Started by Barry Admin, May 30, 2023, 11:31:51 PM
Quote from: cakeinmilk on May 30, 2023, 11:43:36 PMI went through several phases with the song, first just enjoying it at face value, how on-the-nose it was, then concern it was a return the misogyny of early Burnham, then "oh, maybe it's about one woman who is finding a way to connect with her dead mother" before finally settling on it being a satire of the commodification of life.I enjoy it very much.
Quote from: cakeinmilk on May 30, 2023, 11:43:36 PM"oh, maybe it's about one woman who is finding a way to connect with her dead mother"
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 31, 2023, 03:31:18 AMHadn't yet put much thought into why the frame changes and then changes back again, but read an interesting post on YouTube about how it opens up - away from Instagram format - as she does.
Quote from: famethrowa on May 31, 2023, 04:00:54 AMand no punchline ending! Come on, genius.
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 31, 2023, 03:31:18 AMAnd another interesting point about how the subject is only a target for ridicule for the first half of the song, but becomes humanised by the reveal. And it strikes me there that this is perhaps the only way she really knows how to deal with that loss, or how to express it. Which is a more sympathetic analysis than I gave above, but also a comment on how we react to internet content, in a mostly superficial and judgemental way.
Quote from: Pimhole on May 31, 2023, 07:59:01 AMThere is a punchline which was cut out of the YouTube vid version posted above, a pretty crucial punchline really which frames the whole thing as punching up not down (although that's also made clear in the final verse imo).
Quote from: Oosp on May 31, 2023, 08:31:41 AMI mean, further to what I said above, the woman in question most likely lost both her parents by the age of 17. That's awful. When she gets engaged (towards the end of the song), you realise (if you catch the details) that a) neither of her parents will be there to walk her down the aisleb) she's probably been talking to her dead parents in this way through social media for the past decadec) Bo Burnham is a genius
QuoteAn open windowA novel, a couple holding handsAn avocadoA poem written in the sandFresh fallen snow on the groundA golden retriever in a flower crownIs this heaven?Or is it just aWhite womanA white woman's InstagramWhite womanA white woman's Instagram (Instagram)White woman (white woman)A white woman's InstagramWhite womanA white woman's InstagramLatte foam art, tiny pumpkinsFuzzy, comfy socksCoffee table made out of driftwoodA bobblehead of Ruth Bader GinsburgA needlepoint of a foxSome random quote from Lord of the RingsIncorrectly attributed to Martin Luther KingIs this heaven?Or am I looking at aWhite womanA white woman's InstagramWhite womanA white woman's Instagram (Instagram)White woman (white woman)A white woman's InstagramWhite womanA white woman's InstagramHer favorite photo of her momThe caption says, "I can't believe itIt's been a decade since you've been goneMama, I miss you, I miss sitting with you in the front yardStill figuring out how to keep living without yaIt's got a little better but it's still hardMama, I got a job I love and my own apartmentMama, I got a boyfriend and I'm crazy about himYour little girl didn't do too badMama, I love you, give a hug and kiss to dad"A goat cheese salad (goat cheese salad)A backlit hammock (backlit hammock)A simple glass of wineIncredibly derivative political street artA dreamcatcher bought from Urban OutfittersA vintage neon signThree little words, a couple of dovesAnd a ring on her finger from the person that she lovesIs this heaven?Or is it just aWhite womanA white woman's InstagramWhite woman (white woman)A white woman's Instagram (Instagram)White woman (white woman)A white woman's InstagramWhite womanA white woman's Instagram
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 31, 2023, 09:06:30 AMOh gosh I can't remember what it is, and my Netflix password shit the bed now. I really have to watch the whole special again. Had it on in the background a few weeks ago, I'm still stunned at what an incredible achievement it is.
Quote from: Barry Admin on May 31, 2023, 09:34:16 AMOh wow. Edit: so in other words, it's a more explicit way of prompting people to be introspective about how they engage online. There was no real reason for him to feel superior, he could just be jealous. They say ome of the worst thing about social media is how it gives this fake highlights reel of existence, which then causes many observers to feel depressed and bitter.
QuoteWell, that was a very cleverly crafted song about the all embracing culture of identity. He analysed it well, the posed photos, the "live, laugh, love" posters and media posts of their beautifully decorated rooms and curated lives. But....but....each young woman (unless she is completely narcissistic and toxic) is probably presenting a "hope for" future life with someone who she can love and live with for the rest of her life. Before all these apps which allowed young women to "perform" their life for followers it simply didn't exist. Similarly, the malign influence of the Tate fella on young men has a similar effect: successful job, fast cars, lots of women and sex. Some young men are sucked into the fantasy, which, as with the ditzy bitzy presented world of the young women portrayed in this video doesn't stand up to reality. All groups, whether white or black share the same social media pressures. I don't know how young people manage to communicate outside these pressures because when I was young it was simply different and so I cannot judge or make suggestions. However, the primeval imperative is to mate and to create a home, that is all I can say and nature has a way of seeing this happens to a very large extent. I hope the above doesn't come across as too "windbaggish". Xx
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