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A serial lawbreaking liar - Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson scandal thread 2

Started by Fambo Number Mive, April 19, 2022, 01:46:53 PM

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AsparagusTrevor

I don't wanna be all doom and gloom but don't underestimate the amount of people who think the treacherous cabinet is unfairly betraying "are brave Boris", the lone hero trying to single-handedly save our country from the woke snowflake commie lefties.

I foolishly fell into a Twitter rabbit hole this morning and the amount of comments from people with the above mindset is staggering. Add to this the tabloid mandate of doing whatever they can to keep the Tories in power and I could genuinely see a Boris-led party survive another general election.


Alberon


Fambo Number Mive

Wonder how Spitting Image will satirize this week in their new stage show.

Buelligan

Quote from: Cold Meat Platter on July 07, 2022, 12:01:12 AMFucking hell this guy resigned



No it's his real head!

Obviously a very big Brendan O'Neill fan.



Frightening really.


DrGreggles

Quote from: AsparagusTrevor on July 07, 2022, 08:54:14 AMI don't wanna be all doom and gloom but don't underestimate the amount of people who think the treacherous cabinet is unfairly betraying "are brave Boris", the lone hero trying to single-handedly save our country from the woke snowflake commie lefties.

I foolishly fell into a Twitter rabbit hole this morning and the amount of comments from people with the above mindset is staggering. Add to this the tabloid mandate of doing whatever they can to keep the Tories in power and I could genuinely see a Boris-led party survive another general election.

That doesn't reflect the Twitters I've seen.
90%+ are laying into him, with suspicious bot-like responses ("big calls right", "got brexit done", etc) being most of the support.

Depends on the account obviously.

poo


Fambo Number Mive

I think quite a few of the #backboris twitter accounts are bots. I might be wrong though.

TrenterPercenter

Quote from: AsparagusTrevor on July 07, 2022, 08:54:14 AMI foolishly fell into a Twitter rabbit hole this morning and the amount of comments from people with the above mindset is staggering. Add to this the tabloid mandate of doing whatever they can to keep the Tories in power and I could genuinely see a Boris-led party survive another general election.

The problem with these echo chambers (same on the left) is they create the impression of plurality.  First off most people just aren't interested and working on "the feels".   Currently these are the people the Tory party is worried about as the feeling is one of chaos.  Then there are the people who vote on self interest "x seems like they will be in my interests", again Johnson is proving complete instability here and it is easy to work out this will translate to their mini fortunes being at risk.  Then you have the politico,  these people follow politics usually from an politically ideological convention who generally act in accordance to that convention i.e. the Tory party, of which Johnson is destroying.  Finally there is the 20% or so that are purely driven by absolutist ideologies usually tied to issues around personal experience (racists, bigots and fanatics) - this is his current crop, social media magnifies this group.

Edit: yes and bots - people shouldn't underestimate the efforts made to game social media there are teams of people employed to do this.


Academic as he will resign though.

Alberon

I think we're at the defining hour or two of this whole debacle. According to the BBC there has been silence from Number 10 this morning. With even the new appointees quitting or saying Johnson must go its clear government cannot stumble on.

So there will either be a resignation speech or Johnson will call a general election this morning.

bakabaka

It's hard to read these resignation letters without seeing them as virtue signalling, gaslighting self-promotion (oh, the irony).

"I will continue to champion opportunity for our brilliantly talented young people..."
"Above all I am here to serve the British public..."

And every one listing their greatest achievements,none of which have been completed.


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Buelligan

Quote from: DrGreggles on July 07, 2022, 09:00:49 AMThat doesn't reflect the Twitters I've seen.
90%+ are laying into him, with suspicious bot-like responses ("big calls right", "got brexit done", etc) being most of the support.

Depends on the account obviously.

Yep.  The big calls right thing is everywhere as was 14M vote mandate yesterday.  Both obvious lies and it is odd that so many would all come up with the same marvelous fabrications at the same moment.  Much like the torrent of resignations. 

