go-to response for everything is 'is it because I is a woman?'

greencalx

My god, their minds are going to be blown when they find that the age range at secondary schools is 11-18. And I believe a lot of them even let boys and girls use the same entrance. It's truly the end of times.

Sonny_Jim

Not only that, but we checked the twitter account of one of the crossing guards.  They had pronouns in the bio AND in 2011 liked a post from Tim Westwood.

Fucking groomers /s

EDIT: Just noticed those tweets about 'adult entertainment' (aka 'gay nights') were from 7 years ago.  He has to go 7 years in the past to dig up dirt on someone.  It's fucking pathetic.

jobotic

My daughter goes to Beavers.

Well she did, I'm pulling her out. Imagine my horror when I found out that there are boys there too, some of the Venture Scouts that help out are teenagers and the whole thing is run by adults!!!!!!!!!!??!!!!! And I don't know their sexuality, no one has been decent enough to share that information with us.

I had naturally assumed that it was run exclusively for and by 6-8 year old girls.

Rich Uncle Skeleton

Quote from: QDRPHNC on May 06, 2022, 08:47:12 PMShe put her red hair over her shoulder in the light of the setting sun and as it flashed in her eyes she thought, "is that come?"

Hahaha

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: Elfking on May 07, 2022, 03:33:17 AMBut yeah, this is hardly new. When I was in the Beavers we would go on camping trips and would frequently be with boys that were nearly double our ages at some points. I distinctly remember being really tired one night and an older teenager giving me a piggy back ride back to the tents when I was probably 10 or 11.
God it's almost like having teenagers and younger kids in the same organisation helps teenagers build empathy and a sense of responsibility or something

phantom_power

And that adults are able to compartmentalise their "adult" lives  from their roles safeguarding children. Because teachers never fuck and scoutmasters never watch porn.

retsuza

Quote from: Kankurette on May 07, 2022, 09:25:19 AMChrist Staniland is stupid. Her go-to response for everything is 'is it because I is a woman?'

And she KNOWS Matt Walsh is a "women belong in the kitchen" type who has misogyny baked deeply into his very being. He has "Theocratic Fascist" in his bio and it's meant to be a joke but everything he says confirms that really is how he thinks, like a racist who makes a lot of edgy "jokes" (conveniently only jokes if someone calls them out on them).

Like for fucks sake he's going around saying shit like this:


But Staniland thinks the true misogyny is pointing this out because apparently the issue here is she's a woman. To borrow a phrase she likes to use "this is not a serious person".