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Curb Your Enthusiasm 12

Started by AzureSky, December 14, 2023, 08:23:01 PM

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Mobius

the "bearded lady conversation" was easily the worst part of the episode. just an unfunny bit/conversation that felt out of place. i get the joke was that that's the sort of silly thing larry thinks about whilst sitting in a serious court setting, but it was just a crap little story, and the back and forth improv between larry/jerry was lame.

Due to the show being improvised considerably I felt that during the plane scenes there was a knowingness that this is it. I don't know if it was the pressure to make the most of the moment. But it felt a little off, particularly the airplane mode scene. The behind the scenes clip then makes more sense of those scenes, with them being the final few takes and everyone already getting emotional.

Matthew Dawkins Jub Jub

I know the jail stuff was a heavy (and appreciated) Seinfeld reference, but I'm wondering if the reference to the juror being caught on restaurant security footage isn't a reference to the guy found innocent in that murder charge due to being caught on camera during the filming of an episode of Curb. Maybe I'm connecting too many dots.

Quote from: Matthew Dawkins Jub Jub on April 10, 2024, 12:11:44 PMI know the jail stuff was a heavy (and appreciated) Seinfeld reference, but I'm wondering if the reference to the juror being caught on restaurant security footage isn't a reference to the guy found innocent in that murder charge due to being caught on camera during the filming of an episode of Curb. Maybe I'm connecting too many dots.

That's a great shout, wouldn't surprise me at all if it was an oblique reference to that.

I found the initial airplane scene baffling, especially given no one turns their phone off on flights anymore - airplane mode must have been a thing for at least 10 years and even that is never enforced.


Josef K

Loved the finale but showing a lot of clips of earlier seasons did make the over the top theatrics of everyone's performances in later seasons seem a lot more jarring. S1-4 (at least) everyone generally acts like normal people.

You can't imagine pants tent Larry's having the same reaction as he does when wheelchair Suzie enters the courtroom.

Queen Peach

only up to episode 2 but suzi's fucking outfits

in general the writing and production of this show is dogshit. worth watching for Lar

Queen Peach

episode 3...this show is a fucking mess

Quote from: Queen Peach on April 18, 2024, 02:04:25 PMepisode 3...this show is a fucking mess

Are you going from episode 3 of the final season, or episode 3 of season 1? Because if it's the latter and you didn't like 'Porno Gil', I'd just call it day if I was you.

Queen Peach

I've watched every episode, from like day 1. I've been in on the ground on Curb. I'm talking about this series though. it's incredibly poor so far.

Quote from: Queen Peach on April 19, 2024, 12:20:42 AMI've watched every episode, from like day 1. I've been in on the ground on Curb. I'm talking about this series though. it's incredibly poor so far.

Fair enough. Don't think I can really disagree, a few good bits in the last series, but definitely the right time to end it. At least stick with it to see the finale!

Queen Peach

oh I will, and I'll about it too

Queen Peach

this show annoys me. people recognize sienna miller as a celebrity but not Vince Vaughan?!

TommyTurnips

Quote from: Queen Peach on April 24, 2024, 01:49:28 PMthis show annoys me. people recognize sienna miller as a celebrity but not Vince Vaughan?!

And Steve Buscemi!

It's probably been mentioned in the past 12 pages that I haven't read to avoid spoilers but Steve Buscemi popping up as a character and not playing himself was really weird.

Mr. Ssmsslth

I read a theory on Reddit, I think, that actors who aren't based in L.A. play fictional characters because it wouldn't make sense for the real people to be there. Don't know if this holds up, though, and it's still annoying, even if it does.

mr. logic

Have they fucked off the rewatch podcast then?

McChesney Duntz

They just finished going through the first season. Maybe taking a break before resuming.

Dr Funke

New episode of the podcast is out now

Kelvin

#347

He may have said it elsewhere, I'm not sure. But in this interview Seinfeld talks about coming up with the "This is how we should have ended it" moment minutes before they filmed it for the Curb finale.

That's quite surprising if true, as I had assumed that was baked into David's idea for the final show. It's virtually the punchline to the entire arc!

Anyway, Seinfeld seems to suggest that getting to revisit the Seinfeld finale in Curb has righted a wrong for him personally. And he even goes so far as to suggest the setup/payoff of the two shows makes it one of the all-time great finales.

Whether you agree with that or not, I do think it's nice they got some closure in that respect. 

Queen Peach

this show became absolute dogshite and i'm glad it's finished

LordMorgan

Quote from: Josef K on April 17, 2024, 10:27:02 AMLoved the finale but showing a lot of clips of earlier seasons did make the over the top theatrics of everyone's performances in later seasons seem a lot more jarring. S1-4 (at least) everyone generally acts like normal people.

