Young vs Rogan & Spotify

[SpiderChrist]

I love Neil Young. he's getting pissy about The Joe Rogan Experience and demanding Spotify drop it.


"You can have Rogan or Young, not both."

[Glebe]

Good on you, Neil! Rogan is a fucking knob.

[Goldentony]

I think this ends up with Neil Young hitting the irons and STEPPING INTO THE OCTAGON

[SteveDave]

I've never listened to a minute of Joe Rogan but I imagine it all to be like this (stolen from Twitter)

Joe Rogan: hamburgers are good but I am trying to eat less pork

Guest: hamburgers are made with beef

Joe Rogan: ham is from pork it says ham in hamburger

Guest: it is beef

Joe Rogan: that's not what I've heard Jamie look that up

Jamie: it beef

Guest: it beef

Joe: ok but can we really trust hamburger makers and butchers and grocery stores when the word ham is in hamburger and ham means pork

Joe Rogan Fans: this is why I like him he is good at thinking

I don't much care for Neil Young either though so this is like Alien vs Predator for me.

[Goldentony]

how can you not like Neil Young you inhuman bastard

[keir]

If I had Neil's ear I'd be saying "Thom Yorke is a great admirer of yours, why don't you suggest that he do it?" Then sit back and watch. "Thanks for taking your solo stuff off Thom, but what about Radiohead and your new band?" (If you don't know why it might play out that way, check out the twitter of Jonny Greenwood's wife, @katansharona )

[SteveDave]

how can you not like Neil Young you inhuman bastard

The same way I don't like the Fall- high output, low quality

[Ballad of Ballard Berkley]

The same way I don't like the Fall- high output, low quality

The key difference for me is that Neil Young released shitloads of great music in the '70s, then continued to release shitloads of largely mediocre music for the next forty years and counting. But at least he had that bright and shiny window.

The Fall did Totally Wired, and that's yer lot. I'm not trying to be contrary, The Fall aren't for me. Opionions etc.

Anyway. All power to Neil's admirable stance against absolute fuckwits.

[gilbertharding]

@katansharona

Holy shit. Well - vindicated in my 'never liked Radiohead' stance. Another point to Harding.

[idunnosomename]

Shame really because that fucking meathead is worth way more to Spotify than Neil Young. Always throwing his podcast at me where he looks like a grinning glans.

[sevendaughters]

HE JUST WANTS YOU TO BUY A PONO

[SteveDave]

Holy shit. Well - vindicated in my 'never liked Radiohead' stance. Another point to Harding.

Hoochie-mama! Lovely stuff. Never trust a posh band.

[gilbertharding]

Of course, the big problem I have now, is whether to bother learning the difference between Joe Rogan, Josh Rogin, Seth Rogen, Josh Groban, Josh Brolin, and Joss Whedon - or (as I suspect will be the case whatever happens) not.

[The Ombudsman]

Unfortunately I'd expect Spotify earn more from Rogan than Young, and possible also Thom York combined. It would need a few massive acts to do this to make them think surely?

That said, I welcome this move. He is a doofus but spouted nonsense about UFO's and JFK theories before so I could stomach it. Now he's thinking he's somehow qualified to parse detailed medical trials and provide wisdom thereof. I did enjoy some of his early ones, when he had Ronson, Theroux and that ilk of guest. Now it's all MMA or quacks.

[peanutbutter]

Seems like a bit of a shame that Young wouldn't just go on the podcast tbh. Rogan's a gullible idiot but he tends to just agree with the last person he was talking to. Feel like this just ups Rogan's rep even more.

[Captain Z]

Of course, the big problem I have now, is whether to bother learning the difference between Joe Rogan, Josh Rogin, Seth Rogen, Josh Groban, Josh Brolin, and Joss Whedon - or (as I suspect will be the case whatever happens) not.

Don't forget Logan Paul, Paul Hogan and Logan of Saarkad.

I have the same problem in the Glinner threads with Andrew Doyle, Andrew Lawrence, Lawrence Fox, Andrew Neil, Neil Oliver and so on. Why do they all have the same name.

[SpiderChrist]

Spotify are now "in the process" of removing Young's music.

[Darles Chickens]

How long does it take? Can't they just drag the Neil Young folder into the Recycle Bin?

[Butchers Blind]

Imagine choosing Rogan over Neil Young. Good choice, Spotify.

[Bernice]

The (vaccine) needle and the damage done.

[madhair60]

Well I've been a Spotify user for about ten years but I suppose that's finished. Anyone recommend an alternative service?

[SteveDave]

Well I've been a Spotify user for about ten years but I suppose that's finished. Anyone recommend an alternative service?

SoulSeek. Honest theft.

[Petey Pate]

Bandcamp, although the app isn't as convenient.

[chveik]

onlyfans

[imitationleather]

Just give up listening to music. It's all shite.

[The Mollusk]

Well I've been a Spotify user for about ten years but I suppose that's finished. Anyone recommend an alternative service?

SoulSeek. Honest theft.

Yep, I recommended this in the Rogan thread in CC. It's obviously a hassle to build a collection up from scratch, but my overall goal once I've got some spare cash is to get a big portable hard drive and an Nvidia Shield which acts as its own independent server (meaning your computer doesn't have t be constantly switched on in order to access your media remotely), hook it up to my Plex account, and then access all my music from wherever I want with the PlexAmp mobile app for £4 a month.

[TheMonk]

Apple Music is fine, or YouTube music. A YouTube premium subscription gets you this with the added bonus of no adds on YouTube.

[chutnut]

my overall goal once I've got some spare cash is to get a big portable hard drive and an Nvidia Shield which acts as its own independent server (meaning your computer doesn't have t be constantly switched on in order to access your media remotely), hook it up to my Plex account, and then access all my music from wherever I want with the PlexAmp mobile app for £4 a month.

I've been doing this for a few years and it was a definite gamechanger (but also causes me a lot of grief every now and again), if you're just using it for music I'm not sure you'll even need to pay for the app. It might have changed by now but it used to only restrict watching films/series with the basic account.

I'm not sure I understand the logic of Soulseek being some kind of moral alternative to Spotify though

[The Mollusk]

I've been doing this for a few years and it was a definite gamechanger (but also causes me a lot of grief every now and again), if you're just using it for music I'm not sure you'll even need to pay for the app. It might have changed by now but it used to only restrict watching films/series with the basic account.

I'm not sure I understand the logic of Soulseek being some kind of moral alternative to Spotify though

Yeah the PlexAmp mobile app is part of the premium Plex service now (£4 a month as mentioned). But using Plex on your smart TV for any media is still totally free. I really like the interface and I'm told that it's also fantastic on PlexAmp. Some details given by a user here.

I definitely wasn't arguing its case as a moral alternative, btw. I still buy CDs from Bandcamp whenever I can afford to as that seems like the best way to directly support new or independent artists and labels (and I can't wait for gigs to become more of a stable and regular thing again so I can grab stuff from the merch stands and stick money right in the hands of my favourite artists), although in all honesty the vast majority of my physical music purchases are from second hand record shops.

[Kankurette]

Spotify's gone a bit weird. A few tracks on my playlists are greyed out, apparently it's a licensing thing?