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Alcoholism

Started by Gwen Taylor on ITV, October 24, 2017, 09:32:17 PM

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biggytitbo

Amazing how seldom mentioned this is in documentaries and such on the various wars isnt it?

gilbertharding

It does explain Noel Coward's voice, accent... whole way of speaking in In Which We Serve though. Speeding his tits off.

MikeShaft

1920s dance music is a prime symptom of a whole load of people ripped to the tits on amphetamines. All the flappers with their "diet pills" and all that energy to burn off. Listen to the Pasadena Roof Orchestra and pick out how it has almost exactly the same formula as house - with builds, breaks and drops.

Endicott


Fry

#124
Is it an act of alcoholism to get pissed at work one time just to spite your boss? I'm being kept in for three extra hours today but I'll have very little to do, so I am going to neck a few beers and sneak in another to have at my desk as a "fuck you."

ASFTSN

Quote from: Fry on October 27, 2017, 10:12:08 AM
Is it an act of alcoholism to get pissed at work one time just to spite your boss? I'm being kept in for three extra hours today but I'll have very little to do, so I am going to nick a few beers and sneak in another to have at my desk as a "fuck you."

I've tried this a couple of times at old jobs.  The pissed-ness wore off very quickly and everything around me looked and felt incredibly dreary.  The few work tasks I had took an age and were aggravating.  I think alcohol is best associated with good times if at all possible, not humdrum routine.

Enjoy!

Icehaven

Quote from: Fry on October 27, 2017, 10:12:08 AM
Is it an act of alcoholism to get pissed at work one time just to spite your boss? I'm being kept in for three extra hours today but I'll have very little to do, so I am going to nick a few beers and sneak in another to have at my desk as a "fuck you."

No, do it. I used to regularly go to work on Saturdays still off my face from being out drinking until 3 or 4 am, sometimes even still wearing the same clothes. And screaming like my passengers.

Norton Canes

I drink most nights, but usually only a bottle of real ale or Weißbier, it's a little and often thing for me. More often than not I'll have it right before bedtime which isn't a big help for my sleep hygiene. On the nights I don't have anything I do get cravings and I do get a bit agitated if there are no beers in the house. Also if I do have more than one bottle I'll frequently only put one in the recycling and stash the other away in the bin covered up by the rest of the rubbish, basically hiding evidence of drinking. So a few symptoms of addiction there, I guess. Still, I'm sure it's definitely the case that I'm drinking primarily for the taste of the beer rather than just to get drunk. Although the other night I had a bottle of some 8.5% thing and lay in bed afterwards with that Ha, I'm drunk, it's great, and I don't care about anything kind of feeling washing over me. Oh and last night I got so choked up at Tegan's leaving scene in Resurrection of the Daleks that I had to open another bottle to drown my sorrows.

Squink

Quote from: Shay Chaise on October 26, 2017, 11:17:16 PM
Last night I didn't sleep til half one. I got up at seven and I'm still wide awake now. I normally fall asleep around half nine after my customary two drinks. I actually feel quite a lot more energetic and less irritable, though. Maybe I should have done something more than just play computer games all day, maybe that's it. Either way, no booze and no panic, just a bit of restlessness.

I went through a period like this after I drastically cut down on booze consumption. Tried cutting out caffeine and the sleep got better instantly. I miss coffee more than I miss the alcohol, and getting off caffeine was mind bendingly hard (but ultimately worth it to get the sleep back). The whole ritual is what I miss most--choosing the beans, the smell, the grinding, trying to get an ultra smooth cup, testing out new devices, etc. Welp.

Shay Chaise

Funnily enough, the last couple of weeks I actually have cut right down on caffeine, maybe one cup of tea in the morning, and I've been sleeping better than I have in months and months, since the last time I cut out caffeine, basically. I've had seven hours uninterrupted sleep more nights than not, which is fucking mental for me. I normally sleep at half nine, wake up at two and drift for a few hours, then get another hour or so and get up. It's been insane to have so much sleep and I strongly suspect that a couple of extra cups of tea, especially in the evening, have contributed to my alertness over the last couple of days. In any case, I feel fucking great for no booze and less caffeine. Such a boring thing to talk about but I genuinely feel different. I'll fuck off the evening teas as well, I reckon.

