missiom: inpossible: dead reckoning: part fucking one? oh christ. give over

[Campbell Soupe]

Ooh, whereabouts? I used to live in Chesterfield, and it probably wasn't filmed there because:

1. no cliffs
2. a bit shit

Lol, love to see The Cruiser tooling round Chesvegas.  No, this was a big quarry out at Stoney Middleton...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-58521116

[Shaky]

Prevailing wisdom says these films are getting better but the last one was almost unbearable. Having said that, the return of Kittridge is intriguing and it seems to be a major appearance rather than a cameo.

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Kittridge is one of the few memorable characters in the whole series. He's so prissy. I bet he carried hand sanitizer around with him long before the pandemic.

[Shaky]

What with his little chat with Hunt and the shots on a train, the new trailer did suggest this new one will be harking back to the first film a little bit. I'm sure that will all be purely cosmetic, though, and the rest of the runtime will be taken up with Cruise jumping into the sun and surviving or something.

[Cottonon]

I did like the nod to For Your Eyes Only with the yellow Fiat 500 (?) in place of the Citroen 2CV.

[checkoutgirl]

The jumping out the plane bit in the last one is shite. If you didn't know they did it for real you'd just assume it was done in a studio. Same with him flying a helicopter. All that effort for fuck all effect but it makes the Cruiser feel good so I guess it must be done

I'm sure doing his own stunts, or at least appearing to do some of them, is part of the PR machine now so he must feel obliged to do them at this stage. Maybe that's his drugs as he probably won't let so much as a paracetamol pass his lips. In interviews he looks disconcertingly sober and alert.

There's also the scientology element, he can't do films with adult themes, sex, excessive violence, cursing/bad language, torture porn, body horror etc. Nothing genuinely disturbing anyway. And he always has to be the good guy. So these films will be restrained by what will be acceptable to David Miscavige and a bus load of Sea Org losers given a private screening.

The most unscientology friendly performance by Cruiser that I can think of in years was in Tropic Thunder in 2008 and that was coincidentally his most excellent piece of work in ages. He just went mad in that role and it shows that he has the ability to put a great and funny performance in when not held within certain self made boundaries.

Most Tom Cruise films are sort of joyless these days, if a train going off a bridge isn't enough to bring you joy.

[Replies From View]

What cliffhanger does it end on, this film

[Operty1]

What with his little chat with Hunt and the shots on a train, the new trailer did suggest this new one will be harking back to the first film a little bit.

Maybe as this is the last Mission he has to do all of the other Missions again as some kind of boss run in order to win?

[Bad Ambassador]

What cliffhanger does it end on, this film

Tom Cruise has to decide whether or not the mission is possible.

Spoiler alert

It isn't.

[close]

[Replies From View]

Crikey that is absolutely tempting

[Claude the Racecar Driving Rockstar Super Sleuth]

Tom Cruise has to decide whether or not the mission is possible.

"Your mission, should you choose to accept it..."
"Hmmmm. No thanks."

[dissolute ocelot]

I'm sure doing his own stunts, or at least appearing to do some of them, is part of the PR machine now so he must feel obliged to do them at this stage. Maybe that's his drugs as he probably won't let so much as a paracetamol pass his lips. In interviews he looks disconcertingly sober and alert.

There's also the scientology element, he can't do films with adult themes, sex, excessive violence, cursing/bad language, torture porn, body horror etc.

Him doing his own stunts is definitely a selling point, but as others have mentioned it's not really necessary if you're a competent filmmaker. And I hate vertigo climbing stuff like on Burj Khalifa.

Since learning Elizabeth Moss is a scientologist, I've no idea what's allowed. All the cults. Was Cruise a scientologist in Magnolia, as that should have troubled the Xenu crew but they don't seem to care.

[colacentral]

Looks like they're intentionally referencing the first one a lot, so I'd say it's nailed on that the cliffhanger is all the side characters like Pegg and Ving Rhames getting killed like Emilio Estevez and that lot did in the original.

[checkoutgirl]

Since learning Elizabeth Moss is a scientologist, I've no idea what's allowed.

Comparing Cruise to any other member doesn't help. The celebrities are treated different to the punters and the Sea Org, as in they are treated much better. Cruise is not only a celebrity, he's the poster child of Scientology so whetever rules apply to him, or rules that he perceives apply to him will be different to pretty much everyone else.

Was Cruise a scientologist in Magnolia,

He's been a Scientologist since his first wife Mimi Rogers got him into it in the eighties. Related to the above, when Cruise was married to Nicole Kidman he was becoming less dedicated to Scientology, perhaps linked to Kidman's influence. A big "get Tom Cruise back" operation was initiated by the leader Miscavige. If Magnolia overlapped with this there's every chance Scientology didn't come into his decision to work with Wes Anderson, he's worked with Stanley Kubrick on the quite adult themed Eyes Wide Shut, with Nicole Kidman.

Also he's been the most powerful actor in Hollywood off and on for years, as well as the face and de facto vice president of Scientology. If he wanted to do a project that he fancied Miscavige isn't going to stop him. My guess is his rules for making films these days, as in suiting making Scientology look good, are entirely his own choice and would tend to be in line with how devout he is to Scientology at that time. This stuff definitely fluctuates. All these rules are self inflicted by Cruise, with perhaps some influence by Miscavige.

If you look at his output in the last 20 years or so, together with stories of him coralling celebs to preach Scientology behind closed doors, it's clear he's been very devout and an insane true believer in Scientology and all the bullshit about medication and psychology being a hoax that comes with it.

[notjosh]

"Your mission, should you choose to accept it..."
"Hmmmm. No thanks."

