The Mail Yesterday (AKA I hate the Mail)

[thisissi]

As I was signing my credit card receipt for some petrol yesterday I was reading the mail on the counter.

The front page was a story about how a Lord (can't remember the name) who was an advisor to Tony Blair on something or other and also was something in the BBC was involved in a company that " helped perverts" to buy "hardcore pornography" on the internet.

It turned out he was a director of paypal.

What a load of crap.  They could level the same complaint at pipex for gods sake.

[hoverdonkey]

The people that shout the loudest have the most to hide. Any journey through the personal PC's of Daily Mail journalists would prove that.

[Partridge's Love Child]

I saw someone reading that on the Tube.  Isn't it John Birt - the headline being Lord Dirt, which I quite liked.

Seen as Birt is a twat, all bets are off on this one.

[thisissi]

I saw someone reading that on the Tube.  Isn't it John Birt - the headline being Lord Dirt, which I quite liked.

Seen as Birt is a twat, all bets are off on this one.

That's the one, don't know much about him, just thought I'd have ago at the Daily Mail.

[morgs]

I got a free Daily Mail with a bunch of coupons saying 'buy us cheap for a month' or somesuch crap.  What a hideously facist paper.  I wanted to use it to clear up my dog's shit but I haven't got one, so I just shat on it myself

[12 years, 11 months old]

Yeah I hate the Daily Mail, its the definition of all that's bad about middle class values: the self interested politics of fear.

However, I can't help thinking I'm being a bit of a typical lefty student in this, so what I'd really like to do is go all Ironic Review and say 'Well actually, I really like the Daily Mail, Aaaah, you weren't expecting that, were you?'. But the only thing I can muster in its defence is that it has the best TV guide of any newspaper, a massive magazine with about eight pages for each day as I recall.

[Munday's Chylde]

This isn't on topic as such...

...I used to buy a newspaper every day. Now I don't. I'm wondering how newspapers survive and whether their survival will continue in this day and age. I don't peruse internet newspaper sites but I've been to the sun one a few times when I was doing deidre cartoons and I did notice that the sun site contains their entire newspaper everyday, free - as more and more of the world go online what possible reason is there to buy newspapers any more if you're not a commuter?

[hoverdonkey]

This isn't on topic as such...

...I used to buy a newspaper every day. Now I don't. I'm wondering how newspapers survive and whether their survival will continue in this day and age. I don't peruse internet newspaper sites but I've been to the sun one a few times when I was doing deidre cartoons and I did notice that the sun site contains their entire newspaper everyday, free - as more and more of the world go online what possible reason is there to buy newspapers any more if you're not a commuter?

I think they will always exist. No one likes reading long passages of text on a computer monitor and the chance to actually relax in a comfy chair with the actual print in your hands is very important subconsciously I think.

Online versions of papers should provide people with news at a glance, but either make them pay for longer stories/more detail or let them buy the paper to read the editorial/features etc.

[Marcus Or Relius]

I only buy Saturday papers for the TV guides 'cos I can't be arsed waiting for the Radio Times' website pages to load to see what's on during the week. Otherwise I don't bother buying them, not when most of them are online.

Back to The Daily Mail, I caught a bit of some Five programme about contreversial...contraversial, oh fuck it I can't be arsed to look up the proper spelling... Anyway, it was about kontravurrshall advertising campaigns, one being the French Connection's fcuk logo, and there were a few montages of newspapers to highlight the 'indignation' at this logo. The main one was, naturally, the Daily Mail, a column by Lynda Lee Potter headlined "I will never buy their clothes again!!!111" even though the withered old crone probably had never heard of them until she decided to be offended by it.

[fanny splendid]

Best online tv guide is Channel 5's.

http://www.five.tv/tvguide/

Then click on multi channel.

If there's an easier one, do let me know.

[european son]

the French Connection's fcuk logo, and there were a few montages of newspapers to highlight the 'indignation' at this logo. The main one was, naturally, the Daily Mail, a column by Lynda Lee Potter

i read the same article... it was class

she read the slogan "fcuk advertising" as "sex advertising", rather than its obvious colloquial meaning, "forget advertising".

she thought that "sex advertising" was bad for the kids.

i was in stitches.

