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Starmer VIII: Labour will set you free

Started by pancreas, March 16, 2022, 08:54:56 AM

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Old Thrashbarg

Quote from: shoulders on June 12, 2022, 08:52:48 AMDesperately sad Corbyn couldn't have not agreed to the election and hung on for a few months to be opposition leader during Covid, which would have - temporarily - swept away Brexit as an issue. He would have marmalised Johnson and Hancock. What's more, it would still have been a hung parliament.

Yeah, it was a bad decision at the time, even when we didn't know what the next few months would bring. But it's a decision that's become worse and worse as time has gone on. We'd have had an election last month and Corbyn would be PM now.

Martin Van Buren Stan

Quote from: shoulders on June 12, 2022, 08:52:48 AMKeith's inability to translate any of the anger over the Covid parties to support for Labour is criminally incompetent.

Desperately sad Corbyn couldn't have not agreed to the election and hung on for a few months to be opposition leader during Covid, which would have - temporarily - swept away Brexit as an issue. He would have marmalised Johnson and Hancock. What's more, it would still have been a hung parliament.

I recall the Tories being very popular in the early days of COVID probably because of furlough

JohnnyCouncil

All hypothetical but doubt he would have lasted this long. The bluetick trend for 'supporting the government in a time of crisis' would have ousted him. Plus y'know the whole antisemitism thing.

jobotic

Quote from: olliebean on June 11, 2022, 07:06:28 PMHe gave a good performance on Question Time the other day. Actually managed to sound like a socialist. I didn't believe a word of it, but many will. So he'll get the votes the same way Starmer did.

This Question Time?

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2022/06/tom-harwood-and-art-of-lying.html?m=1

To be fair I didn't watch it. Never do. It angers up the blood.

king_tubby

jfc.

https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1535908626216493056

'Do you support the RMT strikes, Rachel Reeves?'

'Ur, I'm not a train, I'm the shadow chancellor'

This is the quality of the Labour front bench.

Video Game Fan 2000

Quote from: shoulders on June 12, 2022, 08:42:10 AMThe conspiracy narrative that Starmer isn't actually trying to get Labour elected in 2024 resurfaces.

if they're following the democrat model then there is the belief that there is money in monopolising opposition and "organising" than there is in taking power at the center. or just that one more cycle is necessary to purge the rot and embed themselves in the market

this labour party is far too milquetoast to even be the party of NGOs and activist-ism tho

idunnosomename

I am a train who works in the train industry and I have more humanity and agency than Rachel Reeves. Toot toot!

Spoon of Ploff

Quote from: king_tubby on June 12, 2022, 01:27:03 PMjfc.

https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1535908626216493056

'Do you support the RMT strikes, Rachel Reeves?'

'Ur, I'm not a train, I'm the shadow chancellor'

This is the quality of the Labour front bench.


olliebean

Quote from: jobotic on June 12, 2022, 11:13:05 AMThis Question Time?

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2022/06/tom-harwood-and-art-of-lying.html?m=1

To be fair I didn't watch it. Never do. It angers up the blood.

Yes, that was the one. The main thing he said that ought to play well with socialists (those who believe him, anyway) was calling for renationalisation of the railways. Worth about as much as Starmer's pledge on public ownership, I daresay.

Pink Gregory

well having Reeves about cancels that one out, so...

phantom_power

Ooh the political pendulum is swinging towards competence. Sexy, sexy competence. Is that what he is selling? That he isn't a fucking useless, lying bag of shit? I suppose targets should be achievable. It's not going to inspire the young to go out and vote though is it. Vote beige

Sebastian Cobb

I don't even think it means he won't lie, just that he'll lie competently and hopes he won't get found out.

His current work is not representative of that though, it's pretty easy to prove when he's lied it's just our press-appointed stenographers haven't bothered to do anything about it.

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Voters are asked which words they associate with Keith. Forensic not even on there.

dissolute ocelot

Ooh he's being investigated by the parliament standards commissioner over "earnings and gifts, benefits or hospitality". It's possible this is just shit-stirring by people even more right-wing than him. But like Beergate it doesn't help with the optics.


Spoon of Ploff

Quote from: Quote on June 13, 2022, 11:21:37 AM

Voters are asked which words they associate with Keith. Forensic not even on there.

so far i've found twat, arsehole, tosser, dick.... have i missed any?


lipsink

Owen Jones said that he's met Keir Starmer a few times in real life and he's as boring and as uncharismatic as he comes across. Ed Milliband, apparently, is lovely and charismatic in real life.

shoulders

Quote from: Quote on June 13, 2022, 11:21:37 AM

Voters are asked which words they associate with Keith. Forensic not even on there.

Not just me then.

To manage to be both boring and untrustworthy is astounding. Literally the only reason why you'd project boringness is if you thought the public would find you otherwise trustworthy.

My favourite one is the slightly blurry 'tosser'.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: lipsink on June 13, 2022, 12:14:50 PMOwen Jones said that he's met Keir Starmer a few times in real life and he's as boring and as uncharismatic as he comes across. Ed Milliband, apparently, is lovely and charismatic in real life.

Had a pal who was getting into journalism in the Clegg/Cameron era. He said Clegg seemed like a slimy fucker, and although he didn't like him as such, Osbourne was one of the nicer ones to speak to in person.

shoulders

Kind of weird that

'tumour'

Wasn't on there, even in smaller letters.



Fambo Number Mive

If a left wing Labour MP stood against this utter waste of sperm, would it be the MPs mainly voting like the Tories or do the members get more of a say? Because surely many of the members and unions must be fed up of him destroying the Labour Party as an electable force.

FalknerHinton

Quote from: Spoon of Ploff on June 13, 2022, 11:35:56 AMso far i've found twat, arsehole, tosser, dick.... have i missed any?

tory

king_tubby

This hospitality thing is an absolute nothing. But he's made this rod for his own back.

Fambo Number Mive

Quote from: Spoon of Ploff on June 13, 2022, 11:35:56 AMso far i've found twat, arsehole, tosser, dick.... have i missed any?

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shoulders



Sebastian Cobb

Basically hearsay at the moment but:

QuoteHave seen some compelling suggestions that the story touted for why Starmer is in trouble with the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner is a load of bollocks, and that it's either for something much more serious or they're outright covering for him.

🔐 acct so can't RT, but do you remember during the second jobs scandal some "legal advice" payments were added extremely late to Starmer's register of interests?

These were apparently before Starmer gave up his certificate to practise, so why did they take years to be added?

They either represent a pretty serious breach of standards by leaving it undeclared for the better part of two years, or Starmer lied about giving up his certificate to practise, or he's doing it without a certificate which could be illegal.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sir-keir-starmer-paid-thousands-for-legal-work-as-second-job-kbpd0vrrn

https://twitter.com/BareLeft/status/1536316155354284034

times link sans paywall https://archive.ph/Ojoeq