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Started by confettiinmyhair, May 18, 2022, 02:33:52 PM
Quote from: pigamus on May 20, 2022, 08:22:05 AMReally? What did they fall out over?
Quote from: oggyraiding on May 19, 2022, 11:50:10 AMhttps://www.vice.com/en/article/neaxqq/how-gogglebox-is-madeLot of effort just to get mildly amusing soundbites.
Quote from: Ron Maels Moustache on May 20, 2022, 08:40:38 AMNot sure if there was any specific trigger, but AFAIK they weren't friends in real life, and it seems the relationship got more and more frosty the longer the show went on.
Quote from: Old Thrashbarg on May 20, 2022, 09:12:26 AMAlternatively, not much effort to get a massively successful TV show that has an indefinite lifespan.
Quote from: badaids on May 19, 2022, 10:13:20 PMHe was always criticising his production team on air, and Im sure he sacked on too. Or maybe I dreamt that last bit.
Quote from: Replies From View on May 20, 2022, 10:21:38 AMI like to think of them as Tom Baker and Lalla Ward, in every single aspect.
Quote from: bobloblaw on May 20, 2022, 01:04:29 PMnot to mention his reputation of 'doing a Barrowman' at every opportunity for the LOLs
Quote from: studpuppet on May 20, 2022, 02:00:31 PMThere's a bit at the beginning of Who On Earth Is Tom Baker?, where Tom is introduced to a woman at a party who says they've met before. When he asks her where, she replies, "We were married to each other."
Quote from: Bingo Fury on May 20, 2022, 03:47:23 PMI don't have the book any more, but the way I remember it is that Baker was in a pub in New Zealand when a young man approached him, and Baker assumed he wanted an autograph and asked who he wanted it made out to, only for the stranger to say, "I'm your son, Piers."
Quote from: pigamus on May 20, 2022, 08:00:15 PMSorry, what is all that bollocks? Apart from the fact that it's bollocks anyway, why would she say no when he asks if it's Doctor Who? He's a weird fucker.
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on May 18, 2022, 09:20:10 PMHis big idea was that the conflict shouldn't be between crew members, but the whole crew against X, whatever it might be that week. I thought it was rather a good idea, honestly, and led to less of the soap opera-y bollocks that gradually poisons pretty much every show.
QuoteI agree. But the writers didn't like writing for that setup
Quote from: Kankurette on May 18, 2022, 07:53:20 PMBuffy the Vampire Slayer/Angel. Charisma Carpenter being sacked for getting pregnant springs to mind, not to mention that Whedon basically killed her character off out of spite, and one of the characters in Angel got killed off because his actor had drug problems (and is now dead).
Quote from: Replies From View on May 21, 2022, 09:47:31 AMTough shit you comprehensive bellends!"We didn't particularly appreciate the setup of the main characters being miniaturised every week."DON'T WRITE FOR THE HONEY I SHRUNK THE KIDS TELEVISION SERIES THEN IT'S MINIMALLY STRAIGHTFORWARDJESUS FUCK IN A HOEGAARDEN
Quote from: JamesTC on May 18, 2022, 11:54:07 PMGene bought his own hype about the idealised future Star Trek supposedly portrayed but he broadly had good intentions with TNG when he wasn't taking way too much interest in the costume fittings.But TNG is a good shout. Rick Berman was apparently not a nice person, and you've got to wonder why two young women chose to leave the core cast and one only decided to return after many of the people had left behind the scenes. I think there must be more to the story there. Certainly far more than Chaos on the Bridge portrays.
Quote from: badaids on May 18, 2022, 10:52:32 PMI bet TFI Friday was absolutely horrible to work on; horrible people beaking it up and acting the cunt during peal ladism.
Quote from: willbo on May 21, 2022, 09:59:36 AMthere was a post on Something Awful in the 00s by someone who had been an extra/bit part on Buffy. They said that they had a closet full of cigarette boxes and the cast smoked constantly. And apparently they all complained about the writers/directors and were off set smoking as much as they could be.