[chand]

I have a massive problem with the fcuk campaign, not because it offends me, but because they've been using the same joke for 8 fucking years, and many of the slogans don't even work. And people that wear it think they're terribly subversive.

Anyway, that PayPal article was dreadful. The Daily Mail may as well blame Al Gore, because he was involved at some point in the early stages of ARPANET, and therefore is responsible for this tidal wave of filth. They could call it 'AL PORN'.

[peet]

Best online tv guide is Channel 5's.

http://www.five.tv/tvguide/

Then click on multi channel.

If there's an easier one, do let me know.

I dunno about easier, but this one has more channel options  http://www.onthebox.com   Needs a pop-up blocker though.

[Gamma Ray]

Ah, yes, the Daily Mail. It has helped me understand the origins of my bent humour in that I have often observed my father reading if 'for a laugh'. What else do you do for kicks dad? Scoop your eyeballs out with plastic forks and eat them?

Still, strange personal tics aside, I as you might have guessed share your loathing of this thing. I mean lets face facts, it's not really a newspaper is it? Few of them are - banal comics filled with tawdry titillation or insane propaganda written by inbred hicks who've never seen a real live black man, maybe ... Anyhow, I hate it so much that I really have to get pro-active in my  antagonism, otherwise the bile that it's generating might well melt it's way through my stomach. I was always going to buy the thing every day, pick out a particularly juicy story about drugs/asylum seekers/paedophiles/guardian readers/yoghurt flooding our streets, and write to them in disguise as one of their target demographic saying how all this action that they're so worked up about is a good thing, bringing a little excitement into my otherwise vacuous and pointless life. Or maybe just say that I'm a high powered lawyer and who am I going to fuck/get to urinate on me/wolfbag and get my crack/heroin/cake off if they kick out all these foreign types? I mean you know that english people couldn't possibly indulge in that behaviour and yet I can't get through a busy day of legal briefs without my illegal immigrant sweat bath. I was even going to archive it at a website called The Daily Hate Mail. So much for that, ¿eh?

Unfortunately I think that they saw me coming, and every day I bought the thing it seemed to be full of really rather mild stories about Charlotte Church-Features' bounder of a boyfriend etc. Still, maybe we could resurrect it here - there's enough of us after all. Call it a challenge - instead of making a post here, put your creative talents to good use and make a post to the Daily Mail. Spread the love right back where it came from.

[smoker]

This isn't on topic as such...

...I used to buy a newspaper every day. Now I don't. I'm wondering how newspapers survive and whether their survival will continue in this day and age. I don't peruse internet newspaper sites but I've been to the sun one a few times when I was doing deidre cartoons and I did notice that the sun site contains their entire newspaper everyday, free - as more and more of the world go online what possible reason is there to buy newspapers any more if you're not a commuter?

I think they will always exist. No one likes reading long passages of text on a computer monitor and the chance to actually relax in a comfy chair with the actual print in your hands is very important subconsciously I think.

Online versions of papers should provide people with news at a glance, but either make them pay for longer stories/more detail or let them buy the paper to read the editorial/features etc.

so long as they are still being read by their taget audiences in any format they will survive, all newspaper profits come through their advertising. this is why the slant on the facts and opinions in each paper is tailored to match the viewponts of  each paper's target audience and also the advertisers within.

[chand]

The Express is possibly even worse these days.

On Sundays, Kilroy writes his column under a big 'BANNED BY THE BBC' banner, and now feels free to write four items on a page, usually all about Muslims and immigration and 'political correctness', and how he's just telling the TRUTH and no-one can handle it.

Its demographic laps it up, on the letters page this Sunday were a bunch of anti-immigrant letters saying things like (and this is a genuine quote) 'there are too many immigrants in this country'. One person who wrote an anti-immigrant letter commending Kilroy's brave stances had the stupefying arrogance to say that Kilroy was voicing 'British public opinion'. If there's one thing guaranteed to piss me off it's when someone talks about 'public opinion', especially when they use it to imply that everyone in Britain wants non-Anglo Saxons to fuck off back to Africa. Christ.

There was also another fantastically deranged letter from someone demanding Tony Blair a referendum on 'joining the EU', something he couldn't really do since he became Prime Minister a good 24 years after that decision was made.