Hopefully he dies at the end of the last one, all tangled up in wires while dangling from the top of the Shard or something, with one of those rubber masks half-hanging off his face and Simon Pegg yelling in his earpiece "I couldnae do it Captain, I couldnae hack the Pentagon for ye!!", while an out-of-control helicopter careens towards him ready to slice him asunder, but not before he turns to the camera with his cheeky Tom Cruise grin and says "well, I guess that mission really was... impossible."

BRRRRRRRRRR.... DUN DUN DUNDUN

[Memorex MP3]

My memory of the franchise has basically been

1. sorta mad and doesn't totally work but a lot of fun at points with some very fun casting
2. seemed shite, never even watched it; I should probably rectify that
3. bit overhyped at the time as a return to form, but also has Philip Seymour Hoffman playing a baddie so it's good
4. the best one? better than it seemed like the series could be?
5. also pretty good, maybe a bit more refined than 4 but also a bit more stale
6. retread of 5, was fine but getting pretty tired now

Hoping that they've broken this one into two parts means each part will be like 85 minutes but I doubt it.

[Replies From View]

How will the sequel explain that all the characters have aged so much within one week

[dissolute ocelot]

Hopefully he dies at the end of the last one, all tangled up in wires while dangling from the top of the Shard or something, with one of those rubber masks half-hanging off his face and Simon Pegg yelling in his earpiece "I couldnae do it Captain, I couldnae hack the Pentagon for ye!!", while an out-of-control helicopter careens towards him ready to slice him asunder, but not before he turns to the camera with his cheeky Tom Cruise grin and says "well, I guess that mission really was... impossible."

BRRRRRRRRRR.... DUN DUN DUNDUN

I reckon there's a good chance they'll kill him off in the end, since it's the fashionable thing to do. Then they'll reboot it with another actor, it'll flop, and he'll return probably. Sadly, I think his demise will be more heroic than notjosh, he'll probably run into the desert carrying a nuclear bomb or something.

[Captain Z]

Is this the one where he dies during filming, or is that the next?

[Kelvin]

Been watching some clips of these films on youtube. Is there anyone with a better 'Action Film Run' than Cruise? It's like the one thing he unequivically does better than anyone.

[phantom_power]

Him doing his own stunts is definitely a selling point, but as others have mentioned it's not really necessary if you're a competent filmmaker.

I don't think that is true at all. There is nothing like seeing the actor's face during a stunt to give you a more visceral feel, and not seeing any CGI stuff helps as well. That's why something like John Wick works so well. Seeing Keanu performing all those fights is so much more exhilarating than having a long shot or camera angle that hides the stuntman's face.

I would also say that the MI films don't just rely on this to be good films. The plots are usually good as well, with some interesting twists and turns and moral quandaries thrown in for good measure. They aren't deep and meaningful. The characters don't learn and grow. They are action films. That isn't what they are for

[SweetPomPom]

Been watching some clips of these films on youtube. Is there anyone with a better 'Action Film Run' than Cruise? It's like the one thing he unequivically does better than anyone.

Robert Patrick?
Ran fast enough to overtake the motorbike he was supposed to be chasing too.

[dissolute ocelot]

I don't think that is true at all. There is nothing like seeing the actor's face during a stunt to give you a more visceral feel, and not seeing any CGI stuff helps as well. That's why something like John Wick works so well. Seeing Keanu performing all those fights is so much more exhilarating than having a long shot or camera angle that hides the stuntman's face.

Fight scenes are definitely better with someone who can fight rather than stuntpeople. But there are plenty of great action films, like Raiders of the Lost Ark or The Matrix, which didn't require anyone to climb the world's tallest building or hang off a helicopter (the Matrix had a star who could fight but not jump off buildings or dodge bullets or fly). Maybe the MI films do gain from knowing it really is Cruise up there, but it's a sort of meta-thrill that takes you out of the action and focuses you on Cruise as star not Cruise's character (not that Ethan Hunt is much of a character).

[colacentral]

What the MI films are really good at is the plan gone wrong set up, where the team explains a plan with a gadget to make it work, something goes wrong, and they have to figure out how to fix it on the fly. That's basically every scene. And I enjoy the continued commitment to using the fake face rug pull in every single film, and manage to make it surprising every time. In fact, if this film ends with most of the team dying in an homage to the opening of the first one, I expect the next one to open with the reveal that it was a bunch of bad guys wearing masks.

[Blinder Data]

I enjoyed this newly released 9 minute long video of lil Tommy Cruise preparing for and delivering an insane motorbike stunt: https://twitter.com/MissionFilm/status/1604838974933110787

I luv deez movies. I will definitely watch this in the cinema.

[Famous Mortimer]

the plots aren't incomprehensible you're just fuck-thick

madhair revealing the title of the movie review book he's working on if the games one goes well

[Blinder Data]

this is out TODAY

can't wait to see tommy boy do some wisecracking and simon pegg pull a face

[Minami Minegishi]

As someone who despises comic relief in films I assume Pegg is still being the irreverant side-kick shitting on any tension or actual drama?

I love the first De Palma Mission Impossible, but the need to put Eddie Murphy's Donkey into every fucking Hollywood film caves in my nut.

[Old Nehamkin]

These films always blur together into one indistinguishable blob to me and I never remember what actually happened or where the characters stand in relation to each other or anything like that but when I'm in the cinema watching them I certainly have a good time. Will be seeing this at the imax. I expect thrills.

[bgmnts]

I remember the first one being quite good and an actual spy/espionage action film with a good little twist, rather than just a vehicle for Mr. Cruise to do stunts and ride his motorbike.