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Quote from: Blue Jam on August 19, 2021, 03:47:16 PMNow you put it that way I think you're absolutely right. Perhaps Jimmy is always "The Real Jimmy" but Saul Goodman is just Jimmy at the point where he's finally feeling totally comfortable in his own skin (as Gilligan and Gould have often described him). The influence of people around him and who he wants to impress (or doesn't) certainly have shaped him, whether it was having Marco in awe of him, winning Chuck's respect or getting into a relationship with Kim.
Quote from: Blue Jam on August 19, 2021, 03:47:16 PMI'm now wondering if Kim "breaking bad" at the end of season 5 might tip her over into full-on Enabler Mode and make her very bad for Jimmy, pushing him closer to becoming Saul, rather than her leaving him being the thing that makes Saul become so very jaded and cynical. In any case I can't see Kim sticking by the man who sexually harasses poor Francesca (who ends up even more jaded than he is) and gets regular visits from his "chiropractor".
Quote from: Blue Jam on August 19, 2021, 03:47:16 PMYes, that bit's horrible as well, and again maybe not too far removed from the kind of behaviour we'd expect from Saul. I'm thinking Howard's "Do you know who else really knew Jimmy? Chuck" comment might be another portentous one. Kim may be aware of Jimmy's past as a conman, and she may know about the Chicago Sunroof incident, but I bet What Happened In Cicero Stayed In Cicero.
QuoteDalton gave a status update in a conversation with the website Quién. In the interview, translated from Spanish, the actor mentioned that he'd recently spoke to Odenkirk and found him in good spirits."He already wants to go back to work," he said. "But well, until his doctors and his wife let him basically, he won't be able to return, but I hope he will be back soon."As far as where filming stands, Dalton explained, "Right now we are filming all the scenes he is not in and waiting until he is given the green light to return to work, but the truth is despite everything this business entails, the most important thing is that he is healthy ... I mean, it's someone's life, nothing is more important."
QuoteA couple of weeks ago, Bob Odenkirk was hospitalized after fainting on the set of the Better Call Saul series . At that time, the 58-year-old actor was filming a scene in the series with actor Tony Dalton , in New Mexico, in the United States, when he collapsed."I was next to him and it was very strong, poor truth, I say he had a heart attack. I had never seen that and much less on a Hollywood set, on the forum, the people and everything. But it's okay, He is already at home with his family, "added Tony.
QuoteBreaking Bad ended with Walt being able to finally provide for his family (he told Skyler he did it all for himself so that she would use the lottery ticket to get a deal with the DEA).
Quote from: Timothy on August 21, 2021, 12:24:43 PMI always thought Walt was telling himself he was doing it to provide for his family (and that it started that way) while in reality he was only in it for himself. Wasnt there a point in BB where he could step away with enough money and decided not to because he didnt want to go back to his ordinary life or am I remembering this wrong? Been a while since I saw BB.
Quote from: Blue Jam on August 21, 2021, 12:16:57 PMAnother great post JTC. I'm thinking prison too, Jimmy could stop being paranoid and ironically would have a freedom of sorts, out of the gilded cage that is his life in Nebraska and free to be himself. Maybe he could deal drop phones or offer legal advice in return for favours- do lawyers fare better than cops in prison? I can imagine their skillset comes in quite handy. It could be like the end of The Producers.Also Walt died, Jesse escaped and may yet get a shot at redemption, surely Jimmy's fate will have to be something different? After death and redemption what other option is there but prison?
Quote from: Mister Six on August 22, 2021, 12:32:57 AMI'm well behind on this and ought to catch up. Which season ended with his brother kicking at a lamp?
Quote from: Rev+ on August 22, 2021, 12:02:33 AMI really can't see him ending up in prison, just because - unless there's something major that he's done and I've forgotten - he'd likely only get a very short stretch, which isn't a satisfying way to leave the character. Bent lawyers tend not to go to prison, because they're technically only adjacent to actual crimes.
Quote from: JamesTC on August 21, 2021, 07:14:35 PMThen I feel sympathy for Jimmy when he breaks down in the insurance office and it turns out it is all just a ploy to get Chuck to lose his license to practice. Jimmy keeps manipulating the audience just as much as he manipulates the people around him.
Quote from: JamesTC on August 21, 2021, 01:19:30 PMFor me, Walt is a victim of toxic masculinity. He is motivated by the need to be the one who provides for his family. His ego is hurt most when people want to either give him charity or when Skyler wants to step in and help. He eventually agrees to the money laundering through the Charity because at least he knows he provided for the family even if others don't. Walt knows he did his duty as a man.
Quote from: Racy Horn"I'm very much more the stereotypical 'man' as far as the relationship roles," Seehorn says about Kim. "Jimmy is more emotional, more reactive, wants to talk everything out, and thinks everything is personal and Kim's very project-oriented. Very just, 'Slow it down, here's the problem, here's the solution' kind of thing."... ..."[Viewers] believe that this 10-year love and foundation of a friendship and romantic relationship is there, partially because the characters are allowed to argue. And you don't always see a woman being allowed to just be mad and leave the room. Or not make things palatable for the man and I do get to do that." Seehorn also says that Jimmy and Kim's foundation is "not so shakeable that she can't say, 'I'm working, can you just get out of my way?' And it actually makes our hero/antihero smarter and cooler that he loves a woman like that."
Quote from: Blue Jam on August 24, 2021, 02:48:52 PM[Walt] getting angry at Walt Jr. for looking up to his more macho Uncle Hank and then punishing him for it by letting him drink himself sick.
Quote from: JamesTC on August 24, 2021, 07:32:15 PMKim sees right through Saul's bullshit in a way that nobody else does. Chuck apparently knew Jimmy better than anybody else but he didn't see much of his antics coming.
QuoteJust watched Kim raging against Mr Acker for not playing by the rules. She is arguing against everything that Saul represents yet she continues to enable him and stick by him.
QuoteIt is hinted at in Season 5 that Kim is an Adult Child of an Alcoholic which Rhea Seahorn has said she saw from her very first episode (Rhea's father was an alcoholic). She sticks by Saul in an act of unconscious self harm. After Chuck reveals what Jimmy did to the Mesa Verde files is one of the few times she lashes out at Jimmy.
QuoteI wonder if Saul sees a challenge in Kim. Somebody who isn't as easily manipulated, even if much of the time she doesn't need to be manipulated as she goes along with his destructive behaviour.
Quote from: amputeeporn on August 17, 2021, 11:38:25 PMApologies if this is in the wrong place but I've just started watching this show (obviously I quickly scrolled past all this season 6 talk). I'm onto episode 9 of season one, and have been meaning to post here with each passing ep, to ask if and when the show improves...
Quoteon Friday night, Odenkirk threw out the ceremonial first pitch and sang the seventh-inning stretch — technically the fifth-inning stretch during a doubleheader — at the Chicago Cubs' game against the St. Louis Cardinals at Wrigley Field.
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