Shay Chaise

I turned down a piss up tonight because of this stubborn decision to cut out the booze. I have to say I'm slightly bored. My missus is also out for a few drinks and she doesn't even drink really. The fact that I have contemplated walking twenty minutes to the pub just to have a pint on my own probably suggests I could do with breaking this habit. I'm watching football and it doesn't half seem boring without a beer and the prospect of several more ahead in the fridge. Hmm. I do feel quite chilled though, whereas I usually feel a bit edgy of an evening. Hmm.

Shoulders?-Stomach!

Quote from: Shay Chaise on October 27, 2017, 08:57:28 PM
I turned down a piss up tonight because of this stubborn decision to cut out the booze. I have to say I'm slightly bored. My missus is also out for a few drinks and she doesn't even drink really. The fact that I have contemplated walking twenty minutes to the pub just to have a pint on my own probably suggests I could do with breaking this habit. I'm watching football and it doesn't half seem boring without a beer and the prospect of several more ahead in the fridge. Hmm. I do feel quite chilled though, whereas I usually feel a bit edgy of an evening. Hmm.

Cane Bavaria 0,0%


Shay Chaise

0,0 24/7. Cheers, I'm on it at Tesco online.

I went through a phase of drinking lychee beer in China. It was about 1.5% but I'd drink a crate of 24 in two days easily, I'd drink them any time of day or night, just an unbelievably refreshing and delicious drink. I stopped because they stopped making it which was handy or I'd have no teeth and a fat heart.

steve98

Asssuming "lychee" is Chinese for "leech" - Yuck!

Leech beer sucks.

MoonDust

Is it alcoholism if you got drunk with friends and the next day you feel dread and guilt that you said/did something embarrassing you can't remember but you cannot tell if you're feeling this guilt because you actually did say/do something embarrassing or because you just think you did because you're an anxious wreck on the verge of a mental breakdown at the moment and therefore your anxious over-thinking brain's logic is "you got drunk, you must have embarrassed yourself somehow" and you know you could put your mind to rest by just messaging your mates if you did embarrass yourself last night but will be worried that that would just make you look weird if they say "err... no... you were fine, mate."?

Gwen Taylor on ITV

No, that's called the Fear.  We sometimes do things to excess but I think the problem is if you are unable to prevent yourself getting to an excessively drunk state even if you are determined not to.

Gwen Taylor on ITV

And if anything, that might be revealing about any social anxieties you might have rather than alcoholism per se.

MoonDust

Yeah. I mean I remember most of last night, and I very rarely get drunk. If I go to the pub the max I usually drink is 2 - 3 pints, but on the rare occasion I do drink more I always get this fear. It's for this reason I stopped drinking for 2 years a few years ago.

MoonDust

Fear gone. According to a friend I was "just very MoonDust. MoonDust squared. It was funny."

Shay Chaise

My missus didn't reply to my offer of a lift, so I eventually conked out due to tiredness while waiting, she woke me up at 2am throwing up with the bathroom door open, then got in bed and left all the lights on, then up again spewing, ended up trying to sleep on the toilet floor so I had to get up and get her back into bed,whereby she threw up. I was so sleep disturbed and annoyed and mostly concerned that I couldn't sleep til around 4, then her deafening phone alarm woke me up at 6, she slept through it so I had to get up and turn it off. I haven't shown any particular anger, just said these things happen but I'm going to get ruined tonight, starting now, and I'm going to take it all out on her, emotionally and psychologically.

Just kidding. Another evening of no drinking for me. Keepin it real. Early night. We've all been there.

Dr Rock

I really can't be arsed with booze lately. Don't know what it is, had my periods of drinking every day in the past. Just don't fancy it. In the last month I think I've had one bottle of beer and shared a bottle of wine or two with Spanish Lady Friend and that's it.