QuoteA string of Buffy the Vampire Slayer stars have accused the hit TV show's creator Joss Whedon of "toxic", "cruel" and "very not appropriate" behaviour.Charisma Carpenter claimed Whedon had "abused his power" and "created hostile and toxic work environments".Co-stars Amber Benson and Michelle Trachtenberg then backed her up, while Sarah Michelle Gellar said she was "proud of them for speaking out".Whedon, who wrote and co-directed the supernatural series, has not responded.The show, which followed Gellar's teenage vampire hunter Buffy Summers, was a major success when it ran between 1997 and 2003.On Wednesday, Carpenter, who played Cordelia Chase, posted messages saying Whedon had "abused his power on numerous occasions" while working on Buffy and spin-off Angel.She claimed he had "a history of being casually cruel", such as with "ongoing" threats to fire her and calling her fat when she was pregnant, before "unceremoniously" firing her after she had given birth.They were among a number of "disturbing incidents" that she said had "triggered a chronic physical condition from which I still suffer".Benson, who played Tara Maclay, retweeted her co-star's statement, adding: "Buffy was a toxic environment and it starts at the top."Carpenter "is speaking truth and I support her 100%", she added. "There was a lot of damage done during that time and many of us are still processing it twenty-plus years later."Trachtenberg added her voice on Instagram, accusing Whedon of "not appropriate behaviour....very. Not. Appropriate."Trachtenberg was reposting a statement from Gellar, who distanced herself from Whedon and supported her former castmates, without adding allegations of her own."While I am proud to have my name associated with Buffy Summers, I don't want to be forever associated with the name Joss Whedon," she wrote."I am more focused on raising my family and surviving a pandemic currently, so I will not be making any further statements at this time. But I stand with all survivors of abuse and am proud of them for speaking out."The BBC has contacted Whedon for a response.He first created Buffy as a film starring Kristy Swanson in the title role in 1992. After making the TV series starring Gellar, the writer and director went on to work on TV shows like Firefly and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and films including The Avengers and Justice League.Carpenter said she made her comments after Justice League actor Ray Fisher, who has accused Whedon of "abusive, unprofessional and unacceptable" behaviour on that film, had his character Cyborg written out of the forthcoming Flash movie.WarnerMedia announced that decision last month after Fisher accused executive Walter Hamada of undermining the studio's investigation into his allegations.
Quote from: JamesTC on May 18, 2022, 11:54:07 PMAgree completely. Whilst they didn't stick to it dogmatically, the general ethos stuck around for most of Star Trek even as late as Enterprise and it served to split them apart from other TV.Gene bought his own hype about the idealised future Star Trek supposedly portrayed but he broadly had good intentions with TNG when he wasn't taking way too much interest in the costume fittings.But TNG is a good shout. Rick Berman was apparently not a nice person, and you've got to wonder why two young women chose to leave the core cast and one only decided to return after many of the people had left behind the scenes. I think there must be more to the story there. Certainly far more than Chaos on the Bridge portrays.
Quote from: ImmaculateClump on May 20, 2022, 07:52:45 PMHaha, yes, that happened as well.Here's the lalla bit - https://youtu.be/B3JgKxQV9OM?t=9455Last year I had to be at the British Film Academy in Piccadilly for some little function or other and in the crush at the bar I heard a woman's voice say:'Well, hello there, dear, dear, Tom.' This was said with that challenging inflection which means: 'Well, isn't this a surprise, and you'll never guess who I am.' I turned to face the inflection who was forty-something and very pleasant to look at apart from the way she held her head on one side as though one side of her head was heavier than the other. 'Oh, hello there,' I said, wondering who on earth it could be. 'How are you?' She looked at me steadily and said with a tiny but superior edge, 'You don't remember me, do you?' Trying to bluff it out, I said with terrific confidence: 'Of course I do, it was the National Theatre, wasn't it?' She shook her head triumphantly: 'I knew you'd forgotten. Oh, how could you, Tom?' Her confidence unnerved me a bit and I found myself guessing wildly. 'Play for Today?' She shook her head and smiled on. 'The Royal Shakespeare Company?' Surely that was it, everybody's worked at the RSC. She went on with the enigma and suddenly I knew the impulse to strangle someone. 'Doctor Who! Yes, it was Doctor Who, wasn't it?' Again she shook her head unhelpfully. I was now caught up in this little mystery and was curious to find out where I had known this head-onthe-one-side tease. Smiling in as friendly a way as I could I said: 'It was a play though, wasn't it?' She looked at me rather sadly, still shaking her head and said: 'No, we used to be married.' I spun round towards the bar to find my pale ale and when I turned back she was talking calmly to someone else.
Quote from: Attila on May 20, 2022, 11:32:52 PMI think he's talking about his first wife, not Lalla Ward.
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