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Started by bgmnts, May 17, 2022, 12:03:04 PM
QuoteYes, at that time, everyone who died, stayed dead. Jean Grey was maybe the first to return from the dead, and since then being dead has been a minor inconvenience and nobody believes if a character dies they are gone forever.
QuoteI get the feeling Stan Lee takes credit for a lot of things to be quite honest.
QuoteThat last phrase of your sentence really grabbed us... those last half dozen words contain a magnificent sentiment which no right thinking soul would ever dispute
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on May 19, 2022, 08:21:45 PMIf I remember correctly he wasn't as well off as you might think. Stan Lee himself was kinda fucked over by Marvel towards the end, I think.
Quote from: Dayraven on May 19, 2022, 04:18:11 PMI'd say it's been a more gradual process than that. Stories ending with villains apparently dying followed by an explanation of how they survived in their next appearance was common long before Jean Grey's return. It just gets extended to heroes and treated more and more casually over time.There's an example of a hero coming back later from an apparent death in these first 66 issues, in fact.
Quote from: bgmnts on May 21, 2022, 11:59:08 PMOne complaint over Kirby not being the full artist anymore, he is now just "designing" or doing the "layouts". Comic artists tell me what this means, is this like a description of how the scene should look for the penciller to draw or rough sketches or what? The guy isnt happy though he wants Kirby.
Quote from: Ron Maels Moustache on May 22, 2022, 12:53:03 AMYeah, layouts are the roughs most artists create when they're trying to figure out where everything should be in a panel, before they start drawing it for real. So this is basically an indication that Kirby's winding down his work on the title and he'll be gone from it entirely in a couple of issues time, and Stan soon will be too (although he gets a "plotted by" credit for a while).
QuoteIt's nice and clean and not a huge difference from Kirby proper.
Quote from: bgmnts on May 24, 2022, 09:34:07 PMEveryone loved the Juggers issue fair play and a lot of people liking the new artists Alex Toth and 'Jay Gavin' (nom de plume of a Werner Roth). I myself like the art, despite not really having an eye for comic book art beyond 'if it's incredibly stylised and shit i'll probably hate it'. It's nice and clean and not a huge difference from Kirby proper. Iceman looks much better now and has sharper outlines which looks good in his ice form.
Quote from: bgmnts on May 25, 2022, 10:21:57 PMI will say the cover is amazing! The four x-men and xavier lying on the floor with a shadow coming out of the door frame, all red colouring with the black contrast. Definitely gripped me with that. So fair play artist. We've also gotten the first full page panel I think, of Angel flying. I quite like the art overall it's good.
Quote from: Magnum Valentino on May 25, 2022, 10:54:24 PMKirby. Worth sharing, this one.Can't believe you revealed the incredible ending to a living soul though.I've just read that apparently they 'fixed' the McCoy gaff in later printings. Still can't compare with Spider-Man busting in on Dr Octopus and the daft cunt exclaiming SUPERMAN in one of the earlier issues of ASM.
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