Dr Syntax Head

I recently tried going through the proper channels of getting off booze. A local support group, uncomfortable sessions with my GP. Didn't work. I was drinking so much that I was advised to keep drinking but gradually lower my intake because if I just stopped I would have gone all Keith Moon and sent my body into shock. So I did, kept drinking but Lower alcohol booze and slightly less often. But then I felt a lot better and started drinking more. Back at square one. I love alcohol, my brain is dead when I'm sober but after a few wines all the synapses come alive. How am I going to give that up? Fucking disease this is. I've tried but I feel resigned to the fact that I will drink every day until I die. Luckily I have the health to sustain. My blood results came back ok but for how long?

the science eel

Quote from: Dr Syntax Head on October 28, 2017, 05:55:43 PM
I recently tried going through the proper channels of getting off booze. A local support group, uncomfortable sessions with my GP. Didn't work. I was drinking so much that I was advised to keep drinking but gradually lower my intake because if I just stopped I would have gone all Keith Moon and sent my body into shock. So I did, kept drinking but Lower alcohol booze and slightly less often. But then I felt a lot better and started drinking more. Back at square one. I love alcohol, my brain is dead when I'm sober but after a few wines all the synapses come alive. How am I going to give that up? Fucking disease this is. I've tried but I feel resigned to the fact that I will drink every day until I die. Luckily I have the health to sustain. My blood results came back ok but for how long?

How old are you?

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: icehaven on October 27, 2017, 10:19:01 AM
No, do it. I used to regularly go to work on Saturdays still off my face from being out drinking until 3 or 4 am, sometimes even still wearing the same clothes. And screaming like my passengers.

I remember being at a house party that was winding down once at around 5am and had work in the bookies in a few hours and reasoned that if I fell asleep I wouldn't wake up so just ended up getting a coffee and watching quincy.

On my penultimate shift I finished work at 9. Met mates in a pub then went to a club, then a casino (open until 6 instead of 2) then my mate convinced me to go to The Portals (manky pub that opens at 7am, a heady mix of alkies waiting for the shop to open, lads off nightshift and people still off their nuts on drugs). I had 2 black coffees and a mc muffin and staggered in to my 10:30 shift.

By rights I should've been sent home but the manager's wife was pregnant and overdue so his mind was elsewhere. My till ended up 50 quid short.


Comemylady

Och nah man, I love Fugazi and that but they didn't influence my drinking at all :)

Repeater

Quote from: MoonDust on October 28, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
Is it alcoholism if you got drunk with friends and the next day you feel dread and guilt that you said/did something embarrassing you can't remember but you cannot tell if you're feeling this guilt because you actually did say/do something embarrassing or because you just think you did because you're an anxious wreck on the verge of a mental breakdown at the moment and therefore your anxious over-thinking brain's logic is "you got drunk, you must have embarrassed yourself somehow" and you know you could put your mind to rest by just messaging your mates if you did embarrass yourself last night but will be worried that that would just make you look weird if they say "err... no... you were fine, mate."?

This was how too many of my weekends ended and yep, it's alcaholism. Cut it out.

Repeater

Quote from: Comemylady on October 29, 2017, 03:35:44 AM
Och nah man, I love Fugazi and that but they didn't influence my drinking at all :)

Twice

ASFTSN

Quote from: Repeater on October 30, 2017, 09:01:57 AM
This was how too many of my weekends ended and yep, it's alcaholism. Cut it out.

No, that's not alcoholism necessarily.  It's certainly being being pissed.

Sebastian Cobb

Quote from: MoonDust on October 28, 2017, 03:02:39 PM
Is it alcoholism if you got drunk with friends and the next day you feel dread and guilt that you said/did something embarrassing you can't remember but you cannot tell if you're feeling this guilt because you actually did say/do something embarrassing or because you just think you did because you're an anxious wreck on the verge of a mental breakdown at the moment and therefore your anxious over-thinking brain's logic is "you got drunk, you must have embarrassed yourself somehow" and you know you could put your mind to rest by just messaging your mates if you did embarrass yourself last night but will be worried that that would just make you look weird if they say "err... no... you were fine, mate."?

Metaphysical hangover.