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Anthony Broadwater/Alice Sebold

Started by pigamus, December 01, 2021, 11:29:49 AM

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pigamus


imitationleather


Awful, I hadn't heard of any of it until this  morning.

canadagoose

Jeez. So he was just in prison for 16 years for nothing? Why did she identify him as the culprit if he wasn't? What an awful story.

Quote from: canadagoose on December 01, 2021, 12:00:50 PMJeez. So he was just in prison for 16 years for nothing?

Worse than that, he was released in 1998.

canadagoose

Quote from: Better Midlands on December 01, 2021, 12:08:11 PMWorse than that, he was released in 1998.
I just read that he had to register as a sex offender afterwards too. She absolutely ruined his life. What a horrible person.

dissolute ocelot

If only she'd just got Liam Neeson to go round and beat the black guy up, none of this would have happened.

Also the film of The Lovely Bones is fucking terrible.

EDIT: I'm sure the book is too, now.

Icehaven

So she saw him in the street and thought it was him, then picked the wrong man in a line-up, then when he was charged anyway again identified him in court? How the hell did that get a convi... oh I know.

pigamus

Supposedly there were fibres of clothing or somesuch, but apparently that was a complete crock of shit.

Endicott

Blame the American justice system, not her. She was only 18, and recently been raped. The whole process should have stopped when she failed to pick him in the line-up, but the police decided to keep going. They will have explained to her that they 'knew' it was him.

Icehaven

And any of the police officers involved will almost certainly have retired and/or died since, so they'll never be held to account.

pigamus

Quote from: Endicott on December 01, 2021, 12:23:50 PMBlame the American justice system, not her. She was only 18, and recently been raped. The whole process should have stopped when she failed to pick him in the line-up, but the police decided to keep going. They will have explained to her that they 'knew' it was him.

Hard to know how to feel about her really. Certainly it's a horrendous thing to have to live with, on top of the fact that your rapist was never really caught at all and could even still be doing it.

Alberon

Yeah, it easy to pour scorn on a successful author now, but she was an 18 year old attacked and raped. Months later she thought she passed her attacker in a street, Broadwater was arrested as he was apparently in the area and then she failed to pick him out of a line up.

She identified him in court, but of course she had been told they had the right man. The other piece of evidence had to do with hair analysis, something that has long since been dismissed as junk science.

It should never have gone to trial, he should never have been convicted and it should long, long ago been overturned.

There are no winners here. Broadwater's life has been destroyed, Sebold knows she had a hand in that AND that the real rapist might have got away scott free.

You'd hope that awful shit like that doesn't happen anymore, but it probably does.

Twonty Gostelow

I read in an article last weekend that Broadwater doesn't hold her personally responsible, and believes she was easily misled by the defence.

But there was also a fair bit about her changing or embroidering details about it in her memoir.

TrenterPercenter

Quote from: Endicott on December 01, 2021, 12:23:50 PMBlame the American justice system, not her. She was only 18, and recently been raped. The whole process should have stopped when she failed to pick him in the line-up, but the police decided to keep going. They will have explained to her that they 'knew' it was him.

Yes should be made clear it was just a case of mistaken identity and the accused was actually very gracious of Sebold's apology as presumably he recognised it wasn't her fault.

However, it perhaps might serve as bit of thought of what how highly emotive reductionist views about crimes might feed into the behaviour of the police.  Too many people are hot on this if you've got nothing hide then nothing to fear when obviously you could just look like someone that has something to hide.

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on December 01, 2021, 12:33:43 PMHowever, it perhaps might serve as bit of thought of what how highly emotive reductionist views about crimes might feed into the behaviour of the police.  Too many people are hot on this if you've got nothing hide then nothing to fear when obviously you could just look like someone that has something to hide.

I agree, this attitude is really starting creep in the last five years or so.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: Alberon on December 01, 2021, 12:31:50 PMThere are no winners here. Broadwater's life has been destroyed, Sebold knows she had a hand in that AND that the real rapist might have got away scott free.

I think the executive producer that went to the effort of blowing it apart based on a hunch comes out of it looking alright.

idunnosomename

The Lovely Bones is one of the worst books I've ever read. well I suppose I read all of it in one go so it wasn't written badly, but the cloying sentimentality, shallow characterisation of good and evil, and also weirdly nasty torture porn at the beginning got to me and it genuinely shocked me that anyone could think this was anything more than trash. and of course now its Hallmark morality seems even more completely vapid

shoulders

Quote from: TrenterPercenter on December 01, 2021, 12:33:43 PMYes should be made clear it was just a case of mistaken identity and the accused was actually very gracious of Sebold's apology as presumably he recognised it wasn't her fault.

However, it perhaps might serve as bit of thought of what how highly emotive reductionist views about crimes might feed into the behaviour of the police.  Too many people are hot on this if you've got nothing hide then nothing to fear when obviously you could just look like someone that has something to hide.

Well said.

Gurke and Hare

On the other hand, the kind of person who says "If you've got nothing to hide you've nothing to fear." have probably read this story and gone away thinking "I reckon he did it anyway." Cunts gonna cunt.