You can't imagine pants tent Larry's having the same reaction as he does when wheelchair Suzie enters the courtroom.



Yeah this is my problem with it now
I couldn't even stick with S12, it's too far gone now. Too cartoony
I've yet to watch the finale. But I think when I go back to it will just be to watch the last episode

chutnut

Quote from: ASFTSN on April 09, 2024, 07:55:03 AMAnyone else slightly shocked to have their 'Larry David has looked like an old man for decades' received wisdom rattled a bit by those flashbacks? A sprightly young thing.

Came here to say exactly that after finally getting around to watching this last night. Proper Mandela Effect stuff, I could have sworn he was completely grey right from the start

TheMonk

Have been listening to a lot of Jerry Seinfeld's recent podcast appearances of late and now listening to Larry David on Conan O'Brien's podcast. He really is a much more entertaining podcast guest. Laugh out loud funny but still warmer and more generous as a guest. Seinfeld often just comes across as a self satisfied curmudgeon these days.

McChesney Duntz

Funny how Larry D. was always categorized as the "darker" of the two, while it's becoming more and more obvious that it's his ex-collaborator who's gone past curmudgeondom and into full-on misanthropy.

madhair60

Quote from: McChesney Duntz on May 21, 2024, 11:58:47 PMFunny how Larry D. was always categorized as the "darker" of the two, while it's becoming more and more obvious that it's his ex-collaborator who's gone past curmudgeondom and into full-on misanthropy.

not really the case is it? had a bit of a whinge but full-on misanthropy? Nah

Ruben Remus

Quote from: madhair60 on May 22, 2024, 07:57:31 AMnot really the case is it? had a bit of a whinge but full-on misanthropy? Nah

I think it goes a bit beyond just that one recent interview about the woke left ruining comedy. To me his whole public posture for many years now has been marked by a self-satisfied air of contempt. He always insists on presenting himself as an infallible grandmaster of comedy and seems consistently incurious and resentful about any approaches or philosophies towards the form outside his own deliberately impersonal, technically precise, minutiae-driven style.

Above all his impulse always seems to be to chide and scold comedy audiences and the general public for not being on the correct wavelength like he is (maybe most neatly illustrated by that classic clip of him passive-aggressively hissing "stop laughing, it's not funny" at Letterman's crowd when they giggled at the objectively funny sight of a dishevelled Michael Richards rambling about "afro-americans").

I'm also not really sure that a man full of love for humanity would holiday in the occupied West Bank, attend an IDF fantasy camp or help pay to send in thugs to violently disrupt anti-genocide student protests, though that is perhaps a different conversation.

Memorex MP3

To be fair to Seinfeld I don't feel like he's really changed much at all and I can't imagine he'd disagree to any claims that he's a miserable git with a ridiculously high level of confidence around his notions of how comedy works.

mojo filters

Quote from: Memorex MP3 on May 22, 2024, 10:45:54 AMTo be fair to Seinfeld I don't feel like he's really changed much at all and I can't imagine he'd disagree to any claims that he's a miserable git with a ridiculously high level of confidence around his notions of how comedy works.


I completely agree, if the interviewers of yesteryear had asked him the same questions as a young man I think it would be pretty clear he's always had the slightly peculiar behaviours and a phenomenal amount of confidence in his abilities.

The impression I get from folks familiar with Jerry Seinfeld's rapid ascent is that he was more openly ambitious compared with contemporary comics also competing for valuable TV work, and that commercial approach paid off well in his case.

I did note one potential inconsistency in a recent interview he gave, suggesting Fox offered to pick up what became Seinfeld and that *he* refused as he didn't consider them on par with what he considered the "real networks" of the era. I'm assuming there's an element of truth dressed up in the tidy showbiz anecdote, but it doesn't quite track with my understanding - any Seinfeld experts,  please let me know if I'm wrong!

neveragain

Quote from: Ruben Remus on May 22, 2024, 08:48:45 AMAbove all his impulse always seems to be to chide and scold comedy audiences and the general public for not being on the correct wavelength like he is (maybe most neatly illustrated by that classic clip of him passive-aggressively hissing "stop laughing, it's not funny" at Letterman's crowd when they giggled at the objectively funny sight of a dishevelled Michael Richards rambling about "afro-americans").

But that wasn't really about comedy, he was trying to defend his friend. Rightly or wrongly.

madhair60

there was nothing passive-aggressive about it, hard to imagine a more direct statement

Ruben Remus

Nah sorry not buying that, his tone is like a pissed off schoolteacher scolding a group of children. Comes off like a big weirdo.

Is it really that controversial to say that Jerry Seinfeld is misanthropic? I always thought that was just understood to be one of his defining traits as both a comic and a public figure. Please don't mistake this for me saying he is not funny or talented, because he obviously is those things (Unfrosted was a huge load of shit though).

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