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Graham Linehan Episode XVIII: Help Me Elon Muskenobi, You're My Only Hope

Started by Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse, May 03, 2022, 09:56:56 PM

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Mister Six

Quote from: GoblinAhFuckScary on May 28, 2022, 08:28:14 PM

heterophobia lol

Aren't quite a lot of gynecologists cis men? Is the idea of men working with vaginas professionally that bizarre and unheard of?


PlanktonSideburns


idunnosomename

Quote from: The Late Satoru Iwata on May 28, 2022, 10:06:41 PM(Edited because obviously Bragg was commenting on the Nazis obsession with subjugating Jews but it remains true that one of their early book-burning targets was research into transgender people and gender dysphoria. I should have just left it as it was but it felt like it was inviting derailing responses about Bragg's intention which would be a detriment to the thread)


he's right about biological essentialism being a fascist evil that's in common with TERFs judging people by their chromosomes though

chip

I read a tweet once saying "I can't think of one good reason why a man would need to be a gynaecologist", and have to say I have a hard time disagreeing.

Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse

Quote from: chip on May 28, 2022, 11:58:05 PMI read a tweet once saying "I can't think of one good reason why a man would need to be a gynaecologist", and have to say I have a hard time disagreeing.
We-ell one good reason (aside from the money) is that sometimes if a particular job is associated strongly with women, it's perceived to be less important and therefore lower paid. More male gynaecologists means more male doctors specialising in female reproductive health, which raises the profile of female reproductive health as a field.

Plus, that male gynaecologist could be gay for all anyone knows. Yeah. Just assuming he went to medical school and chose to be a gynaecologist to look at fannies all day. Homophobic. (read this whole bit in a Stewart Lee voice)

The Bumlord

I like fannies as a rule but I wouldn't want a lifetime of staring up them, well paid or not.

shoulders

Quote from: chip on May 28, 2022, 11:58:05 PMI read a tweet once saying "I can't think of one good reason why a man would need to be a gynaecologist", and have to say I have a hard time disagreeing.

F r u on abt mate

Dr Rock

I once had to have my willy inspected by a female nurse/doctor, that was her job, willy inspector. Did she go into that field just to look at knobs? Who knows. I'm just happy it was free on the underfunded NHS.

greencalx

Because of course all medical specialisms are chosen according to the practitioner's personal fetishes.

Zetetic

Quote from: Poirots BigGarlickyCorpse on May 29, 2022, 03:12:56 AMWe-ell one good reason (aside from the money) is that sometimes if a particular job is associated strongly with women, it's perceived to be less important and therefore lower paid. More male gynaecologists means more male doctors specialising in female reproductive health, which raises the profile of female reproductive health as a field.
Think this is actually bollocks in the UK, as applied to Obstetrics & Gynaecology as a medical specialty. Men were the majority of doctors registered in Obs & Gynae until 2016 for one thing. Now the split (and trends towards an increasing majority of women) is pretty similar to GPs.

(Not that there aren't plenty of other examples of gender-linked prestige issues in female reproductive health and otherwise.)

Zetetic

Quote from: greencalx on May 29, 2022, 08:24:22 AMBecause of course all medical specialisms are chosen according to the practitioner's personal fetishes.
Either that, or you take what you can get - which weakly suggests that from a competency point-of-view, you might be better off with a fetishist.

mippy

Every gynae I've seen was male.

My transvaginal ultrasounds were done by men.

My coil was fitted and removed by men.

They just like the vag innit

Regarding Marina's comment, isn't that exactly what Billy is saying? and regarding Helen, his point is GCs have been going on about differentiating by biology for years.


JamesTC



He has this amazing style of remembering vague things he might have seen said and taking them as fact. Like a transphobic Peter Kay.


racecar bed indy 500

Quote from: Better Midlands on May 29, 2022, 09:28:05 AMRegarding Marina's comment, isn't that exactly what Billy is saying? and regarding Helen, his point is GCs have been going on about differentiating by biology for years.



Yes that's Billy's exact point but GCs are obscenely obtuse. Its like any other far righter in that it is purposely so. Like that quote, I believe it was Sartre but I could be remembering incorrectly, about the anti-semite knowing their word games are meaningless and the purpose is to offend and enrage people.