I think it was Jung who, on the evidence of a beetle, suggested evidence of synchronicity, I'm feeling maybe there is something more mundane at work.


Joris Bohnson

lipsink


bakabaka

Johnson resigns!

Caroline Johnson, Tory party vice chair.

Only been in the job a day.

Alberon

Sam Coates from Sky says parts of Number 10 are preparing a resignation statement, but no one is sure Johnson will read it.

Meanwhile the Defence Secretary is staying in his post while clearly not supporting the PM.

QuoteA number of us have an obligation to keep this country safe,no matter who is PM. The Party has a mechanism to change leaders and that is the mechanism which I advise colleagues to use. In the meantime,the public would not forgive us if we left these Offices of State empty.



Fambo Number Mive

I thought this was a good article on Johnson's debacle: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/07/anger-boris-johnson-prime-minister-democracy

Quote...Consider who might replace him. Sunak and Sajid Javid have together spent 32 years working in high finance. Liz Truss is Nigel Farage without the pint glass. Matt Hancock is Matt Hancock. That is today's Tory party: a vacant-eyed coalition of bankers, bounders and Brexiteers. They have no ideas, save the most parodic form of Thatcherism. Hand huge home loans to people on housing benefit who can barely afford to eat. Allow mortgages to be passed down fromparent to child, like some 21st-century remake of debt serfdom. When all else fails, attack the BBC for not showing more flags.

Consider, too, the media enablers of Johnson. The BBC's Have I Got News For You, which turned a hard-right politician into a TV star. The newspapers that laughed off all his lies and petty corruption until it was clear their readers weren't going to stomach it any more. In its main editorial on Wednesday, the Times demanded Johnson step down: "No one in Britain or abroad can any longer trust a word this government says." In December 2019, the same paper endorsed him as prime minister to keep "close links with European partners and pave the way for a return to pragmatic, responsible government".

This wasn't naivety. The Times and most of Fleet Street signed up as cheerleaders for the most flawed political leader in living memory purely to stave off Jeremy Corbyn. Labour, the same editorial warned, would take the country down "a path of radical socialism that would lead to economic chaos" and "turn the clock back 40 years". It was the crudest attempt to portray German-style social democracy as tantamount to collectivised farms and Siberian salt mines. It was intended to nullify democratic choice. The result is the law-breaking regime now in charge of the country, who see nothing wrong in handing out PPE contracts to mates, outsourcing functions to expensive consultants, and running a Covid-loan scheme subject to incredible fraud �– and with no serious ideas to stave off a looming recession.

Boris Johnson is the leader of this mess, and trailing behind him is an entire wrecking crew of shameless MPs, craven newspapers and sharp-eyed donors...

I have written it before but it bears repeating: these people are bad at government because they believe government is bad. For them, levelling up is a pretty slogan. Their real goal looks like self advancement. And when they finally leave, their only punishment is higher fees on the after-dinner circuit, a ludicrous book advance and their pick of City directorships.

The UK does not need a new manager: it is crying out for an entirely different form of management that hands power and wealth to those who have been deprived of it for decades. It deserves radically devolved government and an economic system that values the everyday needs of its people while actively shrinking the finance sector. And it absolutely must get shot of this wrecking crew in their pinstripe suits. The end of Boris Johnson calls for celebrations, to be followed by the real job of seeing off the rest of them.

QuoteBoris Johnson has agreed to resign, the BBC's Chris Mason reports. He says he wants a new Tory leader to be in place by the party conference. He wants to stay on as PM until then.

"Just trust that I won't do anything self-serving and reckless in the next three months."

idunnosomename

Jeremy Corbyn is just an activist!!! He can't govern!!! Therefore we endorse this gigantic fucking cunt


Alberon

Johnson apparently wants to stay on as PM until a new leader is elected, but I do wonder if that is just to break Theresa May's record of time in office.


idunnosomename

Has he really resigned though or is this just Number 10 staffers saying he will. Boris currently in the No 10 garage building a tank like B.A. Baracus


DrGreggles

If he carries on for 3 months who will fill the vacant posts until then?
Will they be appointed by committee?