George Oscar Bluth II

Quote from: greencalx on May 29, 2022, 08:24:22 AMBecause of course all medical specialisms are chosen according to the practitioner's personal fetishes.

I do find this line of argument from that lot quite...revealing. They're all sex mad.

Alberon

Jon Ronson has briefly mentioned bananabrain in an interview about culture wars in the The Irish Times.

QuoteThat story centres on a TV evangelist. Another one is about a a film-maker. There's one about an actor, another that starts off with a talk radio host. One happens at a music festival and there's another one about an online comedian. So, when we talk about the 'culture' wars, is that because everything that's fought out now in the public sphere has blurred into or is indistinguishable from entertainment?

"I never noticed that connection between the different protagonists of the show until you just said it and you're absolutely right. Yeah, there's a dysfunctional relationship between these different power bodies. When it comes to social media and the mainstream media, it was so interesting, when Twitter started, your namesake, Graham Linehan, was the person who got me into Twitter. He said – this was 2008 – 'You've got to join Twitter, it's the place where no one fights'."

That's Graham 'banned by Twitter' Linehan.

"Yes. But back in 2008, we couldn't have imagined what would happen. I think the mainstream media first thought, 'Oh, we'll just ignore it and it will go away'. And then it didn't go away, so then the mainstream thought, 'We'll control it. We'll do these articles on who are the 10 best tweeters in the media.' That was the snake coming into the Garden of Eden, because suddenly it became performative. And then, when when social media completely outsmarted and beat the mainstream media, the mainstream became like the nerdy kid in the school playground, sucking up to the school bully. As journalists we're supposed to be fearless, but when we saw people getting torn apart on social media, we shut up. We didn't say anything, because we were scared. Which is the opposite of the bravery journalists are supposed to display."

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/jon-ronson-on-the-culture-wars-right-now-the-left-are-doing-worse-than-the-right-1.4886052

Apropos of nothing here's a picture Pink News ran alongside a story of Linehan's recent Father Ted Musical comments.


somersetchris

Quote from: racecar bed indy 500 on May 29, 2022, 10:40:28 AMYes that's Billy's exact point but GCs are obscenely obtuse. Its like any other far righter in that it is purposely so. Like that quote, I believe it was Sartre but I could be remembering incorrectly, about the anti-semite knowing their word games are meaningless and the purpose is to offend and enrage people.

Staniland does this all the time. She's either deliberately misrepresenting what people are saying, or she's just thick.


Quote from: somersetchris on May 29, 2022, 11:32:50 AMStaniland does this all the time. She's either deliberately misrepresenting what people are saying, or she's just thick.

Can't it be both? I think it might be both



"YES, I KNOW WHAT A WOMANS ARE"

retsuza

lol the size of his pupils in that screenshot. Little bit of MDMA before your GBNews appearance, take the edge off.

canadagoose

Quote from: racecar bed indy 500 on May 29, 2022, 10:40:28 AMYes that's Billy's exact point but GCs are obscenely obtuse. Its like any other far righter in that it is purposely so. Like that quote, I believe it was Sartre but I could be remembering incorrectly, about the anti-semite knowing their word games are meaningless and the purpose is to offend and enrage people.

I'll quote it again because it's a great quote, both on the original subject of antisemitism but also on other far-right targets:

Quote from: Jean-Paul SartreNever believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Katherine Deves who BC was especially fond of (3 videos and many SGB posts) is getting roasted in the Australian press.



GoblinAhFuckScary


pigamus

QuoteIf you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent,

If only

Ayasakura

Quote from: Better Midlands on May 29, 2022, 12:55:44 PMKatherine Deves who BC was especially fond of (3 videos and many SGB posts) is getting roasted in the Australian press.



Why did he appeal to UK feminists to take up her cause when they can't fucking well vote in Australia? Stupid fucking cunt.

Dog Botherer

Quote from: Ayasakura on May 29, 2022, 04:09:46 PMWhy did he appeal to UK feminists to take up her cause when they can't fucking well vote in Australia? Stupid fucking cunt.

answered your own question there